Kenny Stabler

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 10, 2015

I am a 49er fan but as a kid I loved certain Raider players. I think I liked their names. “Casper”. “Branch”. “Guy.” And of course, “Stabler.” I’m left handed too and I remember fashioning my td throws after him to my buddies in the street outside my house. In hindsight, it’s weird I never became a Raider fan but 2 guys named Montana and Clark probably had something to do with that.

Anyway, I remember watching this play in my living room–probably my first memory of watching a football game at home. “Get yer big butt outta here….” RIP, Snake.

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Giants game tonight. There’s nothing like baseball in terms of a shitty team being able to beat you on any given night. The pitcher has everything to do with that. Cole Hamels v MadBum and I wouldn’t want to have to try to be a hitter in this game……

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unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:49 am

Yeah same here. I never was a fan of the Raiders but the Snake, Freddie B and Cliff Branch were some of my favorite players. Ghost to the post,the holy roller, the team was always in the middle of it.

What’s maddening is this’ll be what gets Stabler into the HOF. He should be there.
- Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:03 am
  
  Agree Chuck. The Snake is a Hall of Famer if there ever was one.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:44 am
  
  I third the motion. Snake belongs in the HOF.
Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:02 am

I’m really sad to hear of Ken Stabler’s passing. I’m was in the same boat as you, Flavor, a Niners fan who couldn’t help but keep current on all those great Raiders teams of the ’70. The Snake will always be one of the great QB’s in the leagues history, a true big-game player and a real tough dude. And, of course, one of the great nicknames as well.

RIP Snake. You will be missed.
Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:06 am

Great call by Bill King! “Yes, get your big butt out of here!”
willedav said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:19 am

Such innovators in those days too—Stram and Don Coryell.
Rivalries were fierce too, seems everyone hated Raiders but Chiefs Chargers Broncos circled them on calendars.
willedav said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:21 am

OK, this is the Phils…who haven’t scored in 20 innings and are on pace to lose 112 games.
As long as they don’t trade Hamels to LA they can stay whole rest of the month here.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:44 am

Great thread and video clip. I have mentioned before that I grew up in Oklahoma and was a Chiefs fan, but I always had a liking of the old Raider teams, even though the Chiefs were division rivals with the Raiders. As a kid, I assume many were like me and could give a shit about “division rivals.” I liked teams principally for their players, and Snake was one I always admired. Those old Raider teams were bad ass. Snake, Bilentnikoff (sp?), Casper, Otto, Hubbard, the Stork, Lester the Molester…they were a fun team to watch. RIP, Snake.

This June/July sucktitude mirrors last year pretty damned close. Given that we have rarely had a fully healthy team, I am not tripping that badly right now. The main concern, and difference this year as opposed to last, is that we had a bullpen that was pretty much lights-out. This year that piece of shit bullpen is one of my biggest concerns. I have NO confidence in Romo, Strickland, or Casilla. Affeldt and Machi have sucked. Lopez and Kontos have been the only steady hands. So, the bullpen must find its mojo (or Sabevans needs to go get the likes of Chapman).

And I still would love to see the Giants make a play on Parra. As mentioned before, the BrewCrew got him for a song (two prospects), so I doubt he would cost much. His remaining salary for the year is about 3 mil (chump change in this day and age), and he will be a FA next year. This is one of the few times that I would be down with a rental, IF the pieces we gave up were not top prospects, but I would prefer a sign-and-trade, so that we had Parra for a couple of more years (Pagan is not getting any younger, and we could jettison the dead-wood that is Maxwell).

Great pitching match-up, and as Flav said, no way in hell I would want to be a hitter in this game. But maybe the Orange and Black surprise us and t-off on Hamels. You can only hope.
- Bozo said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:31 am
  
  Chi, if you’re going to make a trade, why not go all in and get Grilli and Maybin from Atlanta?
  Wish in one hand…
  My guess is that the Giants will just forgo a trade right now and kick the tires on a Delmon Young or Cody Ross for the OF (I think both would only cost the league minimum) and maybe just bring Derek Law up for a try at some late inning relief.
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:25 am
    
