There is a LOT Going on Today
Well, this is going to be QUITE the day. Horse racing and Bumgarner. That is quite the exacta. Thankfully not competing for my time.
Funny story. I woke up, hadn’t had coffee yet, was at Draftkings and I clicked on the SF pitcher for tonight’s game. It said Cahill. I was like, “What, Bum’s pitching today I thought.” Lol. Then I remembered I needed to click on the AZ pitcher if I wanted to see Bumgarner’s name……
Anyway, I’m a pretty sentimental person when it comes to almost anything. I will hold the memories that country fuck’s given me FOREVER in my heart.
But we need this game. I hope we light his ass up.
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i cannot BELIEVE it took me my entire life to see this clip. Lol, BALLER move
Kind of thing J Robinson not allowed to do. Btw found nice Larry Doby reference in J Shea’s “24” book on Mays–he barnstormed 1955 off season with Mays who took over Robinson’s group after he retired. Hank Aaron was on that team plus Campanella, Mays OF buddy Monte Irvin, Ernie Banks and Don Newcombe.
Team played 28 exhibitions and won them all.
Aaron said, “It was the best team I ever played on.”
Somewhere, Mike de la Hoz is insulted…
Holy shot. That is hilarious….
mm that was old school move that definitely used to happen back in day. Never saw that one before either.
Still can’t get over how Flaco turned into Loco and ruined Giants big inning. Only thing I can think of is he went back to tag and saw Duggar bluff down the line and put his head down and took off.
Coonrod with back to back meltdowns. um, Sac will be about 110 this weekend.
Watched Opie wipe these guys out the other night, gave up 1 IF hit in 6 innings. Fastball topped out at 92, often very well located down and away on black. different speeds on slider 83 ish curve even slower. It’s a command thing and he knows how to get hitters out–when he tires and hangs breaking balls he gets hurt. I think his ERA is 1.50.
Kershaw today is everything we hoped Zito could’ve been.
His 2012 performance was a miraculous aberration…
DBax one of worst hitting teams in league coming in. 14th for runs on base and slugging. They’ve hit 32 HRs to Giants 51, team BA .233 to Giants .268. 12 hits last night 4 doubles and Marte HR. Plus they’d just traded away one of their few standouts Starling Marte. Turned 4 DPs last night including Dubon gaffe.
A couple names to the faces in this story on the Randle video, along with another infamous between both teams five days later. Fun fact: Randle was one of the players traded by the Giants when they sent Bill Madlock to the Pirates in ’79.
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/article211615039.html
wow thx Mac awesome vid highlights from ESPN.
That story has the wrong pitcher. It was Milt Wilcox, not Bob Johnson, who threw behind Randle and then got leveled on the bunt.
Here’s the box score: https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TEX/TEX197405290.shtml
Isn’t Randle the guy that blew a bunt into foul territory? He’s famous for some quirky moments.
Yep. I alao think he punched a manager once. Interesting dude.
Yeah, it’s going to be supremely weird to watch the Giants facing Bum. I still think it was the right move to let him walk, but he’ll forever be an all-time SF great.
What LJ said, it’s going to be weird seeing Bum face old teammates Belt and Craw (assuming both get the start vs. a lefty). If not for the DH, I have little doubt that Bum would hit a bomb off one of our crappy pitchers.
He might do just that. His hitting may be better than his pitching at this point.
It should be a fun game today. I forgot all about 10 cent beer night.
AZ manager should let Bum hit…
Great find on that video, Mac. I’m not afraid to say it, but I miss that old-school version of the game, edgy, non-PC, tough. Like so much stuff these days, baseball has become sanitized, to its detriment. The ’70’s was a great decade for the game. So many great players, characters and teams. That decade cemented my lifelong passion for the Giants, even though they sucked most of the time.
And yeah, 10 cent beer night may not have been the best idea ever, especially in Cleveland. LOL
Apparently, there were no ejections from the Randle bunt incident! Yeah, it sure was a different time.
