Not The Best Deal?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 4, 2015

This Grienke decision that’s gotten dragged out tells me one thing: neither offer is that good and his agent is shopping the offers to other clubs. Why else would they be waiting so long? Typically, all you need is two offers to create a competition but with the Dodgers claiming new financial restraint and the Giants never wanting to truly compete with anyone since the Zito fiasco, it’s possible that both offers are underwhelming for a free agent like ZG.

We’ll see. Maybe a decision comes today. And maybe he signs with a dark horse……….

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unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:20 am

I’m sure there are like 5 teams in the bidding.

RIP Scott Weiland. From Zumie on the last thread
- unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:28 am
  
  This is from Velvet Revolver. A fairly kick-ass band.
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:23 am

“Let’s fast forward the clock five years and look at the San Francisco Giants lineup: leadoff hitter and now left fielder – Kelby Tomlinson, second – second basemen Joe Panik, third – third basemen Matt Duffy, cleanup and now playing first base – Buster Posey, fifth – Right Fielder Jarrett Parker, Sixth – shortstop Brandon Crawford, Seventh – catcher Andrew Susac, Eight – Center Fielder Mac Williamson, Ninth – Ace and just signed a six-year contract and entering his 30’s is Madison Bumgarner. Looks pretty similar to September of 2015 doesn’t it? Well that’s what the front office is looking at in the future. Bobby Evans and Brain Sabean have never shied away from off season moves and always looking for a big name to sign while not neglecting the farm system. That is what has made this dynasty such a powerful one. All players in this hypothetical lineup came up through the Giants farm system. Some came up fast, some slow. But the future looks bright for the Giants offense. How does their rotation look? With Madison Bumgarner, Zack Grienke (crossing fingers), Chris Heston, Clayton Blackburn, and Tyler Beede the rotation looks pretty solid with a healthy amount of young arms mixed with veteran talent.”

The aforementioned opening paragraph is from a very interesting column I just read:

http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/article_external/what_will_the_san_francisco_giants_look_like_in_five_years/s1_7899_19990297?mb_edition=5248&linksrc=mb_favorites_head
- chipower9 said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:41 am
  
  Not that far-fetched, IMO.
  - blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:55 am
    
    Agree Chi. I still see Belt gone, so I see us getting a new 1st baseman or moving Posey to 1st (my preference). That bumps Susac up to the starting catcher . . . or, get a veteran via trade. Posey is approaching the age, where all outstanding catchers start breaking down and playing more at other positions. Here is a blurb from this article I just read: “Buster Posey hasn’t been getting better so much as he has been playing more games at first base. He has had 600 or more plate appearances in three out of the last four seasons. That is unheard of for a catcher, but the Giants have to get him into the lineup anyway they can. He is their best hitter by far. Posey highlights the problem with rankings. Yes, he is the best catcher in baseball, but that ranking doesn’t do him justice. He is head and shoulders above everyone at the position.” Consequently, I see him being moved if not next season, then the following season. Regardless, he will continue to PLAY A LOT AT FIRST BASE. BOOK IT!
    
    Regarding the pitching staff, I don’t really like Heston, but I can see Blackburn and Beede in the rotation going forward – if not this year, then next season for sure. I also see them possibly being used as trade bait.
    
    Like Willie, I like Williamson, but don’t know about Parker.
  - chipower9 said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:02 am
    
    Agree on all points, Steve. Although, based on their production last year, Parker very well could end up with the team before Williamson.
    
    Small sample sizes for both, and I think Williamson got most of the press, as he is supposed to be the guy with pop in his bat, but Parker blew him (and those of us who watched) away.
    
    Again, very small sample sizes. I see both vying for a trip to the big club after both getting their “cup of coffee” last year.
    
    Jarrett Parker:
    21 G, 54 PA, 49 AB – .347, .407, .755, 1.163 – 6 HR, 2 2B.
    
    Mac Williamson:
    10 G, 34 PA, 32 AB – .219, .235, .281, .517 – 0 HR, 1 3B.
    
