Get Off Romo’s Back….
Look, Romo is not required to have to talk to reporters. It’s not like they ask anything but inane questions for him anyway. If he wants to bounce after a bad game, so be it. And if the beat guys are going to respond with pussy-fits like they did today then they shouldn’t worry about soft balling questions to these players. Just ask whatever you want to ask. And if you get kicked out of the clubhouse or shunned or blackballed then at least you earned it going out on the level.
Tweeting out all your cleaver, spontaneous thoughts doesn’t make you a good reporter. It makes you the same as all the other *tweeters*. And if you’re the same as them, what are you getting paid to do again?
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Come on BF. This is the most milquetoast set of beat and column reporters imaginable. Romo could give up 5 runs and flip off Bochy and they’d be looking for a positive angle. Blowing them off gives them a reason to get a little PO’d and look for negatives. Part of the job description of a MLB closer is to talk to the press, win or lose. Mariano Rivera can blow off the press, he’s earned it. Romo, he’s had some success, but who is he to blow off the press, apparently today is not the first time. Did Posey blow off the press post-game today? I assume he did not, and they must have asked him about screwing up that 9th inning grounder. Romo should smarten up and be a professional. The fans love the guy, they don’t need a reason to start disliking him…
Disagree–Romo’s job is to get ml hitters out, not suck up to beat writers. According to whining Henry he blew them off when he did well too. So leave the guy alone already.
Baggs is just as whiny and has his favs and plays GM or game mgr. all the time. About the only thing more annoying than him is the boatload of idiots who post on his blog. One of same had a post saying there were 4-5 guys more deserving than Posey for MVP last year, which one guy shot down by actually posting where Posey stood in a number of offensive categories.
Henry and Baggs have a job to do I understand. But leave the complaining about the shitheads they have to deal with to each other over a cold one without going all 7th grade on social media.
Well, we disagree. I feel it is part of the job description of every player to talk to the media, not just Romo. That doesn’t mean constantly, but after games is certainly fair game, and it’s a custom these days. If a player won’t talk after a tough loss, then he shouldn’t talk after a great win or save, either. Without interviews, there’s no other real way the fans hear about and get to interact with players. Bonds blew the media off, sure. But, he was a special case, a legend on the field. He had the performance capital to do it. Romo, not even close…
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a sports center themed TMZ show out yet. This kind of BS could be on 24/7, like who Dwight Howard is leaning toward playing for next year.
Reporting, if you can even call it that anymore, has de-volved into how many followers these guys can get on twitter. And the way to do that isn’t to report the news, it’s to *pre-empt* the news. And that’s not news. News is what’s already actually happened. If you’re just typing shit out as fast as you can to beat your competing beat writer to something that might happen on twitter is journalism, broken.
It no longer matters if what you’re tweeting is truthful, just that it’s posted before anyone else. And if you’re wrong? No harm no foul, just post something that says “updated…”
It seems like he sometimes blows them off after a good game, as well. I don’t have any big problem with it either way. It’s like Flavor says, it’s not like there are any great questions ( or answers) anyway. And geez, he was probably pretty upset about what happened.
It does remind me of my proposed generic locker room interview and celebration audio DVD sets. Designed for the small market radio media and cheapskate ownship niche, the set includes generic winning locker room interviews with realistic champagne popping, somber losing team clubhouse pieces, “F” words are an optional addidtion- these are completely progammable for any team or sport. In the test market, the players loved it. They do a few interviews in the studio and when the real time celebration is supposedly going down, they’re at the bar laughing at the dumb shit questions and answers.
The radio stations love it as well because they don’t have to spend money getting trucks, talent, and equipment to the scene. It’s all done in the studio in one day and it frees their sports people to do what they do best- get sloppy drunk at restaurants and stiff the wait people.
Generic locker room interview/celeberation CDs…LMAO. Giants could use a couple of those F-bomb ones now.
