Frustration
I want the Giants to pick up a deadline guy as much as the next Flapper but when I read tweets like this:
Sources: #Orioles trying hard to get Cashner. Not necessarily front-runner; #Marlins, #Rangers still in, possibly others.
…..I start to think it’s not going to happen.
Sabes and his sidekick don’t like to compete. Partially because they don’t have the bullets to fire, but mostly because they just don’t like to compete. They irrationally hold on to their minor league currency like it’s worth more than it is. Here’s a tip: devalue it. It will make it easier for you to let go of it when it’s time to pay the piper.
I’d take Cashner in a heartbeat. He’s basically Smarge who I greatly prefer to either Cain or Peavy. He throws hard, sometimes too hard, but he’s better than our current 5 and 5. So why not?
Well, see the Rosenthal tweet to find out “why not?”
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How is it the Giants don’t have minor league talent anybody else values? We get jazzed listing the SF infield that’s all home grown. True dat. But, down below, apparently other teams chuckle at the Giants minor leagues when it comes to trades. I get that the Cubs were crap for a long time, so they had high draft picks constantly and can trade a handful for Chapman. But, after the first two rounds in baseball, what good does a higher position do? It’s not like football. In baseball, the draft is pretty much a crapshoot after the first couple of rounds. Meaning, the Giants aren’t drafting that great, especially when it comes to OFers. And, as far as pitchers go, I’m still waiting for the first home grown good starter since Bum. He’s been around a while, since 2010. Heston came out of nowhere, now he’s back to that same spot, apparently. The other guys are phantoms until they actually show up at ATT. The Pen home-growners are looking pretty average, given results so far. Anyway, after this Nats series, the roster is going to have some major revisions with guys coming back. That hot roadie to Philly, Nats and Miami looks like a sweaty challenge…
I understand the frustration snarkk, but I think you’re being a bit too harsh . . . Three World Series, more home grown players than any other MLB team, and fairly consistent contention year in and year out, tells me that the Giants brain trust is doing well in developing minor league talent. Remember, this isn’t the NFL, where you’re fairly certain that a 1st round pick is going to produce immediately or in the first few years in the league.
I have a hard time criticizing our scouts, Sabean, and Evans. In short, I have zero problems with the Giants front office.
Good post, Blade. I agree with ya. Tom, go pour yourself a couple of fingers of Makers, and relax, brother. 😉
lulz . . . good one Chi
Actually, I’m 100% confident in the Giants brain trust getting something accomplished. As in all cases involving 2 or more people or 2 or more sides – there are a myriad of outcomes. Consequently, I still trust Sabes and Evans will get it done, but it’s possible that the “other side” will be asking for too much or they get better offers. That’s how trades and deals work.
Also, how many times has Sabes picked another team’s pocket?
Off the top of my head, the Phillies (Pence), Pirates (Glass Sanchez, Javier Lopez), Red Sox (Jake Peavy, Ramon Ramirez), Rockies (Scutaro), and Marlins (Cody Ross off the waiver line). Even the ones that didn’t work out, looked good at the time, e.g., Beltran (2011) and Leake (2015).
I can’t think of anyone else – Sabean and Evans – I would want making deals at this time of the year.
Agree, there will be no excuses for them not to get a Cashner type. I would suspect he would cost something similar to Leake. A Wiilamson or Parker or a ML arm such as Beede or Bickford and probably a midlevel prospect. Hell you may get him for an arm not named Beede or Bickford. Possibly Mejia? Those are the type of moves you make all day long and you don’t sweat the guys given up.
None of these guys in the minors are ML arms until they get to the MLs and succeed. Until then, it’s all conjecture and potential. So, I see no problem trading anybody in the minors at any time for proven talent. I don’t want them trading Williamson, I’d keep him. They will need two starting pitchers next year, Peavy is gone and Cain will likely be useless, so they have to figure on bringing up at least one from the minors…
Uh, there is this thing called free agency. It does not all rest on the boys in the minors.
Sabean also likes to wait until the last hour when teams are forced to take less in order to move inventory. The problem with doing so is that another team can raise their hand at said last minute with prospects slightly more desirable than what we can offer. We then can’t call their raise and thus are forced to fold.
