A Sign of Good Things to Come: Another Walk Off Win
Earlier in the year it seemed we’d win games like last night at least once or twice a week. Maybe that’s a sign of something to come. We’ve won 3 in a row and are playing loose, crisp, winning baseball right now. I understand the odds against us but has anyone checked Atlanta’s schedule? Yes, they now get 3 against the Mets at home. But after that they go on the road for 6 and then finish at home against Philly. Imagine if the Giants keep winning and they are only a couple game out with the last home stand to play. How infuriating will it be to watch Country Bumkin Manuel rest half his guys on that last series. But you know what? In that situation, I don’t think he would. Philly is desperate to get a piece of us and show the East Coast that last year was a fluke. I think they would try to eliminate the Braves to get another shot at us in the playoffs. So if we keep winning and the Braves keep stumbling and my theory plays out in the final home stand of the season……
“so, you’re tellin’ me there’s a chance?”
Absolutely.
Today is fairly critical, they all are from here on out. Look, Colorado is completely *sweepable*. They’re already looking at Rosario at catcher for the rest of the year, their pitching sucks and Car-Go and Tu-Lo couldn’t be more focused on individual stats right now. If we head in there with a purpose and a plan we could easily sweep them…..
I’m just sayin’……
And finally, I’d like to point out that since I made the “Sun Dressed Chick” the official Flap Mascot, we have won three games in a row…..
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maybe we should have kept the bikini babe?
I can’t believe I logged off at the end of 11 (well, I guess I can, I was pretty tired). 12 and 2 baby, that’s all we’re asking. And, “Nothing is over until we decide it is!” Country Bumkin Manuel, he’s a Dickhead! Rollins (not Sonny), Dick! Lee, Dick! Niedermeyer…
props to the east coast guys who stayed til the end…giants put me to sleep after deRosa first crack at hero didn’t work out. But Nip is right, w is a w.
I thought about this one when it happened: Cain walked Darnell, and then Lopez came in to face Blanks, who hit the ball Pablo turned into a force out. Then came the doubles by Cunningham off Lopez and the rbi one by bartlett off Mota. So why is Cain charged with the first run, even tho he never faced the guy who actually scored it, which was blanks? Both guys lopez faced scored, tho he is only charged with one of them.
Craig, as I said at the flap bash, you can leave up the pix of mrs. mdr forever.
Check out #15 starting at 0:54 into this video of the walkoff.
Is he happy to win or happy it’s over so he can head out to a late dinner with Boras?…
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_09_13_sdnmlb_sfnmlb_1&mode=video
As I speculated when some were asking why the fuck they kept DeRosa around, Bochy undoubtedly wanted him for his experience down the stretch. It may or not be too late, but he’s certainly bearing that out. While he isnt driving the ball in the sense of HR power, he’s hitting the ball HARD. He might be the September MVP so far. I have zero doubt that if he’d been DFAed, another contender would have pioked him up
Well, he did seem to peek through the row of players to see what had happened. But yeah, dude isn’t really into this……
It’s a normal reaction when a loud noise wakes you up
Walk-off indifference?
The pogoing in the middle of the field at the end of every walk off ranks right after the skyward gesture as a tiresome, rote exercise. Good for Beltran.
Good for Beltran being an emotionless tool…. Some people don’t follow baseball just to look at stats.
I bow to your humanity.
One very little thing I did notice: Beltran went back to grab a ball he had unsuccessfully tossed into the stands at the end of the inning. Presumably, he again tossed it to the fans.
Right. Why get excited? It’s just a job . . .
You’re right, players in the last several years care a lot more about winning than the old timers did. I look forward to an increasing array of ritualized, public demonstrations of enthusiasm and gratitude. We’ll be able to create a team chemistry stat pretty soon.
Hey, that’s the way it is these days. I don’t think there’s anything contrived about it. Not the way the teams has been struggling in recent memory. All these players see this kind of shit on ESPN and think, hey we should do something too. The bowling pin thing of Prince Fielder sprinigs to mind. That was a little more contrived, but it’s what it was. Kinda funny. Kinda annoying.
The thing about baseball is it’s eons behind the shit that routinely goes on in the NFL.
