Zito’s Law
It seems like every time Zito pitches something stupid happens to us—like God hates the Giants when he pitches. Should Guillen have caught that ball? OF COURSE that hit by Lady B goes to the ONE guy on the field who is least likely to make that catch. I’d guess that every outfielder on our team makes that catch…..
2 hits? This year we have exactly 2 earned runs scored of Billingsley through 29.2 innings he’s pitched against us. Pathetic….
You can’t blame the loss on one guy unless you believe God hates Barry Zito and I think that’s an inarguable fact at this point. “When he pitches, dumb shit happens”. It’s Zito’s Law……..
The Padres continue to lose, even at home. This is still totally doable……..
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Flav, Andrew Luck might throw for 1,000 yds. today. They need to stop scheduling these types of games. Can the money Sac. St. receives be worth the humiliation these players must endure. Just bend ’em over once before the game, write them a check and send them on their merry way. There’s football, and there’s not fair. This isn’t fair. And usually I could give a flying fuck about fairness, but in this instance, teams need a balanced strength of opponents. There has to be other ways to trickle down money to the smaller schools. Shit, hold a damn bake sale.
Smaller schools need money? Eliminate the football program. That’s likely the biggest money loser when you filter out all of the subsidies. A b ake sale would be better, and it probably wouldn’t present the fraud of future professional chefs manning the booth.
Nobody knew about OBP or OPS back then. All that mattered was hits, HRS, RBI & BA. Even walks weren’t such a big fuckin’ deal (as a stat).
Cal over UC Davis 52 – 3. Scrubs played the second half. Which game is worse/better? Stanfoo vs. Sac St or Cal vs. UCD? Go Bears!….
Lilly has started 5 times against the Giants. He’s 1-3 5.12 ERA 31.2 IP 37 H 1.48 WHIP. They havn’t faced him since 2008 so not much to go on recently. Bochy put everybody in who has taken him deep- 5 guys have 6 HR in 72 AB against him. Good strategy. Sit down and watch the game. In Dennis’ case, have the nurse tie you down and watch the game..
Those stats are near meaningless. The squad has basically turned over since 2008. The LU tonite might be a bit more patient than the stiffs in 2008 with Huff, Rent and Posey in, and Panda out, but Huff’s scuffling and Rent is staggering off the DL. Rohand is Rohand, maybe he’ll get lucky for once and hit a dinger…
Fuck off, I pointed out they haven’t faced him in a couple years. They don’t have a better LU for tonight. And I’m using totals for guys who HAVE faced him, shitwax. What’s meaningless is your evaluation with NOTHING to back it. Like last night. Yeah, good idea PH a .294 OBP for .404.
So why post meaningless stats, just to show us you have ’em? That blows. If you want to endlessly argue the Guillen v. Ross, thing off and on in your posts during the day, that blows, too. If Bochy put Ross in, he’d probably make an out anyway, but it was something to consider. Sheezus, you turn every little thing with everybody into the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, just to hear your gums flap. Give it a rest, move on. There will be plenty tonite to grouse about, no doubt…
So why don’t you wait until then? Typical of your weasel ways-you blast “Rohand” AND leave yourself an out by saying he might get lucky and run into one. Soph bullshit, now Rowand goes deep and Snarkkfuck “intuited” it.
It’s not *meaningless*, he has to go with the data he has, asshole. He put 5 guys in who have taken Lilly deep. Makes total sense since it’s the only 5 he has who ever have.
And I’m still miserable about Pagan for Schofield. EVERYONE fleeced the Giants in those days.
Loo, don’t get me started about Ray Sadecki . . . grrrrrrrrrr
The stinker no one ever mentions was Hands & Hundley to Cubs for garbage. Might’ve won a couple of pennants with those two.
Luck has, what, about 300 yards inthe first half with 8 mins to go? Awesome. I’m still pissed off that they scored on that punt return. Sac state knew they were going to get killed, those players aren’t crying on the sideline. They’re probably having fun at this point celebrating the few positives that come there way. And the $$$ is good for the athletic dept, they need the freaking dough
Snarkk don’t forget about oregons 72-0 score. Look, these first gms are just like preseason practice. And the small schools make some dough. Nothing wrong with that relationship at all
I get it, they all do it. If I’m SJ State, I take the money and run, too. JoPah and the top SEC squads may be the worst at scheduling the old folks home in their openers and first coupla non-conference games. JoPah is probably scoping out the opponents for their retirement village accoutrements…
Loo is full of shit. Faneyte had a lifetime .264 OBP, .265 in 68 PA in the lead off spot. Sure, anybody can do it, Loo-igi.
I said anybody can do it.