That sums up the ’70’s perfectly. These days he might end up in jail. This is right up there with Disco Demolition Night.
Bases loaded no outs and Dumbon pulls a Ruben Rivera on the base paths on a short fly to right that only Flavor’s guy Billy Ham might try to score on.You just can’t be that stupid late in the game, it was a game killer mistake..
Yeah as much as we honor Bum’s tremendous accomplishments with the Giants, he hasn’t been the same pitcher ever since his ill advised dirt bike incident.Now he ends up signing with the Dirt-Bags cause he thought they are a winning organization he wanted to lead.Lol they have tanked so bad the GM dumped 4 key players, had to apologize to the fans, who are all pissed as they know this team just got worse then better..
First game back for Bum after along injury layoff and how bad he has pitched all year the Giants should be able to tee off on him early and often, but then again he does have the motivation factor going for him facing his old team. Either way it’s a can’t miss TV 📺 game..
Unbelievably boneheaded play by Dubon. If the guy was some kind of screaming talent, I could live with it, but my impression is that he isn’t. He flails away at the plate and seems prone to regular gaffes. I don’t think he’ll ever be more than a utility player.
Bum chose AZ for its cattle accommodations…
If the team tanks from here, Boob-on’s boner will never be forgotten.
What an absolute dumbbell…
Dubon’s gaffe was the second straight day I saw a player make an unbelievably dumb out on the bases. In Yanks-Mets on Thursday, Yanks’ Tyler Wade was the free runner on second to start the top of the 10th. Leadoff batter hits a line drive to RF Conforto, and Wade immediately broke for third expecting the ball to fall in . . . except it was caught, and he was easily doubled off second. Mets won in the bottom of the 10th.
Keith Hernandez rails every game about poor fundamentals, but will also point out when they are executed properly. He’s really the best…
Hey Loo, Do they ever show the Just for Men hair dye and mustache back in NY with Hernandez?
They were quite funny as he was using the product to show how u can be a chick magnet using it!🤣😜
No play for Mr. Grey!
Dubon did get two hits last night; but, yeah, the baserunning mistake was a crusher.
The whole inning ended with fiasco. The bases were loaded and none out, and the heart of the batting order up, and pfffftt.
I would nail his dumb ass to the bench.
He should be fined, too…
Jaylin Davis recall time anyone to play CF?
Kruk awhile back with both Slater and Yaz in the outfield with Dubon said as the telegraph was showing the outfield Left to Right, best arm Dubon in center I nearly spit up my drink!
His arm isn’t even that strong on the infield, doesn’t come close to Crawdaddy’s when he plays there occasionally..
Stuck on a terrible team for 4 more years and now with the DH probably going in full time next year, Bum can’t even hit and you all know that’s got to be killing him as well.Kinda feel sorry for Bum now.
Guess he can have some fun with his City Slicker cattle drives with his horse Mr.Ed too talk to while he yells out
“Get em up move em out,get em up moving out, get em up moving out Rawhide, keep them doggies rolling Rawhide! Yee Ha..
After I finished screaming at the TV, Mrs. James, who’s very sweet on Dubon, pointed out that Dickerson did fail to bring home the run and Longoria didn’t run on the grounder to 3rd. Once Dickerson popped out, the Giants’ chances of not scoring a run in the inning jumped 20%, from 16 to 36%. Longo is on pace to ground into
3025 DPs over a full season. Have I helped anyone find a little forgiveness?How do you forgive when you can’t forget..
Though with managers and players in a 162 game season have to have the mindset every game to shrug it off.
God the pressures of a manager I could never handle that.You want to scream at a player for screwing up but you need to keep it inside and best to deal with it one on one after the game in his office.
Hey Kat—you know I’m with you on getting Jaylin Davis up here and in the line-up, but I don’t think CF is the place for him.
Gravedugger is the guy for CF–esp after Dubon’s screw up last night. I’d like to see Kap give Duggar the next start in CF against a RHP.
So, JD rotates in as a platoon with Dickerson and DH’s when Flores plays 1st?
