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Bad Luck Weekend

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 18, 2016

Another day, another loss to the Padres. Seems about right. With that mindset, I’m actually surprised Edwina didn’t notch her second career no hitter yesterday.

The bottom line is that every good team has weekends like this. And the even “bottomer” line is that we need our guys back. This Tejada/Pena/Green/Gillaspie thing has gone on long enough and no team could keep an offense/defense going with all these random dudes. And that has nothing to do with Casilla and all the problems he brings to the team.

Now we get to go play the American League game and I don’t have a lot of confidence in this trip.

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  1. gianthead said, on July 18, 2016 at 8:31 am

    On the road to Boston…someone write some lyrics….

    • ewisco said, on July 18, 2016 at 8:33 am

      “Boston at last, and the plane’s touching down.
      the hostess is passing those hot towels around.
      from the terminal gate, to a black limousine,
      it’s a 10 minute ride to . . .”

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:08 pm

      Going to Beantown, the transit is mass…
      Going to Beantown to kick some Sox ass…
      The stumble and bumble in Dago was crass…
      Wash that shit off and go kick some Sox ass.

  2. willedav said, on July 18, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Boston is hitter’s yard, so maybe everyone gets out of funk. Yanks are nothing like teams of old, shaky pitching declining old guy hitters…but beat them in the first 6 because pen is really tough with lead.

    I’ll likely miss most of these, but I noticed Pads made determined effort to jam Belt and get inside on him and he went 0 for Diego.
    Natural move vs. tall long armed guys who like to extend to drive ball. Belt hit in some tough luck, going to CF when he put ball in air at Petco, big part of yard where ball didn’t seem to carry.
    See if he snaps out of it and how he adjusts.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:12 am

      Without video and relying on the SFgate feed i was not privy to this info on Belt. Thanks. Explains a bunch. When teams start doing that he may need to inch off the plate a bit, which would encourage pitchers to go outside on him. Easier for a guy with his build to lunge and go oppo than to correct on anything inside and a bit up. Most LH batters lunch on low stuff on the inside, but up and in can stymie all but some of the vertically challenged types like Houston’s Altuve.

  3. Flavor said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:24 am

    I don’t really look at the competition in the AL. It’s just a different game, one that we aren’t poised to play well right now. Despite the obvious issue with DH (and come on, we have absolutely no business using a DH, we can barely find 8 guys to fill the normal spots in the LU), there is the issue of an unfamiliar park and pitchers that throw a lot more bendy off speed bullshit. I don’t think we match up well, currently, with any AL team……

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:40 am

      Gillaspie is not much of a defender so he would be the logical DH.

  4. Carstie Clausen said, on July 18, 2016 at 10:36 am

    Okay: No immediate help and i wouldn’t trade this kid either. Spotlight is on C.J. Hinojosa, a 2015 11th rounder outta Houston. Second season in the pipeline and he recently ~ just before his 22nd birthday ~ made the jump from San Jose to Richmond. Though in limited ABs in the Eastern league he hasn’t fallen off yet statistically.

    Between the two teams, the R-R Shortstop has been in 81 games with 92 hits in 309 ABs for a .298 average. Somewhat more than a quarter of his knocks have been of the XBH variety with 17 doubles, 3 triples and 7 ding-dongs. With those hits (and walks) he has scored an impressive 53 runs and driven in 42. What i really like about his offense is his walk/strikeout ratio of 41-52. This adds up to a .376 OBP (very nice) and a .440 SP for an OPS of .817.

    Cup of coffee 14 months from now is my projection, with a serious look in S.T. 2018. Source did not have much undecipherable by myself on his defense (a true stats geek could ferret down the info) but a middle infielder just turned 22 and so far holding his own in AA ranks as a true prospect. His development might make Adrianza expendable as filler in a trade scenario, though at this point, he should be getting plenty of reps at both 2nd and 3rd as well as SS as the Giants currently have the #1 overall in that important position.

