2 Ellises and a Cruz
Without these three guys, the Dodgers would be NOWHERE this season. The “Big 4” get all the publicity, but it’s these three guys, grinding out tough ABs, starting and keeping rallies alive, who have kept the Dodgers chugging along. The Big 4, as a unit, have not lived up to the hype yet, and in fact, the hype has kind of faded for the moment. Ethier is having a nice season, Ramirez is a player on the decline, Gonzalez has yet to prove he can get a team over the hump, and Kemp is clearly still feeling the hamstring to some degree. It’s especially noticeable on defense. When he and Ethier are hitting on all cylinders on defense, the rightcenter gap pretty much disappears. Not so these days. There’s a gap between them now. And AT&T Park has a lot of green grass to cover.
Having said all that, it’s a tough one for Timmy tonight. I think that, other than Victorino, whose glory years are behind him, and the pitcher’s spot, there’s 7 tough ABs for Tim to work through each time through the order. And it’s especially important that he dispose of the 2 Ellises and Cruz without expending a zillion pitches, getting weary, and making mistake pitches to the Big 4. As always, he needs to get his pitches down in the strikezone, and stay consistent. Don’t be walking guys. If a couple of the Big 4 hit a solo homer, no big deal. We still win 4-2. But if he’s walking the 2 E’s and C, trouble. The 2 E’s and C have been catching some breaks, and those breaks are due to lessen at some point. They’re going to put the ball in play, trust your defense, and DON’T WALK THEM.
40,000 people in the stadium, and untold thousands at home will be pulling for Timmy to help the Giants retake the homefield advantage for the rest of the season. Turn it back into OUR HOUSE in a big way. This is Giants baseball. You come into OUR HOUSE, and you get SHUT DOWN. We want it back to where opposing teams don’t FEEL comfortable here, they don’t LOOK comfortable, and they don’t ACT comfortable. Dominant pitching, solid defense, and an offense that will keep battling, will find a way, and never gives up. It’s Giants/Dodgers. It’s September. It’s a battle for the division title. Let’s do this thing!!
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Scoots? Fuck!!
Coulda been worse, shoulda been better.
the baseball gods are at work
That run is totally on the defence (that’s for u edd).
Baggs called it the most unearned run Lincecum has ever given up
Chapman gives up 3 runs and the worse team in BB beats one of the best 5-3
Crawford gets it– how funny is that? CRAWFORD is the only hitter to “get” how to hit Beckett
No offense to Krukow….but if he was the opening day pitcher for the ’85 Giants, then I think that clarifies some things about the ’85 Giants….
Pagan has ice water for blood.
dat cutter? no cut
Huge 2 out RBI AngelFuck you Beckett!!
“The Insane Steed”— he gets us going.
I’m ranting like a lunatic. Dogs and tv looking for cover. Way to go crawdad to get it started.
Fucking umps. Nice play Buster (good practice for ya). Ha.
If you say “the IN-Sane Steed” is that a better nickname?
Obviously it would be huge if Pagan gets it going again- he’d been .184 in his last 49 AB over two weeks..
Your hatred of him (due to your weird obsession with Vungo) has gotten old. He single handled saved the team after Melky went down. You can keep hatin’ but it’s unbelievably misguided.
Baseball is about a season, not a “section” of a season.
No hatred-that’s absurd-he’d been slumping- and he’s had poor months alternating witrh great ones. They need him this month and I’m delighted he came through. Now I’m done with him with you tonnight.
What’s Timmy’s FB running tonight? 89-90? Kruk is fucking crazy with his obsession about mechanical problems being fixed. He’s pitching on borrowed time tonight, IMO…
In my opinion, his problem has been going more than 5-6 innings. Last start, he threw 111 pitches over 6 1/3 innings, but only allowed the homer (DeJesus). I like that he is still striking out a ton of people (I think 165 in under 160 innings approx.) – so that’s good.
Tonight tim is hitting the target more often than not. He is facing a tough strike zone. He is through the famous fourth inning. he has been wild at times and has a few pitches thrown.
Am I the only one that got Lasorda, yet forgot Bochy on the trivia question?
Had em both joe – longevity alone made me think of them.
Has everyone seen the Rob Schneider (giants fan) video of his announcing an inning during the series in LA?
http://goo.gl/sEZZ3
Crawford is taking it to another level.
Nice!
Yes. WTG Timmy’s magic act.
Get a run and tim goes in the 6th to get a win
While I am still doing a slow burn about this post….:
twinfan1 said, on September 7, 2012 at 8:16 pm (Edit)
Obviously it would be huge if Pagan gets it going again- he’d been .184 in his last 49 AB over two weeks..
I am going to move on. Big game tonight. Still can’t understand how you would diss a player after such a huge hit (unless you had your usual agenda going). But whatever, I’m…..>>>>> moving>>>>on……..
A slow burn over facts? Good idea-move on.
You’re getting off easy with your bs tonight. Do not respond to this post.
Why do I not like Sanchez?
I’m missing Loo.
yeah, what’s up with that? He’s been fighting this battle, SF vs. LA, for 50 yrs.