Or has Yakkin’ Yaz fallen *that* far out of favor with you?
I’m down with that plan. I still want to see Yaz’ and his antics out there on the daily.
Not surprised Billy Martin was mgr. of Texas while all that went on. Probably did exactly what Randle did during his playing days.
iirc there was incident with Giants where I think Willie Mac told pitcher not to field the bunt that he’d deal with it and any repercussions from pissed off batter looking for revenge.
My mom had old school take on fining guys for mental errors. She used to say it all time watching TV games…”I’d fine him $50.”
Once in a while Krukow will say a player will be fined in kangaroo court. I don’t believe players do kangaroo courts, anymore. Krukow surely knows they don’t exist any more. Does anyone know of them still existing? Players haven’t mentioned them in 30 years.
I think they’ve been priced out…
I could see Davis taking Ruf spot. As well as Flores and Belt are hitting there isn’t any room for at 1b, and with only 1 HR in 57 ABs he hasn’t done much to help OF or DH.
It will be interesting to see how well Dickerson can do rest of 3 weeks. It’s easy for good couple games to skew the numbers in short sample size. Looking at some fangraphs stuff, he is laying off out of zone pitches and his iso power is way up right now over last year.
Wasn’t that long ago he was hitting .195, so let’s see what he can do especially at home with archways closed.
Allman bros band from 2007 on wwoz right now.
Loved the Allman Brothers Band. My original jam band before I was turned-onto the Dead.
i’ll have to switch over soon. Just listened to Blues by the Bay Tom M’s replay of an interview he did with Albert Collins in Feb. 82, before Collins’s two Saturday night shows at the Old Waldorf. I took my girlfriend to the 8 pm show. One of the best.
The Waldorf was a great place for live music. John Prine was one of the best shows I ever saw there. I think in the later years it had been sold to Bill Graham, and he ultimately closed it.
I could see Robertson as the primary player at many positions going forward.
With him on board there is no reason to keep Panda around. He needs the Pence release and it might happen soon. No room for an overweight non productive player any more taking up a valuable roster spot..
1. Slater, DH
2. Flores, 2B
3. Yastrzemski, RF
4. Longoria, 3B
5. Ruf, LF
6. Belt, 1B
7. Robertson, SS
8. Bart, C
9. Dubon, CF
Good to see Slater back leading off.
Bad to see Ruf batting 5th ahead of Belt the hottest hitter in baseball! Memo to Kapler check the stats once in awhile…
I wonder if Madbum’s velo will be high enough to handcuff Bart inside? The kid’s been taking lessons for many games now. Then there is that cutter.
Flav – you and I again sharing the same sentiments on Bum. Will always cherish the memories he brought, and meeting him in the Charlotte airport on the way to Boston. But yeah, I hope they light his country ass up like a xmas tree.
Doobie back in there. Kap is hilarious. Maybe he’ll pinch-run for him.
The clarity and sincerity of Doubon’s mea culpa after the game surprised me. He’s not stupid and he’s not a bad guy. Maybe he’s just not a good mlb player. Now, about Bart . . . .
Xoot , Dubon cop to his mistake and said “I cost us the game” I ran with my head down when it should of been up seeing if Duggar was going are not, I thought he was going but it’s all on me..
Dubon is a major leaguer no doubt in my book, his average is .286 since a recent hot streak, nothing wrong with that.And they threw him into CF this year which is one of the hardest positions to learn and overall with his speed has done a good job out there.
He’s young and will only get better with more experience, hell it’s really only his 1st less then a half season for him, give him time. One thing he could do is at weight and strength to that small frame, he’s listed at 160 lbs 6’0 way to skinny.Maybe hang out with Panda that would work putting on the pounds..
I hope you’re right. Pablo does know this place down on Mission, at the foot of Bernal Heights, where you can grab a huge bag of great tacos to go late at night. Perfect for a young guy on a budget.
Betcha Bum goes 5+strong/80 or so pitches/1-2 ER…
His first game back? And why ERs? 4 ok, 80 more or less, 4 runs
No prediction here. I mentioned earlier I hope they light him up, but really, I would be OK with him having a strong outing, just as long as the Giants ultimately get the W.