    Keep that name in mind. I wasn’t even aware of him till 3-4 weeks ago when those stats started sticking out . Sometimes serendipity creeps in under the radar. Hinojosa currently seems to fill that bill.

    • Flavor said, on July 18, 2016 at 10:50 am

      Stix— question for you: who WOULD you trade? Serious question

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 18, 2016 at 12:35 pm

        Arroyo for starters. He’s still pretty young and 1st Rounders always have some cachet. Pizza menu of middle A Rotation types in Augusta. Four of them, as i recall. Your guess there would be quite as good as mine. For a quality late-innings pitcher with experience, Strickland might appeal to some not quite hanging on team which feels they can ease him in gradually as he learns secondary pitches and becomes effective with them. Crick and Stratton if anyone’s interested. Susac would be a draw. Beede, perhaps. Still a bit hesitant on Bickford.

  5. snarkk said, on July 18, 2016 at 11:48 am

    You trade minor league guys with the perceived big upside before they prove otherwise. Like Crick was 2 years ago. He would have pulled some talent in a trade then, now he’s worth squat. Somehow, the Giants FO should know more than the trading partner about the upside reality of the prospect. You trade a possible big upside for a known quantity you need now. None of these minor league pitchers of the Giants are guaranteed Mlb players, so why would any be off the table? Wheeler looked like a big mistake after the Beltran Fizzle, but he’s basically been hurt most of his Mets career, proving you can’t predict the future with certainty. The known thing is that the Pen needs some glue right now, not in two years. Joseph for Pence worked out well, now Joseph looks like he finally could be a player. That’s baseball…

    • Flavor said, on July 18, 2016 at 11:56 am

      not trading Crick is continuing to piss me off. Bickford is this year’s Crick. Trade Bickford now.

  6. unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    Yeah, the law of averages with maybe 1 out of 500 picks being stars (if that) means everyone should be on the table. Guaranteed big-money guys (like Buster and most top 10 guys) may be off the table, but the rest are basically cannon fodder. We don’t have any Buster types, so let ’em fly.

  7. alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    Went to a game at Fenway in 1994..
    Took a red-eye from SF to JFK then the puddle jumper on the Tarmac that looked like the one in Major League with the smoke and vibrations from the propellers.I asked another passenger when we were starting to board it if they even have a pilot/stewardess?
    No service being a 45 min flight but I sure could of used a Bloody Mary or something..
    The cool thing was the conciege at the hotel I stayed at with my wife hooked us up last minute to a game I wanted to see which was sold out!!
    The matchup.. Mike Mussina vs Roger Clemens who shutout the Orioles.
    One draw back about the beautiful old school park were the seats! Their built for midgets and I’m 6’3 so my knees were pressed up against a fan in front of me, and if you went for a beer&dog /bathroom,the whole row had to get up to let you out kinda of hilarious really..

  8. dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 18, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    The only guy I would hang onto is Arroyo. He and Tommlinson could very well spell Panik & Duffy.

  9. blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    A’s continuously crack me up. Sounds like with them calling up third baseman Ryon Healy on Friday, Danny Valencia (a good player in my opinion) is headed for slightly reduced playing time going forward. In short, he is going to be traded. Book it.

  10. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    I am with Dirt on hanging onto Arroyo. The other guy I would probably hang onto is Mejia, and maybe Beede or Bickford. But depending on what was on the table for a trade (like an Andrew Miller), then Arroyo might be the only guy I would not trade.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:32 pm

      Why Chi? Arroyo hasn’t proven anything to date, while Miller has. Equally important, we have an opportunity this year to make hay in the playoffs and possibly the World Series. Arroyo? Who knows when he’s going to be ready . . . if ever?

      To me, these guys are just currency to get better, unless you’re practically a sure thing, e.g., Posey, Lincecum, Bryant, Russell, etc. Arroyo? Meh.

