Snakes Paying Us Back For Last Year
I was hanging in there till LLovera Boy took the stage. That band got tired in the 80s
At least Cobb made it through 6 for the second game in a row.
That’s something I guess.
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yeah the insurance run that eventually did them in. Last year maybe Ruf walks off Melancon (!) with 2 run bomb. Instead he whiffs on 91 cutter.
Didn’t realize it, but that’s 5 straight losses at home. SF actually closer to AZ in standings than SD.
Bart 0-3 1 K. 2-13 since he returned. Still hitting .155 but maybe making more contact, idk.
Gonzalez has made 16 starts in OF but has more errors (4) than Slater and Yaz combined (3). these guys have 48 starts btw them. He’s a good enough hitter but makes his share of fielding gaffes out there.
good thing they get to play 162. Or maybe that’s a bad thing I dunno
Cobb has been mostly good all season. Third killed him, with the 4 hits, 1 walk, and of course, the error. Pfffttt!
Also, 3 hours and 46 minute game . . . Hats off to all who watched.
and K n K et al need to stop whining about a ball would have been HR yada yada like one Belt hit.
How many times in 20 yrs have Giants fans laughed at guys who crushed one into wrong part of the yard and wound up getting ATT’d? Happened to Adam Dunn all the time and pitchers were thankful for it.
Yeah, and next inning Marte blasted ground-rule to C-R that’s probably HR in most parks. Maybe AZ announcers were whining.
No one’s lost more homers than Belt at ATT.
It’s his own fault for not changing his approach to suit those dimensions…
When I want to get rid of the hiccups, all I have to do is pull out this card…
lqtm
Eat green olives. More satisfying.
Where is that photo — Wrigley?…
I’d say it’s gotta be Wrigley, Snarkk…
Yep.
Two game winning streak showing some offensive life to back to reality of fairly inept lineup. With Longoria down what is there to lose pursuing Andujar. Add Josh Bell and have the makings of a new offense for next season if you can resign Josh Bell.
huh one year out of long career with dodgers going back to Brooklyn days, then 1963 with Mets/64 with SF.
saw something in NYT yesterday about Red Hook area of Brooklyn, pic of Columbia St. from late 1930s, in story about Italian named Panto (?) who worked on docks there and became labor organizer. Ran afoul of union, at that time led by Albert Anastasia, with predictable results.
Loverboy…Everybody’s working for the weekend!
Yeah the perfect song after you get off work on Friday
and your hairs on fire as your about to party till your Monday
Morning hangover starts your new ween back up!Uhh the 80’s great times for sure
especially with the 49ers dominating the football world of SB’s and house parties going full Animal House!!
HBD to Oakland’s own Paul Silas who turns 79 today. Saw him live during 70s when he came to town with Connie Hawkins and Suns, show not to be missed. Rugged power forward in days when game was lot more physical. Averaged double digit boards 7 years in a row.
At age 35, played all 82 games for Champ Sonics 1978-79 plus 17 more in playoffs. No he didn’t need designated rest day and his team won it all for only time in their history.
Dude was as wide as a barn.
Could use his uni shorts to tent a house for termite treatment…
Interesting lineup vs. LHP tonight.
Slater CF
Flores 2b
Mercedes LF
Ruf 1b
Estrada SS
Villar 3b
Gonzalez RF
Wynns DH
Bart C
Webb P
As someone said the other day, Wynns just cannot be your DH…
Mercedes was DFA’d three weeks ago and now he’s hitting 3rd for the Gigantes?…
“ Also, 3 hours and 46 minute game . . . Hats off to all who watched.”
We were there in person. I philosophized to Mrs. James that “a 30 minute half inning when you’re winning might have some tension; when you’re losing, it’s just pure tedium.”
“ Didn’t realize it, but that’s 5 straight losses at home.”
I’m on an 8-game losing streak at Oracle, by far the longest I’ve experienced. Incredibly, I’ve witnessed nearly 20% of the Giants home losses over the last 2 years.
Was it you that Zumiee and I heard ranting like a psychopath?
In between my philosophical moments, I can let the demons take over …. I certainly have an excuse!
1-1 this year. had a streak before the early win where in the 5 games I saw we scored a grand total of 1 run. The 1 run coming on one of the last games Trevor Bauer pitched for the dogs. A 2-1 loss.
