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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 26, 2016

We get to take a day off from losing or sucking, whichever you pick to take the day off from. Marlins game tonight should be sold out. I woke up this morning marveling at the fact that Arnie and Fernandez died on the same day. Two guys who personified unbridled joy and happiness in the sports they played. One of them packed as much life as you could pack into a lifetime. The other one didn’t get a chance to do that.

I hope this video loads properly. I’ve watched this several times and it just makes me feel good. Don’t spend even a second today bumming out on the Giants. It’s a waste of time. Go do something that makes you happy. Finite number of day, you know…..

 

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  1. Lurker John said, on September 26, 2016 at 7:20 am

    RIP to Arnie an Jose. Fernandez’s death, in particular, is tragic, senseless and preventable, a life snuffed out way too early. Palmer did so much good and helped so many people in his life, a real ambassador to the game of golf and just to the right way of doing things in general. I remember him from my earliest days of watching golf, the rivalry between he and Nicklaus, the sportsmanship.

    Both guys will be missed. RIP.

  2. chipower9 said, on September 26, 2016 at 7:23 am

    That video is awesome. Pure unadulterated joy. So sad to loose him at such an early age. Palmer led a full and productive life, but still sad to lose such a sports icon.

    It has been a terrible year in regards to all the great folks we have lost.

    Yeah, I need an off-day…going to enjoy it!

  3. wilcojoe said, on September 26, 2016 at 7:37 am

    Great post…Great video…Just perfect.

    • alleykat69 said, on September 26, 2016 at 7:53 am

      Ditto that WJ!!
      Chi your so right it’s been one hella of a bad year losing legends,whether it was athletes are musicians!!
      One thing that I always appreciated about Arnold Palmer was his total class.When he signed a autograph it wasn’t just a scribble and move on, he signed with perfect penmanship and you could actually read his name which meant he really cared and that was with anybody he met..

      • chipower9 said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:15 am

        Did not know that about Arnold, Kat. That is cool.

        I am a huge music person, and it is unreal the number or big time musicians we have lost this year.

  4. gianthead said, on September 26, 2016 at 7:52 am

    And to think Fernandez was just innocently out for a boat ride and had nothing to do to cause the accident is such a tragedy…

  5. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:25 am

    Heard a story regarding Arnie and Peter Jacobson when Jacobson made the tour in the 70s. He went to shake Arnie’s hand, and when they talked for a while, Arnie said, make sure that when you sign your name for a fan make sure they can read the name. It may not mean much to you but it’ll mean the world for that kid.

    Arnie was as tough a competitor as there ever was, but he was the nicest guy as well.

  6. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:26 am

    The whole thing around those Cleveland Indians pitches that died boating in a lake was similar. Steve Olin? Can’t remember the others. You have to wonder what was going on on the boat.

    • Lurker John said, on September 26, 2016 at 1:04 pm

      Ojeda, Crews and Olin. Smashed into a wooden dock at high speed. Olin and Crews died, Ojeda survived. Crews was driving the boat and was intoxicated. Ojeda is still alive.

  7. willedav said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:38 am

    50 yrs from when Zappa first released Freak Out. Dweezil is touring again (with different name of band due to all the hassle with siblings over $$$) and will try and recreate some things from that era, including “It Can’t Happen Here”.
    It’s very important that you believe me blah blah blah. Buddies of mine from work ’70 loved the guy, had all his records and I hadn’t heard anything like that before. Soon I was hooked in.

    Also 25 yrs since Nirvana. Come as You Are still sounds great.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:15 am

      Saw Zappa in ’88 at the Greek. Great stuff. Tried to see him in like 79, but couldn’t get tickets for a show in SJ I think. Would have loved to see him when Adrian Belew was in his band.

    • chipower9 said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:10 am

      I saw Zappa in Nov. ’77 and Sept. ’81 at the Memorial Auditorium in Sacramento. GREAT SHOWS! Loved Zappa and have a ton of his stuff in my collection.

      Frank for President!

  8. willedav said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:43 am

    Hope Nunez is OK, he’s been one of few sparks of interest in the long slow slide.
    Any chance he gets run at on OF spot next year or is he the full time 3b of future?

    • Flavor said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:27 am

      yeah. Nunie was the spark plug for the last couple of weeks. I can’t see how we do anything if he’s not playing.

  9. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:27 am

    He’s the 3rd baseman unless we somehow get the Duffster back. Adrainza is still a mystery that stays on the team like a foul odor that doesn’t go away.