    John – all I have read is that Parra is available and the Brew doesn’t expect much. On the flip-side, I have heard Atlanta is not shopping Maybin, and I think he would be much more pricey. I believe it was WillieD, not sure, had mentioned he would prefer they go out and get a RH power-bat. Not sure there are many of those available via trade, and again, the cost would probably be prohibitive. I also do not think the Giants need a power bat. I like Parra as he can play all OF positions, and he hits for average, and some power (he has 8 HRs this year). His 8 HRs tops all OFers on the Giants, unless you want to consider BB9 an OFer…he has 9. And the Giants have proven they do not need to hit the long ball to win. I just think Parra would be a piece they could get without giving up much, and he could spell Pagan, and again, they could jettison Maxwell.
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:35 am
    
    Also, while there is not much difference on where the Braves and Reds are in relation to the WC, Atlanta is in a better position than Cincy, and I think less likely to be sellers.
    
    Chapman is a bit more expensive (he signed for 8.05 to avoid arb, and has one more year of arb next year). Grillis is making about 4 this year and is signed for 3.5 next, and the Braves have a 3 mil club option in 2017 (.25 mil buyout). Having him for that cheap is one more reason I don’t see the Braves dealing him.
  - Bozo said, on July 10, 2015 at 1:37 pm
    
    Sorry Chi, I have to disagree. I think Atlanta will be sellers (unless they get that Bull Pen in order, they ain’t going nowhere) and the two players I mentioned have been rumored to be available, but costly. That’s why I don’t think the Giants will be involved (although I think Grilli is on LA’s wish list, so that might come into play). I think the Giants will probably wait until after the deadline if they are buyers, unless a deal comes up that is insanely good, or doesn’t cost much. In the meantime I think they’ll go dumpster diving and look internally.
    Also, I think Parra is probably on a few teams wish lists, so I think the Brewers will probably jack up the ante.
    Just my opinions.
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 2:54 pm
    
    Well, you must have seen some news I did not see. I definitely saw a piece a couple of days ago that said Atlanta has no interest in dealing Maybin. And really, for the extra dough, personally I think Parra fits the needs, for probably less of a commitment. And yes, I have heard Parra is on a few teams’ radars, but he has been on SF’s for a long time (per a number of things I have read). Time will tell..we’re just a couple of old armchair GMs. 😉
    
    Hey, on a separate note…did you see a friend request from me via FB? Would be good to connect there (as I have with Blade, Edd, Paul in Asia, Flavor, Dirt, and maybe a few other Flappers). Take care, brother and GO GIANTS!
willedav said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:46 am

Even when they were really good 5 yrs ago Phils always seemed to have rough time hitting here. Now they are really bad, so no excuses.

Btw, if you take the Wabac machine to 2009, J Sanchez no hits Pads 8-0 (in front of his Dad, right?) with only baserunner on by error on Uribe who was playing 3b.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:49 am

Just noticed that I am wearing my NL Championship shirt from 2012. And the team our boys took out to punch their ticket to the WS…the Phils. I can see Ryan Howard standing there looking at a fastball right down the heart of the plate to end the game and series. Time to recapture some of that magic!
- Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:57 am
  
  What a great moment that was. Wilson had to do his usual high wire act, but that speedball down Broadway was classic (I think it was a slider, actually, but I’ve been waiting for the chance to use the word ‘speedball’ in a sentence for a while now). Posey leaping out of this crouch with his arms raised. On to the World Series!
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:11 am
    
    You are right, LJ. The previous pitch (one Howard barely missed and fouled straight back was like a 97 or 98 MPH fastball), and then Wilson froze him with a slider that was on the outside of the plate. Gail and I were at a sports bar in Pleasanton (we were there for an agility competition with our dogs) and the place went absolute nuts. I was dancing around high-fiving strangers…it was pure pandemonium.
    
    Here is a good video clip of that K of Howard from a Giant’s fans perspective. Pretty cool…
  - Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:17 am
    
    What a great video, chi! That guy was saying and doing the same thing I was; “C’mon Brian!” Stressing, sweating, wringing my hands. What an epic playoff game that was. That fan had a great view. Thanks for posting.
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:19 am
    
    I know! I was with about a hundred or so crazy insane Giants fans and we were all doing the same thing! What a great memory…
  - Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:18 am
    
    Oh wow! … “speedball” … just might be my favorite word of all time, in any language, ever!
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:18 am

RIP, Omar Sharif.
Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:37 am

Bad day for celebrities. Doctor Zhivago will always be one of my favorite movies. Well, anything else David Lean directed, too.
- giants54 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:35 am
  
