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The Road

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 9, 2015

All the road teams are winning. Can you imagine that happening in football or basketball? Why is it easier to win on the road in baseball than those other 2 sports? Is it because baseball is just a slower, quieter game where the fans don’t have the same type of influence as they do in football and basketball?

Anyone have thoughts about this?

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  1. Carstie Clausen's avatar Carstie Clausen said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:27 am

    Scott White of CBS fantasy sports just rated the top ten shortstops in MLB and Crawford comes in 9th! He’s rating him behind such guys as Ian Desmond, Corey Seager and Jose Reyes. Anyone got an idea as to which planet the dude is from?

  2. willedav's avatar willedav said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:30 am

    With expanded post season there are more games, but still amazing stat from last thread, 45 years.
    See if anyone tonight can keep that going. Does this affect what teams willing to offer Price and his 0-6 post season record?

    Flav, you watch any of SC-Washington? Kessler looked like shit and blew numerous 4th quarter comeback attempts after SC defense stuffed Huskies, a team Cal beat. UCLA lost at home last week too.

    Unless someone like Utes or Stanford run table, no way Pac 12 team a part of the big playoffs. Other than these 2 no one near as good as advertised.

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Bonds, btw is in the area to lead a spinning class f-bomb (fundraiser) for some charity, I read yesterday.
    Nice idea from last thread to set up him and Kent together with plaques at ATT. Otherwise not sure how you’d ever get the 2 of them in same place/same time.

    Giants at some point have to come to grips with how to honor Bonds, something Baer and his marketing bean counters seem unwilling to do. He’s been exonerated by courts, he’s been in the stands and on the field in ST at batting cage, he’s been in the booth with K and K…get over it and take whatever heat is coming.

  4. wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:08 am

    I think Baer is keeping the Bonds celebrations in his back pocket until the team starts having trouble filling the seats. No sense in playing that card while the team is still packing them in.

  5. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:12 am

    My Cindarella WS is still in tact. Cubbies took care of the Bucs and the Stros dispatched the evil empire and then took one from the Royals. Cubbies vs. Stros…come on baby!

  6. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:28 am

    Even though are boys are not in the playoffs the Bucs& possibly the Royals are still feeling the after affects..

  7. willedav's avatar willedav said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:55 am

    Something for Baer and his PR dept. to keep in mind–might not be bad idea to honor Bonds while his godfather is still alive.

    Tmw Oct 10 is b-day of one of my HOF musical heroes, Thelonious Monk. “Straight No Chaser” words to live by.
    What happened to LE? Last I remember he was doing season long detailed analysis of pitching woes and how they contributed to losses. Hope he’s OK.

    Pawlie asked about drought few days ago—meanwhile it’s still 80 degrees here in October and supposed to stay that way through early part of next week. This time ’62 it rained for days…kinda miss that.

  8. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:06 am

    On the roadie thing.
    Baseball is a team sport, but results are based on accumulation of individual efforts, to a great extent. Particularly on offense. Basketball and football team results depend more on communication and complex organized activity among multiple players, particularly football. So, I think playing in front of a loud, hostile crowd impacts that communication and organization far more in those sports than baseball.
    Plus, baseball players are used to tons of roadie games and being away from home in hotels, etc., on a regular basis. For football, it’s one and done, and then back home 8X a season. Basketball, the top teams will win whether on road or at home against most of the rest of the NBA, except for these back to backs where there is a possible rationale for even good teams to play like crap due to being tired, and biorythms out of whack…

  9. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:50 am

    And with that, the Rangers take a 1-0 lead.

    I can’t explain this trend, but I sure hope it continues tonight in L.A.

  10. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:26 am

    Bob Costas just said a Russell Martin hit ties the game as tying run Chris Colabello gets held at third.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:39 am

      Whoever is working with costas also said the ball is marked by pitch trax where the catcher catches it. I don’t think that’s true. I think it catches it if it passes through the 3d zone. Anyone know if this is true? Or was costas side kick correct?

      • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:47 am

        Jim Kaat is the other announcer.

  11. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 11:15 am

    Willie said: “rained for days…kinda miss that.”

    Yep. It’s getting hard to remember what that was like.