Might be auditioning for “Weeping for Vungo,” the movie.
Early season craw never made that backhand play; couldn’t pick the ball up cleanly every time I saw him try it.
Maybe hector redeems himself later, but he Beckett is making him look bad up there so far.
Timmy’s battling,making the big pitch when it counts.5 walks 84 pitches thru 5 alittle steep though.Still better then a Johnny Sanchez 84 pitches in 3 inning pace though.
FuckenA, I cannot TAKE a tit-for-tat Sanchez verbal donnybrook. Puhleeez.
Flavor, I don’t think twinfan was dissing him. I’ve been anxious to see how Pagan does this month as well, since he’s been so hot and cold all year.
Of course I wasn’t dissing him.. And there will be no Dirty OR Pagan donnybrook, not with me involved, anyway.
…but don’t you just love that word? I do.
There will not be a kerfuffle, either…
Well when you fucking start it for no reason and then post something like this, it makes you look even more culpable. But that’s for others to judge, I’m trying to move on from that bullshit post from earlier–/still having trouble doing that
The umpire loves that Beckett pitch that slides back across the plate, got Hector twice.
Wouldn’t Hanley’s strike out looking look a lot better followed by his gay-ass “finger binocular” pose directed at the umpire post pitch?
I still don’t know what the fuck the finger binocular thing was…
Shades of Gwynn Jr… Fucking pathetic…
Blimey..after K’s of Kemp Ramirez and Ethier..
Fuck. Dude goes yard every about every time a comet or lunar eclipse occurs. Sigh.
walking the 8th hitter, twice, so beckett isn’t leading off the inning…don’t get that one.
Let calmness prevail here. The Giants shall find a way. To win.
Perfect bunt. Way to go Angel!
One thing about the fantastic game of Baseball,you never know at anytime who might step up big.Adam Kennedy’s HR only his 2nd in 168 AB’s this year.Asshole….
Well, Tim almost got to 6 innings with just 1 run. 6 for 2 is pretty decent these days. He just can’t seem to get people out without throwing a passle of pitches. Why isn’t Pagan stealing BEFORE Scutaro gets through with his AB?….
Pagan should steal third. Nobody does it much, ever. Rickey Henderson sure did.
Look on the bright side: imagine the damage those 6 walks would have caused if Posey was catching.
The score really doesn’t matter when judging Lincecum at this point in the game. When Timmy consistently gets beaten by guys like Adam Kennedy (and Tony Gwynn Jr earlier in the year) he is failing tonight as what used to be a former stud Cy Young.
The Timmy Apologists can rant on, but you CAN NOT let some dumb fuck utility guy like Adam Kennedy break the tie at this point in the game with a bomb. Same principle applied with Gwynn Jr earlier in the year, by the way…….
Big game pitchers don’t get beat by small town hitters the way he has gotten beaten this year………
I won’t disagree with you on that. I will say that giving up 2 over 6 is one of the better efforts for a Giants SPitcher over the last fortnight, no matter how ugly it was. He kept them in a position to win the game, that’s worth something, actually, quite a bit…
Beckett is an idiot as everyone knows. But he has all the credentials of an ace. Timmy gave up a bomb to Adam fucking Kennedy. Beckett got jobbed on a squibby bullshit thing to third.
Beckett has beaten him tonight, IMO. And that’s the last thing we needed…….
Yeah that’s right BF…Cause big time pitchers fuck the prom queen,while the small town hitter watches in dismay jerking his chain.
Horse laugh!
take that karma, fecking Kennedy
Times two. I’m witcha Pawlie.
Wow, that’s crazy. We’ll take it…
So. I start toward the tv and suddenly the ball goes under his hand. The run scores. Coincidence?
I guess Bochy has less confidence in a rested Mota than a tired Tim…
7 Walks,had to go get him but Timmy battled hard to keep at 2 runs hopefully.Casilla has to bail him out here.
Victorino your such a pussy.Eat Shit!!!
Ha, 6 walks? I just checked his line. Talk about a pitcher afraid of contact. Timmy has morphed into Zito…….
Zito consciously throws to avoid contact because he throws 82. Tim seems not to be ABLE to control his pitches half the time, mostly the fastball…
Snarkk, it’s the same thing you just haven’t seen it yet. He’s avoiding contact too. A guy who used to throw 96 for years is now afraid to throw a FB at 91. And yet, there’s a guy who has followed the exact same career path (Beckett), at least in terms of “Bye bye fast balls” who is beating his ass tonight………
disagree with you there…he got the big guns out all night, harmlessly. No way Z does that, and if he walked 6 or 7, they would have scored that many runs too imo.
Zito and Timmy shouldn’t even be in the same discussion unless all the Timmy Apologists are ready to declare him a shell of his former self…….
This could be a defining moment for timmy in this inning.
Or not…will never know.
