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The Posting Fee

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 9, 2013

I admit to not understanding all the in’s and out’s of the posting fee and the exclusive rights to negotiate with a Japanese baseball player. But wouldn’t it make sense for the Giants to try to win the posting fee at the very least? Then if they can’t come to an agreement with Tanaka at least he doesn’t end up with the Art Dealers. It would be like putting in a claim for a player just to block him from going to another contender.

And I don’t want Tanaka, I think the risk is far too great for what the cost would be.

But I also don’t want to see him playing for Lower California.

Thoughts?

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  1. willedav said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:13 am

    Zero reason not to go after this guy. He could be better than Yu Darvish, who is pretty dang good and would look great at top of anyone’s rotation. I don’t want to hear SF couldn’t afford him, total FUBAR.
    It’s less about blocking LA than improving your SPs to compete with them. Their 3 top guys Kershaw Cranky and Ryu were as good or better than Bum…and SF’s next best 2 were blown away by what LA has.
    There’s *risk* with any FA and don’t forget that SF won 2 WS with the albatross of Zito contract.

  2. Bozo said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Baggs wrote an article about the pros and cons the other day that I thought was interesting. Number 5 on the Pro list was keeping Tanaka away from LA.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/pros-and-cons-should-giants-go-after-masahiro-tanaka

    This article and answers from Baggs chat from a few days ago makes me think the Giants are in play for Tanaka and maybe more than one would think.

  3. twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:54 am

    Well, with the absurd asking prices for ESantana, Nolasco, and others-no doubt emboldened at least in part by our wild overpay of Lincecum, Tanaka will be a bargain.BTW, I like both of those guys- but Santana has been too inconsistent to warrant 20 mill a year and Nolasco has had one good year in the last 5. Even though the good year was this year, his asking is way out of line. 3 years, 12 per year. Club option 4th year. Nolasco, Haren, Kazmir, Arroyo are all acceptable options- in fact there are a boatload of guys of the 3/4 level, Sabean could go for the cheapest of the several options- but I still think we need two starters, one being at least a #2. Of the free agents that means Tanaka. Trading for Price or similar should be a last resort- but we’re not competing with the Bums without a guy who can be the two if Cain doesn’t return to 2012 form. IMO.
    Good morning Willie and you goldurn clown..

  4. willedav said, on November 9, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Jimmer Fredette…I had grave misgivings about this guy despite his glowing college numbers, as I think I told Blade when he was first drafted. He was gonna have to learn to play without the ball, as opposed to how he played in college. Being on the floor with 4 other guys who demand the ball (life in the nba), esp a guy like cousins who will be a focus of the offense, was going to be an adjustment. Other Kings Gs are faster and can penetrate better.
    He could develop into another JJ Redick in best case scenario, deadeye shooting guard I was surprised has thrived in NBA, but there is also the other end of the court to contend with. Fredette is really slow and if he has to defend other shooting Gs is going to be targeted by skilled players looking for easy money.
    Good to see college b-ball season off and rolling, even if there are way too many cupcake games such as Cal vs. Coppin st. Cal’s inside game will need some help, but J Bird and the Gs looked great.
    Stanford scheduled pretty tough opponent (28 Ws last year) and had to strain. Powell looked really improved and A Brown will be a big help; A Bright I dunno. I hope they do well, front line is tougher and Dawkins survives; a lot of alumni and fans can’t stand him. Apparently he has good recruiting class coming in–I think that’s been his biggest downfall, not bringing in enough talent to be as successful as Monty was.

  5. blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 9:12 am

    John, I read the same article and was especially intrigued by this excerpt, “If the Abreu pursuit proves anything, though, it’s that the Giants didn’t exhaust their coffers when they brought back Tim Lincecum for two years and $35 million. They plan to spend money to find a right-handed hitter, preferably in left field, and address the two vacancies in their rotation.”

    Up until now, I had been fairly convinced the Giants would NOT make a splurge in the free agent market, except for the bargain bin “dollar store” variety. Similarly, it didn’t sound like Sabes was going to do any type of trades, certainly none that would be considered a mega block buster trade. I still feel that way in part . . . However, the excerpt above, especially the point about the Giants apparently giving a better than fair to middling pursuit of Abreu, makes me wonder . . . It also makes me wonder about Baggs comment regarding a right handed hitter (left fielder preferably).

