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2013 Roberto Clemente Award

Posted in Uncategorized by twinfan1 on October 26, 2013

Winner is Carlos Beltran.

“Beltran continued to operate the Carlos Beltran Baseball Academy in Puerto Rico — which he established in 2011 with $3 million of his own money. The Academy offers high-quality education and athletic experiences for youth that otherwise wouldn’t get those opportunities. He even flew back this past summer on an off-day to congratulate the first graduating class.

That isn’t all, though. Beltran also raised $160,000 for the Carlos Beltran Foundation with his Night in Old San Juan Gala. The Foundation gives money to local St. Louis charities and helps to continue to fund the Academy. He also has a “Beltran’s Buddies” program to benefit underprivileged youth in the St. Louis area.

The first winner of the award in 1971 was Willie Mays — at the time it was called the Commissioner’s Award. In 1973, the award renamed to honor Clemente. Clayton Kershaw won the award last season. Some other past winners include David Ortiz, Derek Jeter and Albert Pujols. A litany of Hall of Famers have also won.”


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  1. twinfan1 said, on October 26, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    i copied and pasted the info on beltran winning the award. mainly i wanted to get past the ‘race to save face’ thread. zito was a nominee for the award. ‘strikeouts for troops’ is a national non-profit organization founded by zito.here are some of the players participating
    strikeouts for troops supports our injured american service members and their families at a critical time in their lives.


  2. Rooster said, on October 26, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    Obstruction! Good call!

  3. Macdog said, on October 26, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    Lost in all of this obstruction controversy is what a colossally stupid throw that was by Saltalamacchia.

    • zumiee said, on October 26, 2013 at 11:19 pm

      2nd game in a row the Sox lost on a boneheaded throw to thirdbase. That’s the same kind of ol’ “fishing where there isn’t any fish,” trying-to-make-a-play-that-isn’t-there that leads to a crappy play that also hurt the Giants early in 2013.

  4. zumiee said, on October 26, 2013 at 11:23 pm

    Great college football game going on, Fresno St. vs. San Diego St. It’s going to overtime! It’s on one of the ESPN channels.

    • zumiee said, on October 26, 2013 at 11:24 pm

      Stanford game had a thrilling finish. Stanford eeks out the win, stays undefeated.
      Fresno St. is trying to stay undefeated.

      • salty said, on October 27, 2013 at 12:42 am

        Stanford has a loss to Utah.

      • willedav said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:27 am

        Utah has since lost to AZ and SC since then, which makes the L look worse.
        They didn’t exactly close this out well, since last two possessions were fumble and 3 and out. First down or two and Mannion doesn’t have a chance to get as close as he did.
        watching Hogan I just don’t think he can beat a BCS champ team. Maybe their D can hold Oregon down, but he isn’t good enough to win a game passing by scoring points. Any really good team can shut down running game.

  5. zumiee said, on October 26, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    Fresno St. won. And Dave Fleming with the play by play. He did a nice job.

    • chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:16 pm

      Fleming does quite a bit of college FB play-by-play. I think he does a pretty good job.

  6. salty said, on October 27, 2013 at 12:46 am

    My 33 looking very shaky. Didn’t expect such poor defense.

  7. Nipper said, on October 27, 2013 at 4:37 am

    Cardinals should send the Sox a couple of kegs of Bud with a big thank you note. And a polite request to drink up before the next game.

  8. blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 8:15 am

    Twin, thanks for the keyboard. I sent you an email a few minutes ago . . .

    • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:10 am

      good morning. to answer a couple of your questions- it’s not wireless, it ‘s usb. if you prefer the flash drive, no problem, i had two. kevin can take the keyboard if he wants it or he can also take the drive. i’ll just do something else with the keyboard if that’s the case.
      it’s too bad the consolation contest didn’t work out. i thought it would be fun.

      • blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:07 am

        Hi Mike, I will go with the flash drive. I don’t have one and this will come in handy . . . My existing keyboard is fairly sophisticated. Also, the Logitech color (white keys) doesn’t match the color of the PC speed burner I previously won via one of your contests. Again, thanks.

  9. Alleykat said, on October 27, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Willie “Pops” Stargell is the only Pittsburgh Pirate to win the Clemente Award back in 1974.
    Good choice with Beltran,though McCutchon was worthy as well.
    Sure liked seeing former Giant CF Garry Maddox on the list winning in 1986 for the Phil’s.McCutch reminds me so much of Maddox especially with the glove and speed.Bat goes to McCutch everything else equal IMO.