Criminy. Vernon Davis used to go bat-shit crazy over a 12 yard catch for a 1st down. Every TD was a goddamn 15 yard unsportsmanlike . . .
Willie, even with the force-out, it’s still Cain’s baserunner. You can’t punish a relief pitcher for causing a force-out.
Craig, as I said at the flap bash, you can leave up the pix of mrs. mdr forever.
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Can I get an amen??!!
well, I’m not as enamored with her as the rest of you. Perhaps that because she’s got her clothes on.
I take what I can get
We haven’t won 3 in a row since the Anita Bryant con…. no wait, scratch that. We haven’t won 3 in a row since right after the AS break, Jul 17-19. Guess there’s just enough “magic inside” to keep the optimism going one more time down the stretch.
LU:
Ross CF
Keppinger 2B
Beltran RF
Sandoval 3B
Huff 1B
Belt LF
Sanchez C
Crawford SS
Lincecum P
“Uninterested” or not, stay hot Carlos Beltran!
ok … “uninterested” or not, #2 for the day. Sure, the Hooters thing is unfortunate — but it was Krukow’s fault, I say. That night, Kruk needed company, and Carlos was being a good … wingman!
@ taters for BelTRAN . . . !
2 that is . . .
Hey! For once, a doinker falls for the Giants . . .
Testicle humor
Flemming was talking earlier about how Belt will improve with more ABs, getting to learn the pitchers, etc., then with two strikes, he took a fastball down the tube for strike three. I checked and he will be 24 at the start of next year, Crawford will be 25. That’s not young; another year or two and you are no longer perceived as a true prospect. It may be that both would’ve benefited from staying in the minors this year–the reward of being brought up might make you think your stuff, including flaws that don’t show at AA, are OK–but the way things went for the club that wasn’t in the cards.
Some magic in MDR’s bat these days.
is it just me or are the g’s getting picked off first with amazing regurlarity. maybe time for a little coaching clinic? This is baseball 101. Ford got picked off by a right-hander twice recently.
I saw Roger Bernardina picked off twice in a recent AAA game. Explains why he was there.
Belt’s proven he can hit AAA pitching. Crawford hasn’t even shown that. If Belt can’t hit up here, then what?
Well, he’s just another AAAA guy that couldn’t make the final jump.
Is that going to happen? I don’t think so. I think next year, he’s up to stay.
Duck under the table, Chucks doing some serious thinking…….!
Justin Christian just did his best imitation of Darren Ford doing his Roger Bernardina.
Well it’s a small world. Today my wife and I went out to a store a few towns away. On the way back
we stopped at a roadside fruit stand. The older gentleman selling the fruit saw my Giants
hat and said ‘guess he did it again last night’… Referring to DeRosa’s game winning hit .
I immediately struck up a few comments and then guy said, DeRosa was his nephew
and that Mark was surprised that he didn’t get cut vs Tejeda and Rowand…..
he also confirmed that Mark is a real good selfless Team guy.
small world
GO GIANTS!
Dude! Great to see you here, Dennis. (As you can see, I’m using my web name.)
Flappers, I met Dennis at the Hall of Fame, in Cooperstown in May, the day after Mays’s 80th birthday, when we were paying homage to the 2010 World Series trophy. He introduced me to another great fan. He is a very ardent Giants fan, East Coast Chapter. Welcome!
And, Dennis, remember that hottie Asian chick? Is she on the SF Giants commercials on Comcast?
And, Dennis, remember that hottie Asian chick? Is she on the SF Giants commercials on Comcast?
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I’m afraid not.
I haven’t seen her yet.. but the way she talks with behind the dugout season tickets and flying all over the US, and picture taking with her little stuff bear, she could buy her way on to a commercial.
DeRosa. Yes. Way he’s performed this month i’d at least like to see the Giants offer him a minor league contract. Dude is a pro. Timmy should have 20 wins by now, but 13 is better than 12. His 2.59 ERA is 5th in the league and he is back to second in K’s. Beltran is a tease. At least today’s episode was good for the win.
DeRosa already stated a wek or so ago “I ain’t too proud not to take a minor league contract”
Yes. A wek.
