“I’m Gonna Git You, Sucka!”
No, no, I’m not talking movies here (and I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing this one), but on the eve of the 2,365th Giants/Dodgers game (1184–1163–17 [wait a minute, 17 ties? How does that happen?])), I’m talking grudges. We all hold grudges against seemingly innocent things. The DMV, for being a little slice of hell on Earth, the one barrista at Starbucks who never makes you double-whip-half-caff-light-mocha-whip-frappochino correctly, or even meter maids and the stupid little carts they drive.
Sport grudges are different though. At least for me. Zumie mentioned yesterday that his anger toward the Los Angels Angels of Angeland had faded to nothing. Me? Nope. 5 outs will always hurt. The hatred still burns like a tiny fire in my heart. I’m happy as a clam in sheepshit that the LAALAAs are potentially going to miss the playoffs despite spending a millions upon millions of dollars on guys like Pujols, Grienke, Haren and the rest of their bloated payroll. In true LA fashion, the players are individually having great years, yet the team is barely over .500 after droppping 4 games to the banjo hitting TBRays. They have Kid Fish as the likely rookie of the year. Trumbo playing out of his mind, and yet, they blow an 8 run lead the other night. Ha ha! I’m loving their slow sink into obscurity as the A’s (the fuckin’ A’s! A team that jettisons star players as fast as they can) blow past them and move into playoff contention.
I missed the Yankee World Series loss in 1962 (well, I was a negligent 1 year old fan back then) , but plenty of people here still hold that torch as a reason to hate the Yankees. I still view the Fred (Crime Dog) McGriff trade from the Pads to the Braves as an abomination, and therefore the Braves and Padres hold a special dark place in my heart for animosity as the Braves played out of their minds and passed the Giants in the last true pennant race back in 1993. St Louis? Yup. On the list. 1987 still hurts because I think it was 1987 when baseball changed the NLCS to best of 7 from best of 5. Of course, the Giants would have won a best of 5. And because of Jose fucking Okendo. The Marlins? Fuck ’em. Both timie we faced them in the playoffs, they won the Word Series. Although it IS hard to stay mad at them as they jettison their lineup evey 3 years, and they now they play in a pastel-colored nightmare of a stadium in downtown Miami. They look like a barnstroming team from the 30s. That’s about it for me baseball-wise. For some reason, I’m not angry about the Pirates, even though they beat the Giants in 1971. And even though I saw them win game 1 on what I thought would be a shoe-in to the World Series, my anger for that series was directed at Dave Kingman for butchering game 2.
So, who holds your ire? Having been only a fan of the SF teams my whole life, I have a pretty small sample size. I respected (and grudgingly liked) the Big Red Machine back in the 70s. I mentioned Pittsburgh, and you had to like the ‘We are family’ run. I have family ties to the Cubs, and I could give a shit about 4/5th of the AL teams (KC? Seattle? ChiSox?). These teams barely register on my radar.
So, who gets your blood pressure rising? What team (or player) causes you to see a little red?
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Cal. I hate Cal. I hate their fans and their football team. I have less hate for their basketball and baseball team…..And I hate USC.
Baseball teams? I hate certain players (like Oquendo) but I don’t really hate any teams except the Dodgers–and even that *hate* has dissipated a bit over the years.
I’m assuming fantasy baseball has contributed to my disinterest in hating baseball teams. I’ve got too many players to hold a grudge. Trumbo, for example, was someone I drafted in the 15th round (out of 30)— everyone was like, “He won’t get regular playing time.” And I said, “Yes he will” and I drafted his ass. He’s cooled considerably since the break but he’s got 29 bombs and will very likely drive in a hundo when all is said and done this year. Me Likey Mark Trumbo…..
Now, don’t get me started on Melky’s dumb ass again…..
Dodgers, because…well, because they’re the Fucking Dodgers. While I grew up elsewhere and did not become a Giant fan until 1977, it did not take me long to cultivate a hatred for the Bums. To this day still I say “Fuck the Dodgers!”
On the football side, it is the Rams…from back when they were the Smell-A Lambs, and all the intense rivalries with the Niners.
I also am not fond of the Yank-Mees. I know a number of guys here admire the franchise for being committed to winning…blah blah blah, but fuck them. To me, they are the Evil Empire (Star Wars). Always out-spending the other teams, but not always showing it on the field. Yeah, there may be a bit of me that is jealous…wishing the Giants were that team with boatloads of cash to throw-around, but they’re not. So, Fuck the Yank-Mees, too!
Where’s Willie D?
Toledo Mudhens always work my nerves
Isn’t that Klinger’s team? He wore a Mud Hens cap in Korea. If you love the smell of garlic and pastrami, you love the Mud Hens
relax, nip.
As a kid, the yanks and celtics won every year, and I was always for whoever was opposition, and I still am. I was really happy when wilt won it with sixers, and the cards dethroned NY. given the choice that came up so often in WS, dodgers or yanks, was tough.