I think Willie Mays was about 1 for 25 when my dad took me to games in the 60’s…
“It’s too bad there’s a Giants game on tonight, otherwise we could watch a movie.”
Just spin up “A Night to Remember” instead.
Spoiler: like Giants, the late innings don’t go well…
This goes from romantic comedy to tragedy in a way that is as jarring as the worst blown save you’ve ever seen
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Is_Made_at_Night_(1937_film)
How about that run away freight train Mercedes hustling out an RBI double!
And I was going to watch “Unstoppable” again but his rumble was fun to see..
That works for me.
Now that was some good comedy right there a 3 run triple as the RF falls down losing the ball in the sun and they throwaway into the dugout for Villar to score! Nice 4 runs to start with for Webb!
Highlight blooper for sure.
Yep, I’m liking this Villar ‘kid”
Longo who?…
Longo: “I once met a man who wasn’t there…”…
Kat, “Unstoppable”, good one, like that film….
Yeah Denzel&Pine had some good chemistry going on in that one Paul..
Of course Denzel is awesome in so many movies.I dug him in “Flight” how cool and collective he was , hiding his cocaine and alcohol addiction and under control till he wasn’t anymore..
Bart gets a hold of that one.
I think Bart will be fine, just let him play. No other good options anyway…
Agreed.
Mercedes was on cruise control that time.
I’m going to keep insulting Mercedes if he keeps hitting dingers and doubles.
And, if he keeps this up, I’ll upgrade him to BMW…
If he keeps misplaying line drives like that, he’s back down to Chevy…
Bart getting some confidence?
Hope so…
I’m getting confidence just watching some young hitters in the LU, instead of the usual stiffs..
Dallas sucks.
Didn’t even know he was still in MLB until tonight.
really bad right from first pitch. Nice to see Giants bats go off, but they aren’t gonna see soft tossing chump like this again.
Estrada joins the party.
Would be such a great statement to cut Longoria loose…
Make it so, Number 1….
I keep a copy of Unstoppable on my dvr to sample for amusement once in a while; I prefer the working-class Denzel of Inside Man. fwiw, for a lawyer movie, I recommend Michael Clayton. Big Law laid bare.
Bart must be borderline bipolar. Enjoy the manic episodes. Mercedes’s HR tonight was amazing. zero to 112 or some shit in two seconds. On his way to BMW status, for sure.
Agree about Inside Man, I’ve watched it a few times and learn something new each time…
Player A: .242/.331/.462 OPS .793
Player B: .253//340/.440 OPS .780
B is of course universally loved Flores
A is universally hated Longoria. In limited time almost exact same hitter.
I’d say Z might IL LaStella to 60 or more, but otherwise he told Shea he will prioritize D and isn’t in on SP.
“In limited time” is the key phrase there….
“Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
Oh how I wish he’d go away…” Hughes Mearns
Although Longoria isn’t laundry, right? I’ve wondered if my appreciation of the 1981 Giants would have been diminished if there had been a half dozen Guy Sularz’s instead of one.
“I’ve always felt he was one of the best breaking ball umpires in the league.”
Walcott has been a ML umpire since 2013. I’m gonna miss Kruk when he’s gone.
Book of Eli??
Pass.
Ponch with the double dip.
Never thought Estrada would have this kind of pop.
Maybe the real deal…
The new younger Altuve?
he’s not as good as Altuve, even without the buzzer, but he’s good
Time for the forgettable position pitcher throwing 45 mph now up 10-0..
Called it Lol 😂the stupid position pitcher adding stats for the hitters..
Anybody notice Kuiper’s new announcing habit when he’s unsure of an outcome?
He does it constantly now…
Guess they don’t care about the shutout…
I’ve noticed Kuiper’s new tic but I can’t remember it. I also can’t watch the position player pitcher in late innings.
No season has ever bored me before. A friend said the same today — he attended a game recently and felt like he needed an IV infusion to remain awake.
baseball’s in trouble
AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAnd it IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIsssssss, foul…..
AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAnd it IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIsssssss caught in front of the warning track…..
that’s no big deal
his inability to pronounce Alcantara is worse
Jesus. The position player pitching shit IS getting out of hand.
What’s most amazing to me is that a major league player whose not a pitcher suddenly throws like he’s never picked up a baseball when he gets on the mound…
We have 16 pitchers and we have to burn our OFer?