I love the call of bringing out Timmy for the seventh. Make a statement. Win the game. Dare to be dominant
Or not…
sorry, 7 walks……He’s turned into Edwin Jackson’s no hitter except for all the hits and the runs……
Fuck Tim Lincecum, I don’t care what’s wrong with him, He’s clearly, at this point, a #4 or #5 pitcher………
where’s Denny?; maybe he fecking DOES need a haircut
Im not buying it BF, 2 time CY Young Winner is never gonna be a 4-5 guy IMO.Yeah this year could be alot of different issues,mechanics,hidden injury,mental,no daddy help letdown whatever, im just gonna say he bounces back next year and finds his mojo again.He still K’s alot of hitters even while he has struggled,so that still a good sign to build off of.
Kat, the longer this goes on with Lincecum, I’m thinking we’ll find out in the offseason that he’s got an injury of some sort…
He walked 7 guys tonight. Go find another CY winner who did this in 6 innings. Preferably in a big game. He’s afraid of contact. That should be obvious to most at this point…..
Very gratifying to see Hector help Timmy achieve a personal best.
I don’t like how Timmy waited to be yanked. Sure, he was done; he knew Bochy would pull him. But, heck, Mr. Two-Time Cy Young, at least pretend you’re like a prizefighter who tells his cornerman he is not surrendering, he’s got fight in him.
He was pathetic tonight. Fucking Josh Beckett turned him face down ass up………
Both gave up 2 runs over the same distance. Tim’s was ugly, but he kept the team in the game. Cain could walk only two, then give up a 3 run bomb, and we’re down 3-2. That’s worse, objectively,and practically than the uglier effort. Lincecum battled. I don’t give a shit how he walked off the mound. I’ll take 2 runs over 6 1/3 this time of year, as I said much earlier today…
that’s fine, I’m not questioning your take. My take is that Timmy got his ass handed to him when it mattered most. Again, all the Timmy apologists love to ignore his gigantic failure against the worst hitters in the league (or those who used to be in the league).
I’m not in that boat………
If Sabean is able to get a ML ready starting pitching prospect for Timmy, i pull that trigger in a fucking heartbeat.
Meanwhile, Hanley is doing his best ryan howard imitation.
The hell. Make Casilla a three-inning starter replacing Lincecum. Somebody, I forget who, just announced they are going to a six-man rotation. (These statements make no sense whatsoever. Neither does Lincecum’s pitching.)
steal third
hi Amy
flav, I understand how you feel, but how do you explain that the guys after ellis up to kennedy were 0-14 against Lincecum? That’s Vic, Agon Kemp Ethier Hanley, not one hit all night btw them. And then add two more to the oh fer list vs. Casilla.
because this is a big game and you judge big games differently than the others……..
I think most big time pitchers bear down a little harder on the big guns and relax a tad on the bottom of the order guys. I think it ‘s only natural. My point is that the dodgers big guns did exactly nothing whatsover tonite—call it an epic heimlich if you want, but lincecum got them out all night without anything being hit remotely hard. I think that’s quite an accomplishment, whether it’s on him or on them for suckitude when their team needs it most.
Burriss with the good sac bunt. Yes, that makes me happy…
As of now the fight for who stays home in October is between Zito and Vogelsong..like it or not, Tim is the #3 right now…
Your right…That just scares the hell out of me…It’s amazing how the dynamics of this team has changed since Opening Day.
Marcoooooo!
Turn it up to eleven. YES.
fuck yeah.
And Mr. Beckett just went ass up..
one inning after Timmy did. He beat him. No other perspective should be considered unless it’s one of your agenda’s…
Hey, want to toss another Pagan Bomb out there? Ha ha ha ha..Ummm… didn’t think so……..
A bomb? Saying a big month would be huge or the team, and pointing out he was slumping? You were out of control, Craig.
Lincecum had a gutty efffort and but tor two misplays in the first by Scutaro and Panda- it was 2-1 when Tim left. I’ll pray along with everyone else that we get as good an effort Sunday…And only in a delusional world did Beckett beat anyone. Tim-standing tall. Josh: ass up…
Scutaro is fuckin’ NAILS. Great AB. At this point of the season, I wouldn’t want anybody else up in that situation…
In a word: yes
Marco Scutaro, MVP MVP MVP. OK. Just for now. SCUTARO!!!!! Marcofuckin Scutaro. M.F. Scutaro. Scoots. Scutarian, Scooterinski. O’Scutaro. Anyway you spell it = HERO.
There is our second baseman for next year.
Well Beckett looks like a Fucking Loser now BF.So fuck him and the Dodgers!!!7
Nighty nite. I’l watch from the porch-it will be quieter…
bring a Pagan Doll with you to burn, it might be fun for you…….
Marco “Professional Grade line drive machine Scurato”.Guy just will not be denied in the clutch..Money!!!
Flem says that according to Fangraphs, Scutaro has swung and missed exactly 6 times since becoming a Giant. 6 times! incredible.
Every young Giant player should watch this guy at bat and learn, and listen to what he has to say about plate approach and situational hitting. He’s smart, he’s a ballplayer…
yeah dawg. That was on a fangraphs article on scuts I read couple days ago, true stat.
Wow, Buster looked foolish on that last pitch against League. Me thinks he’s in a slump.
Cool thing is we can now set the defense.