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:51 am

      The play he made on the foul pop the other night was phenomenal.
      Pure hustle and having your head in the game…

  10. alleykat69 said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:44 am

    It was ST 93 Chuck, they had the day off took a speed boat out and at dusk hit a pier at 65 mph!! They were decapited.. Steve Olin& Tim Crews, Bobby Ojeida somehow survived..
    WTF were they thinking? Going that fast and not knowing your surroundings??

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:50 am

      I don’t know how Ojeda lives with that memory.
      For his sake I hope he was KO’ed and doesn’t remember it…

  11. snarkk said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:54 am

    I keep hearing this squad looks tired? And the other teams beating them like a drum haven’t played the season? If they’re tired then Bochy should have played the young guys more, and the FO should have fielded a better bench sooner. Since they’ve lost since the AS break, we’re they tired then already? I’m not buying it. The starters have done well pretty much the last month? They haven’t seed tired in general…

  12. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:11 am

    Disinterested is more like it. They look like they are playing out the string. You have to wonder how much is based on the odd decisions that Bochy has made is playing into the fact the players are not emotionally invested.

    WillieD, what’s crazy is looking back on Nevermind, it was raw-sounding at the time, but you listen to it now and it does sound squeaky clean. Compared to Bleach, it is almost 2 different bands. In Utero goes back to a much more raw sound.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:16 am

      Letting Tomlinson languish in AAA while Panik and 000 floundered is probably the biggest problem. Trotting out Casilla time after time as well. Not moving Nooner to the leadoff spot, the Bataan death march to the mound 45 times a game, etc. all leads to the team just thinking WTF? Has Boch gone mad? This of course is purely speculation, but this team is not invested in the season by all appearances.

  13. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:13 am

    Damn. This sounds just like the Cleveland boat accident. According to USA Today:

    The boat was apparently traveling at full speed, which can be between 55 and 65 mph, when it hit the jetty, capsized, and landed upside down on the rocks.

    • snarkk said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:25 am

      Wondering what kind of warning lights were out on that jetty. Tox screens will tell whether there was driver impairment, assuming they can determine who was driving. Nothing good generally happens that time of night…

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 12:03 pm

        And in that type of collision any number of things could kill a person.
        There’s an urban legend that what killed the lead-singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd in the airplane crash was a VCR dislodging and striking him in the head.
        The Drive-By Truckers wrote and recorded an entire double album about the story of that band, and the tragic plane crash, called “Southern Rock Opera.” A great album if you ever get a chance to listen to it.

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 12:06 pm

        Here’s one of the songs on the album, called “Ronnie and Neil,” about Neil Young recording “Southern Man,” and Lynyrd Skynyrd responding with lyrics about Neil in “Sweet Home Alabama.” Turns out that there never really was a “feud” between them. They both respected each other’s work.

  14. chipower9 said, on September 26, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    Thoughts for an off day…

    There is a ton of speculation about what Bochy should or should not have done, trade decisions, etc. At this point, that shit is all water under the proverbial bridge.

    I have said it before and will say it again. This team had the best fucking record first half. Sure, there have been injuries and some roster changes, but no reason they cannot play a hell of a lot better than of late. Stop all the fucking finger-pointing and belly-aching and play some fucking WINNING BASEBALL!

    Next year – bullpen must be re-tooled, and go sign a LEGIT POWER-HITTING OFer (like a Cespedes, etc.). I don’t care if they overpay (easy to spend kazillionaires’ money for them, eh).

    Half a game up in the WC. Time to put up or shut up.

  15. Lurker John said, on September 26, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    A guy I work with went to the Masters years ago, and was there for the ceremonial tee-off, Palmer, Gary Player and Jack Nicklaus. During a lull he was just standing around watching, when Arnold Palmer approached him and chatted him up for a few minutes, thanking for being there, etc. He said he was the nicest guy you could ever hope to meet.

    As he was telling me the story, he still seemed amazed that it was the great Palmer that approached him, not the other way around. He’ll be missed.

  16. Lurker John said, on September 26, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    Inexperienced boaters can get lulled into a sense of complacency; “We’re on the ocean, it’s wide open, nothing to worry about.” Obviously that’s not the case. Combine that with excessive speed, darkness and possible intoxication and you have a disaster waiting to happen. 55-65 mph on the water is crazy fast. I’ve been in a small boat with a guy who turned out to be smashed and it was all we could do to get him to take the boat in. He was being reckless as hell, hammering into rollers at 35-40 mph. My back was screwed up for a week after. Needless to say, it was not a comfortable situation and that was in broad daylight.

    • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 2:35 pm

      Shit, hitting a jetty means they were either close to the harbor or close to shore. Most jetties aren’t lit up because they are in a 5 MPH zone.