I’m with Blade, Flav. Gotta trust the brass based on their track record. (Pagan also on that list).
These tweeters only know what they hear and there’s always shit going on that they don’t know about…
Sorry, Pagan belongs on a pickpocket list, but not the trade deadline one…
Lots of teams bring starting pitchers up from AAA for a look see, or emergency. The Giants don’t do that. They say they don’t want to destroy a kid’s psyche or some kind of lame excuse like that, but it doesn’t seem to bother other teams. I think Sabes doesn’t like to do that because he doesn’t want to show his hand of the real talent of these pitchers, so their trade value isn’t hit, if they get hit. He’ll only bring up the no brainer stars like Cain, Timmy and Bum. There aren’t any no brainer star starters in the system now, are there — I guess not, or they’d be up already…
So fucking what (Giants not bringing up pitchers from AAA). They have won three world series over the last six years. They obviously are doing more right than any other team. And the few times the Giants have brought up AAA kids, they have bombed. This is a non-starter for me.
I’ll guess Sabevans will pick up one Pen arm, no bats. They’ll figure the guys back from the DL will be like acquisitions. I’ll be surprised if they pick up a starter. I think they want the Cain thing to play out, and if he craters, they’ll deal with it after the trade deadline…
I think there is precedent to blame the Giants front office for how little they did during the end of the Bonds era. However I don’t know if it was Dick Tidrow or someone else who came on board and really turned the ship around. Drafting the likes of Cain,Timmy, Posey, Crawford, Belt, Bum, Panic, etc..really proved that their scouting had sudddently turned things around.
However winning three WS titles every other year is going to set you back into the latter parts of the draft. The talent level after the first 10 or so picks really falls off. One area where the Giants haven’t proven as capable is the international draft pool.
In a perfect world they would tank every odd year to ensure Top 10 picks as well as be able to sell in those down years to replinish your talent pool. The Red Sox are a good example of this. Unfortunatley even in odd years, we still manage to contend.
Blade has brought up a good point, that Sabean HAS pulled off some very good deals. But that was in the past. I think when teams say the Giants farm system isn’t a *good fit* to trade with, part of that is being tired of Sabean pawning off his B-level prospects on them. Now, that’s on the other GM of course. But it’s like they’ve wisened up. And Sabes still won’t trade any of the guys who are coveted. He traded ONE blue chip prospect in his life (Wheeler). I think he’s made a pact with himself never to do that again and I think that’s a huge mistake.
Speaking of the Red Sox. I just read the Giants broke Clevelands record of most consecutive sell outs and now only trail Boston whose streak extends back to 2003. If the Giants can follow that receipe, we are in pretty good shape for many years to come. The Red Sox and Giants are definetly the “jones’s” of MLB.
that sell out *record* is a joke. That stadium is often half full, at best.
MLB trade rumors reports Royals are trying to package Ian Kennedy and Wade Davis for a haul of prospects.
now that’s a deal that we couldn’t make even if Sabean sent every minor leaguer we have their way.
I know right? Maybe just maybe it could happen if KC really wanted to unload that contract since their still cheap fucks.
I also trust the front office. Over the past few weeks, I was thinking there were 4 areas of possible focus: 1 top notch reliever (for obvious reasons), 1 3rd baseman with pop (who knows about Duffy, and the cast of characters being run out there ain’t real strong), 1 starting pitcher, and 1 outfielder with pop. Obviously, all 4 things aren’t happening, and Pence will return hopefully very soon, so scratch #4, leaving a reliever, starter, and a maybe a 3rd bagger or a versatile player like Pearce. Most likely 3 things won’t happen either, but that would be *bold* if they did. If only 2, do you focus only on the arms? Even with Pence coming back, still kinda feeling like they need another bat. If only 1 thing happens, will that be enough? I do trust Sabevans. That said, if not much happens, it will seem disappointing. They just need to get to the post-season. “Not much” happening in the next few days probably won’t do it. Every morning now I’m waking up and tuning in for some good news. Maybe… tomorrow….
tanner roark going tonight. Last time Belt faced him he did this…..