  I was a sucker for anything with Julie Christie…
  - Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:44 am
    
    Absolutely! She was especially hot in Doctor Zhivago.
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:08 am
    
    Julie Christie was THE BOMB…what a beaut…
- ewisco said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm
  
  Tonya was a damn good looking girl. but no chance against Lara. how she ended up with a scum bag like victor, well, that’s why it’s a novel.
Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:45 am

Interesting quote from Lester Hayes talking about Kenny Stabler:

Cornerback Lester Hayes joined the Raiders in 1977. He said he was “amazed” by Stabler.

“I never saw anything like it,” Hayes said. “He had pinpoint accuracy. He was like Madison Bumgarner. Fastballs, slider, just pinpoint accuracy. … Back in the ’70s, we had a lot of love on our team. Kenny was a big part of that.”

From ESPN.com

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13230192/ken-stabler-former-oakland-raiders-quarterback-dies
Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:37 am

Hey there Fellow Flappers, Immense thanks for your compliments on the merits of my recent humble offering. Must say, it pleased me to no end to be able to raise a few smiles on your faces – heaven knows you all have certainly done that and more, for me, so many times. In the light of our recent play – geez, here we are fast approaching the middle of July and we have won only 1 game this month (… Whaaaat? … is that right? … I just double checked … That’s IS correct) – I was feeling pretty shitty, as I think many of you were. Ironic humor is a wonderful balm.

You guys are right, I definitely need to come up with a cool moniker … I’m working on it.
- Lurker John said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:51 am
  
  Yep, we need to get the G’s back on track. I’m tired of long losing streaks and overall shitty play. Now that Pence is back let’s hope he can help jump-start he offense. I don’t know when Aoki is slated to return. Let’s start with MadBum beating Hamels tonight.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:53 am

Greater Raider names: Lamonica … Blanda

I grew up in Canada as a passionate CFL fan. My local team’s colors were orange & black and although I loved the Canadian game I folllowed American football with fervor. The Raiders were my team, Big Ben Davidson was my guy … I wanted to be a 6’8″ DE … but was fated to be a 5’11” DHB. My misguided young adult aspirations and fantasticism led me to a walk-on tryout at a Junior Big Four League camp – next step would have been the CFL.

My local swimming pool supply co. is run by a former CFL OT (as a kid, I had his football card, they came on the back of cereal boxes which you would cut out) … you cannot believe what the fingers on one of this guys hands look like … a totally misshapen tangle of flesh & bone.

Luckily, I was a much better musician than athlete.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:58 am

Oops, I meant “great” not “greater” … I’d never be so presumptious
alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:31 am

Lamonica’s nickname was the “Mad Bomber” Always throwing the bomb to Warren Wells.
Chiefs/Raiders were the bad ass rivalry back in the late 60’s &70’s
Remember when Buck Bucannon(sp) ripped off Len Dawson’s helmet during a sack and all hell broke loose..
God I missed that style play and for the most part the refs let it go.Now their playing flag football and calling stupid penalties every other play.
- alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:34 am
  
  You know what I just fucked up and had a brainfart, it was Ben Davidson ripping Len Dawson a new one, fucking Bucannon played for the Chiefs,,
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:48 am
    
    Ha…I was just about to comment to that effect. Sucks getting old, eh Kat (I can speak from experience)?
  - Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:57 am
    
    Brain farts are easily pardoned by me. I have more than my share of them and those fuckin so called “senior moments” … my wife tells me I’m on the fast track to dementia.
    
    I was a total disciple of the AFL. I wept when the leagues merged. When Joe Kapp jumped ship after winning a CFL championship for my hometown heroes, and headed to the Vikings, I secretly pulled for Dawson and the Chiefs to kick his ass in Super Bowl IV … which they, of course, did. According to Wiki Kapp is still only QB to man the helm in Rose Bowl, Grey Cup and Super Bowl games.
unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm

Yeah back then the Chiefs were my AFL team that I liked. Otis Taylot was the man in those days. He was my favorite non-Niner player. Raiders chiefs were always epic games.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 1:37 pm
  