A’s up on Dago 2-0 bottom 2.
Not sure if everyone will be able to read this. Scott Harris’s take on the current state and future. Interesting read.
https://theathletic.com/2042901/2020/09/04/kawakami-giants-gm-scott-harris-on-marco-luciano-patrick-bailey-and-much-more/
Maybe someone needs to show this to Yaz:
It’s all Hunter Pence’s fault. Before he left, he told Yaz that he (Yaz) was the best ballplayer he’d ever seen. I forget who tweeted that out. Pav maybe.
Unfortunately Bart adjusts his batting gloves between every pitch. Not as crazily as Garciaparra, but still….
that two-handed twist on the pine tar above the grip is a great touch. the BS Guy’s good.
The sport doesn’t need batters having elaborate rituals between every pitch, or pitchers doing it either.
Gimme the pitch clock.
In a Covid-19 season with no fans in the stands every player is taking advantage of being slackers in the batters box and even the umps maybe allite more laid back, knowing arguments with managers are mostly non existent.
I agree with Chuck and I was pissed off too about Ahmed basically rearranging the whole batters box with his cleats like he was roto tilling ready to plant seeds. Then stepping out after the first pitch to do it all over again, which had Anderson yelling get in the box.
Anderson should of drilled his ass!!
Willedav your comment made me smile in memory of my dad. He would say the same thing.
His biggest pet peave of all was anyone not named Bonds swinging at a 3-0 pitch after the pitcher had walked a guy or two already. “GOD DAMMIT” I would fine that guy or bench him. God dammit I hate that”
Wise man your father was Mrsprtdude..
The Allman’s rule. One of the great bands with one of the greatest catalogs ever, when musicians were, you know, musicians. Love those guys.
PS..Glad Slater back Hope his power numbers continue to grow so i can call him Steve Austin Slater!!
Dubon might get better with experience. He also might not do shit. Baserunning is as fundamental to the game as anything, and it’s not that difficult. Buster Posey is a great baserunner and one of the slowest guys in the league. It’s about knowing situations, keeping your head up and taking the extra base when it’s there for the taking. A guy making it to the major leagues and not knowing that stuff concerns me.
It may seem off the wall to some, bit I could see Buster taking over the manager job from Kapler next season or in ’22. He’s flowing over with baseball smarts, knows how to go the other way with 2 strikes on him, has been managing pitchers for years, has the rings and respect all over baseball, particularly with Giants fans. Player-manager next season? Well, maybe.
Slater needs to stay on the field. Seems like whenever he starts to show something he goes down. Unlike Dubon, Slater is a guy who I’ve liked from the get-go. He’s worked hard and it shows on the field.
I’m sure Bart is uber-talented offensively, but his defense looks very suspect at this point and we were led to believe that it was one of his strong suits. Poor defense behind the plate can kill a team. Posey was a defensive stud from the start, as well as a clutch hitter.
It makes me wonder if that’s one reason Zaidi took another catcher in the first round this year. Can’t remember his name, local kid.
I give Bart a little slack for the lost pop-up in the twilight. A lot of players lose the ball in the twilight.
Yeah, but that was two of the exact same play in one week. He gets some slack, but it’d be nice if he was showing a little more on the defensive side of things.
Didn’t that ridiculous failure occur in the 3rd inning of a game that was dragging on more slowly than any game this year? First pitch was close to 7 pm, sunset was 7.30. Bart’s fuckup was in the dark, under the lights. Was his earlier pop up flub, off the THUMB of his mitt, in the sun? I don’t remember. The guy’s D is weak.
Whats up for the derby? Looking to make a dumb bet on the nose.
Is that the consensus among the Flappers, that closing the archways has affected how the park plays? Seems like such a small change, but it also seems like a lot more homers are being hit.
It’s made right-field more hitter-friendly.
Even guys like Yaz has had his share of base running blunders it happens, u just don’t want it happen in a big moment of a game..