We had neighbors from boston who loved the sox and brought their accents with them. Yanks fans are pretty condescending, but boston fans are the ones i love to hate. I can’t really enjoy b-ball or baseball playoffs until those teams are eliminated. That’s why I haven’t minded last couple years watching Texas shut them up.
And Chuck, you should definitely see the movie, it’s a classic…… goldfish/pimp shoes.
the guy in that movie, who also played “huggie bear” informant on starsky and hutch, had a kid who was a football player as I recall. Dad was antonio fargas (?), and his son I think was a running back for U of Spoiled Children and later on the Raiders. Help me out guys.
Speaking of the oaktown lads, I remember hearing Gruden talk about when he first joined them he was surprised about the level of hatred eah team in that division had for each other–but they all hated the raiders with a passion. And chargers fans (along with KC and broncos I imagine) still do, 60 yrs after they all came into the old AFL.
Yeah, if I had included football, this thread would be 3x longer. The Cowboys go without saying. The Redskins, for the hatchet job the refs did in 1983 and Joe (break a leg) Theisman. The Packers, somewhat, for their beating us in the playoffs year after year, but even then, they sucked for so0 long that it’s harder to get real pissed at them. The Lambs used to be a top 2, but they sucked hard and left so they became a laughingstock. That’s about it.
I like everyone even Ted.
Chuck too
I don’t have hate, dislike, begrudge, or whatever towards any sports team. “Hate the Dodgers” has always been an invented, “fun” kind of “hatred” for any adult person. Now FANS are a different matter altogether. So I’m totally on the opposite side about the A’s/Angels this year- A’s fans are ignorant assholes who would have to toss a coin between going to an A’s world series game or a Dane Cook concert…they don’t deserve a baseball team and as soon as one of them slithers out from the tarp this this Spring, I’ll let it know…( yes, Virginia, I am (mostly) kidding…
interesting. I’ve never known A’s fans to be any different than any other fans. I’ve only been to 3 or 4 A’s games in my life and everyone seemed pleasant enough–unlike Dodger Stadium where you basically can’t where your jersey or you’ll be given brain damage. I wouldn’t ever take my kid to a Dodger game.
Well. I’ve been to lots of A’s games- way back. But I’m mostly referring to the “online fans”. As to Dodger fans- despite the leaving early jokes, they are pretty knowldwgeable types in general. The comment about not wearing a Giants’ jersey to an Dodger game in LA is interesting- because Dodger fans have had the same problem here. I’m surprised there were no deaths after the Joe Morgan home run- it was ugly- from the criminal types on “our side”…
Three-four years ago, when I frequented The Splash, I recall quite a few idiot troll A’s fans. So, Mike’s subsequent comment about “online fans,” I perceive as true.There was one – his name escapes me – that was especially imbecilic. “Fish” something or other. In any event, I do agree with Flavor that when I have attended games in Oakland the fans were great and you didn’t risk life or limb by wearing your Giant gear.
Fans that I dislike (hate isn’t in my vocabulary) – easily the Dodgers. I think they invented the “Wave” and also that beach ball bullshit. When did my dislike start? On a camping trip when I was 7 or 8 years old, we were listening to the Giants-Dodgers baseball game and Marichal hit Roseboro with a bat. At the time, I thought that was how you settled things – Hey, I was 8 years old. Since then, I know better. Umm, I think. 🙂
My dear friend Bea is a rabid A’s fan, and even she has the totally curious affliction I’ve seen with many A’s fans- they are fiercely proud of those decades old titles yet almost completely disinterested in having anything more than a cute “but the boys tried” team now. I’m talking a rabid fan- goes to ST, 3 dozen games a year, etc. Even this year, like all reasonably intelligent A’s fans- she is enjoying their little run but knows it will fail, it’s not in the plan. Billy has reallly snowed these poor people…( BTW, I would truly be delighted if they did make the postseason, if only because Beane and Lew would be apoplectic)…
Dodger fans did not invent the Wave. It started in Spain, at bullfights, was noted at the 1976 Montreal Olympics, and the first baseball instance was in Oakland, according to the Washington Post. Beach balls? Maybe. But the last Giants game I attended at AT&T featured both beach balls bouncing onto the field and fans leaving en masse in the 7th inning, so maybe successful teams eventually reach a sort of douchebag/casual fan critical mass no matter where they’re based.
Hmm. Piazza in 1993, Elster in 2000, Finley in 2004, Kershaw last year, any of the Hairston brothers, Garvey, Cey, Lopes, Scioscia. Pretty much anyone that wears a Dodger uni. Fuck’em. Fuck…them…ALL!
As a lifelong Giants fan, it’s embedded in your DNA to hate the Dodgers. I’m with ChiP when he mentions the Yank-Mees can spend all they want on players; similiar to what the Bums are going to do. Still have to go out and play the game. Repeat after me: FUCK L.A.!!!
