What time is it ? Time to do it again!

Posted in Uncategorized by twinfan1 on October 5, 2012

It seems like we’ve hashed it all out already. Did I see that Arroyo is starting game 2? Lash me, beat me, tell me a what a dummie I am if I’m wrong- but I’m saying that gives the series to the Giants. I’m with Flavor on this- Latos had to be the guy at ATT. Bronson is a perfectly fine 3 or 4-but he’s 0-4 here and Latos just needs to show up to throw zeroes at us ( yes, I know he gave up 2 in Game 162 in 2010 ) . I think we win both at home- so who goes in Game 3 then? I think he has to give Tim the shot for the sweep… so without further ado- here’s what I want to see in a few weeks- then I’ll bask my ass off one more time

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Nipper said, on October 5, 2012 at 4:24 am

Time to kick butt. GO GIANTS!
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:53 am

Regarding the 2 wild card games today, I am really excited about watching the AL game. Yu Darvish is one of the most exciting pitchers in the game–he’s a strike out machine who throws 7 different pitches. S-E-V-E-N. He can get a little wild now and again and he’s not unhittable, but he’s electric and in a 1 game elimination situation I can’t think of a better tv draw than Darvish. The flip side is his opponent, Mr Innings Eater, Joe Saunders. Factor in Texas’ collapse to Oakland and there’s no telling which way this one goes.
I’d like to see Atlanta beat St Louis just because I don’t like St Louis (for all of the reasons any Giant fan doesn’t like St Louis. Fuck you, Jose Oquendo).
blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:36 am

Nice thread Twin . . . Latos is toast here, there, or on the moon. Same thing goes for Arroyo. Oh, and veering away from baseball news for a moment – The unemployment rate is down to 7.8% this month. Game, set, match for Obama (unless you want to try some of that delicious Voodoo Economics with that non-waterfall trickle down effect the Republicans have repackaged again this year). 🙂
willedav said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:19 am

Last time I saw Braves here left a bad taste in my mouth. Freeman whacked a couple bombs including one over the CF fence and their pen dominated us. I think it’s us vs. them for NL title…STL doesn’t look like much but I thought the same last year. If Wash takes out the O’s, he gets the Yanks again, great theater.
Bronson Arroyo obviously can be had; maybe Baker figures he’ll do better in our yard and that Latos will dominate anywhere and hold down SF road offense. As to the SF rotation, I still think bochy will go with his heart and throw Lincecum in game 3. But the fact that he hasn’t announced it yet makes he think he isn’t comfortable with it; he just isn’t prepared to send TL and his 5.- something ERA to the pen and go with Zito and Vogs, both of whom finished season off better….yet.
Up 2-0? Even 1-1? Lot to think about.
blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:50 am

Happy birthday Ed! I hope you have something fun planned for your special day ya big limey bloke lug. 🙂
- eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:52 am
  
  Cheers, Mate.
  I am a little bit embarrassed because since I have been here I now eat MILD salsa.
  *shudder*
chipower9 said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:53 am

Nice thread, Michael. I’m ready to bask my ass off some more, too! I too am looking forward to the “elimination games” today. I was on the fence with this whole additional WC thing, but as it gets closer and the more I have thought about it, I like it. It rewards the all of the division winners, and whoever wins today will spend one of their top pitching bullets advancing.
I think Tim gets the ball in game 3. Game 4, Zito or Vogey? If an emination game for us, I would suspect Cain on short-rest. Otherwise, my guess is it would be Zito, since Vogey has the better background/make-up to come in from the pen.
Second season starts today!

Orange and Black Forever! GO GIANTS!! Humm Baby – Let’s Do It Again!!!
Alleykat said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:27 am

Bochy’s going balls out for the sweep at home.Tim will be #3 against Latos, will be tough matchup,but Tim will prevail.Giants ROLL!!!
zumiee said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:51 am

That game 3 decision is one of the biggest managerial decision we’ve ever seen Bochy have to make. It’s definitely not an easy decision, and it’s one that will be hugely second-guessed if it doesn’t work out. I say go with Tim and hope for the best. The last game Tim pitched in the playoffs was that stellar game 5 of the World Series. I think you have to hope there is some of that magic left.
twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:06 am

Well, this is all I could come up with. I’m fipped, zipped, and warred out. On paper, this is obviously a much tougher match up than Atlanta in 2010, even if the Reds don’t have Foster Brooks….a lot has been made of the Red’s pen but our trio of loogies are tough against lefties- if we have a lead late, Votto and Bruce will have loogie phobia. I’ve said it ever since they got him that Mijares would be a big factor. And that’s even if he doesn’t.pitch.
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:10 am

Tim has had some quality #3 starter games this season and there is no doubting his fight.