Cool. Petit’s 6-innings of sudden death relief in that game still amazes me…
So does his wife’s rack…
The matchup for today’s Dbacks-Brewers game is Ray-Davies.
That’s kinky…
lulz.
I’d love to see a Giants blockbuster trade. That hasn’t happened since Matt Williams got dealt. With 3 trophies, Sabevans has the fan capital to do it…
So would I, Snarkk. I think it’s possible but to get a big return I’m sure it would have to include Duffy or Panik, Strickland, Parker or Mac, prospects and eating some cash. Basically what I proposed for Sale and Frazier…
And while we’re on the subject, this is one of my all time favorite songs…
Dave Davies playing a Flying V that early on. Can’t have been too many of those around then.
Yeah, that’s pretty wild. Very very underrated band. At least in the US.
I would give anything to know if anyone on or associated with the Giants reads the Flap – just for entertainment or to kill time. These guys have plenty of time on their hands. Why wouldn’t they?
I’ve long held that the Flap, more so than the other two Giants FANatics sites because it tends to be more selective and less verbiage to wade through, makes for the perfect unpaid focus group for the tightwad organization. Corporations pay mucho dinero entertaining the opinions and takes of paid focus groups. It would fit the Giants M.O. perfectly to go for the freebie ~ keeping mum about that all the while, of course.
Interesting, Stix…although we’re an older demographic and nobody here attends many games in person…
They probably do. If a move they’re thinking of is recommended here, that’s confirmation for them Not to do it … 🙂
I was just thinking about that Loo (flappers not attending many games) when I asked how much of AT&T is filled with bandwagoners. It seems like many of the most knowledgable, hard core fans of the Giants rarely attend actual games.
I’ve been to enough games, if I go now it’s just to be with people who’ve invited me or people I haven’t seen in a while. Even with the train, it’s a pain in the ass for me to get to a game. But maybe I’ve just gotten old. I’ve got a big tv and everything is right in my face in HD. The only downside to that is Amy G’s grill….
I like Amy G. Maybe because she interviewed me. And seemed bored by my ramblings. Hey, maybe she had jet lag. I go to relatively few games. But I live in a minor league town.
yeah I hear you Flav; the cost too of just everything. I work 6 days still and only chance to hit a game would be Sat night/Sun and I’m a little farther away on the train. I’d rather chill and watch it.
Amy, less said the better. She was actually flashing some cleavage the other night, but I can’t listen to her.
Craw seemed like he wanted to be miles away from her Tues night post game. Her questions were way longer than any answers he gave.
The “pain in the ass” factor, rising ticket prices and my rising age have cut down my attendance at NY Ranger games to about 5 a season and usually one per playoff round. As the amazing “Map-Dawg” can tell you, it’s a much easier subway trip from South Brooklyn than Citifield or Yankee Stadium which I only go to when the Giants are in town…
I’m continually amazed at friends/co-workers, mostly Mets fans, who make numerous trips from Jersey into NYC for ballgames throughout the season, although I did make it into NYC two straight days last week. Anything for you, Loo.
‘Sesame Street’ fired Gordon, Luis, and Bob! What kind of world is this!?
Thx Unc, those were awesome. Loved the Kinks, Animals, Yardbirds early editions. Stones in those days were quite bluesy too; their version of “Let the Good Times Roll” from Out of Our Heads is great.
I noticed the other night when Amy was bragging about the sellouts that were rows of empty seats right behind her. Still, the Yard is a license to print money and Giants I don’t think are going downhill either.
I’m sure every team would like a blockbuster deal with reinforcements to take place of dead weight. I do think Sabes hands are tied in this sense—he’s stuck with Pagan (mind blowing fups lately on bases and OF) under performing Span (at least so far) injuries to some regulars he might have overvalued and some other old guys on the pitching staff. He’s not going to DFA Blanco or an SP nor Casilla Romo Lopez.
I think team gets a lot younger next year so I’d rather he didn’t dump the young guys unless he gets a regular he can rely on for a few years, either in rotation or the field.
This series hurt but Reds have actually won their last 4, so they’re playing well. Bruce was great, but if he really hit 4 HRs every week he’d have Bonds record. I’m still not in on this guy or any other Kingman type.
