Nate’s on the Block Pittsburgh Time and Unfortunately the Sharks Won

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 26, 2011

According to a tweeter, the Giants are making it known that Nate is on the block. Tough to decide if he’d bring any value at all. He’s more productive than Bowker and Franny. Freddy put up much better numbers than Nate did last year, but Freddy was starting full time. We got very little for those 3 guys. Cash? Something like that. With Ishikawa slipping through waivers untouched, a guy who’s basically the same as Nate (can hit a little with great defense) I really have no idea what we could get from Nate. Probably more cash, that’s about it…….

I hate hockey. The year they sat out was the greatest year of my life. I love pretty much all sports, I just never got into hockey. Bummed they won last night, it means my facebook news page will remain cluttered up with Sharks shit…..

I am intrigued by the Pirates this year. Not only do they have a ton of stud position players who are fast and who have power but they’ve got a closer who throws harder than Wilson–with location. The reason they aren’t winning their division right now is easy to pinpoint: Kevin Correia is their ace. We should beat them but man, if that team ever gets any starting pitching, watch out……..

The Flap Fantasy League Standings (Denny makes a move, Kevin free falls, FH continues to do her best impersonation of Jim Marshall and Ed almost unbelievably drops another point (the lowest point total any team can have is 14)…..

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Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:01 am

Maybe it’s just my skewed sense of humor, but Edd’s post of the day had me LQTM all day yesterday. “Orbo loves all things Molina”— that’s gold, baby….
- dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:12 pm
  
  Funny. It inspired me to pick up Jose Molina in FL. I was away from internet connection and missed out on Heyward’s explosion against SF. Damnit! Runs scored is my biggest deficit.
willied said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:01 am

flav, Pirates have been awful for quite a while…they can’t score enough to offset pitching woes. The McDonald guy they start tomorrow is the guy the Dodgers dumped, right?
Their division has a lot of warm weather hitters parks, so I would think your philosophy has to be either good pitching or solid bash. Giants pitching last season shut down the bash teams like Texas and Philly, which had to send a message to others you can win like that, home or away. Pirates philosophy seems to be take the money and run.
Giant Head said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:11 am

Sharks bashing..sacrilege…the Giants World Series victory changed the axis of the planet…this will be the year of we at least get to the Stanley Cup! Mark that down…
Giant Head said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:14 am

Sharks bashing?..sacrilege…the Giants World Series victory changed the axis of the planet…this will be the year we at least get to the Stanley Cup! Mark that down…

Flav, have you never been to a playoff hockey game, especially in San Jose? There is nothing quite like it…intense!

I am looking for a Capitals-Sharks Stanley Cup…now I know shit about hockey, but put it this way, I have my playoff beard going!

Now that we are back back from our Outer Banks vacation and dodging tornados, I am ready to make my fantasy run….
- Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:42 am
  
  If I had a buck for every time someone said “if you go to a hockey game live you’d be hooked” I’d have, you know, a couple hundred bucks. Not interested.
Kevin said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:29 am

Alright I went out and tweaked my line up. lets see what happens with that free falling crap!! Go Matt.
TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 9:00 am

Sharks bashing..sacrilege…the Giants World Series victory…
nevermind
Kevin said, on April 26, 2011 at 9:59 am

I know nothing about Hockey or Soccer. I would have to watch it with someone who really knows the games. Also with hockey there appears to be so many cheap shots and the league doesn’t do a whole lot about it. they need to clean that shit up. I mean putting a guy in a coma is just not good.
dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:09 am

Hockey is great live. On TV. Not so much. Too bad for Schierholtz. I think he’s got more value than Ishikawa and Lewis but not much. He’s a great fit for SF but obviously caught up in the numbers. Especially if Belt goes to the OF when he returns. Announcing this as they pull into Pitt is a bit ominous. Maybe he’s staying.
snarkk said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:21 am

What is it with the Pirates and trades with the Giants?
Are they the only team that gives Sabes their phone #?…
TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:26 am