  12. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on October 9, 2015 at 11:56 am

    I believe there was several days before that gm7 was played at the Stick back in 62 due to rain.💦💧💦
    In in the end Bobby Richardson rained on the Giants potential 1st W/S championship on the west coast, snaring Stretch’s smoking Line drive to end it…😢

  13. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    The Cuban Missile Crisis was heating up as well…

  14. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    Damn. Just checked the scores…Texas and the Jays all knotted-up at 4 in the 13th…

    Stros up 4-1 in the 3rd. Go Stros!

  15. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    So Jim Kaat is a dumbshit. He thinks the electronic strike zone is identified by where the ball hits the mitt. I knew this was wrong. Here’s one summary I found of how it works:
    “The technology behind the system is actually quite complex. Due to varying heights and batting stances of players, the strike zone is not the same for every batter. As a player places his front foot down in the batter’s box to take his stance, a KZone technician ‘sets’ the strike zone based on his position in the box and his height. Special ‘sensor’ cameras are mounted in center field, high above home plate, and down the first and third base lines. These cameras, which are not used for video broadcasting purposes, track the pitch as it crosses over the plate. The data from the cameras is sent to four computers running a sophisticated algorithm which compares the pre-set strike zone and the location of each pitch. This data is then used to generate the three dimensional image which we see on television. Sportsvision claims that the system is accurate to within 2/5ths of an inch.”

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 2:06 pm

      Yeah, it would be worthless if it’s judging by where the catcher caught it. Kaat should have known that. That’s lazy broadcasting.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 3:02 pm

        He went on and on about it, even suggesting where the catcher should be setting up

    • ewisco's avatar ewisco said, on October 9, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      my lab used to do high speed video of various events. need three orthogonal cameras to calculate trajectory. they probably don’t have that with the overhead camera but probably close enough. the rest is just number crunching.

    • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:47 pm

      I am now officially sold. Bring that robot shit on now. The umps and the way they call the zone all over the damned place are worthless as tits on a boar hog.

  16. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on October 9, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Make it 5-0 for the road teams.

  17. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    It’s really easy to be a Royals fan. I’m totally rooting for them. Couldn’t do it last year but I’m in this year. Nothing against the Astros, I just like all of the royals players, their uni’s and their park.

    • ewisco's avatar ewisco said, on October 9, 2015 at 4:14 pm

      you don’t think their uniforms look, well, dodgerish?

      • alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on October 9, 2015 at 4:44 pm

        Thinkin the same thing eswico..

      • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:49 pm

        That is one reason I don’t like the Royals (unis). That, and their yard is the largest republican convention on the nights the Royals are playing at home. I just like the youngness and mojo of the Astros right now. Would love to see them and the Cubs. Dream on…..

  18. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    Lol I can’t stand Carlos Gomez. That’s rad.

  19. wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on October 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Carlos Gomez is the biggest tool in the game. Dumb as fuck to boot. His home run yeaterday was THE only positive thing he has done since the trade.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 5:07 pm

      watching him stand there on first base like a dumbass just waiting for that review to come back made my afternoon.

  20. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    I can’t stand Lackey either so let’s see the Cubs start do something. Anything.

  21. willedav's avatar willedav said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    Didn’t like the royals (GOP convention is a good one) last year, even less this year. If god forbid they wind up in WS vs. LA, I’d be on Dodgers side.
    Their bloggers whined all year about how many times their hitters got beaned.
    Hello? learn to get out of the way like Mays did, or as Frank Robinson (without armor) did, trot down to 1b without giving pitcher satisfaction he hurt you or moved you one inch off the plate.

  22. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    October 1962 also featured the beginning of the Vatican Council and federal troops in Mississippi. I mention in CHASING WILLIE MAYS that I have a blackout. I do not recall McCovey lining out to Richardson. I’m supposed to recall that but don’t. For me, the game ended when someone, I think Mays, hit a flyball that Tom Tresh caught (spectacularly, in my imagination) in left. Over. That was it.

  23. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    Cards/Cubs, the crusty veterans beat the young upstarts tonight.

  24. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    When did Ben Zobrist become a Royal?

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm

      At about the trade deadline.

  25. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    per ESPN: Kershaw’s career postseason ERA is 2.69 worse than his regular season mark. The only active pitcher with a worse margin with at least 5 postseason starts is Jake Peavy (via Elias).

