Looking at WAR Unlike The Way Bill James Might Look at It

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 25, 2014

WAR is one of those stats I observe but don’t really use to evaluate a player. For starters, it factors in defense and that’s not really on my radar when it comes to building daily fantasy teams. Secondly, I don’t understand how to calculate it and that’s another reason I’m probably cooled to it. Thirdly, what I do know about it I don’t like since I think it emphasizes defense too heavily and I think the sabermetric community has a LONG way to go when it comes to perfecting defensive metrics.

As I drove into work this morning, I was thinking about Pagan and his obvious impact on the team (both when he plays and when he doesn’t). Is there a player out there who defines “replacement player” better than Gregor Blanco? I decided to look up their WAR numbers and see how they compare. For those of you who know nothing about WAR, consider this: The WAR number tries to quantify how many wins a player is worth to his team when compared to a replacement player (ie, someone from the bench or the minor leagues).

In 2013, Blanco’s WAR was 2.8. Pagan’s was 1.3. In 2014, Blanco’s WAR is 0.4, Pagan’s in 1.7.

And then I looked at the wild splits the Giants have the last 2 years with Pagan in the line up and without him in the line up. And that’s actually a lie, I didn’t look it up. But I know the Giants are like 20 games over .500 with him in the LU, and significantly under .500 when he’s not in the line up.

So I’m gonna take the liberty and adjust Pagan’s WAR from it’s current 1.7 and bump it up to like 40.6. Sound good?

Imagine if the great WAR machine Mike Trout went down and he was replaced by a healthy Angel Pagan. Would that team go into the tank?

Just another way to look at it.

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I changed out the BBOTD again. Dumpy only had so many wins in that ass. I went a little sideways with the current pic–kinda like how it feels this season is going………

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Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:23 am

Well, according to Baggs, the Giants will make a roster move today, and it sounds like the move will be one of three:

Gary Brown (give Blanco a breather as he has nose-dived over the last few games), Adam Duvall (put him at 1st and move Morse back to the OF), or bring up a 13th pitcher.

Personally, I want to see what Duvall can do with the big club over a couple of weeks. Put him and Panik out there regularly over the next few weeks and see what they have.

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- twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:42 am
  
  I agree, Duvall is the best choice IMO. It might be Brown but he’s just Perez-Lite.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:26 am

Also, not sure it has been shared, but Scoots went 0-2 in a rehab game for the rookie league team last night (played 3 innings in the field). If/when he is brought back, they will have to make a move to clear a spot for him on the 40 man roster.
- Irish Kevin said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:54 am
  
  hmmm…not good, he will wreck the team chemistry….ha ha Hi Chi!!! How the hell are you??
stickman said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:31 am

Looks like Pagan’s heading for the DL. Over a week till Belt’s return. Who gets the call? It’s a short-termer so why not Mark Minicozzi. 31 Y.0. or so. Been hitting the snot out of the ball in AA and AAA. This would be his dream of a lifetime. Could he be a rabbit’s foot?
- Alleykat said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:36 am
  
  2 words… Randy Elliott
- twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:39 am
  
  He’s coming back to earth..175 last 10 games.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:37 am

I saw Minicozzi in ST, Stick. Nice glove in the field. Certainly a feel-good story, but even if it is for a short while, I would like to see Duval. If they go with a pitcher, it will be interesting to see who gets the call. Escobar is consistently talked-about as the farthest along towards a move, but he has struggled this year (3-6 with a 5.31 ERA).
zumiee said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:45 am

In 2013 we got a big dose of Blanco starting. No one wants to see that again.
Piecing the 2014 season back together again after losing Pagan for who-knows-how-long will be a challenge. It can’t just be a coincidence that the two seasons fell apart when he went down with injury.
The one positive thing that can come out of losses is the freedom it gives teams to make changes. The 2014 Giants are in total free-fall. Sabean and Bochy have total freedom to make whatever changes they want, if they so choose. And there’s no reason to concede the season as a “bad penny” year. The Giants are still a firstplace team even though it doesn’t feel that way at the moment. The Giants can get out of this funk and resume a really cool 2014.
- twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:54 am
  
  This a better LU than last year no matter who plays CF.
willedav said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:52 am

Chi, in a brief spot on csnbayarea Baggs mentioned Giants prospects that are struggling a bit, including Escobar, Crick, Susac (multiple injuries including concussion) and Law who might need TJ. Um, this can’t thrill those looking to trade guys like Price and Samardzija.
Snarkk has mentioned a couple things I am in with, such as Blanco hitting the ball on the ground which I watched him do to beat out one to SS Monday night. And, I’d like to see Bochy get another bat to replace Pagan if and when he finally goes on DL. Watching Hicks K, again, at the end last night, is just painful.