I’ve been to one hockey game in my life. I can’t remember who was playing but I’m pretty sure it was before the Sharks arrived. Some kind of exhibition game. I sat around for about 45 minutes watching men skate back and forth, I got up to get a beer and a dog. While in line, I heard a roar from the crowd. I got back to my seat and my friend told me so-and-so scored. I then spent the rest of the game watching men skate back and forth.
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:37 am

Well, Nate can’t hit, a a major problem for a corner outfielder…
Pittsburgh has no interest in competing. They are one of the teams pocketing revenue money- all the while being one of baseball’s most profitable teams ( 30 million profit in 2007 and 2008 as per SI) even as they’ve had 18 consecutive losing seasons..
They’ve never figgered out how to make the puck more visible for TV. That’s why hockey looks like a bunch of morons wandering aimlessly, intent on mayhem. Oh, That’s the idea? Sorry..
Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:44 am

I don’t care about the Pirates and how they’re run, I just like some of their young position players— Tabata, McCutchen…watch those guys this week— very exciting players….
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:52 am

I know all about them, Flavoro. Good chance I told you guys about them in the first place…
- Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:28 am
  
  you tell us about Giants prospects, I don’t recall you ever referencing anyone from another team. I keep track of all the players on all the teams….
ewisco said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:54 am

this pitcher that they’re running out tonight might be better than expected.

As for hockey, I actually enjoy it both live (though don’t get to many) and on tv (now that it’s on HD). One way to clean up the brutality is to impose the following: you knock someone out of the game, you can’t come back until they do. Very simple. guy out two months with a concussion, you’re out two months without pay. Career ending? too damn bad for you.

Could work for football too.
- Kevin said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:32 am
  
  Yeah, that would work.
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:55 am

Default reaction in 2008:
“Pablo who?”
- xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:34 am
  
  No. We all watched the video of him catching in an and said wow he’s pretty fat but man can he hit. True. You posted the vid
  - xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:35 am
    
    In sj
dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:57 am

Lived in Long Beach at one time and often got free tickets to the minor league hockey team there. If the home team scored 3 times in the third period there were free unlimited wings at Hooters. Normally I would never go to a place that would exploit women in such a way but I was willing to compromise for free food. I lived in Germany for a while after Long Beach and in a strange twist ran into a bunch of the minor league players from Long Beach on loan to a club there.
snarkk said, on April 26, 2011 at 10:59 am

I noted before that Deadspin published the Pirates financials a while back, along with the Marlins and some other clubs. Under McClatchy they finally figured out that the town is Steelers first forever, Penguies a pretty slack second, and Pirates are out there becalmed in the horse latitudes of fan attention. They don’t need to compete for the ownership to make piles of dough. So now they’re not even going after FAs. Just go with the draft every year, see what happens. If a couple of blue chippers show up, great, a few more butts in the seats is gravy…
snarkk said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:09 am

Hockey is OK, I suppose. If you gave me a free ticket to a Sharks game, I’d go. Same deal with the Warriors? You’d have to give me the free ticket AND pay me to go. I never understood the hockey fighting. On every play in football, guys are banging, punching, hitting, yelling at/insulting each other. But rarely any fights. Hockey? A guy gets poke checked or slammed into the side a little wrong, and it’s on, or the goon comes in and takes care of business. Then, when a guy gets cold cocked from behind with a stick, the perp gets 5 games suspension or something similarly lame, while the victim is out for the year. If that happens on the street, you’re in prison for a decade. Kinda stupid, if you ask me…
TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:14 am

I’ll have to say, though, SLAP SHOT is a very funny movie
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 11:17 am

Like most, I imagine, I never quit following my childhood team. 57 years now since my first game at Forbes Field. Tough to get excited about players that you know won’t be around long. Face of the franchise? If there was a million dollar bill it would the face on it…
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 12:13 pm

One of my favorite Pirates ever was stud PH Jerry Lynch…
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 12:16 pm

And there is nothing like playoff hockey between hated rivals. It was especially great in the old format when they would play 4 games in 5 nights. Was at MSG in December ’79 when the Bruins climbed over the boards to fight the fans. Lucky for them I was too high up to get involved. I would’ve bit off Milbury’s left arm.
- Unca Chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 1:23 pm
  
  Well, maybe his left foot . . .
mrmrbill said, on April 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm

… and your LU for tonight:
CF Rowand
2B Sanchez
1B Huff
C Posey
3B Sandoval
LF Burrell
RF Ross
SS Tejada
P Cain
Unca Chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 1:23 pm

Who the hell has Jared Weaver in the FL???