  Yep…Otis Taylor was one of my favorite Chiefs, too. Buck Buchanan was a monster, too. And I loved watching Stram on the sideline. He and Madden were a show unto themselves as coaches.
  - ewisco said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:49 pm
    
    they got Art Shell just to handle BB. some freaking EPIC battles.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Wanted to give kudos to snarkk for the video he shared last night…Sea of Hands. Awesome clip.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 1:55 pm

Not sure if you guys saw it…but once he fully clears waivers tomorrow, Buzzkill (McGehee) looks to be resigning with the Marlins. What a wasted effort for our boys on that one…
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 2:51 pm
  
  hmm … wonder what they’ll do with his sorry ass? Dietrich has been doing pretty well @ 3rd for ’em especially in the past week or so. They may DFA their current bench guy Rojas (.176) Also, see that Morse is back … returned this week with a single, homer & walk in half dozen ab … they had him PH @ Cubs, alternated LF/1B & Dh’d against Boston, LF @ Reds. Probably has lost 1B gig to Giant killer Bour. After sweeping the Giants, Fish lost both series to Cubs & Rsox but shutout Reds last nite.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 2:24 pm

FYI Flappers … Cards @ Pit is the free game of the day on the MLB ‘at bat’ app @4:05p PT. Lynn vs Cole … Should be a good one.
dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 10, 2015 at 2:27 pm

Pagan to be evaluated per CSNBA. The wager over 100 games played hangs in the balance.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 2:58 pm
  
  Yeah, I saw that, Dirt. Hey, I only need him to play in 21 of the 76 games remaining.
  
  Evaluated, as he is in the starting line-up tonight.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:00 pm

1. Angel Pagan (S) CF (under evaluation)….
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B
3. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Hunter Pence (R) RF
6. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
7. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
8. Justin Maxwell (R) LF
9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm

Duffy hitting 3rd: 14-57 .246 / 2 HR / 4 RBI
- giants54 said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:34 pm
  
  And he hasn’t hit lefties …@.203 in 68 ab’s
giants54 said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:29 pm

Gotta sit Pagan….
Over the last month +, he’s worse than Mcgehee was.
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:37 pm
  
  Really? … I thought nobody was worse than McDP … Maxwell is givin’ his legacy a run though.
- Bozo said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:56 pm
  
  With McGehee gone, Pagan, Posey and Duffy are tied for the team lead in GIDP.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 5:55 pm

Awhile back, I heard or read somewhere (I can’t remember exactly – havin’ another senior moment, my 9th today) that at the the ML level the hitting coach generally does not advise players unless he is specifically asked by the player to do so. Does anyone know if this is accurate?

I only ask because Maxwell seemed like such a stud at the outset … and now … well, y’all have witnessed what I have …. he is fuckin’ useless. He certainly brings a good glove and decent arm … is there nothing that can be done to straighten this guy out? … even just a little bit? Maybe he needs to spend the ASG break in intensive care sessions with Bonds …?

It’s reminiscent of Hicks last year … That guy single handedly won some early games for us then he tanked so bad … whew what a stench that was. He couldn’t even pick it back up at AAA.
- djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 6:05 pm
  
  He has no baseball instincts.
  - James said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:42 pm
    
    Is that baseball scout code for “he can’t hit?”
zumiee said, on July 10, 2015 at 6:11 pm

Costas doing play by play is not awesome.
snarkk said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:12 pm

I was thinking about going to the Sunday game with Snarkettes in tow, but damn Stubhub tix so far are craZy high? For the Phills? Wtf? Apparently it’s a free cap giveaway day, but is that why tix would be high for a dog meat opponent?…
- James said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:49 pm
  
  I saw those absurd prices, too.
  
  What really pissed me off was the incredibly lame, dumbed down UI StubHub has rolled out. There’s no longer a way to filter by seating zone or feature, e.g., parking pass. The old UI is still available for now, if you manually edit the URL.
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:27 pm
    
    I have not been on StubHub since the change, but will be soon to pick-up tix for the Nats game next month. What exactly do you have to do to hit the old URL, James?
Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:16 pm