And in the ‘band-box’ how many Giants fly outs or doubles will have better results?
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:17 am

Looks like the UK is sending you guys a bushel full of terrorists for trial.
http://goo.gl/zPf2h
- unca_chuck said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:59 am
  
  Can the Brit pilots just parachute out of the plane, and let it go down in the Atlantic?
  - eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:11 am
    
    This guys . .
    it was funny today to see men with beards wearing muslim clothes attacking the police outside court today. Like angry rioters. Very un-Muslim like IMO
Salty said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:20 am

Ah, beautiful overhead shot. We’ll always have 2010.
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Now if G’s are up 2 zip, what about Bochy using Zits/Vogs against Latos, since he’s so dominant against the G’s, and leave Tim and Matt for games 4 & 5? That goes against conventional wisdom that you never concede anything and you go for the sweep, but it’s something I’d consider.
On the other hand, if they are down 2-0 or it’s 1-1, obviously gotta go Tim.

Would guess the key is keeping the Reds from hitting hr’s. They have 172 to the G’s 103, but the G’s have outscored them 715 – 669.
- Salty said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:23 am
  
  Of course, that’s assuming Tim is a better choice than either Zits or Vogs. Nothing we’ve seen this year confirms that.
  - eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:02 am
    
    Tim has had some quality #3 starter games this season and there is no doubting his fight.
- twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:49 am
  
  That strategy used to be quite common when there were a lot of double headers. Throw your weaker guy against their ace and hope to steal one.Then put up your Cy Young against Hiram Pladnick in the nite cap.’Course, they’re doing the same thing…
- chipower9 said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:12 am
  
  If they are down 2-0, depending on how many pitches Cain throws tomorrow, I could see Bochy bringing him back on short-rest.
  - twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 12:19 pm
    
    I don’t see anyway he brings Matt back on that little rest- even with travel, that’s just two days. he might do it if they were down 2-1 for Game 4.
ewisco said, on October 5, 2012 at 10:57 am

I prefer voggy in game 3. he’s pitched tough against kershaw a couple three times and i think he’d give latos a run. save tim for 4.
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:50 am
  
  that’s an idea I thought about a lot today. I like it.
unca_chuck said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:00 am

Matty will be ready if there’s a game 4.
- Salty said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:26 am
  
  We’ll, let’s see how he does in Game 1. Reds have hit him pretty well and he’s a fly ball pitcher. I’m not sure he’s a good bet on 3 days rest in that band box.
  
  And if there’s a game 5, what then? Vog/Zito? Bum on 3 days?
  - twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    
    When you face elmination, you don’t worry about who might pitch if you avoid it.
Irish Kevin said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:07 am

Don’t know if this has been shown but this cool
- chipower9 said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:22 am
  
  That is FUCKING BAD ASS!!!
  
  Let’s Go Giants! SF GIANTS!!!
  
  FUCK YEAH!!!
  
  I am SO fucking PUMPED, and the damned game isn’t even until tomorrow!
  - chipower9 said, on October 5, 2012 at 1:21 pm
    
    I agree…Ashkon should be a Flapper.
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 11:34 am
  
  It got shown about 100 times here last year but not so far this year. Great video.
  - Irish Kevin said, on October 5, 2012 at 12:17 pm
    
    Yeah, Ashkon should be a flapper, he is a true Giants fan!!
Irish Kevin said, on October 5, 2012 at 12:22 pm

I just got an email from CSEA and it is Fleet Week starting this weekend and the Blue Angels are going to be there. They have to buss the Giants game!! That would be sooo cool!!
- Irish Kevin said, on October 5, 2012 at 12:22 pm
  
  ha ha buzz, not buss!! fat finger syndrome
demp28 said, on October 5, 2012 at 12:33 pm