I didn’t say they can do it well…
Rocks gave the Pads their 9th straight loss. I’m not going to search the archives, but a week or so ago, I predicted that they would have a losing streak (beyond the 3 games straight they had lost previously during the season).
VOILÀ!
I forgot who the “doubting Thomas” was (probably gringo), but it was some form of doomer entity.
You said they diodn’t have OBP then, Vito.
That was inna responsa to Blade’sa post abouta nineteena-sixty=fiva…
Almost missed this . . . Loo speaking in phonetic Italian (LQTM).
Loo/Denny: either of u take a shot at the 7 million dollar pick 6 at del mar today? 3-1 then 3/5 in the first 2 legs: big boy syndicates can’t be too happy to see that
Players routinely overestimate the value of carryovers, it would appear. They bet like they’re going to get a double payoff, when it appears the payouts will be only 20% more than usual ($1.5 million into a $7 million pool). The error is in thinking that the size of the pool is important. Beyond a certain minimum (which Del Mar reaches every day), only the proportion of carryover to overall pool is important in determing the expected value, am I right?
No, BF. I’m still brooding over Big Drama getting run down in the Forego.
Nope. In protest of Aaron Rowand being in the starting lineup and batting lead off tonight, I forwent my right to participate, and sat it out. Thanks, Aaron.
Twin, our mutual friend was able to contact his anti-virus provider and they “remote controlled” his pc and were able to fix the problem he was having.
Harmon Killebrew’s OBP in 1965 was .384, Bundini…
Mamma mia!!! I don’t think they knew that then. It was probably calculated retro-actively after the stat was invented years later. Either way, no one gave a fuck about it in those days.
Those who could, like, ADD, could always figger it out, Bumbigi… of course it was paid attention to.
Well I don’t remember play-by-play announcers referring to it back then. Did Sam Mele ask you to calculate it for him after you finished your homework?
I get accused (heaven forbid!!!) of being a stat freak. I guaranfuckingtee you that the scouts from the 60’s, men I knew, like Angelo Giuliani, would guess REAL close to a guy’s OBP in a millisecond if pressed for it. Don’t give me that shit, they didn’t give a crap about that stuff. They knew it without having a name for ther goddamn statistic.
Well “they” weren’t playing stickball in the gutter with me in 1965. And no one I knew was talking about Mays’ OBP. No announcers, no TV graphics. It didn’t exist for the average fan. Stat geeks back then read baseball cards, Baseball Digest and TSN. No OBP listed anywhere.
Today in History, 1781: Los Angeles was founded by Spanish settlers under the leadership of Governor Felipe de Neve.
Fooled me. I could have sworn his name was Gomez.
de Neve was phenomenal in 1781.
HGH, maybe?
OPB was “invented” by Branch Rickey in the 1950’s…
Cent’ anni!
Sorry,”OBP”
Well, Snarkk is confident that there will be plenty to bitch about this evening. The boy is PSYCHED!
You’ll certainly be leadin the charge if anybody questions anything Bochy does, or doesn’t get their votes in on time re: some move before it happens. Gawd forbid Posey might have a passed ball, or Cain gives up an HR. The sky will fall because of ROY’s ineptitude and we’ll all have to suffer through Bengilena flashbacks…
The only Whip back in the day was Ewell Blackwell.
Just land here, in Fuckwadville. DUCKY Schofield? Never heard him called that. Is he not the same as Dick Schofield, who also played with the Pirates and the Mets?
Anyway, anyway, stats are one thing, albeit an important element in the modern game. But there’s psychology and other intangibles. And with that in mind, I submit Bochy has been pretty decent as a manager. I also suggest that a bench player like Rowand is hungry, rested, and ready to contribute. No player — no professional player — wants to perform poorly. Of course not. So as a matter of pride — no matter how much money he is making or not making — he wants to excel. Of course. For many years while employed by various firms, I’ve used the example of Dave Winfield: when he was in Steinbrenner’s doghouse, hear the end of his stay with the Yankees, he was benched. And he was reportedly miserable. People would say, what’s he care? He’s making millions. Well, millionaires can be miserable (not something I know empirically). The point is: Winfield wanted to contribute. I’m sure Rowand does too (and I’m totally sure Zito does too, and trying too hard messes him up). This is not an apologia for rich, spoiled athletes. I’m just saying a rare start for someone — even a Schierholtz — could shrewdly pay dividends.
Or not.
We’ll see.
He was Ducky with the Pirates.
He was Sucky with the Giants.
I don’t know if anybody here questions Rohand’s desire to contribute. That said, I certainly have no evidence he’s given up, nor whether he’s got his gamer face on more than ever. If anybody’s got the inside scoop, let us know. Regardless, desire isn’t everything, if you can’t perform. His performance has sucked, is all, that’s why he doesn’t play anymore….