6-0 by April 25th? Crazy . . .
Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm

I guess Ishikawa is not taking the demotion well. 59 ab’s, 22 k’s. Disappointing start for Gillaspie , hitting just .243.
Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 1:50 pm

I’ll watch some Sharks but only the playoff games.

The worst for me is Soccer. Stopped into Ricky’s in San Leandro last Weds to catch the G’s game and the place was going nuts for a soccer match between Barcelona and Real Madrid. They had it on the big screen and with the A’s also playing, the G’s were on a couple of tiny screens in the back.
- TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 2:30 pm
  
  That’s another thing about soccer (or futbol) that confuses me. What’s Real Madrid? Is there a Fake Madrid?
  - blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    
    Ted, “Real” is Spanish for Royal.
- snarkk said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:32 pm
  
  So FC Barcelona = fuckin cocksuckers (from) Barcelona?…
macdog said, on April 26, 2011 at 2:12 pm

Casual hockey fan, root for the Devils. I agree with Dirt, the game is so much better in person, the closer the better. And playoff hockey is ferocious. It’s funny, I don’t know if you see this much out west, but the diehard fans here in the east coast are adamant that no sport is the equal of hockey.

It’s been sad to see the Pirates’ deterioration. They’re one of the great historic franchises and were such a powerhouse in the 70s. It seems like a longshot, but maybe someday they’ll get their act together and be a team that matters again in that city and MLB in general.
Kevin said, on April 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm

Tizzle has Jered Weaver
mrmrbill said, on April 26, 2011 at 2:51 pm

per SFGiants tweet, AS ballots released: C Posey, 1B Belt, 2B Sanchez, 3B Sandoval, SS Tejada, OF Burrell, OF Huff, OF Torres. No Ross or Rowand
Nipper said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:04 pm

I just don’t like Hockey. In person I’ve seen it a few times. On TV forget it. Of course I’m not too crazy about basketball either. The coaches intrude too much in basketball. They should do something about the final two minutes. Both sports insist their coaches must have business suits. Pure BS.
- mrmrbill said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:06 pm
  
  re: business suits … I’m inclined to think that dressed up in nanny costumes or as parole officers would be more appropriate for those sports.
  - dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    
    I have always liked the old pictures where the MLB manager is wearing a suit and wouldn’t mind seeing a return to it. Definately wouldn’t want to see hoodies and the full uniform doesn’t make sense to me as it is.
  - mrmrbill said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    
    Dirt, for the nannies and parole officers, I was referring primarily to NBA coaches. And they should wear hats with cop car “antlers”, flashing red and blue lights, just so the players feel comfortably at home.
    
    For MLB, I like the “older veteran ex-player full uni” look. Kinda like Yoda with stirrups. 🙂
Kevin said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:27 pm

For some reason I can see Singletary in full dress football uniform with pads!!
Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 3:57 pm

I’ll be interested to see how Pedro Alvarez does this yr. A college standout, he was drafted ahead of Posey, but got a late start due to contractual problems. 16 hrs in 95 games last yr not too shabby.
blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:04 pm

So far he blows on my FL team RT . . . However, Flav says I should practice patience . . . I’m trying to do that, plus say a dozen padre domini’s every time he comes to bat 🙂
- Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm
  
  He’s not the only one off to a slow start this yr. What’s up with Hanley Ramirez?
  - blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    
    Yeah, HanRam is definitely not himself (I also think he is injured).
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:23 pm

The Flap’s version of “Rain Delay Theatre” is really lacking…
What’s cooking at The Splash?
- TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:46 pm
  
  Overture, curtains, lights,
  This is it, the night of nights
  No more rehearsing and nursing a part
  We know every part by heart
  Overture, curtains, lights
  This is it, you’ll hit the heights
  And oh what heights we’ll hit
  On with the show this is it
  
  Tonight what heights we’ll hit
  On with the show this is it
ewisco said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:29 pm

even less.