I consider dealing with the press after a game part of being a professional player at the highest level. When you’re in the minors, nobody gives an S what you think. You’re making $500 a week, and living with a local family. When you’re one of the few, gifted MLB players with a big contract performing in front of 40K fans, and on WS winning teams, people care about what you think, what you feel, what happened. It’s part of being a pro, and part of smart media relations, too, which is good businesses for you and the team. If Romo doesn’t care about the media, then whatever. So, he should quit his weekly gabfest with “Murph and Mac”, too — talk about inane, but I guess he’s paid for that…
I like Baggerly, I think he is a fantastic reporter. Very bright, does his job well. But the article he wrote today just reads like a twitter post without a character limit.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/andrew-baggarly/romo-giants-miss-chance-make-themselves-heard-vs-dodgers
Romo threw a single shitty slider today. And it lost the game for his team. He feels terrible. There’s no question that anyone can ask him that will be insightful. And there is no answer that can explain what happened, he threw one shitty pitch. What could anyone possible hope to hear from Romo that you don’t already know before you read it?
His snub of the press is his right as a professional, I don’t begrudge him for doing so even a little…..
Well, we can agree to disagree. I like Romo, and he’s done well. But, IMO he’s making a mistake with the media, and for no good reason. As for responding to Puig et al with the gestures, eh, players have been goading each other since dirt. I just don’t see much positive in it. When you fuck up, then the other guy has the upper hand in the tit for tat, like today’s 9th inning. Just do your job and ignore the doofus behavior of the opposition. I always revert back to my fav player, Stretch. I can’t say for sure that he never did it, but I doubt he was much into gesture competition with the other team. He spoke with his bat, that was enough. Romo should get the save, have a little celebratory gesture at nobody in particular, if he must, then get off the field…
Out for the night, gents. We need to take this Mets series…
Snarkk, in a perfect world I would agree with you on ball players and the press. But expecting these guys to act that way all the time win or lose like they were your sons talking to elders is unrealistic and isn’t going to happen.
I think it’s got to be obvious in that situation Romo was disconsolate, and it would have been just as easy for Baggs and Henry to have reported it that way. “Romo sat at his locker long after the game had ended with his head in his hands after a tough loss and wouldn’t comment on his performance” would have sufficed.
I applaud Posey for being a stand up guy, but to expect everyone to act like that in front of the media all the time is unfair. And I think it’s equally unfair and childish for Baggs and Henry to complain about it as if they are going to unfriend him on f-book or something.
Posey, btw, is about as boring and cliché driven in his comments as anyone. Even cain didn’t have anything to say about getting destroyed the other night besides “Just forget about it.”
Re Romo…Not a big deal. Re the game? A big loss. Posey’s error crazy annoying, but how can his bat not be in the lineup with as bad as we are sucking at the plate? This is the 1st game I have seen in a few weeks. What the hell has happened to Pablo? I’ve never seen him so lifeless at the plate. Looks lost. His terrible slump coincides with our losing streak over the last 30+ games…No power at all most of the season. It can’t be just his weight right?
he’s looked awful since he came off the DL. Like a different player. No bat speed. And pitchers are blowing fastballs past him. It’s almost time to question his vision again.
Weight? Vision? Is he getting laid regularly? 🙂
Actually, he was swinging the bat much better in the first two games of the Dodger series. And he was looking quite spry and agile in the field. Judging how he looked against Kershaw is maybe not a real good test.
Well, for anybody still here, where do you think we have to be for Sabean to buy? And do you think he’d sell if he thinks we’re out of it? Or just not buy? My feeling is that he’ll consider today rock bottom so we buy if we’re within 6 the last week of July and he stands pat if we fall farther back than 6 1/2. I don’t see him selling.
Mike, for him to be a buyer, I think it goes back to what we discussed earlier today about the current roster showing him they have a “pulse.” I looked at the scores for the last few weeks and based just on that, it’s fairly obvious that the team needs to hit and score more than what they’ve been doing. I have no idea when he “pulls the plug on life support.” I think someone mentioned 10 games back. Who knows?
If he isn’t a buyer, then I do see him possibly selling . . . He meets with Timmy’s agent and something gets worked out on a long term contract (no more than 3 years) where it provides Tim security, but reflects the current status of Timmy’s performance. In short, it favors the Giants. No deal before the trade deadline, then adios Timmy via a trade. The other person that I think might be trade bait is Pablo. No idea about particulars, but Pablo seems like a goner in my mind. Pence is also gone next season, along with Zito.