All Denver teams make me vomit. They are sooooooooooo band wagonish that it’s sickening. Here is a synopsis of the two main ones:
1. Rockies – I arrived in Denver back in late 1997 and Coors Field would regularly sell out, regardless of the product on the field. Quite frankly, the fans were ignorant back then and nothing much has changed. Chi has been to a couple of games I think and understands that the LODO area, where Coors is located, is a happening place. Consequently, people go to Coors Field, not necessarily to watch the games, but to watch and chat with each other. Interpretation? Guys and gals trying to pick up each other, texting and wanting to be seen. This is how bad this place is insofar as Baseball Intelligent Quotient (BIQ) – for approximately 10 years, the Rockies touted their lone baseball success with a humongous banner/poster on the left field wall, denoting their 1995 Wild Card win. It became a joke and the fans never complained, until the media brought it up.
2. Broncos – This place was insufferable when the Broncos won their 2 Superbowl wins in 1997 and 1998. The three main news networks here, as well as the 2 newspapers (now, there is only one) would frequently start their newscasts or highlight the front page with Bronco news. Forget that the world is going to shit in a hand basket, God forbid that the Bronco addiction isn’t fed. Fast forward today, not too much has changed insofar as fanaticism for the Broncos, despite them being abject failures the last 5 years. After they signed Manning, they were talking Superbowl again. Uhh huh.
Would tend to agree with you about the fans at Coors field. But it is a nice place to take in a game. Reminds me of our yard…only on steroids (same architectural firm…HOK, I believe). I’ve been to one Avalanche game…fans seemed to be pretty knowledgeable about hockey, and I rocked my Sharks gear (even though they were not playing), and the fans were pretty cool. Have never liked the Broncos…back to their orange and blue outlandish unis, and John Elway didn’t help, either.
Yeah, they do know ice hockey, since many of them played the game as kids on rinks and frozen over lakes.
By the by, one comment I forgot about Coors Field. LODO is such a happening place, with bars, restaurants, night clubs, and art galleries, that frequently, people “hookup” at the baseball game, then hit the bars, restaurants and clubs. You literally see young guys and gals flirting/texting back and forth and it actually becomes a frenzy near the end of the game, i.e., the “last chance” so to speak to score a piece of ass . . . 🙂
HOK designed 19 of the current 30 stadiums in baseball. Fuck those guys and their soul-destroying cookie-cutter nostalgia aesthetic. They’re single-handedly responsible for “quirky” shit like that ridiculous lump in center field in Houston, and walls that change direction at impossible angles in some sort of zombie homage to “old-timey” function-over-form necessities. And their last one was Marlins Park, which is basically the world’s largest Chuck E. Cheese franchise.
I lived in Denver for four years (also moved there in 1997, coincidentally, right at the peak of Elway Fever). I never once saw kids playing hockey on a frozen lake. Basically they stole Quebec’s NHL team, got lucky and won a Stanley Cup their first year in town, and suddenly everybody in Denver acted like they had always loved hockey.
blade, i’m in littleton for a couple of days. beer?
Ladera33? Is that ewisco? When I high-light your name, it says ewisco? Sure, but have to take a pass today because my GE dishwasher got recalled and the repairman has a “window” of 1pm to 5pm to visit/repair the damn thing. How about tomorrow? I live in Belmar and there are restaurants up the ying yang outside my front door? Perhaps, PF Changs or Baker Street Bar and Grill? Both are near the corner of Alameda and Wadsworth.
By the by, what’s your first name? 🙂
I”m staying off of Ken Caryl. how about the Baker street? 6ish? first name is Eric but my friends call me wisco.
Now that’s what I’m talking about!
My take on A’s fans is they must all be patients at the local narcolepsy clinic. Or all whacked out of Seconal.
I went to a few games back when the Bash Bros were all the rage, and the A’s were kicking ass. I was at an A’s Boston game, and there must have been about 38,000 folks there. It was the quietest crowd I’d even seen. It was a tight game, the lead changed hands 3 or 4 times, and by the bottom of the 7th the A’s mounted a rally and took the lead. The crowd was barely into it. When dot racing came up at the top of the 8th, the crowd went nuts.
I was dumbfounded. Your team is fighting back against the hated Red Sox, home runs are flying all over the place, and you folks all blow your wad over a fake race on the scoreboard? I felt like I was in the twilight zone. 12,000 at the Stick were louder and more into the game than these 38,000 somnambulists. When you look at the crazed hyper-into-it Raider fans, if baffles me to this day.
Ahhh. Denver. My hate knows no bounds for Denver and their synchophantic relationship with their football team. I was there before the Rockies were born, so all their misdirected passion was focussed on one John Elway. He was a guy I thought was fun to watch in college, but he became Jesus, Mahatma Ghandi, Confucious, and Mick Jagger all rolled up into one smiling horsetoothed oackage. The amount of attention directed toward him was ludicrous in its fervor and depth and repetitiveness.
It was even worse than the recent Peyton Manningpaloozafest.