I think baseball managers look stupid in uniforms. back to the hat and tie I say.
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:33 pm

First pitch at 7:50 local.
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:40 pm

You’re saying that Hurdle and Bochy don’t cut dashing figures out there? Clint seemed to do OK..
- mrmrbill said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:59 pm
  
  Bochy doesn’t seem like he’d be comfortable in anything other than a uni … probably has sex in it. A suit? No way.
snarkk said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:46 pm

Putting a straw hat ala Connie Mack atop Bochy’s dome would take a lot of straw away from horses. BTW, Connie Mack managed a mind-boggling 7755 games (Larussa a distant 2nd nearing 4800)…
- snarkk said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:02 pm
  
  My bad. Larussa is now well over 4900 games managed. As far as games managed while knowing your roster had juicers and then later feigning total ignorance of it, that info is not available…
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 4:51 pm

Let’s hope this roadie kick starts the offense. 11th in OPS and 13th in runs is bad even by our standards.
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:23 pm

First Tejada gets robbed then Cain doesn’t get the called third which is promptly followed by a blast.
Somebody up there don’t like us…
- stixwiz said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:50 pm
  
  Between excellent plays by the other guys and umpire’s calls, the Giants have been seeing a lot of that sorta thing lately. Makes you wonder, but likely as not it will even out over the course of the season.
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:31 pm

From certain angles, Aubrey Huff is a dead ringer for Opie Taylor (Ron Howard)
Big Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm

Cain looks strong. Huff doesn’t look like opie Taylor.
TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:47 pm

Ginger humor. Actually Huff looks like that other actor, Michael Rooker
- Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:53 pm
  
  Or Calvin Borel with teeth.
Big Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 5:49 pm

That was a good trivia question- I got 2 don’t remember the torres inside job. Last night, on the pirates beoadcast, the trivia question was “name the pirates all time hr leader”
- DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:00 pm
  
  Hmmmmm…….Freddie Patek?
  - unca chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    
    Rennie Stennet?
  - Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:10 pm
    
    Gene Clines was right up there
Big Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:00 pm

I’m at a bar so I can’t rewind it, but the cam just panned to mcutchen and he held his glove up to his face and checked his breath. Was that for real?
- DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:04 pm
  
  What are you drinkin?
  - Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:28 pm
    
    Pliney the Elder– just drove home though
- TedSpe said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:05 pm
  
  funny
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Getting handcuffed by an excellent Braves staff is one thing. Getting goose egged by Charlie Morton is no laughing matter.
- DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:11 pm
  
  Just cashed my $200 win bet on Oliver Onion in the Pierogie race. Did you have him, Dennis? He was 2-5.
unca chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:09 pm

Yeah, this is getting a little fucked up.

Matty needs a couple at least.

Vogelsong gets the start.
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:40 pm

Vogelsong has always been scheduled for Thursday
- DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:49 pm
  
  Is the rotation set for NY next week?
Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:40 pm

I love Pat Burrell. Taking walks is such an important part of the game and he’s the only guy on the team who will do it regularly. Plus, when he’s not walking he’s banging out fat bombs……
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:42 pm

The rodeo clown has come outta the gate stumbling. Fuck you, BOZO!
stixwiz said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:47 pm

Tejada snakebit tonight. Giants are having one of those Aprils. Call him Miggie Mendoza now. He just dropped before the line.
- DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:55 pm
  
  Looking forward to calling him “ex-Giant”…
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:51 pm

Fontenot sure has a shiny helmet.
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Giants now 4 for 31 PHing this yr. Ishi, where art thou?
twinfan said, on April 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm

The myth of the “good AB’- it’s not a good AB when you miss like 4 fastballs in the zone and then strike out…
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Gotta ask Hussein in my corner bodega tomorrow when the Pliney the Elder shipment is expected. 50/50 he stabs me.
- xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:12 pm
  
  Pliny. Or Pliney. I presueme pawlie cited the poet in the first canto of this epic thread?
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:11 pm

Any relation to Mort Meek?
Big Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Loo– you ain’t kiddin’. I’ve got one local supermarket that gets a single case of Pliny every month. My neighborhood bar somehow gets enough to sell it but at $11 a bottle
- unca chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:27 pm
  