    Williamson really did himself no favors. Dude looked completely lost at the plate, and I also think that Parker looked better in the OF.
    
    They will both get good looks this year in ST, but I can see only one of them possibly cracking the roster right now.
  - xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:06 am
    
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/san-francisco-giants-top-10-prospects/#.VmHV8p2Is9g.twitter
    
    Short article but with links to stats for all 10. Chris Shaw? Well, let’s see.
willedav said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:34 am

I think Greinke could hold value for next few year if not longer. lesser lights like Samarz and Leake, doubtful.

Susac remains a large ?. I doubt he is near as bad as he looked last year, but to be everyday player he’ll have to improve at the plate, esp vs. RHP. He seemed to be hitting better before he got hurt, but really has had very few ABs, so it’s tough to see what kind of hitter he really is, yet. Potential, sure.

I have high hopes for Williamson as RH. Parker, idk, could be another bowker gang guy capable of big slumps where he doesn’t make contact. Didn’t look great in the OF either. I’d rather see J Heyward in Giants OF 2016 and taking over RF once Pence is done.

How many SF position players made it from 2010 to 2014 ring #3 beside Posey?
- xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:49 am
  
  Pablo, although he played the bench for most of the 2010 PS.
chipower9 said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:41 am

RIP, Scott Weiland. Thanks for the share on the last thread, Zume…
chipower9 said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:42 am

snarkk and Pawlie (from last thread) – Mini-Flapalooza in Scottsdale would be badass. I will let you know when I have solid dates.
xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:03 am

the panda made his decision around Thanksgiving last year, so Greinke’s a bit behind the curve, but not much. And Greinke’s choice is a close call. I can see why he’s taking time. He pays Calif. income tax with either SF or LA, so that factor doesn’t matter — as between those two. And he has no apparent ax to grind against the bums (as Pablo had against the Giants). LA’s trying to convince him that they’ll pull things together and keep Puig in a poke. SF’s trying to convince him that China Basin will be the best home he’ll ever have, and that the Giants are serious about adding an OF who can hit. Or something like that. In the meantime, the offers probably rise, too. I wonder how the Giants amazing manager/coaching staff stability and success weigh in. Bochy and Co. must look awfully good to a guy who saw DTT fail to control Puig and Eithier in the bums’ dugout.
- chipower9 said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:08 am
  
  I see no way that LA looks better than the Giants unless LA adds an extra year. I imagine both are offering similiar deals $/year-wise. I hope the Giants can land Grienke for 5 at about 160 or so.
  
  And remember, Grienke is the one in the past who said that when multiple offers are on the table, he would take an offer worth one dollar more. If he was being truthful, I think that is outright fucking stupid. Come on, if your choices are between LA and SF, and LA is offering one buck more, that makes no damn sense. Our yard is a pitcher’s park, and anyone with a brain has to see the Giants are superior when you look at the manager and coaches.
  
  Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. Hopefully we know sooner rather than later.
  - alleykat69 said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:45 am
    
    It could come down to let’s say a larger bag of sunflower seeds for Grienke at that 1.00 figure then the dog hairs are willing to offer Chi…
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:12 am

Addendum to my 8:55am post – I also think Trevor Brown can handle the back up catching role, if not necessarily replace Posey in the starter’s role.
chipower9 said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:09 am

From what I have seen of Brown, he very well could be a servicable back-up, but I do not see him as the answer as a starting C.
- Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:32 am
  
  he’s just a guy.
djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:49 am

Belt is such a goner. The only questions are when and for who (whom?)…
- blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 12:47 pm
  
  I’m thinking Houston Loo. They desperately need a 1st baseman. Same deal with the Pirates.
  - giants54 said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:39 pm
    
    Do either have spare quality controllable young pitching?
  - blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:59 pm
    
    Mike Fiers, Lance McCullers and Collin McHugh . . . Belt might be sufficient to get Fiers or McCullers, whom I both like.
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:49 am