I was thinking Williamson might be a Kingman type. But no. Not after his AB that Boch says was the best of the year against NYY. BTW, Leslie Jones or whatever her name is, of ‘Ghostbusters,’ LOVES her some Mac on Twitter.
Loved the Yardbirds … Saw them in ’67.
I have a feeling a blockbuster is coming. Such trades for me often carry the weight of regret unless you subscribe to Magnus’s players-as-thoroughbreds notion.
This is a big series coming up. I’m hoping we rise to the occasion. Teams often let up and play down against bad teams. Play up, boys.
I saw The Kinks in London in ’84 at the Hammersmith Palais, a venue that looks very much like (but isn’t) the one in their video for “Come Dancing.” Still have the ticket stub.
Very impressed with our music knowledge here, e.g., Willie, 2 Johns (Mac and Bozo), bassbaldy, Unca, Chi, Zumiee, PaulinAsia, San Diggity, etc. (sorry if I left anyone out). I always learn something here about things other than baseball.
I know Willie is a Jazz enthusiast and seeing Macdog’s post about the Kinks in London, reminded me of my mom and I going to the famous Ronnie Scott’s Jazz Club in London (1976 I think). Great evening and I can’t even tell you who played. It was just nice having my mom visit me while I was in the service, stationed in Great Britain. Here’s a link Willie to Ronnie’s . . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Scott%27s_Jazz_Club
The Raspberries another good band from the 60’s with their hit “Go all the way” “Giants theme song for this year?”
The Raspberries another good band from the 60’s with their hit “Go all the way” “Giants theme song for this year?”
The one musical fact that always blows my mind is the fact that the guitarist for Strawberry Alarm Clock, Ed King, basically laid the blueprint sound for (and played on the first 3) Lynyrd Skynyrd albums.
They were like, “Here, put on this hat. You ain’t a hippie anymore.”
The PGA is back in Jersey at Baltusrol this weekend. Having been to the final round of the three previous Baltusrol majors — ’80 Open (Nicklaus), ’93 Open (Janzen), ’05 PGA (Mickelson) — I’m a little bummed I can’t make it this time. The ’05 PGA had a crazy finish. Mickelson was getting ready to putt on the 14th when a lightning storm rolled in (not uncommon for late afternoons in N.J.) and play was suspended until Monday. So my father and I returned the following morning, watched Mickelson finish the 14th and the last four holes, including a clinching birdie on 18, and got some heavily discounted tourney swag from the souvenir shop.
Just listened to Bobby Evans on knbr. Gave away nothing but kinda sounded like a deal is gonna happen. Maybe I’m just dreaming, anyone else hear that?
Somehow this doesn’t scream Southern rock.
Got to wonder with all the IFers we seem to have now if one or more won’t go . . . Green’s nothing, but Pena might have a little value wrapped up with some minor leaguers. Gillaspe as well has shown a little bit.
Still think it’s reliever, OFer, and SP, in that order of importance. I think they are standing pat with Peavy and Cain and hoping the best for Smarge
By the way, Panik back in LU tonight, Pence by this weekend
Wonder if he’s on the table.
So like some one said draft pics are a crap shoot, now I don’t know who was the Giants got for Adam Duval, but there is a prime example of the Giants not asking Duvall to change positions, he was a First baseman for the Giants AAA and behind Belt, he was never going to make it to the Giants as a 1st baseman. So the Giants trade him to Cincy and Cincy makes him an outfielder? Hmmm…So they had a left fielder? Just a thought
Sabes was all in on Aoki, plus Blanco, even Morse once in a while. Duvall wasn’t going to get much of a chance there either. Never cared for Aoki but Duvall really wasn’t anything to brag about then.
Plus the Reds are rebuilding not trying to win it all so they can let him play every day regardless.
Leake Kev.
Blade yes Ronnie Scott’s is legendary. As I’m sure you’re aware, many jazz musicians from US found life quite different (in a good way) in Europe and became expats living and recording there and looked on with respect not accorded them here. Pretty cool you’ve been there for a show.
“Would You go All the Way” hilarious Zappa song too; I think George duke is on trombone on that one..