  The Wagon Wheel?
  - blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    
    Wow, the Wagon Wheel is still around???? If I recall correctly, it’s either in Mt. View or Palo Alto, right Chuck? Seems like a thousand years ago, but in high school, I bussed tables there and stocked the bar. Also did dishes occasionally when the regular dishwasher was in jail. Ha.
  - unca chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm
    
    I don.t think it’s there, but it was a haunt of my father back in the day, That and Renzo’s . . . Can’t think of the other ones . . .
xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm

Let’s order a case of John Keats claret.
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Ford’s definitely a weapon. Looked like Mookie Wilson going 1st to 3rd.
unca chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:22 pm

DON’T fuck this up guys.
Bozo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:22 pm

Ok I’m getting the Pirates feed. The announcers sound like a couple of guys, drunk and calling the game while sitting on the crapper. Man, it sure took a good cook to make that stink taste good.
Del Mar Dennis said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:22 pm

Huff needs to don the thong again. Shit kicker.
unca chuck said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:26 pm

That how you do it Huff.

Great AB by Buster
xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:28 pm

Baseball hurts. I understand why fans find fantasy leagues fun. If you want to plug into the day to day infor on players beyond your favorite team, or its division, fantasy leagues plugs you in. If you want to plug into, if only in part, every game played every day, fantasy baseball plugs you in. But fantasy players are fungible. They aren’t real; they don’t fail the same way real players fail. They don’t hurt. Somewhere tonight, fantasy league people are trading messages about Tejada. (Hey, dickhead, bet you’re glad you took my trade for TejNADA last week!) But in reality there’s nothing painless about Tejada’s struggle. I want him to succeed for the Giants sake, and for his own. Nothing but hurt, so far.
- Bozo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:36 pm
  
  The only thing that bugs me about FL is when someone starts rooting for a player going up against the Giants. I have Morton as a pitcher and I’m happy as hell he’s not getting a win tonight (even though I need Wins). Now I just want the Giants to put these guys away.
- Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm
  
  actually you are wrong on this. I play in some high stakes leagues. I die hard and celebrate wildly based off of some of my players performances……
macdog said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:31 pm

Wow. With all due respect to Rowand, I don’t think he gets to that one.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:55 pm
  
  “All due respect” in The Sopranos is a prelude to someone getting whacked, or at least insulted.
blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:40 pm

Question for Mr. Fantasy League (Flav) . . . Have you ever seen anyone only have 16 points? Ed is down another 7 tonight thus far . . . evening is still young though. He may hit rock bottom at 14.

Sigh.
- dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:53 pm
  
  How do you see real time #s for FL? I thought it just updated in the AM. Or are you just doing the math?
  - Bozo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm
    
    Stattracker
  - blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    
    Dirt, as Bozo indicated -StatTracker . . . Go to your Team page, then click on StatTracker.
- Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:40 pm
  
  no. It’s almost statistically impossible……..
Big Flavor said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:43 pm

Anyone else done with kruk’s new “spit on em” thing? Tejada didn’t spit on that he waived right through it like a clueless rookie pussy
PawlieKokonuts said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:50 pm

need to get my torture-proof prayer beads out

it rained today like you never saw; with hail — fortunately no dents on the car
PawlieKokonuts said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:54 pm

N-a-a-a-a-a-a-t-e!
xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Who said Ford wouldn’t make a difference?
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:55 pm

Ford’s definitely a weapon. Looked like Mookie Wilson going 1st to 3rd.
- xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:58 pm
  
  I greatly appreciated that comment the first time you posted it, DJL.
dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Damn Ford. Come on Sanchez!
Rough Trade said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:56 pm

Say hey!
xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:57 pm

I don’t think those running plays really show up in the STATs. Know what I mean?
- dirtnrocksnreno said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:50 pm
  
  Whole play was a non-stat. Awesome
DJLoo said, on April 26, 2011 at 7:57 pm

Did he do that on his own?
- xootsuit said, on April 26, 2011 at 8:00 pm
  
  No. I saw Flannery say “go go go” soon after Ford slid in safe at home.