    I have NO interest in Nolasco, Arroyo, Hudson or Haren. I initiated the talk about Kazmir and I continue to find him intriguing, as I think he has the stuff to be a number 2 (albeit, it’s more likely a 3/4). In my opinion, the Giants don’t compete with the Bums next season, unless one of two things happen: 1. We get someone like Tanaka, Price or minimally, Kazmir, and address/upgrade our hitting; or, 2. A meteor wipes out Los Angeles.

  6. twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Baseball Prospectus also has their best 50 free agents list. They have Nolasco and Byrd going to the Giants. I think they’ll get a pitcher who they can sign for 2 years- Arroyo or Haren being the most likely. And I agree with Byrd. I like Kazmir and he represents perhaps the most upside of the 3/4 guys, but also a higher risk. So after much hemming and hawing, I’m back to Arroyo for two years plus that 1/2 guy that I think they have to have. As to Byrd- I really believe it’s one of four options:
    1.Byrd
    2. Bring in a couple fallen angels like Bay on minor league deals
    3. Blanco/ Perez
    4. All 3 above options
    For the life of me, I can’t figure out why anyone thinks Blanco is going anywhere. At worst, he’s a very good 4th outfielder. Unless one is a Dinger Queen, the guy is a *very* valuable outfielder. At best- he’s a fine left fielder and a solid OBP guy. ( actually, CFer but I guess Pagan can’t be budged).

  7. blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 10:12 am

    Mike, thanks for sharing Baseball Prospectus 50 Best Free Agents. I scrolled through the list to see who they predicted the Giants would go after. OH OH! Frankly, none of these predictions make sense. Umm, I am wondering if they loaded Baseball Prospectus 2.0 Prediction software upgrade before spitting out these “shit and giggle” predicitions????? Anywho, the predictions aside – the info on the rankings of the Top 50 free agents is good stuff.

    12. Carlos Beltran

    Position: OF
    DOB: 4/24/1977
    Height/Weight: 6’1″ 210 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: S/R
    2011-2013 Averages: .288/.356/.503
    Observations: Beltran continues to be an effective player late in his career. He’s a switch-hitter, but he gets better results from the left side, and his walk rate against southpaws dipped to 4.1 percent last season. Admittedly, Beltran’s injury report is full with small nicks, yet he hasn’t made a trip to the disabled list since 2011. Whether teams view Beltran as a corner outfielder or designated hitter, his bat is the key to his vitality. If he continues to produce like 2013, he’s going to be around for a while longer.
    Prediction: Cardinals. Beltran still fits the Cardinals like a glove, and allows them to keep Oscar Taveras in the minors a little longer.
    Random Number Generator’s Prediction: Giants

    22. Grant Balfour

    Position: RP
    DOB: 12/30/1977
    Height/Weight: 6’2″ 200 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    2011-2013 Averages: 66 IP, 2.53 ERA, 2.71 SO/BB
    Observations: The foul-mouthed Australian hits the open market after securing 62 saves since the start of the 2012 season. He rides two pitches: a mid-90s fastball and an upper-80s slider; he’ll also break out a curveball against left-handed batters. His extreme fly-ball tendencies result in a fair amount of home runs that, when bundled with his control woes, make him a less-than-ideal closer. Still, the stuff is high quality and he’s bound to take over the ninth inning for someone.
    Prediction: Rangers. Texas’ Joe Nathan replacement probably comes internally, but Balfour needs a landing spot.
    Random Number Generator’s Prediction: Giants

    27. A.J. Pierzynski

    Position: C
    DOB: 12/30/1976
    Height/Weight: 6’3″ 235 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: L/R
    2011-2013 Averages: .279/.315/.444
    Observations: Pierzynski isn’t here for his defense. He’s the worst receiver on the list and doesn’t have a cannon for an arm. He makes up for those negatives by providing offensive and qualitative value. A late-career power surge combined with his tendency to post solid averages overshadows an aggressive approach at the plate. Pierzynski likes to pull the ball and has a sizable platoon split, yet neither has stopped him thus far. The antagonistic stuff isn’t for everyone, and his age makes him an attrition risk, but his teammates tend to speak well of him. Catchers who can handle the bat and the staff are always in demand.
    Prediction: Rays. Tampa Bay will need a new veteran backstop in place of Jose Molina. Pierzynski has lobbied the Rays to sign him before.
    Random Number Generator’s Prediction: Giants