Hell I’ll never forget Yaz’s 1st base hit as a Giant as the camera pans into the stands to show his wife and family members. Yaz gets a base hit and maybe being to pumped up took a wide turn around first and they threw behind him and nailed him easily getting back to the bag.Welcome to the big leagues kid. Then the camera goes back and shows his wife,first all excited then her head bowed down in what the hell just happened look..🤣🥵
I didn’t hear about Tom Seaver’s passing until Wednesday. Really sorry to hear about it and 75 is way too young. Great player and guy and part of one of the greatest baseball stories ever. Phenomenal talent.
Sole Volante FTW baby.
Kentucky Derby 🐎 Picks by Kat that are never right! Hell give me a mint julep and get on with the race!!
I am going to shock no one and take
1)Tiz the Law
2)Honor A.P.
3) NY Traffic
Just scratched because the horse freaked out and took a nasty fall heading back to the stall ( maybe camera’s spooked him) is #10 Thousand Words a vet scratch, right call on a nasty spill..🐎
I read recently that race-horses can live 20-25 years, although their racing careers are only a few years. I had no idea. But then again, I know very little about horses.
I know that horses were unknown to Native Americans until Europeans brought them over post-1492.
And then, of course, some tribes became excellent riders of horses. And, of course, there were many millions of buffalo roaming free in North America.
Oops, I meant to say domesticated horses were brought post-1492. There were types of wild horses in North America for millions of years that had not been domesticated.
This is a fun fact:
“Horses were first domesticated on the plains of northern Kazakhstan some 5,500 years ago — 1,000 years earlier than thought — by people who rode them and drank their milk.”
I had read that tribes people in Asia would make little cuts in horses to drink their blood to keep from dying of thirst in dire situations.
“If they leave him alone, he’ll be fine.” Said by Baffert to tvg guys after Authentic last workout at Del Mar before he left. Only one out of about dozen of their people picked Authentic.
Yeah I’m sure Baffert was pissed off that his other horse Thousand Words was a late scratch due to being spooked on the way back to his stall by cameras maybe clicking.
Authentic really impressed and a big size horse with obvious endurance that Tiz the Law could not close on at the finish..
“was in the dark, under the lights.”
I looked right out a window when it happened. It looked like twilight to me. We can disagree on it.
I looked out the window over the bay at that time too. It was dark.
And aren’t you in lower latitude Modesto, Zumie? Very mysterious . . . .
the mlb highlights show the early part of the top of the 3rd (dback run) before Bart’s failure
If Dubon starts to show some power, he may stick. Zaidi would love a couple of mid-700s OPS utility guys who play plus defense in the IF/OF.
He keeps hitting doubles, I’m fine with doobie Dubon.
Mets announcers were ripping Bryce Harper for not taking charging of a shallow fly that 2B Neil Walker ended up having to back-pedal to catch, enabling Todd Frazier to tag from third and score. Harper then got tossed between innings for arguing over a ball he laced down the 1B line that he thought was fair but was called foul.
‘taking charge’
a friend back east sent me a text yesterday to say that Charlie Hayes’s son was playing good 3B for the Pirates. The Pirates? I did faintly remember Ch Hayes Sr’s two stints with the Giants. But the Pirates? What division are they in this year?
If it was English soccer, it’d be the Second Division.
Earlier, Phils starter Spencer Howard struck out Mets batter Dom Smith.
So that’s Howard K Smith.
Last night’s game had its first pitch at 6:45. Sunset was at 7:30, whatever that means. The length of twilight is literally a gray area. So…..we can check it out tonight. Let’s see what time it’s officially dark. I know the ballpark lights get turned on at some point during twilight, but players still find it challenging to see the ball in that situation.
My latitude is 37.63. San Francisco’s latitude is 37.77. A negligible difference.