  10. willedav said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:41 am

    I always wonder as a confirmed cynic how much good these charitable foundations really do, and if they are in fact more often than not tax dodges and photo ops, with salaries paid to friends and family eating up the $$$. And I’m not casting aspersions on Beltran or anyone else I don’t know.
    there was some evidence of this in Eastern stars book about life in san pedro de macoris for former DR stars given use of land and property for their *foundations*.
    But I really do applaud what Zito is doing. A relative of mine works for the VA, which is a quagmire of ossification and paperwork. America’s lack of treatment and care for its vets, most recent ones and others, is truly disgusting and woefully inefficient.
    Regardless of how you feel about sending troops overseas for whatever reason, taking care of those in need when they return is very poorly managed.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:53 am

      we don’t know any more about zito’s cause than we do of beltran’s. i applaud both until i know of any impropriety by either one.

  11. twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:48 am

    the obstruction rule is a bad one, imo. in this case it was like the nfl play where the intended pass receiver and the defender get their feet tangled inadvertantly so there is no penalty. the sequence was actually begun when craig accidentally tripped middlebrooks as he was sliding into third. that *has* be considered when determining whether the fielder obstructed the runner. not a bad call, but an imperfect rule that should be tweaked to allow for a circumstance where the runner contributed to the obstruction.

  12. twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 10:25 am

    besides the baseball academy in puerto rico, beltran helps underprivileged youth in st. louis. i know that willie was not charging beltran with any impropriety in regards to his charitable work. but as i said, zito and beltran should both applauded for their good works, not one or the other.

    • willedav said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:17 am

      The recent focus on govt. shutdown by those opposed to O-care serves as a reminder to how poorly America handles health care for all, vets included. A nation as developed as ours, this is a black eye. I think the cause Zito (and others) has taken up is a special one so that’s why I chose to post about it. I think it’s unfortunate e as a nation are unwilling/unable to do better for those men and women who have served.
      I know those who find better care at a better price and travel to Taiwan (they were born there) for medical issues. I’m also aware of health care policies of Finland by a co-worker who grew up there, where there are options for all of its citizens for life. Yes their taxes are high but govt. provides many benefits for its residents that do not exist here.
      No system is perfect, but I think there are many things Americans could learn from other countries.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:53 am

        i do wish there was some way for barry to disavow any association by alex rodriguez ( alex is one of the players involved with ‘strikeouts for troops’ ) in light of the scandal involving his ‘A-Rod Family Foundation’ which allegedly only gave $5,090 of the $403,862 he raised for charity to the charity.

  13. Irish Kevin said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:01 am

    Thank you twin, it will be put to good use!!

    • blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:09 am

      Kevin, see my message response above regarding the keyboard, i.e., you are welcome to select that prize if you want.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:23 am

        i also let kevin know about that. there were 2 flash drives, so kevin can choose either the drive or the keyboard.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 12:25 pm

        i forget what film it was, but it was set in the present day. the feds were closing in on a nefarious scheme by a day trading firm. the boss tells one of the guys to ‘quick, back up the hard drive to floppy’..floppy? right…

      • Irish Kevin said, on October 27, 2013 at 6:23 pm

        Twin I will take the key board, thank you twin and thank you Blade. You guys are the greatest

      • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 6:30 pm

        cool, i can use the other flash drive. there’s still the surprise prize- somebody is getting it , i’m just going select the lucky son of a bitch.

      • blade3colorado said, on October 28, 2013 at 8:09 am

        Is that the “Hair in a can?” I may look like I need it, but I’ll pass. 😉

  14. blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:32 am

    The flash drive will come in handy. Too bad I still don’t work for the government, i.e., perfect device for copying secret documents. :O)

    • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:42 am

      both gifts will be out by the middle of the week. update on latest mri:

      • blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:47 am

        Quite cool Mike. Congratulations on the excellent news from your physician. See if he can work any magic with the Giants next season, e.g, fix Timmy’s arm, so his velocity comes back to 94-95 MPH.

      • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 1:27 pm

        dr. sneed is a ‘she’…. i’m going to insist on woman doctors from now on. the neurosurgeon was a male doctor but other than him, all of the males i’ve encountered have been idiots or ‘me God’ types. even my neurosurgeon made a major screw up when he took out dead tissue instead of the tumor and had to go back in the next day ( that was 2011, the first craniotomy). one can’t imagine how it feels to lay in the icu and have the surgeon inform you that he has to cut a flap off of your frigging head again in 12 hours. i almost said to forget it but of course there really wasn’t any choice.

      • chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:23 pm

        Awesome news on the MRI, Michael. So happy for you.

    • chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:21 pm

      Maybe at the Bureau, Blade, but the Air Force quit allowing the use on thumb drives about 10 years ago. I can see it coming to the Department of Energy, too.

      • blade3colorado said, on October 28, 2013 at 8:11 am

        By the by Chi, I was looking at your Facebook profile and I had no idea that you worked for WAPA (or I forgot). Lots of involvement with them, especially when I was the safety and health manager at Shasta Dam.

