Creamed by The Worst of The Crop

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 22, 2017

San Diego now 6 full games ahead of us–starting to feel like this just might not be our year to catch them. It was nice to see one of our random bench dudes step up and crack one out but come on, the Padres banged out 20 hits yesterday. They absolutely deserved to win.

Matty Moore (is Less) today. Brandon Grace just fired a 62 and conditions are perfect at Royal Birkdale. Golf will be far more compelling today than what’s going to happen later in the afternoon in San Francisco.

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willedav said, on July 22, 2017 at 7:52 am

day game after 5 hour long night game and bay area will be warm this afternoon, even in SF.
Pads went 20 for 50 last night an even .400 plus 6 walks for an OB of .464.
The worst hitting team in the entire league for BA and runs scored (yes worse than SF!) walks into ATT and slaps around Giants pitching, again, for 3 doubles 3 triples and 2 HRs.

Shuffle deck chairs on the field/LU all you want, if Giants don’t get better pitching they’re doomed to be chasing the freaking Pads for a while.
willedav said, on July 22, 2017 at 7:57 am

couple plays that were just so emblematic of entire season—Pence leaping and trying desperately to corral long drive that was in and out of glove and batted around by his bare hand before rolling to the wall.

Belt’s drive in the 9th, nice easy swing that drives ball all the way to 399 sign in dead CF that Pads alphabet guy (who entered mid game on double switch and still had 4 hits) snags.
Flavor said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:09 am

there is nothing this team does well except defense. We are slow. We are weak. Our pitching is terrible. No quick fixes for this train wreck.
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:28 am

Is there any chance of Cueto being dealt by the deadline?
- Flavor said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:35 am
  
  With him on the DL? I’d say near zero. He has to prove he’s over his blisters. Maybe by Aug 31st since you know he’ll clear waivers. That’s prolly our only shot
- Flavor said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:35 am
  
  With him on the DL? I’d say near zero. He has to prove he’s over his blisters. Maybe by Aug 31st since you know he’ll clear waivers. That’s prolly our only shot
dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 22, 2017 at 9:53 am

Marty posting pics with Sandoval on The Twitter.
alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 10:27 am

Brilliant round by Grace setting the lowest Rd at a British Open, but it still puts him 5 back of Speith who’s at 9 under. Can’t see him blowing this tournament like he did at the Masters..
Speaking of Masters,
Q ..What does Greg Norman & I Dream of Genie(Barbara Eden) have in common?
A…They both blew their Masters..
Macdog said, on July 22, 2017 at 10:39 am

The Flap again is ahead of the game. It was mentioned here a couple days ago that Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin'” wasn’t played at a game. Now I read in Pav’s story that the song has been phased out, though no one can pinpoint when it happened.
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 11:53 am

Actor John Heard has passed away at 71.
Probably best known as the dad in Home Alone…
- Flavor said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:32 pm
  
  in a palo alto hotel no less
alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 11:54 am

I’m so sick of that song anyway!
Sure the fans “Stopped Believin” as well..
Macdog said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:07 pm

Sandoval signed, will play in San Jose tonight, then Sac on Tuesday. Also: Calixte & Suarez up, Okert & Donger down.
snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:13 pm

Aw, the Donger, we hardly knew Ye ….
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:28 pm

See ya…
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:33 pm

Yes, this is real:

1. Gorkys Hernandez (R) CF
2. Eduardo Nunez (R) 3B
3. Joe Panik (L) 2B
4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
5. Conor Gillaspie (L) SS
6. Hunter Pence (R) RF
7. Nick Hundley (R) C
8. Orlando Calixte (R) LF
9. Matt Moore (L) P
xoot said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:37 pm

Live beat writers’ interview with Sandoval just now. One real baseball note: he says he’s still a switch hitter, claims the shoulder injury stopped him on the right side for a while but now he’s over that. My initial take: this is not the same guy who woke up at 3 am on the beach in Aptos wondering why a Santa Cruz County Sheriff was aiming a blazing flashlight in his eyes
zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:37 pm

“I’m so sick of that song anyway!
Sure the fans “Stopped Believin” as well..”

lulz!
James said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm

Heard should have been known for this:
- xoot said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:02 pm
  
  that’s a great movie. The novel’s even better. Good call, though
  - xoot said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:03 pm
    
    Thornburgh’s novel is titled Cutter and Bone
  - James said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:42 pm
    