Addendum: The above is predicated on the Giants current roster continuing to do their massive face plant act . . .
There was something strong going on among the Latinos on both teams this weekend. Romo was right in the middle of it. That’s the story I want to hear. Romo’s inability to pitch perfectly two days in a row is not new. He wears down and hangs one. His outrage and shame after this game, however, were exaggerated because of the heightened competition among the Latino contingents.
could be some stuff from the WBC. Though I’m having a brain lock right now, I don’t think Romo pitched in that?
Romo did, for Mexico. I’ll bet the Caribe guys go back, too. I’m sure Pablo shouted something to Puig in Spanish after the tag out at 3B. And Hanley was getting trash from severall guys all weekend long.
I didn’t see Hanley’s end of the exchange after last night’s game until today. It all looked more playful than anything else after seeing both of them. Puig seemed the worst today. And if you watch him a lot, you see that he pulls stuff designed to piss off the opponent all the time. He should practice hitting the dirt because he’s going to be spending a lot of time there..
Of COURSE we should be buyers. We were on the cusp of sweeping this series and we’d be only 1 game off the Dodgers had we won today. Jesus, it’s not like we’re the Marlins or the fucking Astros. Considering all of our injuries, and now we are coming out of those, it’s understandable where we are record-wise….
You try to win every year. We are in the mix with the team we have but to do nothing while all the other contenders will do something would be essentially giving up. And I’m not down with that unless I’m a Marlins fan or an Astros fan. I weep for those fans…….
I just posed the question. I’m totally in the buy camp.
And I speculated on what I thought Sabean might do.
BUY! No way in hell they are out of it. Gaudin is back and looks good. A starter puts him in the pen where, IMO, he provides more value. Casilla will be back. Vogey will be back. The bats wake the fuck up, and who knows what happens.
On yesterday’s game, the most frustrating thing to me (and the least talked-about) was on the come-backer to Romo. Romo checks the runner at 3rd, and then looks to start what would have been an inning-ending DP, but Arias is MIA. THAT is the shit over the past month or so that has me going fucking nuts…the mental errors. This team was known for its fundamentals, and all of a sudden it looks like they forgot how to play the game.
Food for thought . . . At one point early in the season, I was in last place in the Flap League. I attribute this to not concentrating fully while I was in Florence, Italy (I was distracted by the museums), dogging it while I was in Athens, and not working out in the weight room. Fast forward today, I am tied for 3rd place with Giant Head. I attribute all of this to streaming pitchers, waiver wire pick ups, and trades.
Consequently, I believe 100% that the Giants can come back from the abyss. Sweet dreams all. 🙂
I’d prefer that Romo face the media, after good games and bad, but it’s not something I’ll lose sleep over. Not sure, though, why Baggs and HS felt the need to post the “Only want to talk . . . ” tweets, except for the possibility that if they didn’t, then somebody else would have. Otherwise, a “Romo declined to comment” would have sufficed.
My take has been why the fuck is Posey at 1st base? If they want to rest him, rest him. He’s a lousy 1st baseman,and he made 2 errors in the 9th to fuck that all up. Granted, Romo hung the fucking slider, but, that’s gonna happen from time to time. They have no other recourse there. Making a defensive switch late in the game is something that should have been done at the least. Or better yet, play your goddamned 1st baseman. It’s not like Belt is holding this juggernaut of an offense down.
Agree. To start the 9th, Belt should have been at 1st, Crawford at SS, and Buster behind the dish. That one is on Bochy.
BTW Flav, nice threads over the past few days. Been too busy to post . . .
As far as this season goes, it looks like it’s slipping away rapidly. For all the talk of the division sucking, AZ is starting to pile up some wins and stretch their lead out. I missed yesterday’s fun, so I didn’t see any of the antics, but Puig was jawing like a mofo to Romo today. That was the biggest pisser. Having the Dogs come in and take the series her after sweeping us easily at home. They look like the better team. We look lost and confused. Pence and Panda are basically worthless at this point. Teams have all gone through injuries, but this team can’t continue to play this poorly offensively. Like I said the other day, I’ve seen a lot of shitty Giants teams play a lot of shitty baseball, but this is the worst I’ve seen in a good long time.
Trade fucking Belt already if they are going to continually sit him.