Elway is misogynist drunk, who hates kids. I was amazed that his Denver acolytes (fans) actually got pissed off at him for dissing Tim Tebow. Too funny . . .
Well, Elway’s daughter is a better QB than Tebow, so at least John was right…
My take on the A’s is really directed at the Angels. That team spent gazillions of dollars and they are sucking ass. The A’s dump everyone worth 2 shits, and they are making a run. It would make me laugh to no end to see Pujols and company on the outside looking in as the AAA’s and Josh Reddick go on.
It’s like the Cleveland Indians in Major League. The owners can’t kill the team despite their best efforts, and they just might reach the playoffs. A’s fans? Duhhhhhhhhhhh. I’ve never seen a more clueless bunch.
Willie D, that was Justin Fargas. Son of Huggy Bear, of Husky and Starch fame.
A kind of fan I saw a lot of when I went to a lot of A’s games was actually one of the greatest fan types. Probably saw so many of them because the attendance was so abysmal- and that’s the scorekeeping Granny… always alone, might have worn one of those belts with all the keys and mini-tools on them, definitely not a social type..I’d guess that her neighbors have no idea where she goes those many nights.. “There goes Gertrude again, WHATEVER it is she does….”
More proof that “he’s breathing, has opposable thumbs, and is left-handed” is part of a powerful resume- Hinshaw waived by Padres, claimed by Cubs… ( yeah, yeah, I know others it may apply to )..
and Brett Tomko III is rumored to be in the pipeline…
I prefer to root (hate is such a strong word, boos are even scarce for me in the game I love) against the dogers and the evil empire. I have rooted for other teams in a distant sort of way. But nothing that lasts long. ie I like Kershaw, just not tonight.
Yeah, Blade, I moved to Colo in 1984. At the height of Elwaymania. I almost went to the infamous snowball game. That would have been a real pisser. 7 hour drive each way to watch Fat Ray miss the FG in the closing seconds as the field gets pelted with snowballs.
Oh, I’m sorry. Calorically challenged Ray . . .
Yep, overweight people are still on the “it’s ok to be bigoted list”. Like druggies and hippies and fringe groups no one cares about. But, really, we all know it is an energy storage problem, not calories. Some athletes consume 7000 calories a day and never even get close to 300 lbs. Maybe they are technology challenged.
Per Wiki, “After the game, referee Jim Tunney explained, “We have no recourse in terms of a foul or to call it on the home team or the fans. There’s nothing in the rule book that allows us to do that.” He ordered an increase in stadium security at halftime, and no further incidents occurred.”
My take is that the NFL and Tunney completely “fumbled” the call, e.g., what if a terrorist had shot Ray? Oh yeah, I forgot . . . “We have no recourse in terms of a foul or to call it on the home team or the fans. There’s nothing in the rule book that allows us to do that.”
Yeah, the problem being, if they called a penalty on the fans, and then Ray makes the kick, there would have been a full-scale riot.
Now that’s just silly, Steve. We all know that unless it was a head shot, the blubber would have saved Fat Ray and he would have made the kick…
“As a lifetime Giants fan,it’s embedded in your DNA to hate the Dodgers.”Well said Demp! And with Chi as well.
I will always despise and Fucking Hate this whole org. From the smog,beachballs,plastic 2 face fans,pretty boy Steve Garvey who never would get his uni dirty and if he did ever slide you still didnt see any dirt cause he slid on his blue stripe only,what a fucking Tool.
Still can’t get over in 68 when Drysdale beaned Dietz with the baseloaded in the 9 th with no outs down 1-0 and the FUCKING Umpire Harry “Fuck you im on the Dodgers payroll” Windledick would not give him 1st base saying he made no effort to get out of the way.Fuck that shit,it would NEVER happen in today’s game.As a kid that was one of the Worst BS calls ever.
I just couldnt believe it at first,then it hit me,that Chump Ump was protecting Drysdale’s consecutive scoreless streak which he set later.Of course after a real long and heated arguement(ejections as well) the Giants never scored.This game has scarred me for life.Fuck LA,Fuck Harry Windlefuck I would like to piss on your grave!
fuckinblown call did as the Giants never scored.
So what do you think of ex-Dodgers who went on to play for for the Giants? And vice-versa.
Really, I do not believe any of you *really* hate a sports team. I understand it in the make believe world that the game is , but none of you are possibly serious in “real life”..right?
I was young and impressionable. The dogers were the enemy. Dusty was the enemy, and the kind of enemy that would take SF money, but he was a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a spy, a doger first and a giant never. When he came to coach I still had that immature memory attached to him. I know now that is not the real Dusty Baker, but my preference that his name never be associated with SF remains.
Him and Wilt the stilt, I always thought he was too impressed with himself.
the Kobe Lakers come a close third.
The same situation played out with Hersheieser and the Giants. I can’t remember who he hit though.