I wonder how much Greinke’s family situation plays into it. He’s married and has a child. They may decide to not make a big change at this time. Or maybe Greinke’s wife would be all-in on a new adventure in their lives.
- djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 11:52 am
  
  I’m sure she’s all in on $180 million…
  - zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 12:14 pm
    
    But what if the Dodgers offer $180 million and the Giants offer $185 million? It’s hard to think of $5 million being kind of insignificant, but at some point, it can be to the super-rich.
  - blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 12:36 pm
    
    If it’s some broad making the decision, I’m sure she is thinking, “Los Angeles? San Francisco? WTF?” and then telling hubby, “Babykins, we’re getting the fuck out of this war zone and heading North.”
  - unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 12:49 pm
    
    You can insulate yourself from the carnage pretty well with $180 mill.
    
    Watch Soylent Green . . .
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 12:17 pm

The longer this takes, the more I’m thinking Greinke will end up back with the Dodgers. The Giants should have already blown his mind with an offer, if they were super-seriously intent on getting him no matter what. If they’re trying to barely eek out a better offer than the Dodgers, then that doesn’t seem like it’s going to work, IMO.
xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 1:32 pm

Baggarly and Schulman (on twitter) just acknowledged that they got duped by the same fake Joel Sherman twitter account that led to my post last night (based on someone else’s repeat of a fake JS tweet). Somebody’s having a blast over the collective Greinke anxiety.
- djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 1:45 pm
  
  Don’t feel bad Xootie. I still think Dewey beat Truman…
  - xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 2:28 pm
    
    My younger son at age 6 was sure that Barry Bonds just ate his vegetables.
  - djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 4:02 pm
    
    lulz!
djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 1:43 pm

Barry Bonds officially Marlins new hitting coach…
unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Lackey to the Cubs – 2 / $36 mill.

Didn’t want him anyway.
- alleykat69 said, on December 4, 2015 at 2:44 pm
  
  Got that right Chuck!
  Can’t stand Lackey!!!!!
  And like I mentioned before..When Arnold pulled the mask off of the aliens face in Predator it was Lackey’s butt ugly face..Thank the universe I don’t have to see him in a Giants uni for 162 games plus playoffs of course this year!!
  - unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 2:49 pm
    
    Tell us how you really feel!
    
    And, in the ‘who gives a shit’ pile, the Arizona D-Bags have unveiled
    .
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    new unis!
    
    .
    
    For a team in existence about 1/4 of my life, they’ve changed their uniforms about 15 times.
  - zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:02 pm
    
    Man, that fried my hide when they won a championship in their FOURTH year of existence. At least they’ve suffered since.
  - xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:18 pm
    
    Baggarly showed a pic of the 8 new az unis and asked “so what are they going wear in the 9th inning?”
  - zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm
    
    🙂
    I saw that San Diego is going retro with a brown jersey for Friday home games. The Padres achieved an amazing quality of dookie brown with those old brown unis.
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm

And, of course, Brenly didn’t take it well when they jettisoned a lot of the team the next season. They ran Brenly out on a rail.
- unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:38 pm
  
  Yeah, for winning a WS in his all-too-brief coaching career, he hasn’t had a sniff at a coaching job since.
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:26 pm

That video that Chuck posted of Velvet Revolver was also a good reminder of how good those ex-Guns and Roses musicians are. Guns and Roses was very talented, but so quickly imploded after gaining such rapid success.
- unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 3:40 pm
  
  Seeing as it took Axl 20 years to get Chinese Democracy out . . . Izzy Stradlin and Slash were the soul of that sound.
  