  17. pawliekokonuts said, on September 26, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    I don’t know anything about boating, but one local article said the boat may’ve had blue interior lights on. Some captain said they might look pretty but they are too distracting to the driver. Anyway, as you say, that gif shows UNBRIDLED joy. Everyone seemed to love this kid. His joy reminds me of why I took to Mays. He had FUN playing.

  18. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    Yeah, in one of Lynyrd Skynyrd’s last shows (with Ronnie), Ronnie is wearing a Neill Young t-shirt.

  19. gianthead said, on September 26, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    I have an idea…besides a major overhaul, I say they bring in Barry to be our hitting coach…

    • Lurker John said, on September 26, 2016 at 6:36 pm

      I’m in.

  20. zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    The last song on the Truckers’ “Southern Rock Opera” is called “Angels and Fuselage.” It’s an eerie, haunting song about Skynyrd’s plane going down. One of the horrors of a plane going down is the amount of time it can take to go down, and there’s usually no survivors. Not everyone died on that plane, but several did, as the pilot was having to set down the plane in a wooded area. No big river available, like Sully. The listener knows this part of the story has been coming.
    The lyrics:
    “Looking out the window, the trees are getting closer it seems.
    Thinking bout you Darling.
    Adding up the cost of these dreams.
    Strapped to this projectile, just a blink ago I was back in school.
    Smoking by the gym door, practicing my rock-star attitude
    And I’m scared shitless of what’s coming next.
    I’m scared shitless, these angels I see in the trees are waiting for me.
    The engines have stopped now. We all know we are going down. Last call for alcohol.
    Sure wish I could have another round.
    And I’m scared shitless of what’s coming next.
    Scared shitless, these angels I see in the trees are waiting for me.
    Waiting for me.
    Friends in the swamp.
    Friends on the ground, in the trees.
    Angels and fuselage.”

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 3:19 pm

  21. unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Shit im already having a bad day!

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 4:03 pm

      We have to hope the presidential debate doesn’t make the day any worse. 🙂

  22. Macdog said, on September 26, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    Wow, Dee Gordon hit a leadoff homer and was in tears rounding the bases.

    • wilcojoe said, on September 26, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      Bonds was one of the first to greet him in the dugout with a big bear hug. If that highlight doesn’t make you get goose bumps you’re not human.

  23. zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    The Marlins are trying to win one for their fallen teammate. It’s an amazing performance.

  24. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    Giants accomplish the most on off days…

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:02 pm

      Yeah, the Mets lost, and the Cards are getting pounded by the Reds.

  25. djloo27 said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    Wild Card Teams W L PCT

    New York 83 74 .529
    San Francisco 82 74 .526
    St. Louis 81 75 .519

    • Macdog said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:54 pm

      Who wants it less?

  26. willedav said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    Loo is right, they all suck. And as is Bochy can out manage Collins and Matheny.
    Interesting to see if LA goes scrubini LUs/rests SPs; it was Culberson of all players who hit the GWHR that clinched division for them. Of course the Padres AAA guys are the ones that killed SF.

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:36 pm

      Their AAA players look actually talented; that’s unfair. 🙂

  27. snarkk said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    This boating accident stuff reminds me a little of a boating thing years ago in Australia. I was fishing with some acquaintances (4 of us total) in maybe a 22 foot skiff outboard in the ship channel in a place a long ways from nowhere called Weipa, on the NW tip of Australia on the Gulf of Carpenteria. We left late at night, after a shift at the pub to go night fishing for grouper. After fishing a while, the wind started to whip up, and pretty quickly the swells were about 4 feet, maybe up to 6. My buddy and I finally persuaded the “captain” it might be a good idea to head in. In this ship channel, about every 1/2 mile there was a pylon with a light on top signaling the edge of the channel, so you had to stay left of the pylons heading in, if you were a larger ship. After a bit, the waves started really getting nasty and we started taking in a bit of water over the transom. Not good. The “captain” yelled out — hey, if we capsize, make like JC over to the nearest pylon !! I tried to process that, couldn’t. I yelled what? Walk on water to the nearest pylon!, yelled the captain over the bouncing boat and waves. I shouted, WHY? Because the shrimpers come in and out of this channel all the time, so it’s full of Tiger Sharks! Oh, thanks mate….

    • Flavor said, on September 26, 2016 at 8:58 pm

      ha! Wow. I am not a fisherman and throw up if I even look at an ocean.

    • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:04 pm

      Maryann & Ginger must’ve been freaking out…

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:05 pm

      Yeah, getting eaten alive by an animal would be a horrible way to go. The Romans were entertained by stuff like that. Very strange.