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:28 pm

        Blade, while his numbers have not been great to date, there is just a hunch I have that the kid is going to turn into something special. Again, just a hunch…I have nothing statistically concrete on which to base this. Ask me tomorrow and maybe, if the wind changes direction, I have a different take. 😉

  11. zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:35 pm

    “Please come to Boston for the spring time
    I’m staying here with some friends
    And they’ve got lots of room
    You can sell your paintings on the sidewalk
    By a cafe where I hope to be working soon
    Please come to Boston
    She said, no, would you come home to me
    And she said, ramblin’ boy why don’t you settle down
    Boston ain’t your kind of town
    There ain’t no gold, and there ain’t nobody like me
    I’m the number one fan of the man from Tennessee”

  12. zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    “Well, we were just another band out of Boston
    On the road and tryin’ to make ends meet
    Playin’ all the bars, sleepin’ in our cars
    And we practiced right on out in the street
    No, we didn’t have much money
    We barely made enough to survive
    But when we got up on stage and got ready to play, people came alive
    Rock and roll band, everybody’s waitin’
    Getting’ crazy, anticipatin’
    Love and music, play, play, play, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah”

  13. alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    Well to me Blade you hang on to Arroyo just because of the uncertanity’s of both Panik&Duffy due to their injury history. Arroyo can play both spots,so you really need him more for depth then pitchers they package up,which they have abundance of arms just need a team to deal with..

    • blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2016 at 3:55 pm

      Well AK, I hope the kid improves then, because right now he really isn’t doing jack in Richmond, with 2 HRs, 29 RBIs, 19 BB, 55 SOs, .282 BA, .319 OBP .388 SLG, and .707 OPS. All of this in 330 at bats. Granted, the Richmond Double A environment is rough for hitters, but until he can dominate that, there is little to no chance of him succeeding up here (despite what he did in Spring Training). Anyway, that’s my take.

    • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:30 pm

      Agree Kat…if nothing else, insurance for Duffy and Panik. And again, I just have a hunch that this kid is going to be a damned good ballplayer.

  14. unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Well I love that dirty water
    Ohhhhhhhh Boston, you’re my home

  15. Flavor said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    I don’t think we should have any untouchables. We joke about this even-year stuff but the reality is that we could be dead again before the Giants make it back to the World Series. Fuck that. I want the brass to go both fists on any team that looks like they have a decent chance. This is no bad-penny year and Sabean would be the first to tell you that. I’ve also talked myself into Chapman just cause I want to win NOW and he won’t cost nearly as much as MIller.

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm

      The Yankees strike me as a team that’s kind of afraid of their fan-base. Their fans will be angry if the Yankees look like they are in any way conceding this season. It will take courage from Cashman.

  16. Flavor said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    that fucking Cardinal scout got 46 months for hacking into the Astros system? Jesus, didn’t he already plead guilty? 46 months for that? Pffftttttt, wow.

    • unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm

      And the rapist swimmer gets 6 months?

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      Guys that deceived investors and wrecked the economy in ’08 walked scot-free.

      • chipower9 said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:31 pm

        THAT is the REAL injustice, Zume…

  17. unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    Yeah, I mean, how many Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz trades are there? Short-term it was brilliant for the Tigers, but long term? Well, Detroit lost the WS that year, and the Braves only won one with him, but yeah, the future is now I suppose.

    My son said the same thing yesterday. Get Chapman as he’s a ton cheaper than Miller. He might be reading this . . .

  18. chipower9 said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    I think we need a solid set-up guy who can go L-R more than we need a closer. I have been a big proponent of closer by committee for a long while now. Probably going back a month or so ago when Casilla let that tie game against the Red Sox get away. Plus, the way Romo has been throwing…I am down with him and Law doing most of the closing.