9:15am Saturday morning in Saigon, and I’m sippin’ my morning coffee and, as is my usual morning routine, checking out what’s happening in Flap Universe. Chi, just read your 8:44 about Parra. I looked at the clock and figured, hey, 7:15 Friday eve in SF, wonder if Fox Asia might be carrying the game…. it’s rare, but it happens sometimes. Nope, but they are carrying LA/Brewers, and who should be coming up to bat just now when I turned it on, but Parra himself. Well, he flied out to left, but I took his appearance at that moment when I switched on the TV on the other side of the world from China Basin as sort of a sign that maybe Flap U. is causing energy waves to shift and float around… 🙂 Right. Back to my morning coffee.
- snarkk said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:26 pm
  
  Paul, I’m sippin on a pint of Deschutes XP Nitro at my local sports bar watching Bum get thru the first frame. Good brew, but a Vietnamese coffee sounds good too. Pagan with a hit!…now Panik with the hit!!
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:31 pm
    
    Deschutes is one of my favorite breweries…bottoms up! I had an extra dry martini before dinner, and then a glass of Fiddletown Zinfandel with dinner…both were awesome…kind of like this Giants game tonight. Cheers, gents.
- Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:30 pm
  
  VNmese coffee is quite excellent, Tom. But your drink sounds pretty darned good too. Well, for you, in the evening, not yet for me in the morning…
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:30 pm
    
    Yeah, a beer in the morning for me means I am sitting around a camp fire. It’s a beautiful thing…
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:29 pm
  
  That is bad ass Paul. It may just be an omen. 😉
Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:48 pm

Ah, the Phillies. I was a big fan back in the Jonny Callison / Richie Allen / Jim Bunning years. They really pissed me off when they blew it in ’64 (that was sort of the first pennant race that I remember as a kid). My Dad, as some of you here might remember, was a Phanatic (more or less) up until his death in April, so I always watched a lot of Phils’ baseball when I was visiting the folks. Dominic Brown always *looked like* a ball player I could’ve coveted for the G’s outfield, but man, he’s hitting under .200 and *looks like* he’ll never put it together. Revere, on the other hand, always struck me as a good match for SF’s center field needs, especially if Pagan’s knees are going to prevent him from ever performing well again. In addition to many other times as well, I will always miss my Pops whenever I think of or see the Phillies.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:33 pm
  
  Good stuff, Paul.
James said, on July 10, 2015 at 7:55 pm

Bum was certain he was going to see a couple more strikes there.
Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:03 pm

I haven’t seen Joc Pederson as much as ya’ll have, but I just watched him strike out (for the 2nd time already) with huge over-swings on curve balls. He didn’t even come close to hitting those pitches. I guess he’s got power (20-something HRs?), but man, he’s going to have to shorten his swing and/or get better at guessing the pitches.
- zumiee said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:27 pm
  
  His career is off to an odd start. His OBP is high; he walks a lot.
  - zumiee said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:28 pm
    
    His batting average is in the .220s.
xoot said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:22 pm

McCovey looked and sounded pretty strong just now.
- djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:11 pm
  
  Yes, that was good to see…
willedav said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:37 pm

Help yourself brutha! Bottom order starts it and Pagan and Panik keep it going.
Get Hamels out of there everything this entire weekend should get easier.
James said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:44 pm

The INRHT numbers for SF are off the charts tonight.
- djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:10 pm
  
  lulz!
willedav said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm

Awesome inning as the Rev uncorks one!
James said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:46 pm

But remember, the Giants only have one 3 run HR all year.
Macdog said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:47 pm

Hunter Slam!
alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2015 at 8:49 pm

Nothing like a GRANDSLAM to ice a rout… Hunter Pence!!!
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:24 pm

What a night! Magical! Our boys and the Flap Universe needed this one. I said earlier they needed to t-off on Hamels, and did they ever!

Pence on the Fence night and the Reverend hits a grand salami. Duffy with the seeing-eye single through the pitcher’s legs…when shit is going good…it is REALLY GOING GOOD. Hopeful this is a sign of things to come for the Orange and Black.
djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:27 pm

It’s amazing how many major leaguers are clueless base runners….
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:35 pm
  
  No shit…I coached a ton of kids (even in girls softball) who ran the bases better….
Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:28 pm

I feel for Hamels, he’s been a real trooper there in Philly, watching that team on a downward spiral after winning it all in ’08. They’ve hit bottom this year. Amid all the trade talk, Hamels always said he wanted to stay in Philly, believing that Amaro was gonna put things back together. Wrong-o. His best years are likely behind him, but I’d still welcome the guy if the asking price wasn’t too high.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:36 pm
  
