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All seems pretty quiet on the trade front and that’s really the way I expect this to go. The Giants have too much hardware (3in5) on display at the park to do anything rash. Leave those moves to teams that haven’t won anything in decades (see: LA Dodgers). And the way our farm system has been performing at the big league level, I’m not really interested in giving any pitching talent away for a #2.
I’m not too worried about it, the Giants don’t overpay ever so there’s very little chance that we see a panicky move at the deadline…..
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Wonder what the Jays have in mind for their infield? They already got a pretty decent ss in Reyes (.285); Donaldson at 3rd. They need a 2nd baseman … hmmm, who gets to learn a new position?
Reyes was part of the trade.
They traded Reyes?
Yep. He was part of the trade that sent Tulo and Hawkins to the Jays…Reyes was dispatched to the far reaches of Siberia…he is now a Sherpa…
So 99 games into the season and Crawford is leading the team in Home Runs. Wait, what did I just write?
Crawford is leading the team in HRs, yeah you right. Attaway Brandon, attaway.
And, man, he crushed that one.
LOL Red Sox. 13 games out in their division now. But, hey, only 9 games out in the Wild Card.
There’s artificial turf in that home park in Toronto. Look for Tulo to get hurt on that stuff…
Yep, with the wheels (and bad hips) he has, no doubt he is on the DL before long.
That’s the first thing I thought of, too.
I’ve read 2-3 articles in the last week, where the Blue Jays wanted pitching. Similarly, the Sherpas need pitching too.
WTF is going on here, with this trade? It makes no sense. Fans in Colorado are going to say this is a salary dump. Blue Jay fans I dunno . . . Maybe this is part of a future trade for them (flipping Tulu and/or other Blue Jays for pitching)? Regardless, right now this trade is stupid, except it frees up about $50 million from that skinflint owner Monfort. No way, no how, he uses that scratch for future pitching needs. You heard it here first.
Maybe just a certain amount of frustration from the Toronto front office. They’ve made a bunch of roster moves the last couple of years, and here they sit with a record of 50-50. The very definition of mediocrity. Throw Tulo in the mix and see what happens, like rolling the dice in Yahtzee.
The Jays were dealt a blow before the season when Marcus Stroman went down for the season with a knee injury. Consequently, acquiring Tulo makes no sense in my mind, unless they are going to deal Tulo and/or another Blue Jay(s) in another trade for pitching, which they need. Hitting is the last thing they need.
It all kind of makes sense to me but that is because I know Toronto, I’ve lived there … it’s one weird assed town!
I’m trying to remember a great quote by Aleister Crowley when he was asked his opinion of Toronto after a brief visit …. it went something like this: “Toronto as a city carries out the idea of Canada as a country. It is a calculated crime against the aspirations of the soul and the affection of the heart.”
What was up with Counsel in the 9th inning? The ump called the runner safe. It was New York who over-turned it. What could Counsil possibly be angry with the umps at the game about? It’s just a dumb move on his part to argue that, other than he wanted to get thrown out to make some point that’s only apparent to him.
Maybe trying to fire up/ wake up his guys? … I dunno … it certainly was a strange move.
Yeah, it seemed unproductive to do that with one out in the ninth, and no runners on base.
I think mainly he was arguing about his player being tossed…dipshit…
Well, once dude was confirmed to be out at second, and then tossed out the game, maybe Counsel felt it was time for drastic measures … It was definitely weird all around. Gomez attempting the steal in the first place then flipping out with the overturned call … if they had been patient Romo might have obliged them and imploded!
Romo sure has trouble with LHBatters. Gennet took that double off him tonight. Righties, he can still deal when he’s on, but don’t throw him against a bunch of lefties…
Rosenthal reports Giants are making strong push for Hamels. A trade would require his approval. I had no idea SF is on his no-trade list. What is up with pitchers not wanting to play here? It really makes you think some of these conservative red-asses really have a phobia of the City.
Hamels is from San Diego, so maybe it’s just too cold. I don’t know, but after last year when we couldn’t close a top line starter it made me think there is something more to it.
Yeah, who would want to come to a pitcher-friendly park where the defending champs (and winners of 3 in 5) play?
Throw in the best weather in the country and yeah, mind boggling.
Fuck that place.
Giants going the smart route in terms of years of control—if Hamels is in ace mode price is very reasonable next few.
Trade for most of the others out there now (key word), it’s a rental with the idea next deal cost will skyrocket.
Cueto is a great pickup for Royals, but what will he cost them after this season is over in terms of years and $$$? Esp given what guys like Scherzer and Lester have already signed for?
What stood out for me with Counsel was that hoodie he was wearing onto the field…what a dumb look for a guy who is supposed to be a mgr. Should have gotten tossed for that alone as soon as he went out there.
Giants certainly have the coin to make a run at Hamels with about 50 mil coming off the books at year’s-end. He is owed 23.5 mil per for the next three years, and probably about 10 mil remaining this year. There is also a team option in 2019 with a 6 mil buyout (Vests if he:
1) has 400 IP in 2017-18, including 200 IP in 2018, and
2) is not on the disabled list with a shoulder or elbow injury at the end of the 2018 season.
Also, re: Hamels…
For this season, he may block deals to all clubs except Atlanta, Chicago Cubs, LA Dodgers, NY Mets, NY Yankees, St. Louis, San Diego, Texas and Washington.
Partial list of top SPs who will be FA after this season:
Cueto
Fister
Greinke who would pass up 3 yrs/$71 mil
Iwakuma
Kazmir
Kennedy
Latos
Leake
Price
Samarzdjia
J Zimmerman
And all of those who are on par, talent-wise, with Hamels, will get much bigger contracts than what remains on Hamel’s current deal.
In Phoenix a few days on biz. Already 92 F at 8 am. Heading for 107, hey a cool day apparently. Giants look like they should take this series against the Brew Crew…
Miguel Castro, and two other minor league players – Jeff Hoffman, and Jesus Tinoco traded, along with Reyes to Colorado. This is the most definitive info on the Tulo trade:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/blue-jays-to-acquire-troy-tulowitzki.html
Good read, Blade…thanks for the share.
🙂
Doubt Reyes stays in Sherpaville, he will move to a real baseball team before the deadline..
Yep. Rockies will eliminate $53 million approx., with Tulo gone. Reyes costs $22 million for the next 2 years. Monfort will jettison him for more pitching prospects. Also, Cargo will likely be traded before Friday (per everything I am hearing in Denver).
Blue Jays are planning something else. This trade helps them IN NO WAY . . . Unless of course, it is part of another deal. It can’t involve Tulo, since he has a no trade clause due to this consummated deal between the Sherps and Toronto.
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