I’m glad we’ve got Romo on our club. The dude is a warrior and he brings a ton to the table. Winning and losing with class and dignity is not one of the things he brings. So be it. He’s an emotional guy who gets sideways now and gain. One of the prices you pay for acting like that is getting your dirty laundry aired out in the media from time to time. Again, so be it.
Hey SD, my godson who lives down there with fiancée is getting married next spring. His mom showed me pix of some place in San Marcos where this will take place. No idea where this is, but looked pretty nice. Dunno if I would have a chance to get down there before that, but this one would be a definite.
As a LLer he got to wear will clark’s number two years in a row. One it was just given to him, the other he had to grab it before another guy got it. Now (20 years later) he’s a Pads fan.
In conclusion……BLEEP!
I just don’t care one way or the other if Sergio Romo fields moronic questions after a save or a blown save. I mean, how would YOU like to respond to something like, “How do you feel, Sergio?” [Cue up the audio of Tommy Lasorda being asked that type of question after Reggie Jackson’s three WS HRs.] Even Schulman admitted above that beat writers can write stories with or without player interviews. [Come to think of it, I was not given access to players for Game 162 of 2011, so I talked to fans. And glad I did.] As I noted yesterday, the press whined about Steve Carlton’s postgame silences, and then late in his career he was a blabbermouth. Who cares, either way?
If you look at standing in the entire NL, there are only 6 teams over .500, followed by Phils and Dodgers at .483, Rox a game back at .472 and SF one game back of them at .460. In the next week SF has 6 games vs. 2 of the 5 teams with worse records than they have in Mets and Pads.
After the break are home games vs. AZ Cincy and Cubs; can you show you have what it takes to win division?
I think Twin said it would be end of the month before Sabes makes a decision, which would coincide with the end of the homestand. So 15 games to figure out if what you have is good enough, if adding a piece or two is worth what it will cost, or giving some more time to some of the kids that might be in the mix next year/vets you want to keep is more prudent.
I’ll ask again- if by the luck of the ground ball god, a grounder goes to Arias instead of Posey and Joaquin booted it, would there be anybody grousing about Bochy not subbing Belt at first? Of course not. They’d be calling him a dunderhead for not having Crawford in for defense. If Panda is the miscreant, it’s why didn’t Bochy move Arias to third with Crawford at SS?. If Gillespie scewed up it’s “where’s Blanco?” It was a tie game, defensive switches aren’t usually made in a tie game. And how does Bochy which one to make? He’s supposed to guess who might make an error? Or should he cover his ass and make all of the the switches- leaving him with Sanchez and Abreu as the only bench players in the ninth inning of a tie game?
Crawford and Belt were sitting because of Kershaw. Once he was no longer in the game it was obvious that Bochy should have switched Crawford in at SS and Belt in at first (Posey going to catcher) to field your best defense for the remainder of the game. In fact, it’s beyond even a point to argue.
Actually, it’s only being said because of the error. It’s not protocol in a tie game. In fact, it’s beyond even a point to argue. How about making a new thread?
We’ve talked here (and will continue to talk here) about the players; who’s doing well, who’s fucking up, etc. Over these next few weeks, the players who are healthy and getting healthier just need to do their jobs better than they have been as a team. IMO, now the focus in July shifts more to Sabean and Bochy; Sabes for moves he might or might not make, and Bochy, who has been questioned of late for some moves or non-moves that some people feel are puzzling and not up to his stellar standard. After that lineup snafu, even Bochy said he wondered if he was starting to lose his mind. Who can blame him? He has had to stand there every game, all game, watching some really horrible baseball from his World Champion team, and just trying to find the right buttons to push. As for Sabean buying, of course he should, but not just to improve the team for this year; obviously the team as currently set is likely going to need an upgrade for beyond this year too. Which is why I don’t think he’ll panic and do something stupid just to keep in the hunt this year. Hard to believe this team has won, what, 5 games in the last 22 or something like that… That’s not a slump, that’s horrible. No one knows it more than Sabean and Bochy. Let’s see what they do. In the meantime, nothing will help team spirit more than beating the Mets. And scoring more than 1 or 2 runs a game… party on, guys…
Wrong place, I moved my reply to Flavor to beneath his post