No Offense, No Win
Big waste of a terrific start by Bumgarner. But, what are you gonna do? The King at home is not an easy task. I hope we can hit this kid tonight. Doesn’t look like a pushover.
With Pence looking farther away from playing and Pagan in a deep, deep slump, the Giants are in a lot of trouble right now. You can’t win if you can’t score and here’s a look at our run totals for the last 7 games:
4-0-2-0-1-2-0.
That’s not just a normal downturn that all teams see throughout the season. We need Pence and Blanco back and Pagan needs to sit or get healthy or do something to fix whatever is wrong with him…….
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Saw we signed Scutero to a deal for the ceremonial “retire as a Giant”. Now I read we are paying him 6 million. WTF? I guess it means we are a nice organization, but maybe an extra 6 mil could have been thrown at a free agent that can actually play?
The six mil was part of the three year, 20 mil deal the team signed with him after the 2012 World Series (2013-2015). So, that money has been on the books for a while. Me? On Scoots contributions to winning the 2012 World Series alone, I am good with that deal. Without him, we most likely are not talking “three in five.”
I don’t play season long fantasy baseball anymore, but if I did, I would be grabbing this kid, Byron Buxton, an African American, who is from Baxley, Ga. (pop. 4,400). He got called up recently by the Twins. I suspect more and more blacks will choose baseball as football is perceived as dangerous to a quality long term life.
I mentioned this on the last thread, but Flavor popped a new thread up, so not certain anyone saw this. Anywho, this person below, I know I have seen him manage or coach somewhere before . . .
That’s awesome Blade. I am going to share that with some of my Houston peeps.
Different topic Wilco . . . I do it waaaaay more often with Flavor, but we usually have at least 2 to 4 of the same players on H2Hs. This morning – none. That’s a first. 🙂
Probably the firewall here…cannot see the picture.
Blade I don’t think that many kids (black or any other color) are giving up football, esp in south and midwest.
A doofus like Richard Sherman can get a Stanford ed for free and then go make an ass out of himself and rake in millions without having to ride buses throughout minor league baseball.
Same with b-ball—a Monta Ellis that can make it straight from HS to multi year big contracts is too great a temptation. And so many b-ball kids nowadays go one and done, just delaying it 12 months to get around rules.
Baseball takes generally a lot longer time toiling in small towns in out of the way places before you can hit the bigs. Sad, but I don’t see a big rebound of black superstars in baseball like ’60s…too many easier roads in NFL (where guys are leaving early now too) and NBA.
Well, time will tell. It’s their brain . . . Ya, only get one.
I don’t know. Saw a headline the other day about an Italian surgeon who wants to perform the first head transplant.
I’m not saying the dangers aren’t very real, but it’s all about easier path to the money.
I read a book years ago about Strawberry and his buddies from south central trying to make it in small towns in minors and things didn’t go too well on or especially off the field.
Flavor – your thread today is the antithesis to the provervial “We Score. We Win.” Damn…we used to win games like last night’s, REGULARLY.
Yeah, this (the inability to score runs) is getting frustrating. And the errors killed us last night, too (especially Pagan’s gaff).
Anyone else see this Terminator video, where Arnold is pranking fans in LA? Hilarious . . .
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/arnold-schwarzenegger-gave-fans-their-moneys-121841728837.html
That is fricking hilarious, Blade. Thanks for the share. Need some humor to lighten things up in Giants land…
Don’t know about you, but I would have jumped too if he came “alive.” Only thing worse – one of those Aliens coming out of someone’s stomach. Ha 🙂
I would have jumped out of my skin!
Is nothing safe from Joe Buck anymore? Now he’s befouling the U.S Open.
MacDog
What’s that moron saying now?
I try to tune him out because hearing that grating voice doing golf is annoying enough.
@GordonEdes [RSox beat writer]
Sandoval benched, admits that was him liking photos of woman on Instagram during game Said he was using bathroom at the time
Sounds like Sandoval needs the stern parent approach he got in SF to avoid acting like an overgrown child.
I am so happy he is gone. Thanks for the help in winning 3 in 5. Now go play circle-jerk with your buddies Oritz and HanRam.
How in the fuck did they find out? Must have been jerking the salami and left evidence on the bathroom door. Ha.
I heard a rumor that the Duffman will be batting third. Anyone else hear that?
Sounds like a plan. I’m down with it.
Bozo, I saw Baggs suggest it.
I’m not clear on Big Flavor’s post regarding Pence. Other than putting his arm in a splint (which is totally no bueno) has there been additional news?
The splint info was the last I saw…
Thanks dirt, I didn’t see the Baggs article (my buddy, the rumormonger, probably did), but it does make sense to me.
