When News Is Not News
Here’s a good example of why I can’t stand the hot stove season: Someone named Jesse Sanchez from mlb.com says that The O’s and White Sox have emerged as the favorites for The Big Cespy. But he also says the Angels and Giants are “in the mix.” And not only that, The Rangers are “monitoring the situation.”
Look, that is not news. That’s a guy blabbering out a bunch of bullshit hoping to see his nit-twit follower list go up with some re-tweets and whatever else you need to gain followers on Twitter.
Anyway, nothing new here I just wanted to pop up a new thread. Regarding Goff, look he appears to be the real deal. And I would take him, ABSOLUTELY, before Paxton Lynch. But what would be the point? This isn’t the sexiest idea, but I would trade down so I could draft 2 stud offensive linemen in the first round. Even if I thought the Niners had the capacity to develop Goff, which they don’t, whoever they put back there is going to get fucking killed until they fix the right side of their line.
And I don’t know that Goff is a once-in-a-gen guy. I’m not gonna shat myself if we pass on him. Look, he threw 6 td’s vs freaking Air Force. So let’s not start smoking each other’s poles just yet over this guy. Fix the non-sexy parts of the team, then go out and try to get a stud QB.
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Dee, du, dee, dee. This just in. Giants are “kicking tires”. “In the mix”. Retweet me brah.
lulz. I use that all the time now. And I think of you every time I type it.
By popular demand, from the last post. OK, Craig said that it was a close to average comment 😉
“Mom always had pork and sauerkraut on New Years Day- we’ve always kept up her tradition. I make my own sauerkraut and this year I’m smoking a pork butt to go with the Kraut and tiny new potatoes.
Mom is now 92 and in assisted living, she’s always been a baseball fan and she was my backyard catcher and little league game day driver and spectator. Never liked it much when I’d get thrown out of the game.
BTW, I’m trying to convince her that Blanco will be going to the HOF..
My resolution? i’m not going to watch Clyde’s Auto Shop Lug Wrench Bowl..”
Twin, we know about your love of Blanco and I’m wondering where you stand on the Giants and another outfielder? Go get one? Or leave the OF as Blanco, Pa-(almost)Gan, Pence? If you are for “go get one” and I have to believe you are, who do you think is the most realistic, best option?
Yes. I am interested in hearing Twin’s spin on another OFer…
*Pence- a no brainer unless the Injury Gods have caught up with him
* Pagan- a healthy and motivated Pagan in his walk year would go a long way in solving some OF issues. Hardly a given, however.
* Blanco- maybe the most valuable since he can play all three OF postions, and pretty well
* Blanks- well, he’s big.
* Most likely acquisition IMO- Gordon( preferred) or Gerardo Parra ( leave CF to Pagan and Blanco)
Hope your holidays have been good to you and Merna, Michael. Wishing you and yours a healthy, happy, and fortuitous 2016.
I’ve got garlic and a crucifix on the front door.
Flav, Schulman today asked same ? you did couple threads ago, re: Chapman’s case. His take is trade should not have happened til mlb (etc.) sorts out what’s going on. Gal unfortunately refused to testify, but there is certainly lot of ugly stuff here.
In other news, Knicks player gets robbed and shot in the knee by thugs who boxed in his Uber ride at 4:30 AM outside strip club in Queens. I saw this guy play college ball, Cleanthony Early and he was great. Just didn’t have to deal with stuff like this at Wichita State I guess.
Goff is a monster, but he is one of half dozen very good ones in Pac 12. Superior wide outs and offensive game planners make it a fun league to watch. Tex Tech QB made some fantastic plays last night trying to keep his team in it. You and Wilco romp with Fournette?
The Fournette tournies are multi-day, they won’t conclude until Sat. But I’m glad as hell I didn’t fade #7. He was a dominant beast. Now I need Delvin Cook to go “Johnny Jefferson” on Houston and I think he will.
What he said.
Well, the hot stove season can be underwhelming; but the Hot Stove show on MLB Network is good TV. Good analysis, and a pretty good amount of humor thrown in. I’m always sorry to see the Hot Stove show disappear when the season starts. I’m not fond of that MLB Central morning show that takes over when the season starts.
Craig – I mentioned that I would love to see Gott as a Niner, but I am afraid it would not turn out good for either Goff or the Niner Faithful, for the exact reason you mention. Of all the parts that need to be fixed, I think the priority is always the line (this is where games are won and lost…in the trenches). I also agree that Goff is not a once a generation guy, so I agree with you suggestion that the team trade down, get some good linemen, and choose a QB in the 2nd or maybe 3rd round. BTW…the Niners had a bit of success with picking a QB in the third round back in 1979.