Whoa Kat…don’t sugar coat it there…tell us how you REALLY FEEL. 😉
That was excellent, by the way…
well, I don’t hate whole teams so much as players, Ozzie S, Oquendo, Tony Larussa, Tony always comes off as holier than thou, IMO, Terry Bradshaw, didn’t hate hime as a player, but he is such an ahole Analyst. Well I just changed my mind there is a whole team I hate, The Kobe era Lakers, I hate all of them!!
Well, when yer a kid this shit is much more life-and-death. Preston Riley still sends shudders down my spine. That was one of thw worst days of my life. Beyond the fact that the Niners lost, when we got home from the game, we found out our house got robbed, and then my brother nearly got shot by a cop.
Lakers? Yeah? Hate ’em all. Then and now. The 1970s Dodgers? Hate ’em all. I hated Orel Sax when he came here, but I had to laugh at Reggie Smith when he came here to play 1st base that one year. Every throw he would take when holding a runner on, he’d try to knee the baserunner in the back as he slid to the bag. He instigated a few fights back in the day.
Ahh, the Preston Riley game–same exact fucking day as the Immaculate Reception. Twenty years later, Raiders and Niners have another chance to meet in the SB, and get crushed by the Bills and Cowboys for another shitty Dallas SB.
Not certain this was reported at the Flap, but did anyone else get wind of Melky paying $10k for a fake website to fool MLB? Specifically, this web site touted a fake approved supplement product, that was tainted with PEDs, thus Melky (supposedly) wasn’t aware of it.
Knowing this, I think the guy should be suspended for a year versus 50 games.
I posted a link to it a couple days ago . . .
What do you think about his 50 game suspension now Chuck? Specifically, due to the egregious circumstances coming out, do you think he deserves more than a 50 game suspension?
Melky will become a poster child for the mlb three prong anti-ped attack. 1) don’t use them the punishment is too great. 2) don’t get caught the punishment is too great 3) don’t lie about it the punishment will be unspeakable.
I suppose someone with wisdom should brief us on what legal, ethical or financial costs SFGs may be in for. I would not expect to see Melky playing the post or any other season. IMO
Well, he will never play here again and until/if the cover up issue is resolved, I can’t imagine he’ll play anywhere. I might have missed it, but I haven’t seen him on any of the hate lists. That’s pretty incredible when poor Preston Riley, at age 64, still is. 😉
If I was going to hate a team, it would be the ownership- like of that of the beloved team of my childhood, the Pirates… who *intentionally* fielded a non-competitive team for years- while making a profit by pocketing revenue sharing funds…
Like I said, when yer a kid, it’s much more cut-and dried. You don’t hate the owners. You hate the players. I don’t think there were too many kids wandering around going “God, I hate Tex Schramm!” Plus, in the 60s it was a different time. If you hated the 1965 Dodgers, the 1969 Dodgers weren’t all that different. Same with football. Players weren’t changing teams back then, so you could stick with guys to hate for longer perioods of time. I mean I hated Steve (who’s your Padre) Garvey when he went to SD. I hated LaRussa no matter where he coached, but you had a longer time to build up a hate for guys when they stuck around for 12 years.
There are probably certain years in which I hated a team more than usual, but really, with the Dodges (and Yank-Mees)…it just doesn’t matter. I hate everything about them…from the team, to the uniforms, etc. FUCK FUCK FUCK ‘EM!
I know what you’ve said, Chuck. As a kid, I didn’t hate the owners or players. And as I said, now I would be more inclined to hate some owners- *if* I was going to hate a fucking sports team.
I’m trying to think of a human being I truly hate- an easy one comes to mind- Dick Cheney. IMO one doesn’t really hate a person unless you wouldn’t mind if one of Vick’s dogs ate him. Cheney works. Now before someone gets all het up- this a man who is responsible for thousands of innocent people’s deaths- he didn’t just a hit a HR to beat somebody. Off to St. Helena, see ya.
Blade, what I think and what happens are 2 differnt things. I think it should be doubled for his trying to instigate the fabrication. Problem is, the union would throw a big huge hissy fit over it. I’m sure they’ll cluck-cluck over it, and do nothing.
Thing is, the Feds are sniffing around this, and it’ll be a long drawn out affair if they get involved.
Yup, looks like the FDA is getting involved. Jeff Novitski, their crime investigator is greasing up in the pen.
http://tinyurl.com/dyapky3
Melky’s PED use is properly not a criminal issue- but the attempted cover-up *is* a crime. MLB should not be involved in the latter until/if it’s resolved by criminal authorities.
Sham, I had no idea those plays occurred on the same day. What a fuckaroll . . .
The one time I wanted a “time out” on the Hippocratic oath was when Cheney got his new heart.
Never realized Dick Cheney had a.heart.I’m sure that Attorney Harry W from Texas feels that way after Cheney shot him on their hunting trip.
Yup. he got shot in the fracas . . .
Gents, can we leave politics out of today’s topic and focus on our hatred of the fucking Dodgers?
No.
Good luck with that, Demp.
Okay unca_chuck, then maybe you’ll like this: USA Today confirms that Jeff Kent will be a contestant on “Survivor”, starting Sept. 19.