  19. zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    “Now the first of December was covered with snow
    So was the turnpike from Stockbridge to Boston
    The Berkshires seemed dream-like on account of that frosting
    With ten miles behind me and ten thousand more to go
    There’s a song that they sing when they take to the highway
    A song that they sing when they take to the sea
    A song that they sing of their home in the sky
    Maybe you can believe it if it helps you to sleep
    But singing works just fine for me
    So goodnight you moonlight ladies
    Rockabye sweet baby James
    Deep greens and blues are the colors I choose
    Won’t you let me go down in my dreams
    And rockabye sweet baby James”

  20. snarkk said, on July 18, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    Doe anybody think Strick is going to figure it out? He’s been around Rags and Gardy for going on two seasons now, and phhttt, he’s still throwing straight gas at 97 that gets clobbered. If you can’t develop a reliable 2nd pitch by now, what’s the chance of ever getting that done?…

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 18, 2016 at 7:37 pm

      Nope and zero.

    • blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2016 at 7:39 pm

      Yeah, I do. In fact, regarding bombs, he is already doing as well or better than Casilla, Kontos, Lopez, Gearrin, Osich, and if you extrapolate innings (plus or minus) for other pitchers (starting or relievers) he is doing as well or better. Equally important, he has an excellent WHIP of 1.15 and good ERA of 3.12. Stats don’t lie.

      I have no idea why anyone would not want to keep him or at least is encouraged by his results this year. By the by, he did well last year too.

      • blade3colorado said, on July 18, 2016 at 7:45 pm

        Fourth best WAR among pitchers too.

      • unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:39 pm

        Sure, stats lie. They lie all the time. Beyond that, you can’t compare starters to relievers.

        I wouldn’t say encouraged. More like worried. The whole pen is a shit-show. Romo will help, but Lopez is running on fumes, regardless of his numbers. We need another lefty besides Osich as he is climbing the ladder in the realm of relievers.

  21. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 18, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    Safe trips to Flappers all…. bring the team some luck, they’ll need it… be safe and have fun…. 🙂

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 8:33 pm

      Yes! 🙂

  22. zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    The Cardinals beat the Padres 10-2, because the Padres suck.

  23. wilcojoe said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    The A’s have a heater with an actual flame going in front of the visitors bullpen, literally sitting on the field? Are you fucking kidding me?

    • dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:33 pm

      Maybe it’s a gas leak.

  24. wilcojoe said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    Reddick than knocks it over going after a foul ball. His foot nearly went into the flame. I can’t stop laughing at how ridiculous that is.

  25. unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    Just found out my daughter almost got hit by a foul ball at the Angels Rangers game . . . Well, I just also found out my daughter went to the Angels Rangers game.

    • wilcojoe said, on July 18, 2016 at 9:46 pm

      I’ve been flipping back and forth between that game. Very entertaining. Five home runs so far.

  26. zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    The Dodgers schedule this week is not a cupcake either. The Nationals and Cardinals.

    • zumiee said, on July 18, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      Although the Nats are calling up a guy from AAA to be the starting pitcher tomorrow night.
      We know how that would go against the Giants. 🙂

  27. zumiee said, on July 19, 2016 at 12:22 am

    Pretty funny:

  28. snarkk said, on July 19, 2016 at 12:47 am

    She lifted most of two paragraphs nearly verbatim. The Drumpf supporters are spinning every which way on social media trying to downplay this debacle. Hillarious, or better, Michellearious…

    • zumiee said, on July 19, 2016 at 1:09 am

      Lifted from one of the Obamas, who a lot of the GOP hates.
      And the plagiarized passage is about values and hard work which makes it even funnier.

      • zumiee said, on July 19, 2016 at 1:11 am

        Uh….plagiarism is sort of the opposite of hard work.

  29. sandog said, on July 19, 2016 at 4:23 am

    Greetings from NY! I maybe slept 30 minutes last night on the plane. My son, on the other hand, pretty much slept the entire flight. The plagiarism thing is hilarious and timely as we just walked past Trump Tower.
    It is 7:20 here right now and my body is trying to figure out if it is real late at night or real early in the morning. Gonna be interesting.

    • zumiee said, on July 19, 2016 at 6:54 am

      Great to hear reports from this pilgrimage. Thanks! Keep the reports coming!