Goff! Gott was a pitcher we had back in the 80’s. 🙂
DOH! Must have been having an 80s flashback! 😉
On one of the MLB Network shows last night, they did a really cool tribute to Ernie Banks and Yogi Berra. And then at the end of the tribute, they ran a list in honor of all the MLB folks we lost in 2015, and oh my goodness, it’s stunning to see how many we lose in a year. Sure, the math says we’ll lose that many in a year, but each name is a life, obviously, and a story. Joaquin Andujar, Daryl Hamilton, Lon Simmons, Al Rosen, Dave Henderson, and the list went on.
Hey Craig – maybe for the New Year, you can bless Flap Universe with a new BBOTD. :-p
So, after 5 years Twin’s computer, which I loved and it was awesome, finally conked out on me. It’s probably riddled with viruses or something. I’m going to have my IT buddy friend fire it up again at some point. But that computer had a “snipping tool” on it that i used for the BBOTD’s and the only computer I use right now is a Chromebook (unless I’m at work and I’m off for another week). So, maybe I’ll play around with the screen shot option on my chromebook but if that doesn’t work, I’m not the most technical guy in the world, this request might have to wait till Jan.
I offer an extended 75 year warranty
obviously this could change, but Paxton Lynch has done nada in this bowl game and we’re into the 2nd Q. I really hope the Niners don’t draft this guy…..
Yeah, no way in hell I want him. A lot of folks are choking their chickens over the dude…but I am not one of them.
If the Niners were going to trade down and look in the 2nd or 3rd rounds for a QB, the kid out of North Dakota State (Wentz) might be worth a look.
Wilco! Any idea what Paxton is owned in the KOC? I played in a half a dozen tourneys today at DK and he’s 48% owned! I own him 0% today, and going forward……
blade, thanks for the link in the last thread. I would’ve tried to keep even .05% of the merchandise. I can’t remember the whole story but do something like those ABA guys that got royalties in perpetuity from NBA. I guess Lucas will be okay with that $4B and whatnot. I don’t follow stock like you do but I would think Disney will be fine long term. ESPN is circling the drain though. I’ve seen that they’re losing hundreds of thousands if not millions of subscribers. Their content is shiate.
Yes, long term – I think Disney is a buy if they figure out how to resolve or address their ESPN problem. Disney and other traditional media EXTREMELY OVERPAID for sports content in the last decade. That is money already spent (e.g., Dodgers are laughing all the way to the bank) . . . Consequently, they are in big trouble, along with Time Warner, Comcast, DirecTV, Fox, and other large traditional media conglomerates, because NetFlix and other “over the top” media companies are eating their lunch. As pointed out in the article and video I’ve provided, advertising overall is growing, however, TV advertising is declining. TV advertising (in other words, ESPN and other cable properties they have) is approximately 43% of Disney’s total revenues. They are being “exploited by NetFlix and other direct-to-consumer offerings, as more and more television viewers cut the cord on cable and satellite channel bundles.” Greenfield, a stock analyst explains it much better than I . . . Additionally, I added this NY Times article which also does a good job explaining these issues.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/03/how-netflix-is-eating-big-medias-lunch-greenfield.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/business/media/disney-time-warner-media-investors-worry-about-tvs-future.html
Good points and interesting read. All the old media conglomerates are ultimately doomed imo. Well, except for HBO 🙂
I’ve watched Paxton a couple of times this year. I think this guy is all hype. He’s tall, strong and fast, that’s what all the scouts like. He seems to check down a lot to me. And that 7 td first half game was against freaking SMoooo. Reminds me of Brock Osweiler. Anyone want to spend a first rd pick on a “Brock Osweiler?” As I said in the main thread, I’d take Goff over him in a nano second.
although, full disclosure, I thought Tim Duncan was all hype and questioned whether his game would translate to NBA. Ha. Here’s a question for an in-thread thread, what is the WORST call you ever made about a player? Mine is Duncan and probably Tiger Woods. I thought he was all “name” when he first came out. lol.
I thought Marijuanavich (Marinovich) would be a very good NFL QB out of the University of Spoiled Children. The other who comes to mind is Ryan Leaf (out of Washington State). I thought both would be pretty damned good in the NFL. Swing and a miss on both!
good ones! I hope others join in, that would be fun. Would love to hear SAN DAWG’S response but I doubt he’ll read this, he doesn’t seem to be around much anymore.