For shit and giggles, Sabes ought to offer the Red Sox $35 million (our original offer to Pablo) to take back fat ass, with them providing the balance of his $95 million. 🙂
Duffy batting 5th: Aoki LF, Panik 2B, Pagan CF, Posey DH, Duffy 3B, Belt 1B, Susac C, Maxwell RF, Arias SS. And Vogelsong P
Duffy leads Pablo is about every category, tied for Hr’s, but with about 40 fewer PA’s.
His OPS overall is .784 Pablo’s .733. Who would have taken that bet back in ST?
Duffer OPS has jumped every month…
April .642
May .778
June..924
Is anybody in the NL outplaying Duffy for Rookie of the Year? Even if there is a rook out there with even more elevated stats, the Duffster will certainly get ROY” consideration.
Funny idea, Steve, to offer to buy Pablo back on the cheap….. 🙂 As a former Red Sox fan from my Boston years, I pay attention a bit to what’s going on there; they did have an intriguing off-season. I told friends in Beantown Pablo would probably be ok but Ramirez in LF would turn into a joke rather quickly (apparently there are signs of that happening already). It’s still somewhat early in the season, but it sure hasn’t gone as they expected, has it? Strange strategy to pay big for those 2 larger than life free agents, the same team that jettisoned Crawford, A-Gon, etc., just a few years ago. Farrell likely will be sacrificed if the malaise continues, they’ll say he *lost the clubhouse* like Francona did, but more likely, he never had it with that bunch.
It is mid-June, 41 percent of the games are in the books, and the Sox have the second-worst record in the American League, another last-place season spiraling down the toilet before the first day of summer. Worse yet, the Sox are heading for a third last-place finish in four years.
By the by, I would have taken that bet giants54 – every day and twice on Sunday. Admittedly, I’ve never really liked Panda and I have liked Duffy from the moment he was called up on August 1st, 2014 – where in his 4th AB, he connected for his first major league hit, scoring Hunter Pence from third base. I should add the biggest reason I dislike Panda is because he doesn’t take his profession seriously. Duffy treats his profession with a no nonsense approach and attitude, where he feels he is just one fuck up away from riding a bus on some Triple A circuit.
Blade,
You mentioned earlier about Panda getting caught and yeah he was probably stroking the salami looking at these hot babes.
But theirs eyes everywhere now on the internet, instagrams, etc etc, he’s a fucking retarted thinking know one doesn’t ketch him.
What’s really a joke is that it says nothing about his commitment to His new team( Boston) or to the integrity of the game. Yeah he’s not playing tonight, big deal, standard discipline, baseball should throw a fine at him as well, but if I’m Boston, I’m looking for a sucker team at the deadline, and try and trade his fat ass!!
Agree AK . . . Cherington is an imbecile. All of his moves have failed this season. A Tigers source recently revealed there was no way they would have offered Rick Porcello a contract when he became a free agent after this year because they felt he had reached his upside. The Red Sox thought differently and extended him to the tune of $82.5 million over four years. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Same thing with that Cuban, Castillo, who was signed to a $72.5 million deal and has been a bust. He’s a 27-year-old who has struggled to stay on the field because of injuries. And scouts feel his baseball instincts aren’t good. Cherington might have gone 0-for-5 last winter, with Ramirez, Sandoval and starting pitchers Porcello, Wade Miley and Justin Masterson making a combined $64.5 million this season and producing an aggregate 0.4 WAR, according to FanGraphs.com.
Thank God we have Sabes, et. al., running the show at Willie Mays Plaza.
It’ll be hard for Duffy to win ROY because a lot of the media attention is on Pederson and Bryant, who had good starts, but have leveled off.
Yeah, there is no way that Duffy wins ROY, albeit, as Stix alluded to, he will be in the conversation. Basically, you have kids like Correa (should have seen him today against the Sherpas – he was a one man wrecking crew), Bryant, Pederson, Tomas, Syndergaard, Soler, and perhaps this kid I mentioned earlier, Buxton, might all be considered. Personally, I think Pederson or Bryant win in the NL, with the latter (Bryant) probably being the better bet.
Obviously, some of these kids play in the AL, so they wouldn’t compete in the NL.
Thing i like about Duffy is that he appears to be steady. Even keel. No big ups and downs. Some of the kids you mention will fade over the course of the season. I do not expect that with the Duffster. Nothing flashy there. No hot tool package. Not many headlining performances. Just does a workmanlike job day after day and does not make very many mistakes.
It’s a joke that Bryant got a grand slam off a position player. I’ve never liked managers letting position players pitch. Bochy never does it and I respect that.
I remember one time that it worked out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA196808251.shtml
Man down. Bryce Harper, knee injury.