  Velvet Revolver was very very good for their short lifespan.
  - djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 4:04 pm
    
    My sources tell me that a GNR reunion is being negotiated and very possible within a year or so…
Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 4:15 pm

AZ now in on Grienke. Not a surprise at all, ZG camp is looking for a better offer than is being offered by the Giants or the Dodgers.
- djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 4:18 pm
  
  He’s probably holding out for 6/192. That ain’t for us.
  I think we may land Zobrist and deal Belt 10 minutes later…
- zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 4:20 pm
  
  It’s not the worst thing if Greinke goes to the D-Backs. It would still be a set-back for the Dodgers. The Dodgers’ 3 division titles in a row was built on the Kershaw/Greinke one/two punch.
  - unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:01 pm
    
    If anything that bomarera our chances. Those div titles got them bupkus.
unca_chuck said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:02 pm

Wtf? Bolsters. Phone+Bart = weirdness
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm

Aaron Hernandez has been a choir boy in prison . . . uhh, except for the shank they just found hidden in his cell.
Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm

Grienke to a dark horse— D-backs. Pretty much exactly as today’s thread went.
- blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:12 pm
  
  They signed him?
  - djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:13 pm
    
    Appears that way…
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:15 pm

Wow! I am loving this . . . 2nd best thing to us not getting him (per Zum’s post which I agree with). Not worried at all.
- gianthead said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:41 pm
  
  And hell no on Heyward…he will be way way overpaid if the Angels are in on him…..
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:17 pm

No idea where you guys are getting your info, but I am done bookmarking ESPN. Those MOFOs are always the last to know shit. This must be the 4th or 5th time in the last year, their info was from someone else.
djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:20 pm

6 year deal – no numbers yet…
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:21 pm

Can’t wait until I read the fan comments in the LA Times (Zum you’re on the clock).
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:30 pm

Dodgers with 4 left handers. Hilarious.
- djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:32 pm
  
  Another reason to get Cespedes…
  - blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:35 pm
    
    Cueto (with elbow problems) is the only high end righty left. I wonder if the Bums make a run for him?
Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:35 pm

If Samarg goes to Dodgers I’m going to be pissed. I’d like to have him. I like him way more than Leake.
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 5:39 pm

Giants need to move fast. Pickings are getting slim.
Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:11 pm

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 1m1 minute ago
greinke deal reported to be $206M by @Ken_Rosenthal. thats $34.3M/per. paul goldschmidt’s whole contract: $32M
gianthead said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:12 pm

$206 million…ridiculous. I was off by $56 million during my in-season prediction. Bus as I said the other day I would go $160 for 5 years tops…so f him.
gianthead said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:18 pm

And prescient lead Flav today…just read it after hearing of this crazy ass contract….hopefully Smardramjam does not think he is now worth $30 mill a year. Would think Dodgers go after Cueto super hard.
- Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:20 pm
  
  seemed clear to me after he fiddled around for a few days with both offers just sitting there. Everyone know ZG only cares about the $$$$. Giants/Dodgers didn’t bring the heat so they shopped the offers and got the D-backs to bite. They’re fucked, by the way, lol
Bozo said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:20 pm

If AZ signing Grienke means we end up with Leake, I’ll hate that Zack of shit forever.
- Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:22 pm
  
  hopefully Smarg who has way better shit and who I’ve always liked. Leake’s a GB pitcher, he never really made sense in SF long term……..
Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:29 pm

I’d like to point out one thing that’s been pissing me off for the last hour since I heard ZG signed with AZ: I sorted out what was happening this morning in my main thread. With zero inside info. Why can’t the national guys or the fucking beat guys figure this stuff out WITH access to the front offices? ALL OF THEM said this was down to the Giants and Dodgers and now guys like Pav (who I love) and others are saying they never saw the AZ thing happening.
I didn’t see the specific AZ thing happening either, but it was obvious that ZG didn’t have a blow-away offer on the table. How could they just not put 2 and 2 together and at least SUGGEST what an outsider like me saw clearly this morning?
djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:29 pm

Psychic Flav strikes again…
- Flavor said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:50 pm
  
  this was just a case of me thinking this through. I’ve been in some high end contract negotiations in my former career. The only reason this shit drags out is if the $ isn’t right (maybe the terms, but in this case it was obviously the dough). Clearly they were shopping it, got the D-backs to bite. Good for the Grienke’s….
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:32 pm

Pav’s not the Lone Ranger . . . ESPN just posted this . . . KURKJIAN ON GREINKE: NO ONE SAW THIS COMING.
gianthead said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:43 pm

Sorry I put this comment on the wrong reply but hell no on Heyward…
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 6:48 pm

Olney tweet . . .