The Giants aren’t going down 0-2, Bochy is going balls out, yes. There is no thinking about it: Timmy’s gonna pitch Game 3, and we’re gonna stick it to Latos, that punk ass surfer dude who hates SF.
In the immortal words of referee Mills Lane, “LET’S GET IT ON”!!!
Bozo said, on October 5, 2012 at 1:07 pm

Twin, that photo is so beautiful it almost made me cry.
Let’s do it again!
GO GIANTS.
- twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:26 pm
  
  You think that’s something. You should have seen he parade after I won the Liar’s Dice tournament at House of Shields…
  - Bozo said, on October 5, 2012 at 3:03 pm
    
    I can only imagine.
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 1:20 pm

well it’s almost time, hope they show everything here I love to see the blue Angel flyover.

At least it’s a decent start time
chipower9 said, on October 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm

The City is going to be crazy this weekend. Hardly-Strictly kicked-off today, Fleet Week, Giants get it going tomorrow night, Niners on Sunday. I’m heading down for Hardly-Strictly tomorrow morn and Sunday (WE’VE had our hotel room booked for a couple of months).
Tempted to try and pick-up a ticket for tomorrow’s game. Bleacher seats for under a hundy and lower box for a buck and a quarter. Tempting. But, the current plan is to grab some grub (meeting friends who also have a room) and watch the game at the hotel. Going to be a kick-ass weekend!
Just collected on my Niner-Packer bet. Had lunch at a kick-ass restaurant. I tried not to gloat too much (oh, and she’s a Dodger fan to boot)! BOO YAH!
- zumiee said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:29 pm
  
  I won’t be making it to Hardly Strictly this year; this is the first year I won’t be at any of the festival days.
  I’ll be there next year!
  Emmylou Harris is a big fan of the Braves, I guarantee you she’s checking in on this Braves game or watching it somewhere.
  And speaking of the Braves….they went with Medlen as the starter. I thought there was a chance they might go with Huddy, but they went with the young phenom.
  Hayward with a nice homerun-robbing snow-cone catch there.
twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:14 pm

I’m going to make some notes about the players as the day goes on- they’re all going to be positive, as befits playoff eve…Posey. I don’t think there is anyone anywhere who expected anything close to what he gave us. It deserves to be an even bigger story than what it is- bigger than even Miggy’s triple, and the amazin’ A’s, IMO. To come back from that injury and become the batting champ and almost certain MVP is a truly incredible accomplishment. We’re somewhere between the Dbacks, the Padres, and the deep blue sea without Mr. Pear Butt…
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:22 pm

I couldn’t watch that top inning with the fans screaming on every pitch I had to pace the floor and peek at the telly
Irish Kevin said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:57 pm

I hope Timmy gets his mojo back
Irish Kevin said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae34qjaGOao
unca_chuck said, on October 5, 2012 at 2:58 pm

My daughters are going to Hardly Strictly. I did see Elvis Costello in Davis last weekend. Great acoustic show. He’s going to be a HSBF . . .
Bozo said, on October 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm

HSB is a phenomenal festival (or is that FUNomenal?). Chuck, Elvis usually plays there (as well as the last couple of years at Jazz fest). Z, Emmylou still has that sweet voice that backed up Gram back in the day. Great festival, I imagine GG Park is getting more crowded with it (I haven’t been for four years or so), BTW that was not a complaint, but if you get me started on one of those stupid fucking marathons that cut the City in half, we’re in for a long night..
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 4:03 pm

I thought Brooks Conrad wasn’t playing for the Braves anymore. That throw was freaking hilarious.
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 4:11 pm

SS kinda panicked there but Jesus, have the Braves infielders ever thrown a baseball before?
Bozo said, on October 5, 2012 at 4:14 pm

Wow, Atlanta was one of the hottest teams coming into the POs. Now they’re trying to give a souvenir baseball to the fans on balls still in play.