Should this be considered a hold for Gonzalez?
Gonzo preserves the shutout!
Rather see the ball dude are ball gal close it out..
Pablo was pretty good on the mound…. (limited sample size)…
well, he had a curve
This position player pitcher BS has got to STOP. It’s insanity.
Kappler went out there to tell Gonzales to stop throwing hard.
So, what happens when a guy like Gonzales blows out his elbow or an oblique “throwing” off the mound, even if he’s throwing easy? They aren’t pitchers. So, then we’re down a good OFer for 2 months or the rest of the year just to rest a dude like Littel for one inning? Are the DBacks gonna be trying to hit Littel anyway when they’re down 13-0? No, it’s hit the showers and get to the hotel for some grub and/or the high priced hooker visit…
Heh heh. Arguing this same shit on FB. Not that I gave a shit, but Jose Canseco lost half a season to TJ surgery after pitching for the Rangers.
Position players pitching is the worst. At some point a young guy has to say fuck that I’m not getting hurt…Agrre with snarkk 100%
It was fun back when Rocky Colavito did it…
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1079139-rocky-colavitos-greatest-performance-with-the-new-york-yankees
Well, that’s the thing. It was a rarity when teams carried 8 pitchers. Now with 14 pitchers you get this all the time.
Read something from J Stark (Athletic and NYT) about new experiment with shift in Florida State League. No IF allowed in pie shaped diagonal line outward from 2b to edge OF grass in both directions. Minor leagues found just limiting 2 IFs on each side of base did not affect amount of ground balls turned into outs. So they are limiting how close to 2b the IFs can be depending on LH or RH hitter.
Further there is in place a committee of players an ump and owners to go over things. Includes Slater, and Giants Chas. Johnson.
Think today’s game is opener for SF. Guess that’s why Gonzalez was in there but using non pitchers is awful.
If Kapler fucks up Gonzalez’s shoulder in the name of resting his 7-deep pen, then fuck him. He’s our best hitter.
James, that end of series Giants sweep of Dodgers Sunday game my mom, dad, uncle, and 4 cousins went to, cost $600 per seat (3rd row back of home plate). My uncle’s son, whom is quite rich (running shoe warehouses), purchased all the tickets. The only freebies were food and drink – as much as they wanted, although limited to the “regular” park fare, e.g., hot dogs, sausages, hamburgers, garlic fries, beer, etc. No crab sandwiches in other words . . . lol. Anyway, that game by all accounts was a fun one to go to, but it does seem like most of the games are bore fests, particularly the ones that last upwards of 3 hours plus and where, the Giants lose.
Watching Braves-Mets, Braves organist played Mr. Ed song for Eduardo Escobar, who then crushed a HR to R-C. Others I’ve heard: Dock of the Bay — Francisco Lindor; Can’t You See — Mark Canha; Dominic the Donkey — Dom Smith.
He’s on my Twitter feed. Good stuff
Dominant win last night, very cool!
But…..I am so done with position players pitching. Make it go away. It’s painfully embarrassing to watch, and it’s not a good look for the sport.
And it’s not a good look for Kapler, IMO. It makes him look like Mr. Jump-on-any-trend.
Talk this morning on KNBR about this position player as pitcher topic.
It’s going on all over the league on a regular basis.
They’ve gone to DH in both leagues now supposedly because pitchers can’t hit. So, now they make a position player pitch who can’t pitch?
The alleged rationale is that despite 13-14 pitcher pens, they are using the pens so much because starters don’t go more than 5-6 now, any use of a pen pitcher in a blowout in either direction is considered a waste of a pen arm.
This makes absolutely no sense to me for all the reasons we’ve noted above.
It’s just further evidence of the continuing degradation of the game…
This is apparently the rule (and context) under which it can be used.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/ct-dave-roberts-mlb-pitching-rule-20220605-s4kjotryqvaplaaxtrfsvbkvca-story.html and,
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-trends-new-wrinkle-to-position-players-pitching-marcus-semien-loses-power-more-four-man-outfields/
By the by, the average pitcher start is 4.96 innings through May 16.
My bad. It’s worse than that . . . there had been 244 games played in the 2022 season. Double that number to account for each game having a starting pitcher for each team, and you’ve got 488 starts. Per FanGraphs, those 488 starts yielded 2,302.67 innings pitched, or 4.72 per start. (info posted 3 days ago).