    Yep, not sure what kind of marketing analysis prompted the title change. Did no good in any case.
snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 12:43 pm

I was at the 1983 British Open at Royal Birkdale. Was there for the weekend rounds. I trained over for the weekend with a buddy from Oxford, where I was jacking around for the summer on some summer international law courses. The place was awesome. Piddly ass town of Southport, just N of Liverpool. We stayed in the upstairs apartment of some lady, who was very nice, and served us a massive, heart stopping English breakfast each morning. The course was a little weird, was very dry that year, lots of big hills, rolling fairways, with scrub bushes and goarse and what we call “barranca” here in CA golf courses. Not what you think of a usual links course, I’d been to St. Andrews, it’s flat as a pancake. Unusually warm weekend, as I remember. Watson won, turned out to be his last Major. We walked behind in the crowd scrum as he strolled up 18 on Sunday. Very cool. The British do it up in these British Opens. I’ve been to an Open at Pebble and over at Olympic, and I would go to a British Open over the US, hands down. It’s a friggin big ass party. Off the course there are tents for everything, and you won’t go thirsty, and regular people attending, not many swells. And, the courses are not some high toned private course in the middle of nothing, they’re usually near a regular town. This little Southport was crawling with people. We got plastered off our asses Fri and Sat nights at a rockin’ pub right near the railroad track through town. I vaguely remember talking briefly with supposedly a couple of English or Scottish golfers in that pub, themselves getting ripped. Don’t know if it was the Fri or Sat night, I assume it was after they missed the cut, but who knows. Somebody right after told us one of the dudes was Sandy Lyle, but hey, we we were all blown away by then — I know he wasn’t Watson. Could have been Lyle, he was known to pound a pint or four back then. Good times…
- alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:03 pm
  
  Great Stuff Snarkk!
  Those Brits&Irish folks “party like theirs no tomorrow ” Just want to get over there are Ireland and hit up the hundreds of taverns and hoist many of pints 🍻 with these cool chaps!!
  🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺👍
  - snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:20 pm
    
    I’ve not yet been to Ireland, but want to go.
    Kat, any small village in England, Scotland or Wales, you’ll usually have a choice of a coupla pubs. Larger towns the pubs are everywhere. It was my experience over there in several visits that they were very friendly to Yanks. Hopefully still so. You’ll be welcome to get your Skink on, they might join you…
- Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:19 am
  
  that is awesome. I’m just catching up with comments from yesterday now
zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:23 pm

Well, Pablo said the right things, and signed some autographs. He had a good day today.
Now, the minor detail of whether he can play major league ball.
- snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:54 pm
  
  Beggarly says there are rumors Pablo sold the last out ball from the 2014 WSeries that he caught in KC. When asked, Pablo would not discuss it. If he did, another checkmark in the prick column…
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 1:35 pm

The constant promotions for these endless moronic giveaways are driving me fuckin’ nuts…
- xoot said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:10 pm
  
  Today Kuiper keeps talking about the Charlie Brown “penis bobblehead” wtf? Don’t his sound people advise him?
  - djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm
    
    I’m glad someone else heard that.
    I couldn’t believe my ears!
unca_chuck said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:00 pm

Moore was hell bent in giving up that home run. Fuck.the guy wes pulling everything
zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:02 pm

2-2 count on Myers, and Hundley calls for a pitch high and inside. The pitch location that Myers keeps hammering the Giants on.
- snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm
  
  This goes to my point last weekend when Samardzxxxx threw an 0-2 gopher ball. Hundley put the target belt high on the outside half. Samardzxxx would have hit the target, if the pitch hadn’t been clobbered over the fence. It’s not always on the pitcher alone. Hundley needn’t return next season…
zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:28 pm

A couple of new Giants-related books reviewed in the Chronicle today. “If These Walls Could Talk,” by Chris Haft, a Giants beat writer, and a book called “Home Team.”
Also a new book about Lefty O’Doul.
alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:31 pm

Is it me are can any of these Caribbean/DR/ player run the fucking bases right???
- zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:34 pm
  
  The MLB Network pundits believe it’s across the board for all players. The base running is the worst ever, with a few players being the exception
unca_chuck said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:32 pm

Neviin sent hm
- alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 2:55 pm
  
  Yeah well he’s a dumbshit too.He was in scoring position why kill the inning?
snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:04 pm