Giants are gonna be busy all week and only 1 day off til break…so they have plenty opps to snap out of this.

Reading the book on minors there are different types of mgr. Some are button down guys (ala Showalter) with Tolstoy size club rule book and others who have a ping pong table outside their office. I think Bochy low key style, where he can be flexible enough to accommodate wide variances in personality types, ultimately works best. As he said, Huff in a rally thong isn’t easy on the eyes.
- Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:06 am
  
  In Blanco’s blog http://gregorblanco.mlblogs.com/ he says “In batting practice, I really focus on hitting only low line drives and ground balls. I’m getting better every time. In my last BP, I hit only one fly ball. That’s going to help me. It shows in the game.”
  It sounds like he knows what he has to do, he just doesn’t execute it consistently.
dirtnrocksnomo said, on June 25, 2014 at 8:56 am

I don’t know. 41.2 feels more truthy.
- twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:59 am
  
  Look at this year. Pagan has played more and his WAR is 1.7 compared to Blanco’s .04. And Angel’s Offensive WAR is 10.0, Blanco minus 1.4.
SanDawg said, on June 25, 2014 at 9:05 am

“Tolstoy size rule book”—that’s hilarious. I prefer your ping-pong table type managers myself.

Hey Willie—might Aaron Gordon end up a Sactown King tomorrow? I’d be down with that. Who would you be looking for if you were the Kings holding the #8 pick? Any other NBA draftnicks out there with suggestions for the Kings pick?

Thanks BF for the WAR explanation. Seriously, I’m not up on all those new stats, so that was good for me.

Maybe Timmy can dial up the old magic today. We could sure use it.
- willedav said, on June 25, 2014 at 9:22 am
  
  I dunno Sac too well, but Kings definitely need more depth, more good players. Gordon will bring tough D and rebounding mentality to help Cousins. You can always use more shooters (Patty Mills type), and maybe a credible backup for Thomas.
  And yea, being flexible enough to let everyone be themselves (warts and all) works best for me too.
  - Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 9:54 am
    
    I haven’t followed the Kings much of late. Just got so disenfranchised with them when the Magoofs were driving the club into the ground and trying to sell to interests who only wanted to relocate the team. I have seen enough of them that I think what they really need is a PF who is not afraid to bang (to help Cousins, as you mentioned), and a PG. Paddy Mills would be sweet. He is an unrestricted FA, and will probably get paid handsomely by someone. Would love to see him in a Dubs uni.
- blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:08 am
  
  Don’t know about the Kings draft, but they want to improve their defense and are hot for Josh Smith (and Rondo may follow, i.e., him and Smith are prep school buddies that go way back). We shall see.
- stickman said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:45 pm
  
  You hit that one on the nose. Full barrel.
willedav said, on June 25, 2014 at 9:17 am

Lost in all this too is any credit given to opposing teams regardless of their record. A week ago Sox were hitting 2 and 3 run HRs off Cain and Hudson, something Giants couldn’t match. Pads did all they needed last 2 nights with mostly well timed and placed singles and took advantage of walks and Giants miscues in the field. Pads also played pretty well defensively and made diving snags to snuff out potential rallies.

Something else from minors book–a candid pitcher who was called up for a few days remarked that he knew he didn’t quite belong yet. His take was that even the crummiest ml hitters could rake AAA pitching (think Pill and Velez in PCL), and that the best ones destroy it. So it’s not necessarily a fluke that Pads and their LU full of .220 hitters can dispatch a Hudson when he makes dreaded *location mistakes*.
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 9:57 am
  
  Yeah, you have to give some credit to the other teams, but seriously, to give up runs the way the Giants did to the Padres who were the worst hitting club in MLB…well, that is just sad. There are many areas of the team that is scuffling right now, but to me, the most important one that needs to be tightened up pronto is the SP.
- UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:39 am
  
  Yeah, like the Giants raked the Pads 2 AAA pitchers?
salty said, on June 25, 2014 at 9:28 am

It would be one thing if they had a Trout or Puig to light a fire, but to be throwing Brown or Duvall or Panik is like Kieschnick Bowker gang redux. They *might* have a good game but seriously, long term not the answer. And auditioning them now sems like the worst time. The 2-5 guys need to pick it up.