Flav, I think Brooks Conrad just sent thank you notes to the team.
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 4:45 pm

Those 3 braves have made 12/11/3 errors this year. They’ve played in 150/150/49 games respectively. The odds of all 3 making an error in the same gm is 3/1000th of 1 percent. Playoffs are crazy
zumiee said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:04 pm

Blown call, IMO. How can the infield fly rule be called on a ball that far into leftfield???
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:14 pm
  
  The infielder needs to be able to catch it in a reasonable way– and he reasonably was able to catch that, he was camped right under it. I don’t think there’s anything in there about where it has to be in relation to the infield.
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:12 pm

The braves fans are embarrassing themselves.
- eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:16 pm
  
  just a bit
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:17 pm

incredible with six supposedly good umpires, 3 crew chiefs.
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:24 pm

I was listening to that on the radio, just got home and saw it on tv. The Braves got robbed, the umpire didn’t make the IF Fly call until the ball was about 50 feet from the infielder. THat’s a joke, that call has to get made immediately.
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:37 pm

I do believe the ump called it on intention? He read something in the body language or the on-field chatter. And then shot his arm up to say, “oh no you don’t.”
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:41 pm
  
  He threw his arm up too late. You have to make that call immediately to give the base runners a chance to react. Growing up, we just listened to an umpire call IF Fly but I would think that in a huge stadium you’re just looking for the ump to raise an arm. And that was just way, way too late.
  I understand it’s a judgement call that can’t be even looked at by a protest but is it really a judgement call? To me, it’s concretely clear that the ump didn’t display the out sign early enough. That should be what is protested.
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:37 pm

well I’ll say this, that first WC game was far from boring…
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:42 pm

A friend just sent me this:
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:48 pm
  
  Goddamit Edd, you’re leaving at a time like this!!!!>?!?!!?!?
  Hey, even in such a abrupt exit Edd manages to give it to me British style by assuring me he’ll be right back. It’s so respectful and soupy….I still don’t think I’m using that word right……. 🙂 🙂 🙂
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:49 pm
  
  not showing up my man.
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:54 pm
  
  LIKE
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm

did you see the first inning of Yu?
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:54 pm
  
  no. I’ve been sitting here at my computer waiting for you to BRB. It’s a CRAAAAZY Friday night at Casa de Flavor’s!!!!!!!!!!
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:57 pm

balt got leadoff on via error, stolen base, single scores 1
then SO – PopOut – SO
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 5:59 pm

2am, the neighbors have some friends over, the helicopter is flying arouund.
just a normal night @ house of soup

🙂
unca_chuck said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:02 pm

So, what happened on the popup? I missed the IF deal. It looked like it was mid left field. Eck was trying to explain what happened but I got lost in his wavy hair. When did Eck become a woman?

(working on the sprinklers. The pipe glue is getting to me . . shit, I may have started drinking too early today as well. . .)
unca_chuck said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:04 pm

And as a postscrtipt. FUCK THE CARDS!! BURN IN HELL JOSE OKENDO!! OZZIE AS WELL!

Fucking StL is living a charmed life yet again. I HATE THAT FUCKING TEAM!!

Still and all, I think Pat (Mike) Metheny is cool.
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:06 pm

try not to get any of that glue on the KB
same kinda plastic
ewisco said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm

that IF fly rule call was not good. money on the game? somehow in my cynical old age i question every time an official can change a game with one call (see non-fumble call in the giants/9ers playoff). and i can’t look at mr. triple crown with anything but a raised eyebrow. sure, he’s put up numbers in the past, but that was ryan braun’s argument.

whatever, MLB won’t change the call and the never sufficiently damned cards move on.

have i mentioned that the g’s won 94 games, which I called?
- blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:58 pm
  
  Agree. I’ve watched it 3-4 times and same conclusion . . . Ump had his head up his ass making that call. Of course, I don’t like St. Louis either. 🙂
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm

The situation was this:
With two on and one out in the eighth, reliever Mitchell Boggs got Simmons to pop up to short left field. Shortstop Pete Kozma went out, called off Holliday but then hesitated and did not make the catch. The misplay loaded the bases for Atlanta. Or so the Braves thought.