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Excellent p0st pawlie, potd when I get home
What am I, chopped lasagne?
Don’t believe him Pawlie . . . He promised me the same thing and I’m still waiting. Tick Tock Tick Tock . . . 🙂
I always lead the charge gainst the agents of ignorance…
Snarkklefuck over simplifies. I rarely put a mistake by the pitcher even partially on the catcher. Only when it’s justified, as the pitch to Babs. The pitch to Barajas, for example, simply got too much of the plate. The one to Babs was a conceptual error.
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I’m shocked that Flavor would make an Anti-Snarkklefuck piece the POTD. It represents everything that Snarkkles abhors. But agreed, nice opost.
I like Pawlie. Nothing he ever writes abhors me. I’m quite simpatico with his take on life and the game. Let BF and Pawlie speak for themselves whether his post was a potshot at me…
Pawlie, this whole idea sounds pretty half-baked…
like a poorly made canolli?
The Phillies do scare me. (Moved my daughter there this week; gonna love visiting her. A great town, in my view.) Charlie Manuel is right out of central casting. The Inquirer (a superb daily), which I read on the el cheapo Megabus back home), said Manuel is sticking with the lineup that brought him to the dance — pretty much — last year. There was grumbling about Utley and his injury. (Remember, they booed Santa Claus at an Eagles game. We are easygoing here compared to perennially defeatist Phils phans I know. You can hardly blame them though. Or us. Given history.)
It would be dreadful if we do not take more advantage of the Padres’ collapse, though. Shit, they can lose all those games and stay in first? Dreadful. We need to have a killer instinct, no mercy.
I hope Cain pitches like he did when he beat LA that Sunday night on ESPN.
Am I wrong or are first innings way more huge for the Giants than for other teams?
Everybody slammed you last night for the idiotic dig at Posey for Zitoid’s mistake. You don’t like Posey, either to just stir the pot or to fit your love of the role of the contrarian ass. So, maybe you miss Molina. Get over it. Posey’s here for the duration, and the team’s far better off with him…
AS posted before, you people have invented the preposterous notion that suddenly the catcher is divorced from responsibility on pitch calling and game management. It’s a disgraceful hypocrisy.
Brewers-Phils game is Forman-Ali. Punch-counterpunch.
A manager who made even a tenth of the mistakes that Kat and Snarkk and the rest of their kind allege that Bochy makes, wouldn’t have a job three games… let alone over a decade.
I’ve called Posey’s progression to a “T”, urged the trading of Molina.. I like Buster’s bat. There are legit questions about him behind the dish. More and more we’re seeing questions about the starting five’s regression. It may be “stirring the pot”, but that’s a good thing. It’s a valid issue and the numbers overwhelmingly demand that it be looked at.
You’re FOS. What’s the alternative at catcher now, El Presidente? There’s no damn point to your point. Posey is the catcher. He’s learning defensively and how to work with the pitchers, he’s hitting like Molina didn’t. Sabes was smart enough to weigh those tradeoffs for Buster doing OJT, and went with Posey, the right call. These same phuckin pitchers gave up plenty of homers and hits to pitchers over the last few years when Bengielena was catching. How many of those were Bengie’s phuckin fault? Some. Ya think nobody else here doesn’t think Posey needs to improve his D? So fuckin what, that’s no impressive, solo discovery. He’s here, he’s getting better. At least I rag on guys that don’t perform. Give it a rest…
Zito has given up 15 HR in 86 innings without Molina, 4 with in 84 innings. Listen up and this time take notes, fuck: I’m not wanting Bengie back, I’m making a valid criticism of the starting pitchers performance since Buster took over. That can be supported with the numbers, not some phony ambulance chaser’s cynical rhetoric. You may not like it but tough shit.
I really don’t think Philly is that good (sorry, Pawlie). I think they’ll win the WC, maybe even the division. But I don’t know how they’re doing it. Werth and Utley are having down years, Rollins is hitting like .230 and whatever you want to believe about Lidge he is a farce. And yet I still think they make the playoffs easy. So what the fuck am I even talking about?
Lilly should be tough tonight—-he’s been lights out at Chavez Latrine. I don’t know how we are going to do this but we’re going to win 7-1 with Cain dominating and contributions from Rowand and Renteria. I don’t know why this is going to unfold this way I just know that’s what’s going to happen……
How about a new game thread with only game comments? Might be interesting.
and I don’t think Pawlie’s POTD was a dig at Snarkk in the slightest. For one thing, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Pawlie post that had a dig in it, subtle or otherwise…..