But what about the Starting P? BIG problem. And they are paying all that money–which makes it hard to see them backing up the truck for help.
Alleykat said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:01 am

Matt Cain is now a .500 pitcher for his career 94- 94, on a pace to go 2-13 this year, choke on that Flappers!
The good news,you do want him in your foursome,as he still is the best golfer on the team, though we’re not paying him mucho dinero to do that!
- wswins said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:04 pm
  
  Not making excuses for Cain but the fact is they have scored 2 runs or less in 7 of his 12 starts this year. Not even gonna mention the other years…
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:36 am

1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF
2. Hunter Pence (R) RF
3. Buster Posey (R) 1B
4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
5. Michael Morse (R) LF
6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
7. Hector Sanchez (S) C
8. Joe Panik (L) 2B
9. Tim Lincecum (L) P

Let’s go Giants!
twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:36 am

WAR is in great part calculated by time played. That explains Blanco’s being higher than Pagan’s in 2013. It’s legit.

1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF

2. Hunter Pence (R) RF

3. Buster Posey (R) 1B

4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B

5. Michael Morse (R) LF

6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS

7. Hector Sanchez (S) C

8. Joe Panik (L) 2B

9. Tim Lincecum (L) P
- UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 10:42 am
  
  So just being there means you get rated higher? I can see why people don’t really believe that.
  - twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:05 am
    
    No, not being there freezes the WAR of the guy on the DL. Pagan’s would have been have much higher than Blanco’s if Pagan had played all year. In other words, Blanco was better than a guy in the whirlpool.
    If you distrust defensive metrics,BTW, just go to Fangraphs and go by offensive WAR only.
  - Alleykat said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:14 am
    
    WAR,
    War huh, what is it good for?
    Absolutely nothin
    Sing it again…
  - twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:23 am
    
    If you don’t understand something, it’s no good.
  - Irish Kevin said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:42 pm
    
    Good Jackie Chan imitation there Alley!!
- twinfan1 said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:11 am
  
  But if you don’t trust WAR at all, use the sniff test. See ya later.
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:20 am

I don’t see any of these newbies sticking around here, except Panik possibly. Second base was the black hole, all the other positions are scuffling or in the case of Pagan, heading for the DL. In short, Duval will be here until Pagan gets back and then the likelihood is he goes back down. As Salty alluded to, we are in frickin’ 1st place by 3 games. LA hasn’t been any great shakes this season, e.g., look at their losing home record. The rest of the division sucks as well. Still no need to panic or think we are in a “bad penny” year as Zum said. If we maintain 1st or 2nd, I fully expect Sabes to make a run at Price, Samaracallmesam, Murphy or some other vet(s) before the trade deadline. Relying on the minors is NOT in the cards this season. Book it.
- Alleykat said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:31 am
  
  That’s Adam Duval the baseball player
  they might call up, not the golfer David Duval right? Just want to clarify
Macdog said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:29 am

Pagan to DL, Duvall called up.
wswins said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:29 am

Pagan DL…Duvall up
- Alleykat said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:44 am
  
  Pagan to DL.. David Duvall called up!
  Oops OK let’s make it Adam
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:41 am

Another reason not to get too excited about minor league reinforcements is the fact that most of our top prospects are not doing very well. Here are the Giants top ten prospect list and their “stock” rating – up or down . . . http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2106354-stock-up-stock-down-for-san-francisco-giants-top-10-prospects-at-midseason
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 11:59 am

David Duval, come on down! Met him in Idaho years and years ago. Good skier . . .
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:14 pm

I read where Bochy says he will use Duvall predominantly off the bench, mixing it up with a few starts (at 1B) which will put Morse back in the OF.

Why the fuck not just play Duvall for most of the starts between now and when Pagan comes back. I mean really, let’s give the kid a shot to see what he really has (or doesn’t). This shit of bringing up a top prospect only to let them mainly ride the pine is BS.
- UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:30 pm
  
  I’m sure it’s all fluid right now. We’ll see how things go when he gets here.
- Irish Kevin said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:53 pm
  
  I am probably wrong but it seems like Posey has spent a lot of time at 1st base since Belt went down. I don’t know if that is because of his back or what, but it seems like Morse one night and then Posey the next. I think over the next two weeks Duval should get to play every day. He is probably going back down once Belt is ready anyway. So why not play him.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:17 pm

BTW…today’s game is the free game on MLB.com. (I guess if nobody is going to pay to see this shit, you give it away, eh.)
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:31 pm

The good news is, we’ve seen Ian Kennedy before.