Give me a wek and I can make you a frek
Yesterday as I walked through Clinton Square, downtown Syracuse, farmers’ market day, I met a dude w/ a Giants’ hat, manning a booth. It was almost brownish, like old Padres’ hat. Anyway, a Giants fan. always a treat for me. Of course, I promoted the Flap to him. And told him to keep the faith, baby.
I am lousy at anything beyond basic math, so what will it take for the giants to catch AZ with 13 games to go. yeah, yeah it is probably basic math so let the insults rain down.
2 + 2 = 5
Kev, AZ needs to lose 8 of 13, we need to win 8 of 13, to make things interesting. Our path to the WC is shorter, but it relies on both Atl and StL fucking up + SF staying ‘this week’ hot. Either way ya pick it, it’s not pretty. But possible.
Can we get Gene Mauch to manage the Diamondbacks? (Sorry. That was uncalled for.)
OK, the Flavor of the Big clan’s magic numbers is 11-2. Go Giants.
ok. I’m going to humor myself only with positives (something like what Dave Crockett did at the Alamo).
The Giants have got to be feeling good about themselves and with their ability to finally hit. They know the pitching is not faltering and they know that just a meager offense will get them WINS. But Arizona , to me,
is playing over their heads and combining Giants pressure with constant wins and a little doubt popping in
the D-Backs minds could combine into a more important series on the 23rd….. In any case I can sleep well tonight with one eye on the LA/D-Back game tonight………. could be 7 1/2 games out…..
Wouldn’t that be a true miracle!…..
Didn’t see the game, going to watch it in a few minutes. Did Bochy fuck up again? Seems the more he screws up, the moee they win..
Pawlie– thanks for inviting DennisZ– I already enjoy his posts.
you’re welcome…Dennis sends me 2am notes of exuberant optimism. Plus, he has or had an orange car. Hey, maybe Dennis and I can make a pilgrimage to Brooklyn to see Loo.
Then again.
Yeah it’s great being around Giants fans, which was the case in Cooperstown NY when we saw the trophy.
Emails and Blogs are great; but putting a face on a fan ; well you can’t beat that.
Hey it may sound strange, but when you live in the area of metro NYC, and your not a NY Yankee or NY Mets fan, they look at you as if your a terrorist!……..
There is no question in my mind that the SF Giants players are and were inspired to succeed because of the fan base…. period….
I am also sure that all AL and NL teams are respectful of how with the loss of Posey and Freddie the Giants held the NL West for 2 months and with all the continued DL activity are still barking at the door of making the playoffs…. I’m also sure that those opponents are wondering how they will deal with the Giants next year when the G-Men will be at full throttle again….
maybe his positivity will rub off on “Death Threat Dennis”……
a sweep and 4-in-a-row … haven’t done that since Jun 23-26. Somebody pass the wings, please.
and keep the Flap Mascot running for the next train. We are 4-0 since I installed her as our leader…….
… if she only knew
do I gotta stay up following the LA-AZ game?
no
Where is Denny ? Has he even been around?
Haven’t heard from him here or Chuck’s blog (or JDR’s) since the QB rating bet I offered him. Maybe he’s *retooling* himself to something that resembles the Denny I knew a couple of years ago……
He was on Skeebs Niners blog. He’s laying low?
Hey, Flappers, see the news flash about Neukom? Word is he’s out. Or going to be. Not clear if ousted or not. I for one don’t like it, not at first sniff. After all, we got that trophy via Bow Tie. (And I have a collection of bow ties.) Plus he was cool in person to one of our Flappers, was it Wilco?
Well at my request, he personally affixed the specially made SF-2010/NY1954 WS champion pin to my jacket at the bar in Manhattan on trophy day in January. Loved him!
Huh?
I never criticized or complained about the Giants until I got a computer and discovered a place to do so (The Splash). Even their worst teams, and most obscure, inept players could do no wrong by me. I think Dennis might have fallen into the same trap, only much deeper.
Yeah, who knew when I got my first pc in 1989, that this would be the “vehicle” for booing beyond the confines of Candlestick Park.
Loo— that is a brilliant post on many levels. I’ve struggled with distancing myself from Denny. I love Denny but I can’t support anymore of his bullshit. I miss those days of the horse racing blog……..
Here’s the lousy unbelievable news from CBS Sports online:
Managing partner and CEO Bill Neukom will not return to the Giants next season, the San Jose Mercury News reports.