If it does not catch on today, it would be a fun thread of and to itself…
San Diggity isn’t much of an off-season guy. I suspect (and hope) that he is back once baseball season kicks in…
Some have said that Greg Cook might have become the greatest QB ever.Bill Walsh included.The KC meds and staff ruined his arm.Parenthetically, he died in 2012,
I was positive Pedro Feliz would turn into an All Star, I’ve felt the same about Belt. Happy Pete probably has the better chance these days…
LMAO…when did Feliz last play? 2009? 2010??
good ex of how stats lie: Pax just completed his first decent pass of the game, 28 yards. But it was a horribly thrown ball that the receiver had to completely re-route to catch. Nearing halftime, this guy has looked awful.
Steve Smith coming back for one more year–one of my all time fav WR’s. Solid news.
Steve Smith Sr?
yes, sir.
That whole name change is hilarious to me. Dude is a tough mofo though. And nuts.
and his calves would make a greek god statue woozy. lulz.
Flav, Lynch is 0.8% owned in the KOC. It took me a while to find someone that has him. Maxdlury has him in a couple of his entries. I totally agree with you on the Osweiller comparison. Good call.
wow, that’s crazy only because of the discrepancy between what he’s owned in this tourney (but this IS only a 4 game slate). Man, I am pretty excited about today, I own NO ONE in that Memphis game, nobody is doing shit and there’s a shit load of guys owned 25–50%. Crazy. If this keeps up like half the field will be immediately eliminated before the 2nd game even starts.
Paxton and his $8100 salary currently has 3.06 measly points and we are half way thru the 3rd Q. LULZ!
Respectfully disagree on Goff. Take him now, sit him. You still have plenty of picks and cap room to rebuild the line immediately. That’s why the entire offensive coaching staff, at least, needs to be replaced so that FA Olinemen will sign. I’ve seen Goff, he’s got all the throws, and smart. If they pass on yet another Cal Qb, it will be a mistake. Goff will go to some dog meat team, might as well be Jed’s…
well, I did say take him before Paxton who was projected to go ahead of him. At least, he was before this bowl game. Man, just say NO to Pax.
Flav, have you seen this article on Steve Smith Sr? His heartfelt words for Jake Delhome are my personal favorite. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that you’ll enjoy the throw down with the Eagles fans.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/steve-smith-vs-the-world/
No, but this is hilarious, thanks for sharing. I never said I wanted to hang out with Sr. just like I loved his game and I think he’s one of the best WR’s of all time. lulz, thanks for the share tho
Not sure which irritates me more, Peyton Manning humming dumbass Nationwide commercial limericks to himself or announcers who say “things are getting chippy” after every single fucking dust up on a football field……..
I love it when things are getting chippy. That’s one of the best sports clichés of all time….as far as guys I swung and missed on coming out of college, I thought that Steph Curry would do nothing in the NBA. I figured since he was so small, bigger guards would just have to rough him up a little and that would be that.
HGH is oh so good…
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Dodgers sign Kazmir. 5 lefty starting rotation. Pretty wild.
Another reason for us to get Cespedes…
Loo, do you still like him at what he reportedly wants (a 10 year contract)? The more I think about the Mets taking a pass on him, the more I agree with them. He’s 31, which I consider old. Couple that contract demand with his age, and he reminds me of Rowand. His miniscule .328 on-base percentage, and his 141 strikeouts against just 33 walks also scares me off.
Plus, didn’t someone say he was a chain smoker? Shit, the dude could have a heart attack at Coors Field.
I would take that call . . . Anything beyond 5 years is reckless in my opinion. Good news about his SO propensity is that we have so many good hitters that don’t SO, so having a slugger like him with a terrible OBP wont hurt us much.
I would love Cespedes, but perhaps for only a contract that guarantees three years or so. And sure, some other team will offer more than that (in years and coin), and if that is the case, I am good with that.
I still feel that Parra is one of the best fits for what is left re: FA OFers. Dude can play all three OF positions and hit lead-off.
They will trade someone. Have to, as that rotation is ridiculous (and not flexible).
No way on 10 years. Just don’t know what the market is now…
Would his agent hang up the phone if they offered 5/110?
Only 51 days until pitchers and catchers report…
We crushed LH pitching last year so I guess the Dodgers aren’t building a rotation to beat us….