Follow

Buster OlneyVerified account
‏@Buster_ESPN
BOS botched Lester talks& it cost them $217m to make up for that. LAD could have negotiated a Greinke deal in spring; big mistake, turns out
xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 7:19 pm

Most baseball FA negotiations don’t look like other deals I’ve seen. Greinke’s deal is different. His agent may have taken a simple rational approach — minimum 6 years and top dollar (oh, btw, Price’s price is the price to beat). Neither the Giants nor the bums wanted to commit to that length at that price. But other FA decisions involve personal idiosyncratic factors. Pablo’s decision last year was a perverse version of that approach. Cespedes’s original contract with Oakland depended on their promise to make him the starting CF immediately. Etc. Most huge commercial negotiations don’t have the personal preference factor.
Macdog said, on December 4, 2015 at 7:20 pm

I like it. Dodgers lose a Giant killer, D-Backs will be crippled by that signing for the next six years, and the Giants — as tempting as it would have been to bring someone in the caliber of Greinke to complement MadBum — won’t be saddled with such a ridiculous contract.
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 7:28 pm

If Samardzija goes over $110 million, then adios. I would much rather have Iwakuma if alphabet gets greedy (which is likely after Price and Greinke hit the jackpot). Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projection system has Iwakuma at $13.3 million over three seasons. Give him $15 million @ 3 years and see if that makes him move south to the Phone Park.
- blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2015 at 6:20 am
  
  Forget what I said about Alphabet. Temporary insanity. MOFO isn’t worth it . . . http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/why_jeff_samardzijas_rumored_contract_is_a_big_problem_for_mlb/s1_12680_19995343?mb_edition=5251&linksrc=mb_favorites_head
snarkk said, on December 4, 2015 at 7:54 pm

I am pleased the Giants did not get Greinke. His AZ deal w/ no state income tax = a deal with SF at over $225M , which is ludicrous. Giants just need to get some type of arm now, and get a damn left-fielder…
- pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 7:56 pm
  
  Whatever happened to that guy Ludacris? Is it a guy? A group? A topical gel?
  - snarkk said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:11 pm
    
    Do they still make Vitalis? Is anyone here old enough to remember that stuff?…
  - djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:19 pm
    
    I’ve used ’em all, Snarkk.
    Vitalis, Wildroot, Score, Groom ‘N Clean, etc.
    Vitalis also made what I believe was the first men’s hair spray called Dry Control.
    Maravich did commercials for it…
  - djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:27 pm
  - pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:41 pm
    
    Alberto VO., Brylcreem, too.
pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 7:55 pm

I’m rather relieved. Hey, ZG gets to beat LA at least a few times. Cuhrazy.
snarkk said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:00 pm

I wish the Giants would just keep quiet about who they pursue. I don’t see the PR value in letting it be known they are after high cost pitchers, who they eventually do not sign. Keep things on the down low like Ariz, and surprise us…
- pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm
  
  like, sign Mike Pelfry?
  - pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:12 pm
    
    Pelfrey [spelling]
  - Macdog said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:33 pm
    
    Pelfrey signed with Tigers.
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm

The Dodger fan blues, with F-bombs flying:

Well, fuck that.

by Catherine the Blue on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:06 PM up reply

easier to swallow than the Giants, but it is still fucking shit.

by RunRunItsHim on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:07 PM up reply

I can’t believe this
why the Dbacks?

by shawism on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:10 PM up reply

Greenbacks.

by joa_quin on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:10 PM up reply

I bet they got hosed

by hee came hee seop’d he choi’d on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:12 PM up reply

and magic was talking shit about jim buss lol

by ClayDavis on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:11 PM reply

The D’backs?