  Was telling Gail over dinner that I would love to see Hamels in a Giant uni…but like you, only at a decent price. That shit is not happening…you know the bums would overpay in a heartbeat.
djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:35 pm

If it wasn’t for Kontos they’d be at least 10 games out…
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:38 pm
  
  Yep. Only BP guy outside of Lopez who has been worth a shit.
djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Looks like I got Maxwell all straightened out…
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 9:51 pm
  
  For at least a game…he has been consistently inconsistent this year….
  - Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:12 pm
    
    It’s weird huh? 8 run lead and the guy looks so relaxed at the plate … before he ended that last AB in the 6th by doubling I was gonna post that it was a terrific AB … Then he doubled making It an outstanding AB! I think this guy must have some psychological issues … he seems so close to being something quite special … Maybe the pressure is just to much and he cracks … but what do I know? … maybe I’m the one who is cracked!
  - chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:20 pm
    
    Yep Lisle, you see guys like him and can only scratch your head. All the potential in the world is there, they just cannot seem to put it together into an everyday thing.
djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:05 pm

That was a fuckin’ rope…
James said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:10 pm

Chi, bookmark

http://www.stubhub.com/san-francisco-giants-tickets/

Here’s the URL for the Sunday game with the new UI

http://www.stubhub.com/san-francisco-giants-tickets-giants-vs-phillies-7-12-2015/event/9176786/

and with the old

http://www.stubhub.com/san-francisco-giants-tickets/giants-vs-phillies-7-12-2015-9176786/

They’ve switched the directory structure around, but the event number is the same, so you can reconstruct the address based on that ID.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:18 pm
  
  Thanks, James. Yeah, the new interface sucks.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:11 pm

You know the route is on when Machi is hitting…
snarkk said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:22 pm

14-2?
Dang, how’d the Phills get a safety?…
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:24 pm
  
  Pagan fumbled the ball out of end zone…
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:22 pm

Maxwell found his Silver Hammer…
Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:27 pm

Been reading about numerous trade rumors to get the Giants an outfielder, but not sure I saw THIS one coming… Morse? Love the guy, but man, he’s hitting only just above .200 with only 3 HRs….

http://www.fishstripes.com/2015/7/10/8931707/giants-marlins-michael-morse-trade-rumors
- Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:30 pm
  
  I’d still prefer someone like Ben Revere or Parra, but I’m guessin’ Morse would be a lot cheaper than those guys.
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm
  
  Love Morse and everything he brought to the table last year,but not sure I want him back now, especially with another year attached. But this would be the classic dive by Savevans…
  - djloo27 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm
    
    I’ll always love Cody Ross, but I don’t want him back either…
alleykat69 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm

I could be wrong, definitely would not be the 1st time, but I believe most Flappers could not blow a 15-2 lead..
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:32 pm
  
  Hell, when you have a 10-2 score (score at the time) something has to get blown…next thing I know it was 14-2.
willedav said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:36 pm

Good old fashioned thrash.
gonna be a lot of crooked numbers in the box score and more importantly for a lot of guys that have been straining lately, good sign.

Hamels, btw, is not really too overpriced for rest of his deal and isn’t making any more than Cain is I don’t think.
He might not be at Greinke Cueto level, but those guys likely to be more costly in their next long term deals.
Like I said earlier, as long as Phils don’t trade him to LA they can stick around as long they like.
Paul Sorensen said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:36 pm

And an interesting quote by Sergio, trying to explain his less than stellar numbers this year, saying that hitters aren’t afraid of him anymore: “Guys are going in there and it seems like they’re ready to go. They’re not afraid, they’re not surprised.” Comcast says: “Now the real question is: How can Romo put fear back in hitters’ eyes that once had him have Miguel Cabrera stare at strike three to win the 2012 World Series?” I’m guessin’ not…
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:42 pm
  
  Yep…it’s a sad thing. I have liked Romo over the years, but the mystery of his stuff seems to have disappeared.
- James said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:28 pm
  
  His fastball hasn’t lost any MPH and his K rate is phenomenal, so he’s still fooling somebody. RHers remain pretty helpless against Romo. Cuddyer has had a couple of good ABs.
  