I don’t know how to factor in the Coastal mountain range. This won’t be exact science. 🙂
No. Last night’s game was unusually slow in the early innings. Go back to last night’s blog posts to verify that. And then go to mlb’s highlights for the game to watch video from the top of the third, before Bart’s fuckup, and you’ll see multiple small shadows around the players’ feet and a dark sky. The lights were in control. I have no idea how dark the sky will be tonight at the top of the third. I hope it’ll be twilight. Last night’s game was interminable. And painful.
I’m just curious what time it actually gets dark.
SF “civil twilight” 7:31 – 7:58 pm 8/5/20. The first two innings went very long last night. The top of the third was pretty long too, before the pop-up,
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san-francisco?month=9
Bart did lose that pitch in the twilight, though.
I still have last night’s game recorded. Between innings tonight I fast-forwarded to the bottom of the third of last night’s game. Before the bottom of the third starts, there is a camera shot of the Bay Bridge, and the sky is clearly not dark yet.
And the sky in the camera shot seems hazy, too. From the fires still?
my dear sweet god what a stupid argument. look at the mlb replay. look at the scientific daylight stats. If you have a recording of Bart’s fuckup, clip it and post it here so that we can see him lose the ball in the “twilight” while everyone else on the field sees exactly where the ball is, including the pitcher, who saved his ass.
I looked right at the video clip of the sky at start of the bottom of the third. A hazy, but not dark sky. Anyone who has the game recorded can see it.
my dear sweet god. Bart didn’t see the ball; everyone else did. The sky was dark and the lights had taken control. It was not “twilight.” Bart’s got problems with his D. No excuses.
Hey atleast they don’t have to worry about Twilight Pence anymore in the outfield.,
Longo ball!
Longo Longball! BOOM!
Longo going yard off of Bumgarner!
That was tagged!
MadBum giveth
Giants should get 3 off him today…
Ruf inning so far for Bum.
Is there an echo? 😂
Ruf day for Bum all of a sudden…
Back to Back Jacks!’
Ruf inning for Bum..
That was not a cheapie dead center and way back!!
A packed stadium would’ve helped Bum, IMO…
Agree. He would have gotten a lot of love from the Giants fans…
There’s nothing to pump him up in a meaningless game for his team.
That’s what he used to use Puig for…
Yep…him and Puig. Those were always interesting…I would take Bum in a steel cage match…
Yard is going to be giving up A a lot of bombs this weekend with the hot weather..
It’s more then over due for Bart to get his 1st HR
I’m calling one tonight !!
Hope you’re right, Kat. He is fucking long overdue.
Bart lost that 2-2 fastball in the effulgence of Bum’s past glory.
This one looks like it’s headed for a 9-7 pitchers’ duel…
MadBum had no trouble with Bart up and in. Bart doesn’t have a hole in his swing, he lacks half a zone.
Yeah Bart loves to extend his arms, teams are pounding him inside, he has to make adjustments for the inside stuff, maybe even back off the plate a bit and he can turn on that inside pitch better..
Bart saw nothing but 4-seam fastballs from MadBum—all well up in the zone. Bumgarner’s scooter accident took off his edge. The juiced ball is the reason he is no longer a Giant. Look up the stats and compare his seasons pre and post the lower-seamed ball. When he really got hurt was when there were runners on base. Didn’t happen so far tonight, just a couple old pros taking advantage of their experiences.
Chi, like me and you sometimes when we vent about the LU card and say WTF is this guy batting in this spot?
Tonight I wasn’t thrilled to see Ruf batting ahead of Belt, then he goes yard, maybe are negatively works on these hitters lol..
Negativity has worked really well for me. All the more reason to be believe that some of the guys read the Flap. 😉
86 degrees in SF right now, unreal. Ball is going to be flyin’ all night…
I love it. Three virtually unknown Orioles pitchers shutting down the Yankmes into the sixth. Looks like all those years down in the dumps are finally paying off via good drafts for Baltimore. Moments before posting this NY got on the board.
Not even 3 innings for over-the-Cahill.
Lulz Mac
I don’t get the quick hook on Cahill, must be an injury?
That’s my guess. I think they said earlier that was the reason (discomfort) for a short start last outing, too.