Would you go all the way/for the USA
would you go all the way for the USO/
lift up your dress if the answer is no
Spot on Willie. Same deal with France (insofar as being color blind).
George Duke is a keyboardist. But yes, I believe he did play with Zappa in the later period. Don Preston was his keyboardist during the early Mothers of Invention phase.
One of my mentors, bassist Dave Holland (from London) was discovered at Ronnie Scott’s by Miles Davis. Holland was playing with the opening act on the bill with headliner and former Miles pianist, Bill Evans, who Davis had dropped by the club to hear while in London. The rest, as a they say, is history.
Flav, Blade: Your guy Dahl is 2 for 3 today vs. deGrom, although he just K’d.
Didn’t know that Mac (usually, I don’t play early games because I am following the stock market and/or out and about).
And yeah, I’m in on Bruce. A left handed pull hitter can make some hay (unless we are the only team that pitches him inside) . . .
Kinda funny Royals are apparently in sell mode after consecutive trips to WS, trying to pawn off Ian Kennedy’s bad contract as a kicker to offering Wade Davis. Don’t really follow them, but what the hell happened? They re-signed Gordon, let Cueto go but didn’t lose anyone else did they?
They are 4th in their own division, 8 and a half back of the Tribe and 2 games under .500. Wtf?
I think it was Moustakis that, due to injury, went down for the year early this season.
KC has a ton of solid relievers. Surely we can pry one off of them.
Giants said by MLBTR to be sniffing around Twins Edwardo Nunez. If the price is not too steep he could be a prime pickup because of both his bat and versatility. He can play 2B, 3B, SS and LF. This team has had a history of going for versatile types. Perhaps Adrianza or one of the current fill-ins goes along with say a Kyle Crick (been improving lately and many teams are suckers for 1st rounder types) and perhaps one of the 4 or 5 good starter prospects at Augusta.
Yeah, but did any of youse guys have any Pearls Before Swine or Incredible String Band albums, or see them? (I saw ISB the weekend of Woodstock. They flew down to Queens, across from Shea, to join Tom Paxton, Odetta, Tim Hardin at a folkfest.) Does that give me ANY cred? How about talkin’ to Phil Ochs?
I remember the ISB, there was a cut you could hear on FM radio here. The whole folk thing, early Dylan Richie Havens was another movement of all the great music happening in ’60s beside Brit invasion. Unbeatable for a decade imo—Hendrix, Doors, Otis Redding/Aretha soul explosion, Motown, blues revival of Butterfield that led to resurgence of black founders of the genre…Coltrane Monk and tons of other jazz guys I didn’t know about then.
If only I had been born 5 years earlier.
You have infinite cred with me Pawlie! Talking to Phil Ochs!?! Wow! Paxton, Hardin, Odetta? Hangin in the Village in the 60’s ?Infinite Cred X a Million!!
I saw Havens a few months before he died. Must have been one of his last concerts. Amazing! I sat down front and the way he strummed the guitar was such a force I swear I could feel a breeze coming off the stage.
Yeah vaguely remember them with the Hot Tuna/Asleep at the Wheel crowd . . .
Panik back, Green DFA’d
Panik traded to the Reds for Jay Bruce.
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Just kidding
Oh man! You got me good! …. Damn poor eyesight!
djloo27 said, on July 28, 2016 at 11:15 am (Edit)
The “pain in the ass” factor, rising ticket prices and my rising age have cut down my attendance at NY Ranger games to about 5 a season and usually one per playoff round. As the amazing “Map-Dawg” can tell you, it’s a much easier subway trip from South Brooklyn than Citifield or Yankee Stadium which I only go to when the Giants are in town…
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Macdog said, on July 28, 2016 at 11:39 am (Edit)
I’m continually amazed at friends/co-workers, mostly Mets fans, who make numerous trips from Jersey into NYC for ballgames throughout the season, although I did make it into NYC two straight days last week. Anything for you, Loo.
