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Golden Crawford

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 11, 2015

Nice GG win for Brandon Crawford. Of course, they’re upset in Atlanta since Simmons didn’t win. I don’t watch Braves games so I have no frame of reference. But I can’t imagine a better defensive shortstop in the league today than Crawford.

Pre-2010, this award would do something for me. Post 2010? Eh, it’s nice. Happy for Crawford. That’s about it.

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  1. ewisco said, on November 11, 2015 at 6:29 am

    the fact that this “defensive” award is so tied to offense makes the whole thing a sham. I’m glad our guy got it but the whole thing is stupid at this point.

  2. unca_chuck said, on November 11, 2015 at 7:16 am

    Cespedes gets a GG? How fucked up is that?

    He’d an adventure out there.

  3. willedav said, on November 11, 2015 at 7:31 am

    Great season for Crawford tho, finally getting some of recognition he deserves as legit AS. Defensively he makes highlight reel plays and routine ones and has cut down on throwing errors from earlier days. He and Panik nice DP combo.

    As a hitter he led SS in HRs and rbis (21 84) .460 slugging. He’s a 5.5 WAR player that made $3 mil this year.
    Contrast that with STL J Peralta, who hit 17 HRs 71 rbis .415 slugging in a better hitters park while making $15 mil. He can be up and down and have his off months but this is position Giants should not have to worry about for long time. It’s also important that he helps solidify IF defense, underrated component of a good team.

    • willedav said, on November 11, 2015 at 7:33 am

      while the GG award is certainly political, now that Craw has one it’s up to everyone else to try and take it away.
      In other words right or wrong this could be first of many.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on November 11, 2015 at 8:37 am

      Royals won it all with THREE GG winners on the team. So the two best teams in MLB postseason play may be looking at a re-match next season if SF gets the right rotation together and perhaps that LFer and maybe one more bully. Note to the front office: Do NOT sacrifice defense for yet another good hitter and see if you can move Pagan to the A.L., where his proper role could be realized as a D.H., as he has now become the worst CFer in MLB. Gotta keep the D. prime up the middle.

  4. xoot said, on November 11, 2015 at 8:10 am

    Cespedes gets the lead glove in CF but gold in LF. Amazing. Off topic, but still:

  5. snarkk said, on November 11, 2015 at 10:32 am

    Gold glove should go to the guy with the fewest errors. Period. If u want some subjective human touch, make it 25% human vote, 75% fielding%. Anything else is just BS. They have it backwards now, so that the human bias is too much– and hitting becomes a factor, which is just dumb. For Silver Slugger, does fielding count?…

  6. snarkk said, on November 11, 2015 at 10:34 am

    Giants need to tie up Craw and take a few FA years away, before the price goes up any more…

  7. Flavor said, on November 11, 2015 at 11:33 am

    Cespy got his for one reason and one reason only: dat arm.

    • eddacker said, on November 11, 2015 at 2:12 pm

      Agreed, thinking of Cespedes the gold glove must go thru the throwing arm. As well as hitting.
      It is a stunning arm, though. Amazeballs he won.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on November 11, 2015 at 3:45 pm

      Was just gonna say that. His arm. The one without the glove on it.

  8. djloo27 said, on November 11, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    He’s not a perfect fit for us in LF?
    Think of that lineup healthy…

    • willedav said, on November 11, 2015 at 7:38 pm

      You have a point, even with Pagan leading off rest of it is rock solid.
      And anyway, even if it takes a big deal, why should the giants care? owning this team is a license to print money and they would sell the joint out again 81 times. Unless he totally cratered Cespedes would become the new Panda, Hispanic crowd fav.

      Like signing Greinke, it’d send hella message LA way too.

      • xoot said, on November 11, 2015 at 7:58 pm

        Cuidado, hombres.

      • djloo27 said, on November 11, 2015 at 7:59 pm

        Cespedes makes so much sense. Pagan’s gone after 2016 no matter what. Gotta grab this guy while they can. If/when Angel goes on the DL. I’d like to see Duffy lead off. He’s probably faster than Pagan now anyway and it would cut down on his GIDPs. I don’t think 6/150 will get it done. Maybe 6/175?

      • xoot said, on November 11, 2015 at 8:05 pm

        four years from now Cespedes will be gorging on bottled oxygen so he can smoke a cigarette in between holes on his favorite golf course

  9. willedav said, on November 11, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Xoot, maybe by then Cuban cigars would be available here. Guy hits anywhere near 35 bombs like this year, he can smoke whatever he wants.

    Seriously tho, payoff would be over front end of the deal—giants get some pitching, they are back into playoffs yada yada.

    Full disclaimer–I didn’t watch 1 minute of post season so everyone else got better look at him in October.
    But up til then he had hella season. Maybe a nice long term deal with one team makes a difference for him too after spending last 2 seasons with 4 different teams.

    • xoot said, on November 11, 2015 at 8:38 pm

      Giants knew Pablo for the fuck up that he is and refused to sign him long term unless he agreed to control terms in his contract. He walked, much to his detriment as it turned out. The Giants will know the problems with Cespedes, too, and make him a conditional offer, and Yoenis will opt for a deal with another team burdened by fewer restrictions.

  10. Paul Sorensen said, on November 11, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Personally, I too am in favor of getting Greinke and Cespedes both. But one key is whether management sees either of them as a good fit, both as players, and as teammates in the clubhouse. The importance of chemistry, yada yada, has been and will pretty much continue to be debated here and elsewhere, but I don’t think there’s any doubt that Sabean, and maybe Evans too, definitely look for “Giant kind of guys”. Cespedes might be that, but not sure about Greinke. He doesn’t exactly strike me as warm and cuddly and able to chew the fat (or the chaw) with the likes of Madbum and Buster…. As long as he helps the team win, and as long as he’s not disruptive, I don’t think that matters a whole lot….

  11. blade3colorado said, on November 11, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    Leake, Zimmerman and Anderson for free agent pitching. Get at least one of these guys. For hitting – all in for Jason Heyward, who is s way better fit at the phone park, is young and will get better, and has a stable personality (unlike Cespedes). Tall order, but the Giants can afford it.

    Secondary wish list – Fowler to go along with the pitching options I mentioned.

  12. Paul Sorensen said, on November 11, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    Yes, Steve, that all sounds good too. Just because I am in favor of the G’s getting Greinke and Cespedes, I honestly don’t think they will. Heyward would be great, but I also doubt they’ll pay the coin that he will command. Leake and Zimmerman are definite possibilities. I’ve always liked Dexter Fowler. Or maybe I just like his name. Kind of like a jazz man.

    • blade3colorado said, on November 11, 2015 at 10:35 pm

      Or serial killer.

  13. Bozo said, on November 12, 2015 at 5:41 am

    Get Fister on the cheap and let Rags sort him out.
    Go for Zimmerman, tell Leake to fuck himself.
    Get Upton for LF

    • xoot said, on November 12, 2015 at 7:37 am

      that sounds both excellent and feasible

  14. alleykat69 said, on November 12, 2015 at 7:14 am

    So if the Giants go tell Leake “to go fuck himself”,do they supply the dildo?

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