I could be wrong, but the Giants baserunning across the board this season seems to be total crap. Pickoffs, constantly unable to size up where hits are so they can’t score from second on singles, not paying attention to the 3rd base coach, over sliding bases, etc. IMO Will Clark was probably the Giants smartest best base runner after Mays. I don’t remember Will ever making a baserunning blunder, and he had a great eye gauging when to run/not run on line drives and pops…
dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm

Don’t the Giants have an option on Moore at the end of the year? Think they exercise it?
- snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:50 pm
  
  2018 = $9M club option ($1M buyout).
  Yes…
snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:52 pm

Giants pitcher again flubs a defensive play, it would have ended the inning…
snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 3:55 pm

As of next year when he gets bought out, Cain will have earned about $145 million from the Giants…
- djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:29 pm
  
  Hope he has a king size mattress…
snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:03 pm

Come on Buster, hit one out! …
chipower9 said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm

Too many missed opportunities…in other words, same shit, different day. And I think absolutely they pick-up Moore’s option next year. They also have one for 10 mil in 2019 with a .75 mil buyout.
zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:37 pm

Each reliever has to walk a batter or hit a batter.
- alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:41 pm
  
  “It’s the Giants Way” this horrible year!
OldSealsFan (@OldSealsFan) said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:43 pm

Didn’t Kruk say regarding Pablo that, “Everyone has to get traded to appreciate his orig. team”? Something like that. Shit! He walked, didn’t he? Seems like the Giants wanted to put fat clause in his contract and he said Fuck it and signed with the Red Sox. Or, am I dreaming? Like someone hits a HR now in bottom of 11th.
- djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:46 pm
  
  Seems like Panik and Pence haven’t homered in months – I really don’t know…
- xoot said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:07 pm
  
  yes, it was apparent that the Giants’ offer after 2014 included some confidential tough-love terms. He should’ve taken that deal. The Giants were smart to stick to their guns
OldSealsFan (@OldSealsFan) said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:46 pm

I have to admit that I watched a movie after it went 4-4. Two hours later still 4-4. I feel like a traitor and smart both. This team is so bad. So far two popups in the bottom of 11th.
What a waste of $300 clams.
willedav said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:48 pm

might just be coincidence, but Nunez has made a bunch of nice plays at 3b lately.
wouldn’t be the worst thing he stays, esp as RH bat when the LH IFs need a day off.
Craw has 4 more years on the contract too, at $15 mil plus.
- djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 4:53 pm
  
  I assume Panda will get a pretty good audition.
  Nunie’s a goner this week, but could be re-signed I suppose…
chipower9 said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm

Fuck yeah!
- xoot said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm
  
  no more deja vu all over again! (for now)
  - chipower9 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:23 pm
    
    For at least a day. 😉
willedav said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:04 pm

hundley cracked that one nice shot. Lot of shutout innings vs. Pads today unlike last night.
Macdog said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:05 pm

Beat S.D.!
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:05 pm

Looked like Span had a near-death experience in the absurd post-game celebration…
- snarkk said, on July 22, 2017 at 6:43 pm
  
  100 games out and they’re celebrating like a W Series victory. I wider if anyone knows when this celebration stuff started. This craziness is not showing up the other team. No. But if you linger in the box for a second too long admiring your HR, next AB you get a ball thrown at your head. Ridiculous…
djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm

Wheeler is awful for the Mets.
You just never know with prospects, I guess…
OldSealsFan (@OldSealsFan) said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm

Will wonders never cease!
gianthead said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:27 pm

a friend tried to tease me that the Giants signed Pablo Sandoval…what a kidder!!!
blade3colorado said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:38 pm

This one over before I woke up (must be Saturday day game . . . Sunday morning here). Yesterday’s marathon lasted until almost dinner.

Loo, without adding details, you jogged my memory when you mentioned the bobble head doll . . . As in, “So you’re 80?”

I was laughing my ass off, and than it was deleted.
- djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:53 pm
  
  I deleted it myself, Blade. When I re-read it, I thought it sounded mean…
  - blade3colorado said, on July 22, 2017 at 6:10 pm
    
    Yeah, I thought you did. Sheesh, in 20-25 years, we’ll all be in that spot, reminiscing about the 3 World Series, as if it’s ancient history.
    
    “Blade, you remember that time Pablo hit 3 bombs in the Detroit Series?”
    