  26. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    I wonder where blade3Colorado is now.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:45 pm

      he’s been very quiet about his trip. I’m assuming somewhere in southeast Asia.

  27. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    The Cubs had issues with Cuzzi’s inconsistent strike zone, and I remember the Giants had issues with him, but I can’t remember when.

  28. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    The Mets look overmatched against Kershaw.

  29. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    Pawlie: Tresh’s ’62 WS catch on Mays is just after the 32:00 minute mark:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PidCODThB70

  30. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    Somebody should check on Larry King in Row 1 behind the plate.
    Not sure if he’s alive…

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:38 pm

      His golddigging wife got excited.

  31. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    KER-PLUNK!

  32. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    De Grom is the young Timmy.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      well, because of the hair and the velocity and the success but their deliveries are completely different.

  33. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    LOLKNBR ‏@LOLKNBR 25s25 seconds ago
    deGrominant through six innings.

  34. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    Paul Casella ‏@paul_casella 4m4 minutes ago
    And there’s 11 for deGrom. We’re now witnessing the first postseason game in MLB history in which both starters had 11+ strikeouts.

  35. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Big hit from Wright; Kershaw playoff struggles continue.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm

      what was he at, 100 pitches? 2 Trips was seeing ghosts there……

      • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm

        He was over 100 by a few. I was actually surprised the DTT took him out when he did.

  36. Lurker John's avatar Lurker John said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    deGrom with an epic 7 innings! Wow!

  37. Lurker John's avatar Lurker John said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    Agree, big fuckup taking out Kershaw and bringing in Baez to face Wright. WTF was he thinking. Bit him right in the ass.

  38. Lurker John's avatar Lurker John said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    And a great AB by Wright. Did what he had to do, hit a clean single to plate 2.

  39. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    i just figured out that the lower case “d” on the uniforms of deGrom and d’arnaud are actually capital “P”s turned upside down…

  40. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    Following this in a Saigon coffee house. Locals think I am nuts, I.e., I went apocalyptic when Wright got the knock and plated 2. All this shit going down on my smartphone. Lqtm.

    • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm

      LMAO…That is awesome, Blade.

  41. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    It still freaks me out a little that people go to Vietnam to enjoy themselves…

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:57 pm

      I forwarded you a message I sent to Pawlie, explaining my fascination with this country.

  42. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Instead of trading for Grandpa Utley, the Giants gave Specs a shot.
    What a great move that turned out to be…

    • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm

      Yep. Pure genius on the part of the Giant’s brain trust…

  43. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    deGrom is a fricking animal. Too bad he couldn’t pull a Marichal and throw a 160 pitch complete game.

  44. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    Closer, do your thing.

  45. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on October 9, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    The Dodgers never have loud crowds like this in the regular season. Poser crowd.

  46. xoot's avatar xoot said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    The Mets and the bums are an even match, except for Kershaws gag reflex and dtts hysteria

  47. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Can’t spell Clayton in October without an L.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:08 pm

      True, Dog. In the post season they should call him “Kersha”
      He never ends with a “w”…

      • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:54 pm

        Oh, that’s even better!

  48. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Ballgame! Suck on that bumbinos. Great job by the Mets and especially deGrom. Murphy and Wright with the huge knocks. Fun game to watch!

  49. willedav's avatar willedav said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    Loo, thx for the ’62 vid, classic old school Series. Mays Mac Cepeda Alous Pagan Hiller’s slam Davenport Sanford and Pierce. As a kid in the 6th grade, thought for sure they’d be back.
    Yanks had a powerhouse team too, pitching power and great team defense.
    3 consecutive days of rain…man what norcal wouldn’t give for that in October right now.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on October 9, 2015 at 10:25 pm

      Glad you liked it Willie. Tresh never really gets recognized for that catch.

      Well, everybody on TV sounds like the Mets won the series already.
      I think they’re gonna get slaughtered tomorrow…

  50. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on October 9, 2015 at 11:33 pm

    Wrights hit reminded me of Clark in 89 vs the Cubs. Line shot up the middle. Great at bat!!!

  51. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on October 9, 2015 at 11:34 pm

    Doghairs fumble game 1 of their NLDS.
    Now that’s the way to start off the weekend on a positive note…


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