Let’s hope TIm Tim can do what the last 2 guys couldn’t. And that’s get the lead-off guy out.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 12:43 pm

Nice article re: Tony Gwynn Jr.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/holding-back-tears-tony-gwynn-jr-returns-to-standing-ovation-in-philadelphia?ymd=20140624&content_id=81485432&vkey=news_mlb
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:20 pm

Revenge of the Phone Park. Ha.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:20 pm

Mr. Triple…time to cash in!
- Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:23 pm
  
  Craw has 8 now, that just amazes me.
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:20 pm

No shit, K and K are right – cash in.
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:24 pm
  
  K & K? WTF…they must be channeling me. I can’t get the damn radio or tv feed from work. “Watching” via LameDay right now. Tell those fucks to quit stealing my thoughts.
  - blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:28 pm
    
    On it Chi! 🙂
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:20 pm

A lead!!
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:21 pm

At least I’m getting the audio for free. MLB TV is blacked out.
Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:21 pm

Yes.
Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:24 pm

Time to get back to the ol’ “We score first, we win” ways, of the 2014 Giants.
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm
  
  Not yes, but FUCK YES!
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm

WOOHOO! A lead, and all of a sudden, the clouds parted, the sun shone, and I got the damned audio feed! It has to be a good omen…
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:28 pm

Kid was smart letting Blanco handle that. it will take him a bit to get comfortable at the Phone Park. Ask Venable. Ha.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm

Timmy Tim – only 38 pitches through 3. Very cool. Hell, of late, it seems he has had 38 pitches in the FIRST inning. Keep it going Giants.
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:31 pm

Very cool video of Duval being welcomed by the Giants. . . Umm, where’s his fucking clubs?
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:33 pm
  
  Wondering if his first hit will be a 5 iron, 7 iron, or a wedge? 5 iron into the Cove would be bitching…
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:31 pm

Timmy Jim! WHACK! POW!! BAZINGA!!!
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:32 pm

Holy shiit 98 years old.

TImmy get s hit #2!
- blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:37 pm
  
  One of my favorite actors. Glad you told me he is having a birthday and not RIP. Long live Eli
  - Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:49 pm
    
    Sorry Steve, the NY times has his obit. RIP. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/25/movies/eli-wallach-multifaceted-actor-dies-at-98.html?_r=1
  - blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:58 pm
    
    Damn. RIP Eli . . . Loved the interplay between him and Clint Eastwood in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
- UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:05 pm
  
  Oooops. Guess I shoulda been clearer.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:35 pm

Blanclo might be practicing hitting theball on the ground, but it sure doesn’t show up when the game starts.
gianthead said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm

If I were the Kings, the last thing I need is Aaron Gordon. They have drafted prospect after prospect after prospect. Instead, I would do everything I could do to trade for Rondo and then build around Rondo. But I see that Kings with $19 mill now going to Rudy Gay (wtf?) are already pushing on the salary cap. SOo only way to add Rondo is to deal Cousins, which may be worth getting rid of a headache even though he has tremendous talent.

Would the Celtics want to build around Cousins? I don’t know. Sac town could get Olynk back as a serviceable center for now. But would probably take Cousins and the first round pick and probably a future #1 to get Rondo and Olynk. Then Gay’s contract is up in 2015, so you have that $19 mill then to spend on keeping Rondo and then another $19 million more to build a roster around him. The option to keep Derrick Williams will also be up next year, so this will be a year to test if he is worth it. I could see Gordon in a Celtics uniform with Cousins and Jefff Green as the future…
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm
  
  Headache or not…no way in hell I would deal Cousins. If he is not already, he is well on the way to being the best big man in the game.
- blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm
  
  Agree with Chi. You’re going by 2 seasons ago GH. I had Cousins on my FL team, so I followed him carefully. He was a saint this season compared to past seasons. More important, the dude is the BEST center, not named Duncan (and maybe even better because of the minutes he plays vs. Duncan). Same deal with Gay – Gay was outstanding this season, as his FG percentage was excellent . . . In past seasons, he sucked. In short, he complimented the other 4 players in Sac. They have a great team and need assistance with defense, thus their possible pursuit of Josh Smith (not certain I am sold on that yet). If Smith does come over, it is quite possible Rondo follows due to his friendship with Smith.
gianthead said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm

Always nice to see the family of the new guys making it to the show for their first game…
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm

Everyone noticing the dugout? This is what we’re talking about when we say chemistry is important. These guys are excited.
Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:42 pm

The CF garden is such a waste. I mean, I guess it’s a good idea but the original ball park plan had a brew pub there. The Pot Hill NIMBYs shot it down because the scoreboard would have been up higher. A brewpub I tell ya. Damn.
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:47 pm
  
  I have no idea, but I am guessing it costs a pretty penny to sit out there. Only way the Giants do that is to hear the cash register go cha-ching…
  
  Does anyone know the details? Do they charge tall dollars to sit amongst the lettuce and kale?
  - Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:54 pm
    
    I think they serve coffee and you can’t see the game, so not sure they charge. It could have been a brewpub Chi, a brewpub. But my old neighbors fucked it up.
  - UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:09 pm
    
    Yeah, they showed it yesterday, and there’s no view of the game short of some 12″ slits in the CF wall.
    