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 10:38 am

      Those were not BP’s picks, Steve. Their picks were Nolasco and Byrd.
      “The predictions are total guesswork, and to drill that point home I’ve included predictions made by a random number generator”

      • blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 10:52 am

        Yes, I know that . . . Thus, my sarcastic remark about “Baseball Prospectus 2.0 Prediction software upgrade.”

      • blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 11:20 am

        Twin, do you have a monochrome laser printer? If so, how do you like it and do the toner cartridges significantly last longer than ink cartridges? I was in Costco last week to purchase HP color/black cartridges for my inkjet printer and about lost my cookies when I saw the price . . . Fast forward a couple of days later, I ordered a Canon Laser image CLASS MF4770n Monochrome Printer with Scanner, Copier and Fax for under $120.

      • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 12:28 pm

        Second question first: I’ve never owned a laser printer. I have an HP inkjet All-in-One and a stand alone Brother Fax machine. I don’t print much anymore- grocery lists and Emails is about it. It sounds like you got a good Laser printer at a good price though…
        The reason I thought that you missed the BP predictions was because you didn’t mention them at all. As you know, these are who they think we’ll take, not their recommendations. What do you think as to who we’ll get, not who you want. I waver on this, but I think they might get TWO 3/4s and Byrd. And I think they’d get two who can be signed for 2 years or 3 at most. So we narrow the list to Arroyo, Haren, Hudson, Kazmir, and really even more- Maholm, Feldman, and maybe a long shot-Suk-min Yoon. This where the the quanity lies this winter, and I can definitely see Sabean going that way- reliability in Arroyo, upside w/Kazmir or Haren, something like that. I know I leave out Nolasco although he’d likely fit well here- but he’ll just be way too expensive.

  8. Bozo said, on November 9, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Of our AFL guys, Derek Law is kicking some serious butt. The RH RP has been in 10 games, 11.1 innings, 0.00 ERA, 6BB and 14 Ks. “He’s downhill with funk and finish, and his breaking ball is filthy,” said an NL pro scout. Man, if I was that kid, I’d frame that quote and hang it in my living room.

    Afternoon twin (I missed the AM greetings).

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 12:29 pm

      I’ve been watching Law as well- he wasn’t thought of much when he was drafted but he’s getting some serious looks now.

  9. Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    this is what I said a month or 2 ago.
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/choo-seeking-to-exceed-werths-126mm-contract.html

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      I like Choo, he was on my “I’m always dreamin'” list and I think his hitting style would fit well here. But that’s serious coin. Which he’ll probably get somewhere other than here. BF, what’s your take on what he’ll get and from what team? I’ll go with BP- Mets. They’ll be making noise in 2014.

      • Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 1:34 pm

        I’ll have to look at my prediction list (I’m at gym now). I forget where I had him going.
        But after Pence got his deal, and I said it at the time, Choo jizzed in his pants.

      • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 1:49 pm

        I remember you saying something like that, I’m not disputing that you said it and I agree. When Pence signed that early for those bucks, it was bound to affect the market. Who would you rather have given one or the other- Choo or Pence. I’d take Hunter.

  10. twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Looking at Baggerly’s chat, he thinks we’ll push for Tanaka and maybe either Haren or Arroyo. He also seems to think that they’ll go after a RH bat with some power to platoon with Blanco. And he says Bochy LOVES McCann and will push for him and while he still sees it as unlikely and it would mean shifting Posey to play first base and Brandon Belt to play left field, he also feels they’ve thought about it and that McCann might be the only FA they’d be willing to give up the draft pick for( heck of a tortured sentence there ). He also likes Skip Schumaker off the bench, thinks Abreu might be a non-tender, Derek Law is T and A all the way, Villalona is Wily No Mo Pena, Escobar, of our young starters, is closet to the bigs, Hembree is no lock to open the season in the bigs ( option stuff), Choo is a “supplemental player”, and more….lots to muse about…
    http://tinyurl.com/mfk9evl

    • Bozo said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:01 pm

      His chat is what made me take notice of Law (haven’t been following the AFL at all). I love scout speak, I wish we heard more of it from the beat guys.

      • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:10 pm

        Thank God you said something, Bozo. I was talking to myself again.

    • snarkk said, on November 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm

      I mentioned before I don’t see how McCann, a LH hitter with some power, makes much sense at ATT, and weakening 3 positions defensively in doing it…

  11. blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Twin, in regard to your 12:28pm . . .

    First, I am on the fence or “waver” as you said, with regard to the direction Sabean and ownership will go. Frankly, I was absolutely shocked by the column Baggarly wrote (the one Bozo cited). Speaking of Jizz – Flavor’s earlier post about Choo – I about jizzed all over myself when I heard the Giants may be willing to submit a “posting fee” for Odd Job (i.e., Tanaka. Sorry, I am not being racist, but every time I hear that name, I think of Odd Job, played by Harold Sakata). For the Giants to submit this amount of money, just for the opportunity to chat with him about signing – well, let’s just say that this isn’t your daddy’s Giants.

    Anywho, in answer to your question. Yeah, I can see them settling with Byrd and a Nolasco type innings eater. Ugh. However, let’s be realistic. By all measures, Byrd is a platoon player and he will split time with Blanco. Nolasco had his one big season and I personally think he is Zito 2.0. Shit, why pay him the amount of money he is undoubtedly going to ask for? Why not go with a risky and much cheaper, but possibly higher return pitcher, like Kazmir? Couple Kazmir, with “Odd Job” and we have a better than equal chance of matching the Dodgers pitching staff.

    Back to Byrd – I think we saw the best of Byrd last season. At 36, I DO NOT WANT HIM ON THE GIANTS. Let’s think outside the box and get someone like Loney (where we can move Belt to left field); or, get someone that is versatile like Kelly Johnson. As noted in Prospectus, Kelly played 4 positions last season, including SS. Johnson was a very good player before last season and will not cost a lot. Sheesh, both of these guys will be relatively inexpensive.

    • blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:16 pm

      Also on my “realistic” wish list – Corey Hart. Per BP, he is willing to give the Brewers a home town discount. My type of reasonable ball player.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:45 pm

      Steve- Well, first, I don’t think it would be Nolasco and didn’t say that IO would do it- at a minimum 4 years, 52-56 mill, I don’t see it. I can see Byrd and I have no problem at all with Blanco/Byrd. None.Or with Blanco/Perez. Rebuild the rotation- I’m fine with your guy Kazmir, I just don’t see any talk of him at all. Besides Nolasco it’s been Arroyo and Haren and I think one or both of the latter two will be here. I’m just not sure that they can get Tanaka but think they’ll try. Haren is looking more and more possible because it’s thought he can be had on a 1-year deal- performance wise, as has been said, his peripherals were better than his record would indicate. If they struck out on a 1 or 2, I would be OK with Arroyo and Haren- or Kazmir. Or… as I said there’s a deep group of 3,4,5 guys- and decent quality.
      You said to be realistic- I think I am. I’d be absolutely shocked if they signed a big bucks LFer- Byrd, Young, Bay, Blanco, Perez, Peguero, Kieschnick – that’s the group, or similar, where I think the LFer and two reserves will come from. Then I think they get two starting pitchers( Either Tanaka and one of the group we’ve talked about or two of the former) and a utility infielder.And they re-sign Lopez. Vogie only stays as a last resort.

      • blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:15 pm

        Yes, you are being realistic and frankly, other than the Baggarly comments from Bozo’s article and the “Q and A” you provided, I have no realistic hope that the Giants will surprise me this year insofar as acquisitions via trade or free agency. Sigh . . .