Kent must make you terribly conflicted. It’s hard to imagine a Giants’ fan hating him.
He still sporting his porn star mustache?
The whole gang of 4 was pretty loathsome: Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rove and Rumsfeld. Architects of the debacle.
Don’t forget Cheney’s fall guy, I. Lewis Libby Jr.
Boss Cheney, in the role of puppeteer, pulling the strings in a covert public relations campaign to defend the administration’s case for war in Iraq and discredit a critic (Wilson). All of them are scum of the Earth.
Dodgers are doing us all a favor in contending along with the Giants and Arizona. It gets you guys riled up and the juices flowing. It’s always been this way since they came west with the Giants. When one or the other falls out of contention it hurts the whole division. We need them.
Bleep LA …Nip,along with your DH!
Giants need it.
“The Dodgers were created by Satan.”Most baseball fans know that.Thet are a group of evil men with evil intentions.They wear royal blue and play before fans who do not care anything about baseball.”
LA is a car-dependent,celebrity-obsessed,smoggy,crime-ridden mess.It’s not exactly my first vacation destination!!! Fuck LA and all their phony fans.
I hate politics. Please stick with sports.
Too bad. As a rule, those objecting to politics are reallly objecting to the brand of politics- you people have Denny.
My ride is finally here. I hate late people…
BEAT LA! BEAT LA! BEAT LA!
Orange and Black Forever – GO GIANTS!
Something we can all agree with. 🙂
Blade, i’m at ken caryl and 470. baker st? 6ish? first name is Eric, my friends call me wisco. i’m off to the texas roadhouse tonight. some SMOKING bartenders! doubt i’ll see the g’s.
Eric, give me a shout at blade3colorado@yahoo.com . . . Right now, 6pm tomorrow sounds good at Baker St. See you there . . . Steve
I was brought up to say “black and orange”. Does it matter?
I was born a proor black child . . .
I was born in the wagon of a travelin’ show…
I was born in a crossfire hurricane . . .
I was born in the back of a Geryhound bus, rolling down highway 41 . . .
Pagan CF
Scutaro 2B
Sandoval 3B
Posey C
Pence RF
Arias SS
Belt 1B
Blanco LF
Bumgarner LHP
courtesy of pavolovic
How’s his dog doing?
Salivating
So here’s my question, and maybe I’m missing something here, but why ISN’T Melky’s case a potential criminal case? I mean, you can’t take synthetic testosterone or adderall or provigil or any of that shit without a prescription. Did he have one? I would think the FEDs, so bored with their regular work, would be interested in following up with the Melkster to see if all his paperwork was in order and that if he did have a prescription it was from a legit doctor.
No? Yes?
I never really got that as well. When I lived in San Carlos, the chick that lived next door got busted for selling steroids at the gym down on industrial. I get that you can’t sell that shit, but taking them w/o a legit perscription is OK? I mean, the shit (Andro) McGwire was taking was nominally legal as it was OTC, but the heavy-duty shit like HGH and anabolics, isn’t that illegal? What did Jose Guillen get busted for? Acquiring it?
It’s illegal to buy, but not to use?
it’s not only illegal to use but if you get pulled over and you have a drug that requires a prescription, and you can’t produce a bottle with your name on it or a prescription, you’re busted.
August 19th, 2012 – On this date in history, Ed – our British mate across the pond – unequivocally took over 2nd place in the Flap League. Berra’s Bombers goal is to take over Fantasy League baseball the way the Beatles conquered Rock & Roll in the United States.
that’s outstanding. Edd’s goal was to finish top 6 so he is definitely beating that goal. He’s learned the game and playing well…….
Agree. It should also be noted that the bloke has to wake up or stay up at insane hours to ensure he is on top of waiver wire, trade, and roster news info. Big props to him! 🙂
Gary Brown in LF again tonight for Richmond— count me *out* on that idea. Yeah, he’s fast and can steal bases but you have to get on first base in order to do that. His BB% is low (6.4%) and I just don’t think he’s ready to hit mlb pitching successfully enough at this point in his career to get on base enough. Honestly, I’d rather see Scutaro out there…….
He also is striking out too much . . . that would be exponentially increased jumping two leagues from AA.
BF is right on!
So when Twin’s not here I’m your sloppy seconds? Fuck that! I’m right on 24/7 baby, don’t forget it!!!!!!!!!
Just kiddin’ Nip. Over the years I’ve grown to enjoy your simple, quick, observations…….
My current list of MLB teams that I have less than positive feelings about:
1. Dodgers
2. Yankees
3. Cardinals
4. Phillies
5. Red Sox
6. Marlins
But with none of them is the negative feeling as intense as it would have been in the past. 2010 really did change all that for me.
Regarding the Dodgers, when Torre left, that was about the last Dodger that I didn’t like. I can’t think of a current Dodger that I have much of a negative feeling about.
