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Tired of Getting Cain’d

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on February 23, 2017

If I did a poll right now about who you’d rather have as the #5, Cain or Blach, I bet we’d vote 90% for Blach, right?

Why is that? Do we just not have the same intolerance for failure with Blach as we’ve got for Cain? It’s funny how failure (Cain) can grind on the fans. Blach has literally pitched one great game for us. And now we’re all behind him. Ctm.

TFLR should be fine. MRI should no damage, just inflammation. Normal spring aches and pains. I hope.

 

 

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  1. willedav said, on February 23, 2017 at 7:38 am

    Cain and Peavy made 38 starts btw them last year, and were worse in almost every stat except Ks than Suarez.
    Factor in combined salary of $36 mil to wind up with collective WAR in minus column.
    Giants still had 4th best ERA in NL and were a playoff team—so this year hopefully should be much better in terms of rotation, and of course value.

    Dodgers and most other teams jonesing for SPs…you have to let this play out.

    • chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:02 am

      “you have to let this play out.” Agree…one of the primary purposes of ST…

  2. Bozo said, on February 23, 2017 at 8:22 am

    Cain had a few flashes last year but he also some huge bombs (we tend to remember the bombs which there were more of). Can he go 6 innings a game for a season any more? I don’t know, but with his contributions to SF all these years, I think he deserves the shot.

    Blach and Suarez are bottom of the rotation kind of pitchers and are great to have around but I don’t think either is a long term solution, Beede on the other hand might be if Cain isn’t able to go the whole season.

  3. sfsarge said, on February 23, 2017 at 8:26 am

    For me it’s simple, Beach appears to be on the way up and Cain is on the decline. I have more tolerance for a young guy figuring it out and taking some bumps and bruises along the way, than for an old guy who looks like he’s done. It sucks to see him just keep trotting out there and getting rocked.

  4. chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:08 am

    I just cannot say, one way or another in regards to Cain or Blach for the fifth spot, and agree with WillieD’s spin (you have to let this play out). I am not leaning one way or another. Do a solid eval during ST and figure out who is the best solution. My concern there is in Bochy’s affinity with veteran players. Who takes that fifth spot should be based solely on who has the best spring and is perceived to be best for the team as the fifth SP.

    On the IBB bullshit rule change… it is exactly that…BULLSHIT.

    GH made a comment that an automated strike zone would make much more of a difference, and that is what I said yesterday, too:

    One thing that I believe would definitely move the game along is for all umps to call the strike zone consistently. Call the damned strike zone as it is described in the rule book! If they did this, there would be less walks. And if the umps cannot get their pea-brains wrapped around this, then fucking have a robot call strikes/balls.

    Manfred is NOT impressing me to date.

    And I REALLY dislike this bullshit that if MLB puts something out there (intent for a rule change) a year in advance, then MLB can institute that rule without any input from the players (union). This is REAL BULLSHIT. SMH…

  5. Lurker John said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:24 am

    “TFLR.” lol

  6. Lurker John said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:25 am

    I guess it depends on how well each of these guys does in ST. If Cain appears to be serviceable, you know he’s going to get the nod, with Blach waiting in the wings.

    • chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 10:33 am

      Agree…tough to pick one over the other at this point.

  7. alleykat69 said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:45 am

    They have 22.5 million reasons to stick with Cain ! Sucks cause he will crater but they will stay with him..As Blach&Beede keep getting older in AAA..

    • chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 10:37 am

      Doom da doom doom…

      Just fucking with ya, Kat. It takes doomers and pollyannas to make the baseball world go ’round. 😉

  8. chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 10:36 am

    Giddy up…Giants baseball will be on the air tomorrow! WHOOP!

    Some news on ST camp so far…

    http://m.giants.mlb.com/news/article/216733576/bumgarner-confirmed-to-start-cactus-opener/

  9. chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 10:41 am

    Looking forward to Opening Day, and trying to figure out who will be on the hill for Los Gigantes. Whoever slots in the 3rd spot in the rotation will be that guy. So, I am guessing at this point Matty Moore or Shark. Could be Cueto if he is further delayed in getting to camp, and they decide to start him deeper in the rotation, but I doubt that will happen.