Don’t think it wasn’t appreciated by Chi and I. Same deal with GH and SD, along with their kids. I was literally exhausted when I got back, as I hadn’t packed this much touristy shit into 5 days since I don’t know when. Much more use to booking a trip solo for 2-5 months and going at a snails pace (in some instances, just chilling for the day with a massage, dry heat sauna or steam room). That being said, all of you guys made this trip absolutely unique and a ONCE IN A LIFETIME EXPERIENCE. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. 🙂
Same here, Blade. I never thought there would be any type of Flapalooza in NY…
Again, thanks Loo . . . I still want you to consider a Flap visit to Vietnam. Grin.
In the back of my mind, I knew Fernandez would face plant tonight – 5 innings pitched, 5 earned runs, 96 pitches thrown, albeit, 9 S0s. He did the same thing a couple of weeks ago. Pfffttt for that DFS team.
MLB has a brief article by Jim Duquette on 5 viable trade scenarios. Basically, as with most of these guys, throwing shit against the wall to see if anything sticks. Interesting that 2 of the 5 involve the Dodgers (getting Volquez and Reddick). Interesting only because the Dogs certainly do get talked about in the media a lot more than our Giants. I rarely have seen stories like this talking about SF. I think it’s because Sabean has been crafty and a tad unpredictable, so the writers don’t even bother trying to figure it out. Kinda like us Flappers, except we do bother trying to figure it out…. By the way, a blockbuster trade would be cool, but anything like that Matt Williams trade is unlikely; Sabes pulled that one off as the new guy, he didn’t know the Giants players, no investment in them personally, a lot easier for him to pull the trigger on something like that 10 years ago than it is now. Still would like to see something bold….
Obviously that should’ve read 20 years ago, not 10. I’m in a weird time/space continuum these days. Things I think happened a week ago actually happened 3 or 4 weeks ago. My flux capacitor needs some fine-tuning, me thinks…
Chelsea Clinton sounds like she’s on 37 qualudes right now
Yeah, the words were almost monotone, i.e., it was not helpful to her mother in my opinion.
I was gone 3 minutes in…
We got Nunez.
Osich to DL.
In case you’re watching DNC.
Nice! Good pick up. Nice bat, plays everywhere. Only had to give up Mejia. Even better.
As i noted earlier today while citing MLBTR on the Giants interest in Nunez, his versatility plus his stick are both of interest to the team. For the nonce he takes Duffy’s place. But as a shortstop he can give Crawford the occasional break, particularly when we have a flyball starter on the mound. He can also fill in for Panik and even do an occasional gig in LF.
The move indicates that Green, possibly Gillaspie and likely Adrianza could become part of a package to get a solid reliever or maybe even a starter. My guess is that Tomlinson, also a versatile athlete, may well be retained.
Nunez did not arrive on the cheap. Twins have done well in acquiring pitchers in trades with SF. My co first choice for a bump to the rotation was Mejia, a lefty starter with an excellent track record and considerably young at 23. So he could be another Liriano/Nathan for Minnesota. This now means Ty Blach, currently leading the PCL in wins with 11 and an ERA in the 3.60’s, becomes the #1 interim callup. He is not regarded as a top of the rotation hurler, but may do ok in the 4 or 5 role.
All in all a rather even trade with no discernible edge at this point. One more element in Mejia’s game is that he is a strong stolen base threat and should be given serious consideration to bat leadoff.
Nunez was a popular Yankee. Looks like he found some power this year.
He smiles a lot, too…
Now watch them trade Panik as part of a blockbuster deal for Sale. 😉
I love the pick up.
We’re getting conga’ed to death…
Yep, Carmen Miranded to death.
this has to mean the Giants brass don’t think Duffy is coming back. I know he can play other positions but those positions are taken with Craw and Panik…..
With Cueto’s largess extending to the opposing pitcher, it would appear the meltdown has metastasized and become general.
About to be 7-0. You can’t throw this guy a strike…
Is Hillary a smoker? She keeps clearing her voice every 30 seconds or so. She better cut back on the Camels.
she might be sick or something. She’s just not good at public speaking. Not her thing. She’s already accepted the nomination, time to wrap this up and trot Obama and Bill out there again, lulz
Sheesh, the DNC was outstanding up until this evening – Michele Obama, Barack Obama, Michael Bloomberg, Bill Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders . . . Then Chelsea and her mother. Pfffttt!