  15. James said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:40 am

    A couple of further thoughts on the obstruction call. This never gets called at second base when an IFer lands on a runner who might otherwise be able to advance. I also wonder if it would have been called if Craig had retreated to third.

  16. James said, on October 27, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Lou Reed, RIP. I haven’t listened to “Pale Blue Eyes” in a while.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 12:08 pm

      Yeah, I use to listen to him all the time when he was with the Velvet Underground and later, in his solo career. One of the best live concert songs of his, was Sweet Jane.

      • James said, on October 27, 2013 at 12:26 pm

        The Steve Hunter/Dick Wagner twin guitar attack was how he gained teen cred in the mid 70s, but the gorgeous pop tunes with the slice of the demi monde life lyrics are what set him apart:

      • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 2:54 pm

        i love this quote from brian eno: “The first Velvet Underground album only sold 10,000 copies, but everyone who bought it formed a band.”

  17. blade3colorado said, on October 27, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Calvin Johnson 329 yards. Unbelievable.

  18. zumiee said, on October 27, 2013 at 3:24 pm

    Sheesh, if I’d known Stanford has already lost a game, I wouldn’t have been as nervous at the end of the game last night. 🙂
    Lou Reed…..hugely influential, of course. I see him as being kind of like Buddy Holly. Holly more or less invented the “rock band.” And Reed more or less invented the “alternative rock band.” You wouldn’t have to tell Paul McCartney and John Lennon, and a zillion other people in ’60s bands, what a big influence Buddy Holly was, and you wouldn’t need to tell the guys in U2, REM, and a zillion other bands how important Reed was.
    REM was able to repay the “debt” in the late ’80s; they released an album of cover versions and b-sides which included 3 Lou Reed songs. That was a nice paycheck for Reed. And lots of other folks have covered some of his songs.

    • blade3colorado said, on October 28, 2013 at 8:15 am

      Ironically, Lou Reed really disliked the alternative genre (at least at first, when he was mentioned as a precursor to this genre).

  19. zumiee said, on October 27, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    I originally got one of those REM covers of Lou Reed (“Femme Fatale”) from a magazine. I didn’t order it from the magazine, it was IN the magazine. It was one of those thin plastic flexi-disc 45s that were awesomely cool and actually worked on a record player (most of the time.) I don’t have that flexi-disc anymore; I gave it to someone at some point.
    Here’s REM performing “Pale Blue Eyes,” and looking ridiculously young:

  20. paulinasia said, on October 27, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Interesting topics today/tonight. Health care: Willie, one of the business classes I have taught over here is called “Medical Tourism”, which is largely about no matter what your insurance situation is in the US and even other western countries, if you have something major to take care of, it would be way cheaper (and in most cases better) to head to Asia and just pay cash, forget about insurance. Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines, Taiwan.. um, not China, if I get really sick while living here, I’m on the first plane, train, boat, or truck to Bangkok… Agree, Michael, I haven’t had a male doctor in many years. And, Lou Reed, damn, another master departs. Go Giants! Oh, wait…. that was last year at this time (and hopefully next)…

  21. James said, on October 27, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Re health care, how about a stand up to the right wing plutrasheoisie campaign?

    • paulinasia said, on October 27, 2013 at 7:46 pm

      Sign me up, James…

    • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:06 pm

      whatever the hell that is, i’m in. uh- what is it? no one will come to get me if i sign up, will they? like, you know, texans…

  22. chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Cool thread Michael. I didn’t know any of this stuff about Beltran…class dude.

    Glad to see the Sox even the series, and Petaluma’s finest with the game winning HR (his first hit in the WS).

    Also liking how the runs scored are trending (30 through four games).

    • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:17 pm

      you need sox in 7, right?

      • chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:26 pm

        Yep…Sox in Seven.

  23. chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    Even if the Sox win in 7 and it goes to the tie-breaker, it is going to be tough to beat Denny’s run total (unless the last three games are all high scoring affairs). I am just happy to see some closely contested games. Boston needs to pull their heads outta their asses on D. Some STOOPID ASSED throws have cost them in two games.

    • twinfan1 said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:36 pm

      54 and above and you would win the breaker. they’re on pace for 52.5 if it goes 7. could be a nail bitter.

      • chipower9 said, on October 27, 2013 at 10:24 pm

        Yep…I’ve been checking on the pace after each game.

      • blade3colorado said, on October 28, 2013 at 8:13 am

        My 55 will nail it. 🙂

  24. Macdog said, on October 27, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Another bizarro finish: Wong picked off 1st base with the Cards down 4-2 and Beltran at the plate to end Game 4. And these are the two best teams in baseball.

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