Neukom, who has overseen the Giants since succeeding Peter Magowan in 2009, was asked to leave by the executive committee after a series of disagreements over the three years Neukom has been in control. Larry Baer, the team’s president and COO, is expected to succeed Neukom, who may yet stay in the organization at a different position, although it won’t be his choice.
Neukom, Microsoft’s former top attorney, angered partners by determining on his own how to spend the additional money that the Giants received due to winning the World Series. Starting last October, Giants merchandise rose $500,000 a month. Couple that with a rabid fan base that has nearly sold out the park, and there’s been plenty of cash as a result. He boosted payroll and added new technology to the baseball department with the money, counter to the executive committee’s wish that the money be used as a rainy-day fund. The committee was so far out of the loop that they would sometimes read of Neukom’s moves in the paper before being apprised.
The passing of Neukom could potentially clear the way for Oakland to finally move to San Jose. Neukom has been staunchly opposed to giving up San Jose as a territorial right, despite the A’s gifting S.F. these rights years back. While S.J. is further away from San Francisco than Oakland, it’s also the home of many technological companies, which could affect the Giants’ sponsorship rates if the A’s moved to San Jose, a question that has been in limbo for years. Commissioner Bud Selig hasn’t offered up any opinion on the matter that has been on his desk for years, but Neukom stepping down could be the jolt needed to re-energize talks. But for now, it’s impossible to know what impact, if any, Neukom’s departure will have on the A’s move to San Jose.
Given that Neukom’s successor worked right under Neukom and is expected to stay in power, the Giants shouldn’t be adversely affected by the transition, although the executive committee’s push to have the cash as a rainy-day fund instead of investing it back to the team in the hopes of keeping up competition as well as raising the qualify of baseball operations’ tools is a potential glimpse into a future San Francisco team run under tighter financial constraints.
For the first time in history, the Giants have a payroll over $100 million, coming in around $120 million for 2011. The $95 million spent in $2010 was also at the time a franchise-high, but the team has sustained $90-million payrolls in the past. While it’s only good business practice to hold some money back for future investments, the Giants were also in a prime position to significantly increase and retain additional business. In addition, infrastructure upgrades in the front office can be appealing to potential employees, raising the talent. Without intimate knowledge of Giants finances, it’s difficult to determine what the correct course of action was. As Neukom is finding out, though, going against the executive committee and making a disagreement out of it is not the way to go.
Horrible. No other words to describe this stupendously idiotic turn of events. Go read Wilco’s post of the *month* and tell me that any Giants fan would want any other owner……..
Seriously. I would love to hear what the “rainy day fund” is for. I thought trying to win the World Series was kinda important.
actually Wiclo doesn’t have a POTM. I was remembering that double-POTD he had. I need to go find that somewhere, that’s gonna weave into tomorrow’s thread…….
Paulinasia’s POTVP has been up longer than Vanguard 1…
LQTM
Wow…who gives a f whether beltran whacks off to a W with his buddies. The guy had 3 hits and a walk yesterday, and today he belts 2 bombs, one into the water. He can do whatever he wants, from knowing dude head nod on down.
James is right: the celebration BS is truly annoying, at all levels. I can’t get over how special teams guys in football jump all over the place after a tackle, when that responsibility is the only reason they are on the team in the first place.
belt got a double? good for him. He is undoubtedly in the mix for an OF spot next year, but no way SF dumps Huff in a contract year,so he is gonna have to fight for a full time spot. I don’t give a rat’s ass what he is projected to do, Belt’s goal should be Huff season of 2010, 26 bombs, including a dozen out of ATT. 2011 is a learning exp.; anyone see the stuff mentioned on baggs blog about bochy getting in his face after he threw his shit on the way back to the dugout after a K?
Belt’s double was a check swing miracle over third base. (See 7:57 PM)
Willie, get real, the emotionless Beltran was busy padding his stats today. I think Timmy may be in cahoots with him – his pitching covered up 2 of the most soulless HRs ever struck by a Son of Satan, I mean Boras. Had Timmy coughed up a few more runs, we would have seen Beltran’s effort for what it truly was. But remember, because it was a day game, many fans will have an experience of the HRs only through a box score. Joyless stuff . . . .