Nice little crooked number there.
Notice how that conga line got going? Lately Belt can’t hit for shit. But he has not lost track of how to work that walk. Check it out. Dude starts a lot of rallies. Maybe this will bring him out of his hitting funk even before the sooner or later return of the other Too Tall Texan. Man, talk about getting into a pitcher. #9 has a knack and somehow like McGDP has a knack for what he has a knack for, Belt’s is for working a pitcher and getting him off his game.
Voila, the conga line.
Other side of the ticket was Pagan lining out to center to end the inning. Seems like some kinda dark cloud is hanging around him lately. I mean a lineout to close down a rally is one of those BBIP things that usually results (give or take a few feet) in two more runs and an impending blowout. That’s baseball. Hope El Caballo Loco pulls out of it sometime soon. White Shark’s return should help.
Loo, that boxscore is a trip. The Rock went 2 innings? wow.
In the Philly game vs. Balt, Chase Utley can be seen yelling to get Frenchy out of the game as the pitcher in his second inning where he wound up throwing 40 some odd pitches. Turns out somebody in Phils pen had taken the phone off the hook while O’s had put up 19.
I remember seeing a late game double switch where the mgr. moved the pitcher into LF for a batter so he could face the next guy up.
LaRussa against the Mets, I think.
Didn’t Jose Canseco essentially ruin his arm by pitching in a game, spelling the end of his career?
I think we’ve doubled Montgomery’s ERA.
Notice how Pablo went all *serious* and *contrite* in his apology via the media. But he used the word that politicians use when they get caught: “mistake.” “I made a mistake.” No, that sounds like stubbing your toe. The rule on their team and MLB is clear, and he deliberately flouted it, as his team plunges. Farrell is pissed. It appears to me that Pablo couldn’t find it in him to utter the three hardest words in the English language: “I was wrong.” Oh. Wait. Why didn’t he dredge up his favorite: “disrespect”? The one he used against the Giants. “I disrespected my teammates and the game of baseball.” Nope. Not said. Not to my knowledge.
I think the next time someone here types “Pa-gone!” will be when he retires…
I would get a big kick out if it if Montgomery refused to ride the team bus…
I’m not superficial in any way, really, but looks and image are important. Every time I see a photo or video of Greinke (he’s pitching tonight), I just kind of shudder. Looks like a psycho. Or maybe just an asshole. I don’t know, some people just have that creepy look….
I don’t know that roof looks like the alien ship hovering over the White House in “Independence Day”
Risky to leave Voggy in here…
Well, I guess too risky, he’s out…
Did you ever dance to “Risky Changes” by Bionic Boogie back in ’77?
Javier the All-Star!!!
Nice work Javier!
Can’t believe Dustin Ackley was the #2 overall pick back in 09..
Total swing& a miss by the Mariners..
Dr Jekyll started for the Giants tonight and did a most creditable job. Mr. Hyde was not available for comment.
Vogie is a box of chocolates…
Fine job by Vogey, especially since he was getting about two minutes’ rest between innings after the 3-run 2nd.
The Duffman delivers.
Like clockwork. Nice 3 bagger.
Another huge hit by the duffinatior!!
Imagine Duffy when he puts on some muscle.,.
Duffman is the real deal.
McDP on the 25, down 2 outfielders, is the raw deal…
Secretly Kruk still wants McDP in there over Duffy..
You may be right. If Belt were sucking balls as bad as McDP, then Kruk would be all over Belt’s ass…
Damm..we can’t use McDP this inning, their already 2 outs
Somehow i get the feeling that we might just possibly win this one. It’s nearing Midnight here in the Central time zone and lottsa work outdoors tomorrow. Mowing, weeding and spading will define the day.
Up 7-0 and Strickland can’t find the zone?
Come on man, get your S together…
It is so much easier to win when you score some runs. Good game.
Got that right Bozo!!
Willie Bloomquist?
Not being prejudiced, but when your 1st names Willie you have to be black..
Wille Shoemaker, Wee Willie Keeler, Willie Mosconi, Willie Nelson, Willy Nilly?…
Sweepless in Seattle. At least they got a split.
Goddamn, Dodgers just won on a balk.
The balk is the most stupid, unnecessary call in baseball. And, it just handed a game to the Dodgers. It is mostly the ump insinuating himself into the game where he sees something that bothers nobody else, so the call is usually just bogus. If the runner or batter doesn’t move, isn’t picked off, or otherwise isn’t bothered by whatever move the pitcher makes that’s supposedly a “balk”, then why call it? Because if none of those happen, by definition the runner or batter wasn’t deceived…
I thought in the wee hours, if the Giants lose the NL West by one game because of a balk……
Agree.