      • djloo27 said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:12 pm

        So were moviegoers in 1975…

      • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:32 pm

        At least we weren’t rooting for the shark. 🙂

      • unca_chuck said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:26 pm

        I was

  28. Flavor said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    i still can’t believe Dee Gordon hit his first home run of the year today in that at bat. One of the craziest, most emotional things I’ve ever seen in sports. Right up there with Bo Kimbel left handed free throw.

    • zumiee said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:09 pm

      That victory by the Marlins today was an incredible accomplishment.

      • Macdog said, on September 26, 2016 at 9:22 pm

        I just looked at the box score, I didn’t know they used nine pitchers.

  29. snarkk said, on September 26, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    http://m.mlb.com/video/v1189155783/nymmia-marlins-honor-fernandez-with-a-ceremony
    Take a look at this. One of the damndest things I’ve ever seen in baseball. Ever. The whole 11 minutes or so is worth watching. Seriously. I got tears watching this.
    The Marlins did this amazingly well. Barry is in here somewhere, and he’s breaking up.
    Gordon hit the leadoff jack after this. Amazing he did that, and that they won the game.
    If you can’t see the whole thing, then click on at the 2:00 mark and after the 6:50 to about 10:00. At 2:00, play, then wait and listen. Whoever thought of that deserves something special. What a moment. Only baseball, my and your favorite game, could provide such a perfect moment mixing melancholy with the spirit of this great game…

    • wilcojoe said, on September 27, 2016 at 9:08 am

      Thanks for posting. Great post!

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on September 27, 2016 at 10:15 am

      The rendition of Take Me Out To The Ball Game, shots of his fellow Cuban Cespedes, the sorrow of his teammates, even the PA announcers voice was quivering….an intensely emotional tribute. Thanks for the link, snarkk.

  30. Flavor said, on September 27, 2016 at 8:08 am

    under the weather today, will get up a thread after lunch

  31. unca_chuck said, on September 27, 2016 at 8:19 am

    Hey, you could always call up the unstable boys. Or whatever the hell we were called . . .

  32. snarkk said, on September 27, 2016 at 9:00 am

    From Baggarly’s column, a good one about Bochy, here’s a hint of more news probably to come after the season about this team. We’ve guessed that there is some not so good stuff going on in the Giants clubhouse.

    “No losing clubhouse is a happy clubhouse. Even for a manager of Bochy’s renown and accomplishments, steep stumbles lead to grumbles. It is a loosely guarded secret that his matchup-heavy management of the bullpen has caused disenchantment if not confrontational fury among most of his relievers, even going back to the first half. “In Bochy We Trust” is not a campaign button that everyone in the Giants clubhouse is eager to wear these days.”

    This team has lost so many one run games, think of all the chances Bochy has refused to try to manufacture runs with small ball by doing bunts, hit and run, anything to move runners along. He’s out one game in Miami with his heart issue, and Wotus did the small ball, and they won that game.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/not-a-faint-heart-bruce-bochy-committed-to-staying-on-as-giants-manager/

    • zumiee said, on September 27, 2016 at 9:20 am

      Interesting article; thanks.

  33. zumiee said, on September 27, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Loo’s point is well-taken: the Giants did better in the standings by not playing last night.

    • zumiee said, on September 27, 2016 at 9:19 am

      In chess, it’s called “zugswang,” a cool German word that means, basically, you have no good moves on the chessboard, and you’d rather just skip your turn and allow the opponent to have two moves in a row.

      • djloo27 said, on September 27, 2016 at 9:29 am

        Can I use it in bed?

      • Flavor said, on September 27, 2016 at 10:37 am

        solid gold, Loo. I have nothing to say today so if anyone DOES have anything to say, about chess moves or otherwise, feel free to pop a thread up if you are still a card carrying unstable boy member. If not, I’ll think of something to kick around by 3 o’clock or so……

      • alleykat69 said, on September 27, 2016 at 10:38 am

        Gold Loo! Checkmate

  34. willedav said, on September 27, 2016 at 11:02 am

    Interesting column from Baggs, but how much dissension exists in clubhouse over pen moves vs. how much is in Baggs imagination is open to question.
    Bochy has been R/L guy for a long time, like most NL mgrs. Decline of Lopez, lack of reliable replacement (no it’s not Osich yet) until Smith and Okert arrived hasn’t helped. Further decline of Casilla and much inconsistency from RHPs, Strick Gearrin Kontos and (lately) Law plus months without Romo didn’t help.

    My point is, guys on the mound have the ball in their hands yet can’t seem to get hitters out when they need to.
    Bochy has given them the opportunity to help the team win and instead they’ve helped them to lose.
    He’s certainly not blameless but imo mgmt. seriously overvalued strength of the players they had going in.

  35. unca_chuck said, on September 27, 2016 at 11:15 am

    A new thread is up . . .


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