    • alleykat69 said, on July 19, 2016 at 8:26 am

      Good job Dawg getting there safe..
      Adjustments taking a red eye flight can be brutal.Talking to a NewYorker or a Bostonian with their thick accents is another..

  30. willedav said, on July 19, 2016 at 8:16 am

    The numbers Blade posted are exactly what Brisbee from Mcchron said and I am beginning to agree with–Strick’s numbers are fine yet a lot of people don’t like him. So good luck adding anyone in his price range that is going to be better, despite what numbers might look like.

    Every night you can look across baseball and see pen guys that blow up and cost their teams games. Cards demoted Rosenthal out of closer role and then new guy Oh blew one last week. Daniel railed about this before break. Last night Indians Rangers Mariners all lost game in 8th or 9th and these are good teams in pennant races.

    Way cool the west coast guys are in east to see sights and baseball. Look forward to reading more from them all, plus regular east coast guys they might meet up with.
    Maybe left coast can still get something together out here before school starts back up next month.

  31. unca_chuck said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Man, I’m bummed I can’t be there. You guys out there have a blast, and tip a few for me.

    I suppose you guys saw Chuck’s (Chi’s) FB pic in the Charlotte airport? I’m even more jealous!

    If not . . .


    • zumiee said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:06 am

      That is so cool!!!!!

      • unca_chuck said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:40 am

        Wish the -pic would just display but I don;t get the nuances of posting pics here.

    • bassbaldy said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:43 am

      Whaaatt? Are you kidding!? Is that from this trip now?
      If so, that is amazing ..WOW!!!

      • bassbaldy said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:57 am

        So, Chi crossed paths with Bum in the Charlotte airport during the first leg on this mythical pilgrimage to attend Giants’ games in Boston & New York with other Flappers? Unbelievable! Beyond serendipity!

        Thus, Bum made a quick trip home to NC on the off day …

    • wilcojoe said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:08 am

      Holy shit, how cool is that! Chi is either trying to look real chill or he is still in shock standing next to Bum. Probably the latter. How awesome is that? What a way to start your trip.

      • bassbaldy said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:22 am

        Right Joe? … Talk about an auspicious beginning to an epic voyage! And all the hoops Chi had to jump through to change his flight so he could arrive at decent hour so he could hang with with everyone and the rescheduling ended up taking him through Charlotte!!! … Well worth the effort Chi! Well done!

  32. willedav said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:11 am

    Giants have a win pct of .613 still best in all baseball. I know there’s lot of sentiment things improve with starters back, but i’m not so sure. One of surprises to me so far has been how little Panik Duffy and Pence have been missed. Just to maintain that would be awesome no matter who is or isn’t in LU.
    Gillaspie has almost exact same numbers as Panik ( and Specs) at the plate. While Duffy hit about as bad as Span, Pagan has rebounded and Williamson and Parker have been as good or better as fill ins
    Pena has simply dominated.
    Will the numbers of these guys drop with more ABs? Could easily be but they are fine for now and more than holding their own.

    Most important hitters and fielders have been Craw Posey Belt, none of whom SF could live without. As to others, everyone has their favs but Giants have done just fine without them, for quite a while.

  33. unca_chuck said, on July 19, 2016 at 9:39 am

    I think we improve markedly defensively with the injured guys back.

    • Macdog said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:03 am

      Especially Duffy’s defense.

    • willedav said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:19 am

      Sure, but I can only remember one of Gillaspie’s bad throws to 1b that hurt them and would up costing couple runs afterward. I like Duffy a lot, he’s just had a really tough time at the plate.
      Even losing Pence out of middle order just hasn’t seemed to hurt as much as I would have thought.

      • bassbaldy said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:35 am

        I’m one of the guys that have noticed too how little we are missing the regular starters. So, I have to agree with all you’ve said. Personally, I do miss Pence. I get that the production hasn’t fallen off that much from his spot but he does bring a certain intangible to the team in terms of spirit … But even that seems to be present up until these past few games.