by berkowit28 on Dec 4, 2015 | 5:14 PM up reply
- pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:08 pm
  
  Greenbacks. Good one!
pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:07 pm

Tomorrow the NY Times is running its first front-page editorial, on the gun epidemic, since 1920.
- snarkk said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:15 pm
  
  I’m starting to think about escape routes and how to protect myself from shooters when I’m in public places. Seriously…
  - pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:38 pm
    
    who can blame one? what a sad commentary on so-called civilized modern life
  - xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:14 pm
    
    Former colleague of mine, now a Calif. judge (appointed by liberal J. Brown) once brought his Glock to my office to show me that it contained enough steel to set off a metal detector. Nice gun. I’m taking a dialectical approach, myself. Being a 64 year old in Oakland, I could use a Glock for self defense. But if I get one, I’ll also become a gun control activist. I’m serious.
Carstie Clausen said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:17 pm

So all the flapping in the breeze by the baseball beans didn’t exactly amount to a full hill but catching the flip on the Flap keeps one ahead of the curve.
snarkk said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:21 pm

In brew pub watching Pelicans v Cavs. Compared to Dubs, this is torture…
pawliekokonuts said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm

edit my 8:41 to Alberto VO5
- djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 8:50 pm
  
  Yes, VO is made by Seagram’s. Works better…
  - xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:15 pm
    
    my father really liked VO when he was young
  - djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:25 pm
    
    I still do, Xoot. I don’t think anyone under 50 drinks it. They used to call it a highball when you mixed it with ginger ale. When I was young, the old guys in the bar said I would graduate to scotch, but I never did. Just the smell of it makes me sick…
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:00 pm

Dodger fans, still throwing F-bombs, and one “gosh damn”:

Scott Andes says
December 4, 2015:
I hate the front office. I really hate them. These are the brains? These guys are supposed to be the clever guys? They break up the best one-two starting pitching punch we’ve had since Koufax/Drsydale, and then they let him walk to a division rival. You know why? According to reports they were unwilling to give him a sixth year. They let the small market Dbacks outbid them? I’ll have more on this later when I am not seething angry. Let it sink in though guys. The Dodgers new front office refused to spend money they have plenty of to let their second best starting pitcher sign with a division rival.
You suck Friedman, you really really suck.

Blake Estes says:
December 4, 2015
The giants won it all 3 times in the last 6 years. We haven’t won the gosh damn thing since 88. This is LA. All or mother fucking nothing. Ya I’m mad. Can you tell?
zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:05 pm

At Price’s press conference today, he raved about how young and talented the Red Sox are. Young? Pablo, Hanley, Ortiz, and Pedroia? And I’m not sure their young guys are ALL that talented.
xoot said, on December 4, 2015 at 9:54 pm

Was (KY’s own) Anthony Davis the best player on the court tonight in the Cleveland v. NOLA game?
- snarkk said, on December 4, 2015 at 10:12 pm
  
  Yeah. For the half or so I saw it, I thought at times LeBron looked bored or something. Curry and the Dubs are infinitely more watchable…
blade3colorado said, on December 4, 2015 at 10:05 pm

Unrelated baseball question – Google provides free cloud storage of 15 GB. Unfortunately, I have 42 GB stored there and they want me to upgrade my storage. Me? I want to copy all the files (mostly photos) onto my PC hard drive. Afterwards, I will delete all my photos, files, etc., on the Google Plus site. Is there a bullet proof process (web link) to do this, whereby the photos are still accessible by date? Thanks in advance . . .
- blade3colorado said, on December 5, 2015 at 6:16 am
  
  Disregard. Resolved.
djloo27 said, on December 4, 2015 at 10:34 pm

Didn’t fact check this, but someone on the radio said Dodgers open the season vs. AZ next year.
Also said no state tax in AZ.
Oh, who gives a shit…goodnight
- zumiee said, on December 4, 2015 at 10:53 pm
  
  Kershaw vs. Greinke will be a trippin’ thing to see.