  He’s pitched 25 innings. Lefties are 12 for 30, which explains the poor overall numbers. He’s vulnerable to lefties, but there’s no rational reason to believe they’d hit at a 400 clip over a longer stretch.
chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:39 pm

BALLGAME! Nice to get a laugher…it has been TOO LONG!
snarkk said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:49 pm

Boy, chop this score up 3 ways and with 5 a game, that’s a near guaranteed sweep…
Lisle Ellis said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:52 pm

Well … That was totally bizarre … ?
- chipower9 said, on July 10, 2015 at 10:55 pm
  
  Bizarre…Torture’s hot sister.
  - Lisle Ellis said, on July 11, 2015 at 12:51 am
    
    I fear it is all tease & titillation … dry humping … a good dry hump, but a dry hump nonetheless … oh what the fuck, a Win is a Win is a Win …
    
    More, Please!
xoot said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:14 pm

My kid bought me a bottle of Basil Hayden’s for fathers’ day. Enjoyed some of that tonight to celebrate this win. Keep these guys healthy and add Aoki, and maybe a pitcher by the end of the month? Sounds good.
- xoot said, on July 10, 2015 at 11:16 pm
  
  BH is a bit light, for my taste, but good.
zumiee said, on July 11, 2015 at 2:31 am

The Giants were awesome on Friday night.
And here’s an awesome music video in celebration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJLdjbpb2pQ
blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 5:56 am

Giants win a laugher; and, Kershaw not an All-Star? Bizzarro universe. I like it! 😉
- chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:31 am
  
  Liking the picts you are posting from your travels, Blade. Especially love all the historical stuff in Philly. The whole Revolutionary War period is one of my favorites. Safe travels and happy trails, brother.
  - blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 5:00 pm
    
    Thanks Chi . . . Heading home now (disappointed I won’t be seeing Loo and Pawlie . . . sigh).
chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:32 am

Kind of odd for the Gigantes to do a night game on a Saturday. Time to get a little winning streak going here. It is time….
ewisco said, on July 11, 2015 at 10:42 am

is it just me or does Grienke deserve to start the all-star game?
- alleykat69 said, on July 11, 2015 at 11:57 am
  
  It’s just you Ewisco, just kidding.
  You can make a case for Grienke, Scherzer and others,does boil down to when their last starts before the ASG happens too that will determine a starter..
Carstie Clausen said, on July 11, 2015 at 11:53 am

Can anybody tell me of a Giants attack more schizophrenic than this year’s model? Going from getting shut down seriously by both good pitchers and not so hot ones to a 15-2 whomping of the Phillys if off the charts whacko. When you consider the total trashing of Cole Hamels for nine earnies you begin to wonder how Mr Hyde could so quickly transmogrify into Dr. Jekyll.

Those attempting to predict the future course of the SF offense for the rest of the season might be better off throwing money at the lottery.
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 11, 2015 at 12:11 pm
  
  Could not agree more with you … my term was ‘bizarre’ … Blade’s was ‘Bizarro universe’ … Chi referenced ‘torture’s hot sister’ … whatever it is, im not diggin’ this prolonged vertigo inducing first half.
ewisco said, on July 11, 2015 at 2:18 pm

From Ray Ratto’s column on csnbayarea.com:

Bill Murray, Noted Communist, courtesy Don Doxsie of the Quad City Times, covering the John Deere Classic Pro-Am:

“Murray, wearing a floppy hat and a blue and gold paisley shirt that was perpetually untucked, began bantering with the masses before he took his first swing. He asked if any fans saw his beloved Cubs sweep St. Louis in a double-header Tuesday. One woman behind the ropes said she was a Cardinals fan.

“’Satan’s messengers on Earth,’ was the way Murray described the Cardinals. ‘And then it turns out your team is cheaters, too,’ he added.”

Satan’s messengers on Earth. exactly.
James said, on July 11, 2015 at 2:55 pm

The Giants have had losing streaks of 8, 7, and 5 games. During those games the pitching staff has given up 113 runs. That’s nearly 6 runs a game.