        Speaking of which … Did anyone else notice Posey’s reaction to the home run he hit the other night? I saw it on the condensed game replay … Posey is a pretty stoic guy but after that huge comeback homer, he let out a big kinda “Fuck Yeah!” yell at the dugout after crossing home plate .. Uncharacteristic, and very telling that under that cool exterior this guy is giving everything he has and is completely emotionally engaged in the game. Witnessing that as given me an attitude adjustment and I’m going to stop being so critical of him. That’s is all it took for me.

      • Carstie Clausen said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:38 am

        Of the 3 wounded warriors the most important missing ingredients include Pence’s clubhouse presence. Who could forget the Reverend? Next comes Duffy’s “D” as Mcd notes. Ultimately we arrive at Panik’s presence at the top of the order as a primo table-setter for Belt, Buster and CrawDaddy. Synergistically, they make for quite the unit.

        Pena has been a find and Gillaspie seems to have found what it takes to be a true threat off the bench. Those are the fill-in components i hope Bochy manages to keep on board. So far in rehab, Specs has yet to find his bat. Hope he can be retained in the pipeline long enough for his “O” to come around.

  34. Bozo said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:19 am

    Two with the Sox could be tough. If we can get one of these games I’d be happy and I’m thinking tomorrow just might be the one. The Giants should know Pomeranz by now, in 9 games he’s 1-4 against us with a 4.54 ERA and a 1.387 WHIP, Cain is rested it’s a hitters park… Tonight? Hopefully Peavy can get some innings in and isn’t too fired up. We should be able to sweep the Yankees and take Chapman home on the team plane with us.

    Hope the Flap road show is able to have a safe and sane good time.

    • Carstie Clausen said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:42 am

      A sweep vs the Yankmees might be one bridge too far. But a series win is not outta the question. A split with Baahsstin would satisfy most Giants fans. Chapman would be fine depending on cost in prospects and whether the tightwad owners would be willing to offer the looming F.A. a knock your socks off two year deal with an even more lucrative third year team option.

  35. unca_chuck said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:34 am

    Pena and Tejada both had some bad plays early on. And Gillaspie as well.

  36. unca_chuck said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:35 am

    Yeah, our pitchers seem to have a tough time pitching against their previous teams.

    Or maybe it just feels like that . . . I know Johnny C got raked by the Reds.

  37. bassbaldy said, on July 19, 2016 at 10:40 am

    I gotta confess guys, I’m still still reeling from seeing this photo of Chi with Bum … What a stunner! What a momentous occasion!

    Seeing Flav’s pal running into Kruk in Reno last week was pretty amazing, but this takes the cake!

  38. wilcojoe said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:09 am

    I am assuming Chi and Bum were on the same flight, so who knows how much they got to chat before the flight. Can’t wait to hear the full report.

    • ewisco said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:47 am

      pawlie K would have a book out about it already.

      • wilcojoe said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:54 am

        Yep. “Chasing Bum in Terminal 1”

      • ewisco said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:57 am

        nice one!

    • gianthead said, on July 19, 2016 at 12:50 pm

      I can’t believe it. We drove to frickin Boston and he gets to meet Bum. Blade flew separately. We are grabbing drinks with them in the next few.

  39. wilcojoe said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:14 am

    Dan O’Dowd on MLB network made a hypothetical trade of Phil Bickford and Ray Black for Chapman. Made a good point of Giants could then make a qualifying offer to Chapman at the end of season and receive a first round compensation pick if he rejects. I would make that trade all day long.

    • zumiee said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:37 am


  40. unca_chuck said, on July 19, 2016 at 11:56 am

    Not that this isn’t obvious, but here it is . . .


  41. Flavor said, on July 19, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    new thread

  42. bassbaldy said, on July 19, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    God damn it! Ive been looking forward to this game for months … I tuned in time to see that Span & Pagan were onboard with lead off singles .. all I got to witness was the dollowing 3 atrikeouts … fuck, am I a jinx? So, do I have turn off the game now? …Waaaaa! I don’t wanna!

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