    I know Sarge is going to OD…any other Flappers plan on being there? Looking forward to seeing you again, Sarge, and in tipping a cold one (or two).

  10. Flavor said, on February 23, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Bochy said TFLR isn’t likely to pitch in a game till March 20th. So this fucking guy…

    • willedav said, on February 23, 2017 at 11:36 am

      …is going to stress you out for another 8 months?
      Let’s hope not and he is imp part of rebuilt pen.

  11. zumiee said, on February 23, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    Bochy talks about the Giants’ awful baserunning last year:
    http://www.knbr.com/2017/02/23/bochy-on-giants-baserunning-last-year-we-were-awful/

    • Flavor said, on February 23, 2017 at 12:26 pm

      yeah, I heard him say that live this morning, I was surprised he was so candid.

    • gianthead said, on February 23, 2017 at 12:35 pm

      Ahhh, isn’t it Bochy’s job to have fixed those things last year? He kept trotting Spam out there game after game to lead off and then we learn that we was not 100% all year. What a shocker there Bruce…

  12. willedav said, on February 23, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    Nevin is an interesting guy. I remember reading about him in Feinstein book about a season in the Int’l League AAA east coast and south. He was a manager then, and could be again in the future…like here.

    It was also interesting to see in Chron the other day the good things said about Hundley by his former mgr. Bud Black. It started off with funny story from Hundley about having to catch G Maddux in a game as a rook.
    Maddux did all the talking in pregame meet as they went over the hitters, and when Hundley asked him about signs, Maddux said he only threw 85, so he’d catch them. Which he ultimately did, despite being worried sick he’d screw up with HOF on the hill and get bounced back to minors on next bus.

    The Pads connection with SF continues.

  13. Flavor said, on February 23, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    I’d like Hundley to come clean about how the Rockies handle the baseballs for the opposing teams compared to the Rox

  14. djloo27 said, on February 23, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    Some writer was gushing about the Rockies on NY Radio yesterday…

    • chipower9 said, on February 23, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      There seems to be no shortage of folks every year who gush about the Rox. And each year results in the same ‘ol same ‘ol…

  15. snarkk said, on February 23, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    Cain gets paid his massive coin regardless of whether he can or can’t go past the 5th inning without a crater job. Blach is young, but he’s toiled enough in the minors, it’s time he throws in MLB, not Sac. Cain doesn’t deserve anything else from the Giants. He’s gotten paid outrageous bucks — $60+ million — for doing jack for 3 seasons. His contract has been Zito-esque. Either he performs early, or thanks, sayonara and get another arm in there. It IS that simple, if we are to believe the “baseball is a meritocracy” BS…

  16. snarkk said, on February 23, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    Giants have paid off the ATT construction loan…
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/article/Giants-pay-off-AT-T-Park-prepare-for-another-10952512.php

  17. zumiee said, on February 23, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    MLB Network is doing a big focus on a different team each day, as a countdown to the season. “30 Teams in 30 Days.” The Giants are the focus tomorrow. And next Wednesday, the MLB Network will air a Giants/Padres game.

  18. zumiee said, on February 23, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    The MLB Network’s first Spring Training game is tomorrow, and it’s a Yankee game. Who could have predicted it? It’s a shock, I say.

    • zumiee said, on February 23, 2017 at 3:11 pm

      Soon followed by a Red Sox game, a Mets game, and a Cubs game.
      Mind = blown. Shocking stuff.

  19. zumiee said, on February 23, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Regarding the Rockies, once again they have a batting lineup that looks awesome; but their poor pitchers get ground into hamburger every year.

  20. unca_chuck said, on February 23, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    Wow. Dubs getting run out of the building.

  21. unca_chuck said, on February 23, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    Lazy passing and poor shooting.

  22. Macdog said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    That was predictable: Warriors come back to take the lead and the quarter isn’t half over.

  23. zumiee said, on February 23, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    Cauley-Stein scores 29 and the Kings defeat the Nuggets!

    • Macdog said, on February 23, 2017 at 10:07 pm

      While Cousins’ new team got smoked by the Rockets.

  24. unca_chuck said, on February 23, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    Then they drop 50 on the Clips in the 3rd. Wow.


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