I don’t get as romantic about it and shit as Pawlie, but I said the same thing earlier in the day. There aren’t any mlb players who go 0-400 on the year. Rowand and Renteria could easily come up huge tonight. Either that, or they will continue to smoke massive pole. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out………
I didn’t say it was an intentional dig. Just that what he says is totally the anti-Snarkk take.
BTW, who was that “Berger” fuck you let in last night? I’ve seen the name before, can’t remember where. Funny idiot, though: thought I was a Nate Davis guy.
Total fabrication on your part, as usual. And dragging Pawlie and BF into it…
With 2 homers Thome passes. McGwire. Always liked Thome. Humble guy. Plays the game right.
Ever see pictures of him in 1992?
the thread is fine, lots of baseball talk with some usual peripheral stuff thrown in. You and Snarkk could always just try something unique and DROP IT. I’m sure the panties will start flying back and forth around the 4th inning on some new topic……..
panties? someone say panties? feitishists?
When a guy insists that a player with a .294 OBP is a better bet to get on than a .404, it’s tough to let the dumb cocksucker off the hook. But I’ll drop it.
appreciated. And I agreed with you at the time that went down but I miraculously moved on from in a few minutes later….
You’ve known to carry on for awhile yourself, Craig. Don’t get too carried away with the holier than thou act.
Radnich is pure crap. His schtick is crap. His personal values are crap. Only Radnich would ask a caller what kind of car he’s driving. And only Radnich obsesses over millionaire athletes’ wives and their looks.
Oh great, Scully again. Looks like he left his face in the toaster oven too long.
Radnich- the epitome of a media jock-sniffer.
I have no clue why I did this but I just bet on the giants -1.5 runs at +180. I fucking never do shit like that especially when it looks like this is going to be a 2-1 game or so. But I had a vision, a dream, 7-1 giants was the score. It’s as clear as a double rainbow. Make it so………
Who can forget your famous 6-1 call of 2007?
I do remember that one. It probably got him that bat.
What did Posey FU to let in that one run?…
If it’s a choice between Papa and Radnich, it’s Gary 24/7.
At least Radnich recognizes that these are games.
Is Chronicle Live still on the air? I haven’t seen an episode in a long time.
They only show it on tape delay.
Here we go!!!!
Are you kidding me!
Two more words: MUST WIN.
Not even one thank you comes my way for ragging on Rowand all day long in hopes of putting the reverse jinx on him and he leads off with a double. You’re a bunch of ungrateful fucks.
I think Huff was wincing as he jogged to first.
Must get run here.
Fruckie does that bunting on his own. Bad idea this early. Try to drive him in.
Couldn’t agree more!
Atza no good…
Fuck Jesus!
fucking pathetic swing from Posey.
Oooooohhhhhhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Now THAT was Posey’s fault. Why the fuck are you bunting in th 1st?
A pretty sad indictment of the offense I suppose.
They were just convicted.
wow. no words to describe those last two at bats………
Christ on a biscuit. This team can be so fucking infuriating.
Wow………………………………………… Nice job Guillen. Leave him th fuck in LA
lets keep the dodgers off the base path for a change
Cain will throw 12 pitches but give up 2. Fucking Lilly throws 22 and gives up squadoosh.
Hey, Loo. you know any Dean Martin tunes? I love me some Dino.
That’s Amore is always a crowd pleaser.
Nevermind Dean, remember the Golddiggers?
In high school I was — believe it — in the seminary [explains a lot] and this one guy, not surprisingly a little on the effeminate side, HAD A SISTER on the Golddiggers! Any of us who were straight went crazy over her! Dirty thoughts! (Of course, we had to go to Confession immediately.) (I better go on Facebook to see if she weighs 300 pounds now.)
At least they didn’t waste a leadoff strikeout.
And that bunt by Franchez just further goes to prove that he’s one big pussy.
Edgar channels Chuck Hiller…
wow. I guess they can’t blame that on Renteria’s range…….. Cain’s fine.
Another wasted inning.Like the Eagles song Wasted times! Posey was totally off balance on his swing ,no way to drive a ball like that.
It looked like a deliberate sac bunt to me. That comes from the skip, no?
It would go against everything Bochy believes in. K and K have said before that Fruckie does that on his own. But if it swizzles your swazzle, blame Bochy.
if that’s what ownage looks like then I am less impressed with those 15-20 at bats stats than i was an hour ago…….
Edgar no longer had a play anyway .
I could be wrong, of course.
Ain’t that a kick in the head
I would have liked a hit and run with Renteria there. If successful, you can at least make them think a little with Cain. If not … so what?
I tried justin.tv, atdhe.net, and veetle for stream. Any thing else?
Tomorrow morning’s paper…
even if I sleep till noon