I’m leaning towards you on this one.
really think so james? (Honest, i’m not being sarcastic, I respect your opinion). He doesn’t care about anything except his own numbers, and seeks only to pad them for a contract?
why leave the mets, going nowhere, for a less than hitters park like ATT, which he had just seen before AS?
I think he wanted to win..he didn’t get off to a good start, but he isn’t exactly alone in being a disappointment. And his over all numbers in SF, despite lack of run production, are pretty high.
Smoke and mirrors?
Willie, see above exchange with Decap. I was trying to being ironic. I would love to see a hitter like Beltran anchor the offense next year.
And what does the sentence “added new technology to the baseball department” even mean? How can a baseball team have a “baseball department”?
Ha, I read this a few times before I discovered it’s comedic genius.
there is no way that the season ticket holders stand for this. They are flooding the correct emails addresses right now. No fucking way Neukom is out……..
With very little info available about this, I’m also clinging to the possibility that this is a move by Neukom to power play some dumbfucks off the Giants Committee. Maybe he let all this happen without a fight just to get it to the press— knowing a revolt would follow.
What corporate malarkey. The exec. committee wants us to be the Pittsburgh Pirates? Silly and moronic. Grow up: we won a World Series, kids.
I sent handwritten notes to Neukom and Sabean last November.
Unfortunately, Magnus, it will stand, because season ticket holders are not gonna boycott over this.
It’s an outrage.
Why not? The corporate guys won’t give s shit but if I’m a season ticket holder and I just found out the owner (who just won me a works series) was ousted because he was dumping $ into the team instead of some fucking rainy day laundering fund I wouldnt hesitate to climb the highest peak and scream “suck my mother fucking dick!” as I canceled my season tix and watched next year’s game on my big screen. Too long of a sentence? Fuck grammar I am fuming right now….
but that’s my point: people will NOT cancel
read the announcement on ESPN transactions — all prettified; don’t know what to make of that; have not checked the spin control at Giants site
but I’m not backpedaling from Merc News take: looks like a coup d’etat
BLEEP!
Kershaw got ejected in the 6th, leading 2-0
Baer proves yet again to be the master of office politics. He may not be behind the move but it’s not like he turned the spot down (not that I blame him). Neukom always struck me as a guy fixated on results regardless of salary or stature. He is/was good for the club and this is a shortsighted move in my opinion. As a long time SF Giants fan I am sad and disappointed to hear this news.
Fifty years and one World Series. Many owners, Managing Partners, and CEOs . . .
World Series and COMMON DENOMINATOR?
Bow Tie. ‘Nuff Said.
Righto.
Just saw the news on Neukom…Not good guys, not good at all…As if this fucking year couldn’t get any worse.
at least he’s not on the DL
but the year ain’t over!
This sucks. If the money saving “rainy day assholes” are running the team we are screwed
It would amount to a dodgerfication, a mcourtization, a socalification
No good deed goes unpunished. (re: Neukom news)
Nothing at Giants site, so that means: shit, we weren’t ready to announce this, who let this out? WE NEED DAMAGE CONTROL.
At least the D-Backs finally lost a game. But yeah, this is stunning news. Say it ain’t so, Bow Tie.
and the good news is:
ARIZONA LOSES
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word™
Willie, responded to your earlier post.
OK, cool.. sorry I misread your intention; I agreed with what you said with Decap.
And I also agree that if beltran doesn’t return, SF would be highly served by acquiring someone who can put up .900 OPS to take his place in the middle of the order. I’m convinced one guy like that added to Posey and Sando makes all the difference in the world.
Further, what other teams in the NL would be interested? LA if they lose Ethier I could see, but most other contenders either need pitching much worse or could not afford the guy due to other commitments like brewers cards philly.
I kinda miss the days when the only thing that mattered to me about an “owner” was the commitment to keeping the Giants in SF.
All this spending must stop pronto!
This news on Neukom is total horseshit. I will sleep on it, and have more to say as I gather more info.. But, I’m saying Baer running the operation under the thumb of this veiled 10-member Exec Committee is absolute crap. This is way more important that the odd personnel move in the offseason. It is not good news at all….
horseBLEEP!