The article talks also about teams now using 4 man outfields.
That IS beer league stuff. Talk about taking athletic plays away from the game.
That should only be allowed in limited circumstances like bottom of the 9th with less than 2 out and runner on 2nd or 3rd.
This crap has to stop — it’s destroying the reasons to watch this game…
It gets worse snarkk, as the same article says this is a trend confined to one division (AL East I think) and it is going to encompass all MLB soon. Prepare for the 4 man outfield in the NL West. lmao.
Related to what I posted earlier about starting pitchers going the way of the Dodo bird, this is the definitive article on relief specialists and WHY MLB (owners and GMs) are doing it – MONEY. Specifically, it is much, much cheaper to pay for a relief corps versus starting pitchers. That’s why Atlanta has 13 of them . . . Excerpt:
“The Braves are committed to that model again this year, with 13 relievers making a combined $47.3 million. The Dodgers have also dedicated a substantial percentage of their ridiculous payroll to the bullpen with five relievers making at least $6 million. Seven relievers making at least $3 million each are among the biggest reasons why the Padres have been able to stay afloat with Fernando Tatis Jr., Blake Snell and Mike Clevinger all injured.”
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955675-the-newest-trend-taking-over-mlb-in-2022-and-beyond
This is what happens when you get a mouthpiece for a commissioner. Nothing but the bottom line is a concern for the owners OR the league.
Teams wonder why attendance is down, and you have shit like this. In 10 years, these huge TV deal will be gone and the game will shrink accordingly.
Well, from a $ perspective, the “opener” + relievers makes sense. Just remember the Zito contract and you get the idea. Why pay Zito that much to crater for most of those 6 years, when that $126 million could have been spread out among a double digit number of relief pitchers? And, when a relief guy’s arm blows up or he just turns into an ineffective turd and you DFA him (McGoo), the guaranteed money you end up eating is very limited (unless you pay him $64MM for 4, like Melancon). But, IMO this pitching paradigm shift away from starters is just horrible for the game…
If they’re going to turn baseball into essentially a 9 or 7 inning parade of relievers, they have to stop the shifts and everything else geared to stopping hits. 7 innings of a parade of 98 mph flamethrowers will result in just more pathetic games of 20+ total Ks, occasional HRs, and putouts at first from mid right field…
hmmn. AZ sends Marte to try and steal 2b on back end despite fact he’s had hamstring problems and hasn’t played field in a month?
According to game logs his last SB was June 15th
Shit, Long actually did a decent job of limiting the damage.
til now as Marte takes him out over CF fence.
yep
Damn. They sure don’t respect Estrada’s power. They were shallow as fuck.
Wow. that was ugly
Apropos of Flav’s lead, AZ is obviously much improved plus according to fangraphs they have 2nd best farm ranking in NL.
Wow. We can’t beat out 3rd to 2nd to 1st DP and they beat out grounders to 2nd.
We are sloooooow
Slow and OLD.
Desperately need an infusion of younger, good, athletic players with futures.
Villar and Gonzales are examples of more needed.
Not AAAA retread placeholders with a hard ceiling…
Well, Villar is 25 and couldn’t run out that DP.
He looks like he can hit, and has a decent glove, so far. Hard to find a big third baseman who can run much. They need somebody to take over for Longo the Invisible, he gone next year. I’ll take a glove and thumper at third over in-line speed…
I guess Long gets to wear this one. Jesus. Get him out..
Is Brebbia next on the DFA list in the pen?
I don’t see what premium, if any, he adds to the equation…
hey man, Kap must be listening though because that’s twice now he’s brought Rogers in early and he’s done fine. This time it was in 3rd inning to bail out Long and he had 2 1/3 hitless innings.
Not that this game is unwinnable, but it is third time in a week where SF is coming off feel good W and they just fall flat, with 1 hit in 5 innings. Just doesn’t feel like team that can run off 6-8 game winning streak.
and another GIDP.
Belt breaks into his homerun hobble. That was smashed.
OMG a successful sac fly.
Crawfish season is over.
Willllbuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrr! Fuck yeah!!!
Wilmet!
MVP
Mr.Ed!! Best clutch hitter on this team!!
We score one more run, he may pitch the 9th.
JESUS. Doval is out of control.