But then again, there is new history to be written, starting tonight. Both teams battling for the division title. Opportunities for new grudges to be born this week.
But as far as the Dodgers overall, they haven’t even BEEN to a World Series since RONALD REAGAN was president.
At some point, they are going to get back to a World Series, and maybe even win it, as lousy a thing as that would be. It’s been a long drought for them. In that sense, they’ve paid some dues to Giants fans. We’ve had some revenge.
I dug the ‘first line of lyrics’ “born” references. Well done, fellas. I tried to think of one, but haven’t been able to yet.
The Allman Brothers’ “Ramblin’ Man” might start with the chorus, if I remember correctly.
“Lord, I was born a ramblin’ man.”
D’oh! Chuck already referenced that song.
I was born standing up
And talking back
My daddy was a green-eyed mountain jack
Attention: The Fat Bastard is IN the game for Philly right now! He’s in the game!!!!!!!!
a garbled and mumbled “feckinA!” [true Philly accent is like Stallone’s in Rocky; almost incomprehensibly slurred words]
Zumie – I read your literature lists posts on the sidebar there – have read a few on the lists including all the Ken Follett ones – I am waiting for “Winter of the World” – the sequel to “Fall of Giants”. If you like Follett, and historical fiction, you will undoubtably enjoy Bernard Cornwell as well. I am currently on the 3rd of the “Saxon Novels” – Lords of the North (the 1st is The Last Kingdom followed by The Pale Horseman) – chronicling Alfred the Great’s reign in England during the Viking (Danish) wars during the late 9th Century. He’s also written extensively on Wellington’s military exploits with his “Sharpe novels” – starting with “Sharpe’s Tiger – the Siege of Seringapatam, 1799” and going all the way thru to Sharpe’s Waterloo – 15 June to 18 June 1815 – good stuff with a lot of great battle descriptions – he’s great at weaving very likable fictional characters throughout the story while staying true to the historical facts.
Anyways, sup BigFlav? – long time no see guys – good to see twin still alive and kickin’ – nice site here BF.
Should be a good series – still quite a few games to go after it’s over – I’m thinking it will be back and forth from here on out.
GR???
The Rooster? Be still my heart. What happened? You forget how to type? 🙂 Dude, you are always welcome here and I was disappointed to see you go *way back when*….
twin might have different feelings. 🙂
Magnus,
Thanks for the glowing review of BASEBALL’S STARRY NIGHT at Amazon. Indebted.
I didn’t do it justice. I’m sorry it wasn’t better. And that it took so long.
Geez. Honestly, couldn’t ask for more. Nuff said.
Zumiee, as a bookman, you might be interested in: 1) I just started A PIRATE FOR LIFE by Steve Blass. Already liking it a lot. I think if I were a pitcher [no names I want to name], it’d scare the shit out of me; couldn’t read it. 2) Espionage/murder mysteries. Robert Wilson. The Blind Man of Seville. A Small Death in Lisbon. At times, Wilson pproaches John Le Carre at his best.
Hmmm.
1. The Yankees
2. The Yanks
3. The Dodgers
4. Dick Cheney [The Devil in a Suit]
5. Rush Limbaugh
6. Glenn Beck
7. Sarah Palin
8. The Marlins
9. The Angels
10. The NFL Giants
11. The Lakers
12. Joe Lieberman
Misty-May-T looks like a chick who is *face down/ass up* on a nightly basis. Good for her…….
Confused. BBOTD? Pornstar? Pawnstar??
These ESPN announcers blow.
is Tony Gwynn doing color, w/ Sutcliffe announcing? ?? They sound like tired chipmunks.
13. The Diamondbacks
14. The Padres
15. The Rockies
16. Roger Clemens
17. Joe Buck
It’d be sacrilege to put him on the list, but the commercial on ESPN2 w/ Cal Ripken Jr. reminded how dreadfully bland he was at a charity event as a speaker
big K by Madbum
some catch by Kershaw; we wouldn’t want him to hurt his wrist on that, would we?
I totally agree about Ripkin and the KNBR morning show *outted* him (I think it was their show) a year or two ago and they showed what a phony he was—they replayed him off the air (b4 the appearance) and then they replayed his on air appearance.—2 totally different dudes. He’s fake, through and through……
Gloating Roaster, are you making dinner or something? Don’t come back for a single post and then go make more dinner for 3 years, that would be just a huge puss move. 🙂
whether Posey got him or not, his reputation is now preceding him. He’s got a cannon and everyone is starting to know about it…….
not the time for this, but I am totally blown away that Chris Stewart is hitting .265 for the Yankees this year…..
Thanks for the book recommendations, guys. I jotted the info down and will look for them. I have an awesome local library.
SanDawg’s Most Hated List
1. Dodgers–‘nuf said
2. Angels–I’m still bitter about 2002, I’m uber-jealous they crank out so much home grown talent, they spend money like Yankees/BoSox west, and I hate the LA Angels of Anaheim crap.