Kazmir has never played on an NL team. He has a career 4.34 ERA in 166 innings against NL teams. Loved reading that! 🙂
A band of masked robbers boxed in New York Knicks player Cleanthony Early’s cab with their vehicles as he left a strip club Wednesday, demanding his “gold” before shooting him in the leg, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press.
The theft comes about 10 days after Knicks forward Derrick Williams was robbed of $617,000 in jewelry from his home by two women whom he had taken home from a Manhattan club. Police are still looking for the suspects.
Maybe these guys ought to invest in stocks and bonds versus gold chains . . . Just a thought.
they took the gold caps off his teeth. lulz…that was the funniest thing I’ve read this year.
ESPN story I read said they “asked” for his gold caps . . . Didn’t know they actually got them. Hahaha . . .
Righty Brandon McCarthy is filing a grievance per his Twitter feed . . .
Brandon McCarthy ✔ @BMcCarthy32
.@Dodgers This is blatant handism and I’m filing a hostile workplace grievance
1:55 PM – 30 Dec 2015
839 839 Retweets 1,890 1,890 likes
Interesting article about consequences of Bums going all lefty . . .
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/67377/dodgers-lean-left-with-addition-of-southpaw-scott-kazmir
Twin, regarding your mom: I’ve never forgotten how she was with you in the stands in Pittsburgh when Maz hit his homer in 1960.
And dumped her soda on a Yankee fan. By mistake of course 😉
Ever heard of Rachael Ray? Who hasn’t? She even has a brand of catfood. A tip for her dinner guests- avoid the Salmon Pâté.
Lakers win and Warriors lose. When’s the last time that happened?
Surprised how badly the Warriors lost (regardless of Curry not being there).
Now all we need is a Sixers win over Kings to get the bizarro NBA hat trick.
And the Kings seem intent on helping the Sixers accomplish that.
As more baseball writers make public their Hall of Fame ballots, it appears there’s a definite softening of their stance against the PED-suspected guys. Probably not enough yet to get any of them in, but it’s trending in that direction for future years of voting. My theory on that is that the writers want to eventually put Piazza and Ortiz in the Hall, but they can’t do that and ignore Bonds and Clemens, without looking like they’re playing favorites, even though a lot of the writers do have a visceral dislike of Bonds and Clemens.
Well Fuck me. Trevoyne Boykin arrested in San Antonio for fighting with a cop. I guess I am out of the tournament. Unfucking believeable!
I just read that. Dude, I am so sorry, what fucking horrible luck. This is why I hate FD, as I said earlier in the week.
Flavor said, on December 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm (Edit)
honestly, the main reason I can’t pull the trigger on a KingoftheCampus team is because it’s at FD and line ups lock today. I don’t want that much cheddar out there and not be able to change my LU if one of my guys gets hurt, or suspended or something. That’s something FD needs to change, the LU lock thing. They need to change over to how DK handles it.
Yep. This totally blows. I should have known better. Every year guys get suspended from the Alamo Bowl cause they can’t fucking handle themselves on the Riverwalk. I hate San Antonio. Overrated tourist trap of a city.
what % was he owned
24%
if it’s any consolation, and I know it’s not, I follow all the DFS high rollers on twitter and some of them, including headchopper, are beside themselves with grief.
Yeah, Maxdalury has five of the current top 10 entires, including the top spot with a score of 201 (no players left).
You would be in great shape with Williams, Fournette and Ross. Couldn’t ask for better performances from those three.
I know. Need Cook to go bezerko
I’ve also got a Williams/Four/Grant/Ross going that still has Carrington, Wright and Kittle….
he’s also still in jail, if that makes you feel any better. Here is a pretty amusing tweet from HC as soon as the news broke:
headchopper @headchopper 17m17 minutes ago
Trevone, Hold on, I’m coming for you! Let me put my pants on first
Bond is 5k if you want to go bail him out and punch him in the face a few times……
That is awesome!
That’s too bad about boykin. Saw TCU couple times, very exciting offense. Them and Oregon would have been fun game to watch.
Flav, here’s an epic fail: back in 80s (?) buddy of mine who had moved back to Encinitas wanted to start “rotisserie league”, only time I ever played any fantasy stuff. And I picked David Green the year he was on Giants.
haha. last place.
48 year anniversary of the Ice Bowl.
Twin, give your best to you and yours (and hold the kraut), I’ve seen and read a lot of stories regarding Greg Cook and how good he was his rookie year. Shame he didn’t reach his potential. Didn’t hear he had passed.