  12. Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:28 pm

    Twin– I’d much rather have Hunter. As you noted once, he’s proven he can hit at AT&T. I’m not interested in spending 100+ mil to find out if Choo can do it.
    And I am 100% against a Byrd signing. The dude cycled up for the 2nd half of last year– let someone else pay him for whatever he does off the juice.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:10 pm

      Well- realistically- who do they get if not Byrd? Or a reclamation project. I can see Belt to LF and signing a first baseman more than I can see McCann and moving Posey to first. But I still think it will be Byrd, bargain basement, or a Blanco/? platoon.
      BTW, I don’t *want* Belt in LF, I can see it happening, though. And if they are just going for offense, that’s the best option. And in any case he’d see a lot of time at first base.

      • blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:13 pm

        The Bochy comments about McCann are encouraging . . . I could buy into that scenario easy versus the reality (night mare IMO) of Byrd.

  13. blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Twin, thanks for the Baggarly chat link. I totally agree with him on this question and answer regarding Panda:

    11:01
    Comment From Sean
    Has there been any talk of moving Buster to 3B and keeping Belt in LF. That would be the writing on the wall for KF Panda in 2015.

    11:02
    Andrew Baggarly: Pretty tough to have three guys changing positions at once. But I think this season will be it for Sandoval either way. The Giants just can’t trust him to stay fit, no matter what he does this coming season.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 3:57 pm

      He said more than that, in particular that the talk of trading him this year is unlikely. And that Sabean likes guys in their walk years. They want to get the most out of him. But I don’t disagree that he might move on. But they don’t have a replacement- and that includes Posey, he’s not the guy who could play the infield in college. To replace Sandoval will not be cheap- even a guy with Panda’s 2013 numbers costs real money. Sorry, Arias people- you must be kidding (as a regular)..

      • blade3colorado said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:12 pm

        Yes, read that as well and agree that Sabes should squeeze the “walk year” out of him and then say adios. No problem with that. We can worry about replacing him when that happens . . . As Baggs said, “The Giants just can’t trust him to stay fit, no matter what he does this coming season.”

      • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:32 pm

        They may not trust him, but it will still be a, uh, a huge decision to make if he has a big year. They do need a realistic option to replace him if they let him walk. This is a guy who in what nearly everyone agrees was a bad year was still the 5th best offensive 3rd baseman in the NL- across the board. Yes, I’m a Pablo “apologist”. I love the guy. I can’t be talked out of it.

  14. twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    I don’t know why I’ve been such a Chatty Cathy lately, sorry if it’s bugging anybody. But these are just my opinions- all 2300 of them…
    I’ve also been on a house cleaning binge. I’ve turned into my Mother…

  15. Alleykat said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Well I’m totally with Willie’s 7:13 post.
    Time for the Giants to shit or get off the pot involving Tanaka.We have to go after this guy!!!
    And if Howie Kendricks comes up in trade talks this winter( said to be available )the Giants should get involved. Guarantee Scoots will not hold up.
    And I’m still putting Matt Dominquez on my trade for list for 3B.
    Yes Twin, OBP,Avg whatever.He’s a young player just starting and will only improve on his stats.22 bombs 88 RBI’S. solid D on a Shitty Stros team speaks volumes. _

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 4:38 pm

      Put him on the list, Kat- but he ain’t coming here. Neither is Kendricks- they need somebody to back up Scooter, not replace him.
      But I agree with you on Tanaka – and I’m sure there is something else we agree on- give me a week or so to think about it 😉

  16. zumiee said, on November 9, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    Crick looked good yesterday. His change-up was very effective. It had good dip to it. I can see why people get excited about him.

  17. twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    How about a Hot Stove prediction contest? No prize unless Craig wants to do something. Just bragging rights.
    Just to make it easy- who do we sign? Including our guys. Here’s my final list- maybe..
    Pitchers- Arroyo and Haren, plus Lopez.
    Utility infielder- I’ll go with Baggs on this-Skip Schumaker
    Left Field- Byrd but , and I’m not sure why- I think Chris Young may like AT&T. But it’s Byrd and Jason Bay on an invite.
    I’ve done dream lists, of those, my most likely surprise signings are Tanaka and McCann. And Ubaldo, Craig convinced me.
    My no! no! no! list- Garza, Blade convinced me on that one. And I don’t want Mijares, but can his girlfriend stay?

    • Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 6:02 pm

      yeah, that’s a great idea. I’ll kick it around tonight, try to get it out tomorrow (though I am heavily consumed with fantasy football at Fanduel these days and tomorrow is a big, big day. I’m not working Mon, I’ll come up with something for sure by then

  18. zumiee said, on November 9, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    (face palm)
    LSU fullback fumbles at the goal line trying to straight-arm somebody. You’re a FULLBACK. Keep both hands on the ball and just barrel into the endzone. OK, no one ever said football players are Einsteins, but still….

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm

      Brings to mind the infamously funny Joe Theismann quote. “Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein.”

    • Nipper said, on November 9, 2013 at 6:02 pm

      Zumiee is so demanding.

    • Bozo said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:30 pm

      This LSU/Bama game is fucking nuts.

  19. twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    CK and Cam Newton tomorrow- should be a good one. Alex’s guys are off this week- they’ve hit my 9 win prediction already. I think they’ll lose 3 or 4 of the last 7. So they’ll probably be a WC at 12-4 or 13-3. Tough.

    • Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis) said, on November 9, 2013 at 6:56 pm

      Worst 9-0 team in the history of the NFL. Teams they’ve beat have a combined record of 28-49 (.363).
      Don’t even get me started with Alex’s numbers…

      • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:01 pm

        You’re off to a horseshit start in your return.

      • Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis) said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:08 pm

        The truth hurts. I’m just trying to emulate Aunt Esther and set myself free.
        You old fish-eyed fool.

      • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:21 pm

        9-0 is what hurts, pal.

      • Bozo said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:35 pm

        Even the Coach is talking playoffs here. The one thing I’m loving about this game, it has to be televised back here. It just has to right? I mean, I understand when they show the Ravens or Skins, but Dallas?

  20. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis) said, on November 9, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    You know who we should sign this offseason? A pharmacist. Fans will need to be heavily medicated to help cope with the realization that we’ll be finishing 5-10 GB of the Dodgers each year for the foreseeable future.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 6:55 pm

      Gee, and here I went and put Giants on your desktop and screensaver.

  21. Del Mar Dennis (@DelMarDennis) said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:15 pm

    I’m heading down the street to Foster Freeze for a shake. I remember when I was knee-high to a grasshopper they used to make sundaes in little plastic baseball helmets. I used to have the whole collection. They’d quickly run out of Giant helmets. I remember getting stuck with a bunch of Toronto Blue Jays. Goddamn Canadians.

  22. Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    and Denny, you are free to visit any topic you like here except the one that got you banned. Shoot the Alex Smith stuff to your twitter account. By the way you seem to be a little more lenient on twitter when it comes to your typical hate-targets like Smith. You sling some shit his way but the frequency and volume isn’t there, it’s not ad nauseam, boring as hell and non-stop like it is at the blogs. I’ve always been curious why you put the breaks on your Smith-hate posts when it comes to twitter. Too many followers you don’t want to piss off? Seriously, do tell…..

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:06 pm

      I shouldn’t have mentioned Alex. I told Denny in an Email that he hadn’t played all that well but I don’t talk about him much- he’s not our QB anymore. Better for everybody – but I doubt that a QB on a 9-0 team is real worried about criticism.

  23. Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    Regarding the Niner/Carolina game, I am super excited to see this unfold. I don’t feel like the NIners are totally legit right now despite pummeling inferior opponents. And I kinda feel the same way about Carolina. Is the Car D legit? We’ll see. And Cam is someone I always mocked because he was a tool but his physical skills are undeniable. And don’t look now, but Ted Ginn decided to start learning how to be a receiver. My prediction for that game is that he scores a td (receiving/special teams) and maybe 2. Don’t say I didn’t warn ya….

    • Bozo said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:04 pm

      Man, they are talking some shit around these parts. They must have put their Raven/Skins gear up with their Halloween costumes, before hitting up the local Walmart for Panthers crap.

      Fuck Carolina and their run D with a Candlestick. That’s what, I’m talking A bout.

  24. unca_chuck said, on November 9, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Shit, Twin, yer on a roll.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:16 pm

      I know- Merna, Zeke, and Mickey are plotting an intervention. They think I’m taking greenies.

    • twinfan1 said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:26 pm

      And with that- night all.

      • Flavor said, on November 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm

        talk to you later, twin


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