Left-field umpire Sam Holbrook had surprisingly signaled for an infield fly, meaning that, by rule, the batter was ruled out. Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez vehemently argued the call, and a 19-minute delay followed to clean up beer bottles and other items thrown onto the field by upset fans. Play resumed under protest by the Braves,
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:19 pm

I’ve never done this, but I wanted to see what Braves fans were ranting about so I went to their newspaper blog and incurred the wrath (with some devils advocate posts) of about about 200 Braves fans in seconds. haha. They are freaking PISSED!
- eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:28 pm
  
  and drunk
- blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:00 pm
  
  I would love Pawlie to contact the Brave’s fans he had in his book and get their reaction for NO PLAYOFFS AGAIN 2.0
  - blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:02 pm
    
    Technically, I guess they did get the “playoff sniff,” but still one and out isn’t jack shit.
- blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:05 pm
  
  You should have brought Soph along with you. 🙂
- Bozo said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:17 pm
  
  The Braves fucked up that game and the call(s) didn’t help (the IF fly rule was just wrong.) If I was a Braves fan I’d be pissed tonight (in both the American and Irish slang). And, to agree with unca, FUCK the CARDS.
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Mota makes team along with Kontos. 12 pitchers. Huff, Theriot, Nady, Arias and Hector Sanchez are reserves.
per baggs
Henry adds: no pinch runner types
- twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:09 pm
  
  When he used 7 pitchers in the clincher, I thougt he might go with 12. i think that game was a pretty good preview of what to expect with this staff.
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:27 pm

Germany is killing the EU world series thing
eddacker said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:31 pm

Ya, know? One day you’re playing in Colorado near the end of your career and next day you’re in the play-offs
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 6:48 pm

Ewisco— You called 94 wins and by all counts you were the only Flapper to nail that win total. Having nailed it myself in the past, I “knowing dude head nod” you into The Club.
Berger is president (he never nailed a win total but he’s money in a cave) and we have most of our meetings in one of the nearby cave-haven spots–at least when the raccoon’s vacate during the night hours.
I can’t wait to see you there and properly welcome you aboard!
- ewisco said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:06 pm
  
  I’ll try to remember to bring my raccoon hat. which i have, thanks to a buddy of mine from Univ. of Tenn.
  
  I’ll bring the scotch.
- ewisco said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:07 pm
  
  maybe i should bring the BB’s as well as we know your tendency to the undead.
  - Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:03 pm
    
    they’re what are preferred in the dead of night. In a cave. Sans Raccoon’s. When Berger is trying to secure order during a skype-a-shot with Edd in England…….
blade3colorado said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:04 pm

Flav, I am feeling better and wondering if you are hitting the gym tomorrow????? Frickin’ cold laid me out most of this week, but am better today.
- Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:05 pm
  
  Blade, I am hitting the gym tomorrow. Time is a little unknown but probably 8:30 or 9. I have a soccer game to coach at 11:30. Sunday is a run and Monday is the gym and I’m not working that day so if that is more convenient then let’s do it. Let me know.
zumiee said, on October 5, 2012 at 7:58 pm

Rangers are in the process of Buffalo Bills-izing themselves.
SmokeyG said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:36 pm

Well, do love for Stl, but won’t miss the tomachop bullshit or whatever they call it in Atl. In fact, eliminate all red states, especially the idiots in Texas and I’ll be happy. Go Blue, Go Obama, FUCK YOU ROMNEY.
- SmokeyG said, on October 5, 2012 at 8:37 pm
  
  excuse me. “no” love. Good night all.
Wilcojoe said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:00 pm

Phillip Seymour Hoffman would have made a better Buck Showalter than Art Howe.
Wilcojoe said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:05 pm

Guess I won’t be making another trek to DFW for a Giants-Rangers World Series.
Flavor said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:09 pm

Well, The Rangers completed one of the more epic melt downs of our time (in terms of baseball). Washington is revered by most but I have never bought into it, he’s nothing more than a *player’s manager*. There is a lot more going on in terms of what buttons to push…….
Hey, I have to write a thread tomorrow about the NL individual awards to stay in good standing with the BBA. I don’t give a shit if you respond to it or not, it’s just a thing I have to post and then email the BBA President to *prove* I’ve done my duty.
That’ll happen early, maybe even right now if I decide to do it before I go to bed. But Pawlie is going to post right after me, we already discussed it.
twinfan1 said, on October 5, 2012 at 9:52 pm

Well, I discussed Ron’s managing, as did many of us, during the 2010 series. but being a player’s manager is a compliment, not a negative. Of course he has to have some tactical skills but I didn’t see or hear of much that he blew in that regard as they lost their lead. I’d put it more on the A’s great finish than a meltdown, at least where the manager was responsible. But I understand Craig’s view.Good night all.