    “No Loo. I can’t remember what day it is, much less what happened 20 years ago.”
  - chipower9 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:26 pm
    
    LMAO…I hope we are still having those conversations 20 -25 years from now.
- gianthead said, on July 22, 2017 at 5:54 pm
  
  Baby Blade pic??? congrats dude….a year ago we were in Boston!!!
  - blade3colorado said, on July 22, 2017 at 6:01 pm
    
    Thanks Peter! Yeah, I posted “memory” photos of you, your son, Jackson, Chi and I during the Boston leg of the trip on Facebook yesterday.
  - gianthead said, on July 22, 2017 at 6:05 pm
    
    I saw the Chi pic from Yankme stadium…but now saw the Boston ones…
gianthead said, on July 22, 2017 at 6:02 pm

sitting here watching this Hacksaw Ridge movie…if they are in boot camp, why do none of them have buzz haircuts but all perfectly coiffed???

And hard to take Vince Vaughn seriously. Ready for him to start cracking wise guy lines…
zumiee said, on July 22, 2017 at 6:55 pm

I think this is basically how the front office wants to finish the season. Win enough games that the fans stay reasonably interested.
It’d be nice not to lose 100.
And it would be nice to keep Bochy’s career record over .500.
It’d be nice to play well vs. the Dodgers in the remaining games vs. them.
It’d be nice to finish ahead of the Padres, but I’m not sure we’re better than them. Just winning any games against them seems like a titanic struggle.
- djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:33 pm
  
  Zum, I hope you’re wrong on all counts. All that should matter to the FO is figuring out a way to unfuck itself and get this monstrosity moving in the right direction so it won’t take 15 years to fix…
  - alleykat69 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:47 pm
    
    Agree Loo!
    “Think most fans feel they’ve taken it up the ass with Mobile Gas,twice as far with a Milky Way bar”
chipower9 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:29 pm

Great memories from Boston and NYC. Let’s hit Wrigley next year. Who’s in?
- djloo27 said, on July 22, 2017 at 8:42 pm
  
  I can’t even plan tomorrow, but I would contribute to anything that might get Stix there…
  - chipower9 said, on July 22, 2017 at 9:32 pm
    
    Absolutely, Loo!
blade3colorado said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:32 am

Who knows if the Giants are serious about wheelin’ and dealin’???

I read where Schulman said dealing Samardzija would “make things tough” for the Giants’ immediate future, but San Francisco is in deal mode and needs to think creatively. An executive from another team told Schulman that the Giants are, in fact, being creative in trade talks, which Shulman defines as willing to deal core players and “make issues with contracts work.”

Not counting this season, Samardzija has three years and $59.4 million remaining on his current contract with the Giants and is set to reach free agency in 2021 at the earliest. Read that again, especially the part about $59.4 million. Me? Get rid of his 5 plus ERA worthless ass.

However, this really blows my mind about Brandon Belt. His salary jumps up to $17.2 million the next four seasons. We all know his .243/.349/.470 line isn’t great, but did you know his park-adjusted wRC+ is still better than Mookie Betts, Robinson Cano, Nolan Arenado, Miguel Cabrera or Xander Bogaerts? Granted, only Cabrera is a first baseman, but Belt isn’t the problem in San Francisco after I read that . . . and I have rarely been called a Belt fan. Any thoughts?
- willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:06 am
  
  oh man don’t get Flav started on Belt. I’m disappointed he isn’t hitting for better avg and still seems to be learning to use whole field vs. shift. His power seems to be gap to gap, which is tough at ATT where he hits ball to dead CF on low middle pitches where he can extend his arms. Pulling ball down the line would give him more bombs; doesn’t happen often enough.
  And without going into a lot of saber stuff, his numbers look ordinary (BA HR RBI) for salary bump.
  I think he’s getting there, and he still has second best OPS but in the meantime, team could sure use an explosion from him.
  No way his D could be replaced easily either, but teams don’t pay 1b for that.
  - blade3colorado said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:40 am
    
    Not saying I wouldn’t trade/package Belt to another team. My point is more toward whom to jettison 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.
    
    Smarg’s contract is obscene. More importantly, it seems like there are teams whom desire his services.
    
    Besides the roster being old, we’re paying our guys top dollar, approaching the luxury tax threshold. Consequently, we can’t make many moves to improve the team, until we reduce some of these dead weight contracts.
willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:15 am

imo that’s another reason they are where they are/dodgers are where they are.
Some of their guys are having great seasons vs. none of Giants are anywhere near exceeding expectations, even Posey.