The upshot of losing Cook was that Bill Walsh developed the west coast style of attacking defenses horizontally with short passes to account for the lack of arm strength of Cook’s back up, Virgil Carter (and HIS backup Sam Wyche),
Happy new years one and all! Just got back from Tahoe and it was colder than hell. But great skiing.
Paxton already looks like Colin Kaepernick. Goff may not be the man, but i’d rather have him than Gabbert.
What the Niners hould do is draft Goff, park him behind Gabbert (DeBerg) for a couple years and get the line in shape.
This of course is predicated on Baalke getting the heave-ho. I don;t want him running another draft.
Hey Zum,
I just got off the phone with my dad. He went to see Patti Smith last night at the Fillmore. Apparently Michael Stipe surprised the crowd by opening the show with a handful of covers. I knew your a fellow REM fan, so you would appreciate that.
Oh man! Very cool!
Dalvin Cook might as well be in jail with Boykin. Their QB is on one leg and they still just keep throwing it. FSU OC is an idiot.
I was about to type the same thing.
Cook 10 rushes for 11 yards and a fumble, he’s not exactly lighting it up either.
Happy New Year, Flap Universe! Wishing you all a 2016 that is blessed with gratitude, the best of health, happiness, and good fortune! Be safe…it is amateur day out there!
I am outta here in a few…will hit the brewery for one or two, and then heading home to hunker-down and watch OU-Clemson, and later, Michigan State-Bama.
Go OU – BOOMER SOONER!
Oh, and only 50 days until pitchers and catchers report. FOUR in SEVEN!
Chi, thanks for posting the countdown. I appreciate that.
One other issue for Niners is to find a running back or 3 who can hold up. I realize it may have well been time to let Gore walk, but while he gave them 8 solid years, no one else has been able to last 8 freaking games.
Plus he could block, and obviously Niners need all the blockers they can get.
excellent point. I think they are going to make a HUGE mistake thinking Hyde is locked into the RB spot but that guy just seems like confetti to me…..
Hey, a Cook TD!
lulz. that ain’t gonna get ‘er done.
Wishing all the best “For the Flap Family of Knuckleheads on New Years Night and into 2016′!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Going out for a early dinner with a gal friend and chillin later for a movie at home. Kat’s being good and drinking at home! Be safe all tonight!
Checkpoints are nobody’s friend!
Thanks, Kat!
Have a nice evening, Flappers; you’re an awesome group of folks!
skink!
Lol BF!!
Yeah no skink point driving for me tonight!
Everyone just chill tonight, no skink&drive!!
I felt sorry for the Oklahoma punter after he shanked a 24 yarder. He came to the sideline and his team treated him like the Invisible Man. Lotta pressure on these kids.
I’m currently reading a baseball book called “The Grind,” about the way baseball seasons are a long, challenging journey for teams and their family members. It uses the ’14 Nationals as its focus. We know how that season ended for the Nats. 🙂
It’s written by Barry Svrluga, a Washington Post sportswriter.
Have a safe and sane New Years, y’all. Burn em if ya got em. Cheers
The NL West just got even more interesting; the Dodgers are signing Maeda to a big contract. The wild, wild West.
“ESPN.com’s 2015 MLB “Person of the Year”
For the first time, we asked a group of our MLB experts to pick our ESPN.com person of the year in Major League Baseball. We asked each voter to rank their top 10 based on these two questions: Who defined baseball in 2015? When you think of 2015, who is the person you think of?”
Bryce Harper?????????????????
What a clown award. What clown questions. What a clown recipient.
Happy New Year, Flappers!…
The idiocy of the HOF continues. Reading article on how Trevor Hoffman should be voted in this year or next, which would likely be before Kent and certainly Bonds get voted in. A guy that played everyother day at most, faced 3 hitters, and who had numerous big time clutch failures in his career. Nonsensical he should be in before the others…
Time for James Harden to STFU and look in the mirror. A day after making comments about Klay Thompson not being best shooting G in league he drops 38 on you in your backyard.
And GS beats Rockets for 7th straight time in reg season, this time without Curry or Ezeli (or Barnes or Barbosa). Everyone remembers what happened in playoffs, something Rockets might not even be in.
10 pts 11 boards 16 assists for Green.
That might be the best win of the year. 4 guys down and out of your rotation, you beat a division rival full of BS on their home floor. Klay must have been lovin’ it downin’ those J’s for an in-your-face statement to Harden. Sweet win…
The Nets swept the Rockets this season, so beating them can’t be that tough to do.
It’s now an even year here in the east: Let’s Go Giants!
Happy New Year, Flapsville folks.