3. Lakers–esp the Johnson/Jabbar years
4. UCLA—my most hated college team
5. A’s–Billy Beane hype makes it even easier for me to dislike them
6. Red Sox (King of the bandwagon-fan teams–they’d rank higher but Pedroia grew up around the corner from my parent’s house in Woodland)
7. Ohio State–insufferable fans for starters
8. Tiger Woods (…and it has nothing to do with his personal life)
9. Duke (being at the 2011 NCAA tourney game where Arizona crushed them while throwing down about 15 vicious dunks was awesome.
10. Bronco’s–esp during Shanahan/Elway years.
Of course, I vehemently agreed with all of this as you are my long, lost twin brother. Except the Ucla one. Ucla over USC? Can’t do it.
I know man, the USC thing sets us apart. Blame it on Pat Haden and JK McKay. When I was a kid I took a liking to ‘SC cuz they were the only team back then I ever saw throw the ball. I’ve stuck with them ever since—the only team in LA I root for.
My UCLA hatred may have something to do with the fact they didn’t accept me and that my first year at SDSU was the first in a 10 year home-and-home series where we played them in football. I went to all 10 games and we lost all 10 games. We’ve probably lost to them 7-8 more times since that series expired. Now that the Giants have won the WS, SDSU beating UCLA in football is probably my number one sports wish.
Don’t mean to distract from in-game postings here, but the mention of baseball books got me thinking: beyond the immortal Ball Four, I have also really enjoyed quirky or charming fiction about baseball. “All the Way Home” was one I read years ago, before that girl-baseball film “League of Their Own” came out; written by I want to say somebody Clooney (a woman), about a woman’s baseball league in more contemporary times, just great characters, baseball as microcosm of life stuff. And “Henry Waugh and The Universal Baseball Association” or something like that, written by the rather avant garde meta-fiction writer Coover.. and there was one other one, damned if I’ll ever remember the title, about a guy who found himself time traveling and ending up on a traveling baseball team in the old days.. fun stuff.
wasn’t that time travelling one an episode of the old TV series, Quantum Leap? with the time machine piloted by Dean Stockwell. Maybe the episode was taken from the book.
Yeah Loo, GR here – good game so far – Bum & Kershaw both looking good.
BF – yeah, I got away from the blog scene for a while there – no particular reason – just got busy with other things – work, family, etc. But now that we have a real race going with the two teams who belong in the race, i’ll be tuning in more.
Good. You always said a lot of shit that I would agree with. Not everything, but a lot. Plus, you’re pretty fuckin funny.
Don’t be a stranger.
Arias is bating in front of Belt? Huh?
Sup, unca?
Hated list :
1. USC
2. USC
3. USC
That fucking fight song of USC is enough to put them WAY up my list.
Hey GR, long time no blog.
Whhat was your old handle? Giantloser? Some shit like that?
Haha! was that the original? Wow, good memory you have – kinda surprising considering all the weed you smoked back in the day.
What? You think I stopped?
Yeah, that USC fight song that gets played over and over all game is pure noise pollution. The Trojans make a 3-yard gain, here comes the fight song. QB completes a 4-yard pass, here comes the fight song….
Right up there with the tomahawk chop in the abject annoyance factor.
Time out for USC,we have to pants the referee!!DaDa DaDah.
Hey, you know what I really hate? AMERICAN LEAGUE BASEBALL. This 1-0 game is far more exciting than an AL 13-7 Friday night softball game that takes 4 hours.
I couldn’t agree more, zoom – this is a great duel so far. Waaaaay better that that bastardized version of hardballl in the AL.
Kershaw with all that dirt on his jersey. That’s NL baseball.
Agree with Michael, I don’t do much hatin’. But top of my list: Notre Dame. Sorry to all your “Irish” out there… remember when NBC or one of the networks signed a TV contract and every Saturday, it was only Notre Dame football? Fighting Irish? Nothing Irish about ’em. Still love to see ND get beat, all the time. (I dated a real Irish for a few years awhile back, from Dublin, my one true love, actually, in Boston, and the “Irish” in Boston (several generations removed, of course) were just nasty people to the real Irish who lived and worked there. I tended to side with real thing)….
I have never and will never understand why a guy slides head first into 1st base. But Pagan did that beautifully.
At least he was smart enough not to go head first into home…
If you could run while sliding, it might make sense. Otherwise, you are not getting there faster by diving.
Somehow Pagan picks up speed when he hits the ground. It defies physics…
“just got busy with other things – work, family, etc.”
I think “etc.” was the Giants winning the WS…
Gold, baby . . .
No tag. No out. Good call.
close but safe all the way – good call.
BTW, I love the ” I don’t hate, but I want to skull-fuck [insert evil entity of choice]” Ha ha
Thanks, all.
Damn. Buster fishing . . .
Yeah Eat Shit Dodgers!!! Huge 2nd run provided by Panda and Pagan.Clutch hitting and Pagan makin it happen at the plate on close play.He’s Saaaaaffffeeee!!