    Maybe you can climb a bean stalk . . .
  - Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:17 pm
    
    I am down with brew and brew pubs, John. That would have got my vote over a damned garden, even though I love gardens…
gianthead said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:55 pm

Good Bad and Ugly, still my second favorite film of all time…
- blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm
  
  Loved that film.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:08 pm

Yeah, one of my earliest memories of going to the movies was seeing A Few Dollars More at the San Mateo Theatre on 3rd Ave. Musta been ’65 or ’66 as that would put me at 4-5.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:15 pm

Hey…WTF, maybe we have more than one top of the rotation guys after all. Timmy is DEALING.
- UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm
  
  Yeah, but it’s the Padres . . .
  
  .
  
  (I kid, I kid, after seeing how badly Cain and Hudson got raked by them)
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:18 pm

Buster with the single trifecta…
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm

Time to ADD ON…
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:23 pm

Finally, the real Padres showed up. No idea who that team was yesterday.
- Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:30 pm
  
  The 1925 Yankees?
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:26 pm

Weak shit from Hector with the bases juiced.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:28 pm

Yup. 1st pitch popup. Weak sauce.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Tim Tim!!!!!!! Not throwing a lot of pitches. 50 pitches through 7?

Yowza.
Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm

Ha. WTG Timmy.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:35 pm

Ahh, the ESPN thing was way off. 87 pitches.
gianthead said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm

What happened with the field? Fairly beat up. Concert?
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:45 pm

Badda BOOM! Fuck Yeah!
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:45 pm

Buster is dealin’
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm

Pedal on the medal . . . Keep the conga line movin’
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:48 pm

There you go . . .
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:49 pm

Come on kid…keep it going…
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:53 pm

The Great Gazoo. lqtm.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:54 pm

Come on Crawdaddy…
Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 2:58 pm

Shit. To top it off my MLB feed went from HD to two cans and string, underwater.
- blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm
  
  Good one John.
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:04 pm

Who you think will pinch hit for Timmy???
salty said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:06 pm

Just tuned in…Tim luvs SD doesn’t he?
Flavor said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:06 pm

Had to leave work early for this. Closest bar had World Cup bullshit and no Giants. Drove across town, my buddy’s bar is locked into this game with every tv.
- Flavor said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:07 pm
  
  By the way, fuck The Dutch Goose and 1st/main rules
  - blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:11 pm
    
    Bar?
  - UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:20 pm
    
    Yup. Used to go there a bunch . . . Was the shuffleboard king.
  - UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm
    
    The Goose that is . . .
  - UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:22 pm
    
    The Goose was showing World Cup and no Giants??? BAD form . . .
gianthead said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:12 pm

Good day to find out I can get the game on mlb.com for free with my directv subscription:)
- pawliekokonuts said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm
  
  free TV; Macgog called me and RaysFanGio tweeted me.
pawliekokonuts said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:13 pm

Um. Just tuning in. Was on a pouty, brief sabbatical from baseball, plus was meeting with someone. but I’m here now. Present and accounted for. SIR.
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:23 pm

TIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:23 pm

NO NO! WHOOT! FUCK YEAH!!!!
Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:24 pm

BIG TIME TIMMY JIM! I love this kid…struggles and all!
Flavor said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:24 pm

Fan fuckingtastic.
Macdog said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm

TIMMY!!!
blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm

For me, this makes up for the last few weeks. Awesome NO HITTER! Glad I was able to watch it.
gianthead said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm

awesome what a run we have had since Jonathan Sanchez’ no-hitter in 2009!!!
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm

Disrt, you lucky lucky bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bozo said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm

Fuck Yes, Fuck Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UncaChucks NinerPage said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:26 pm

In case he didn’t post it here, Dirt is at this game . . .
- Chipower9 said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm
  
  Yes. Saw that on his FB page. Asked him to get us a win. I need to buy that boy a beer!
- blade3colorado said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:30 pm
  
  Wow. What a memory that’ll be for Dirt and his family. My cousin and his family saw Timmy’s no no last season while his daughter was playing in a softball tournament in San Diego.
- Flavor said, on June 25, 2014 at 3:46 pm
  
  That’s right! I forgot. I “liked” that on Facebook earlier today.