The perception that the offense is wildly inconsistent is exactly that — a perception.
djloo27 said, on July 11, 2015 at 4:05 pm

Pagan
Panik
Duffy
Posey
Pence
Belt
Crawford
Blanco
Vogelsong
- chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:01 pm
  
  19 games to 100 for Pagan. Irish Kevin…paging Irish Kevin…get ready to pay up, suckah! 😉
zumiee said, on July 11, 2015 at 4:37 pm

I’m at the ballgame tonight, and it looks like James is guaranteeing runs. Cool!
- James said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:13 pm
  
  No, Zumie, if the Giants score 4 or more it will be because of Hunter’s pure, manic energy! Maybe his infectious smile will also help Vogey keep the ball in the park.
zumiee said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:08 pm

In the center-field garden; it’s cool, but kind of smaller than it looks on TV.
- zumiee said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm
  
  Bustling with people; popular location.
  - xoot said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:34 pm
    
    get a Beefeaters on the rocks. Only gin they sell there.
  - blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:36 pm
    
    No view there though (other then TV), right?
  - zumiee said, on July 11, 2015 at 6:44 pm
    
    A couple of big screen TVs and a few plexi-glass slits cut in the centerfield wall that I never noticed before. Yeah, not a great place to watch the game.
  - chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:15 pm
    
    Have not been out there yet. Will probably wander out there for my next game against the Natty Nats on August 16.
snarkk said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:12 pm

There’s always this stat about if the Giants score 4 or more, then they’re golden. Same kind of stat was given about Zito. What team is NOT golden when it scores 4 or more, is what I want to know…
snarkk said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:28 pm

Still crazy prices for the game tomorrow on Stubhub. $70+ for View Reserve way out there in LF? Ridiculous. And, the Stubhub new platform suxxxx royal. What are they trying to do, screw us with LESS information and search ability? WTF?…
- chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:48 pm
  
  James left a link that sends you (or tells ya how to) the old URL, either earlier on this thread, or last thread, snarkk.
- blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:58 pm
  
  Maddog told me (during our Philly lunch) that he scores tickets to the Philly/Giants game for $20. Chime in Mac – if I didn’t convey that correctly.
willedav said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:44 pm

Pav’s tweet on cbs site: Belt 10 for his last 24 with 5 doubles, could be in another hot streak. Using LF/LCF a lot too, good sign.
Giants have let this kid off the hook a couple times already tho.
- snarkk said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:45 pm
  
  Yeah, Belt is back in a groove. The fans will be fine with him until he cools off again, then it’s “trade his ass” time…
  - chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:49 pm
    
    Yeah, I am looking forward to my next “trade his ass” rant. 😉
blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 7:59 pm

Belt, Craw, and Duffy are all GOLD for me tonight in DFS . . . I have them in a 3some stack in both a tourney and cash game.
- chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:08 pm
  
  Good luck…knock ’em out, Blade! Where you hanging your hat tonight travelin’ man?
  - blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:10 pm
    
    Heading home Chi . . . In Cambridge (not that one), Ohio.
  - chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:24 pm
    
    Safe travels, Blade.
chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:12 pm

Giants cannot let this kid off the hook tonight. They should have a couple more runs already…time to make some noise! That helps, 2 on 1 out…now bring ’em home!
blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:15 pm

Pfffttt!
- willedav said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:19 pm
  
  speaking of pfftt, watching Vogs at bat up there reminded me of the only guy I know who was in favor of DH:
  Nipper. Hasn’t posted here in a long time, hope he’s OK.
  - chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:30 pm
    
    Yeah, I have wondered where in the hell Nipper is. If you had not commented in the morning, he would always inquire as to where in the hell you were. I too hope he is OK.
Bozo said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:26 pm

Vogs, picks up Pagan.
willedav said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:41 pm

So one night after lighting up the $20 mil ace of the staff and 3 of his reliever buddies, Giants have 1 run off this chump.
Check out his numbers coming into tonight, just called up after having been lit up earlier:
24 innings, 32 hits 15 BBs 12 Ks for a WHIP of 1.90 and an ERA of 8.76.

And now the kid has the lead as Howard burns Vogs again off another cookie.
- blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:50 pm
  
  Are you shitting me?
- blade3colorado said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:51 pm
  
  Comment was standalone Willie (sorry, for placing it as a response to you).
chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:42 pm

Fuck! Giants should be winning this sorry assed game.
James said, on July 11, 2015 at 8:49 pm

Oops, Hunter’s energy and smile did not help Vogey tonight . . . .
- chipower9 said, on July 11, 2015 at 9:08 pm
  
  .