If she blows out a snot rocket, I’ll vote for her…
There was some conspiracy article floating around that mentioned that she has lung metastases from some type of cancer and that Bill Clinton has AIDS. It claimed that’s why they haven’t released their medical records to the public.
Now I am sure that is bullshit, but I do worry there is something wrong with Bill. He looks terrible.
He looks like he’s about to die…
I think I read he is vegan or quasi-vegan (some dairy products). All of them look sick. One of my best friends is vegan and I’ve told him on more than one occasion, he looks like shit – gaunt and bony – almost like he was just released from a concentration camp.
There’s quite a bit of buzz on alternative internet sites that Hillary is not a healthy woman. She apparently needs personal tending. Some of this could be stress related, particularly in regard to her e-mailing and various other scandals from over the years. Assange now says he has material which could get her arraigned.
I’m still watching the DNC, maybe I need to peek in on the game. This speech is not going well….
Nunez, good pick up, there’s one of the 3 things needed, IMO. Now, some arms……
Do they hit for Mac here?
Down with her doing a snot rocket. Hilarious. Still, it wouldn’t top the laugh a minute shit Trump pulls daily.
Just pulled into home after about 7 hours on the road after having 4 of the kids at a NY amusement park named Playland, a Boardwalk type of place, for about 4 hours in 99 degree heat and humidity:( Long fucking day after long funeral day yesterday for wife’s 103 year old grandmother….so what is more disturbing, Hillary’s acceptance speech or Cueto’s start?
Am I wrong, but I don’t remember a trade deadline with the Giants linked to so many different players. Probably from the start of the month, the Giants have probably been linked to 30 different players. Just make a frickin deal please. If two losses to the Reds at home after that horrendous road trip is not enough to wake up management, then we’re fucked…
Forgot to mention the super cool thing about Playland is that the original Zoltan Fortune Teller machine from the movie Big is there. Not one person noticed….I’m getting frickin old…
Your wish is granted…
That’s awesome GH!
that is very cool, that scene is burned into my soul
Ok I stand corrected…it was called Zoltar and it was only a prop in the movie:( I guess what I saw was just a replica of the one in the movie…which now I guess kind of sucks…
“The scene was shot at Playland, the Westchester County-owned amusement park in Rye, but today visitors to the same spot will only see an Aquafina vending machine.”
OK so I was in the right location..
They did – scroll up…
your day sounds positively awful. Sorry, I speak the truth.
I think the reason the Giants are more *linked to so many players* is because Evans talks a little bit more than Sabean who seems to hate everyone and plays everything close to the vest. It could also be the internet just chirping more. Up those followers, make those dolla dolla’s……
I think your finger is on something about Evans ms versus Sabean….this team needs some type of spark…maybe a brawl with the Nats might wake this team up. Who got sent down for Panik?
Green got DFA’d
GH, sorry to learn of that loss. I grew up going to Playland. It was awesome beyond belief as a kid. how’s it holding up?
bassbaldy: thanks for the undeserved ‘infinite’ props. I’ve got a sloppy Richie Havens story. Around 1978, SU had an exhibit of album art. Free wine. Richie Havens was there. I made a complete and totally embarrassing drunken fool of myself. Around 1985 I saw him on a midtown Manhattan street, 6th Avenue. Kept walking. Maybe a nod.
I should have known Pawlie…has your aura to it. Kids had a blast and I did not have to buy a whole pass to walk around with them. It was either Playland because we were staying nearby in Greenwich or Hershey Park on the way home and and probably saved $150 going to Playland.
But it was maybe a little worn from your days but some of the rides, the two merry go rounds and the wooden roller coaster all seemed like the original rides. My mother in law and bunch of the relatives grew up going there as well as mother once was from Rye.
The post funeral activities were at the American Yacht Club, familiar with it Pawlie? Was close to Playland.
The low light of the day was not the funeral but after lunch at the Yacht Club and I turn to my wife to ask where the bag with all my clothes to change into for the beach/pool from my entire black funeral garb and she responds with “What bag???” The one I asked you to carry from the hotel as I brought all the kids stuff to the car…that bag!!!!!
So she left it back at the Greenwich hotel…so I blew a gasket as I had to drive an hour back to rhetoric hotel in traffic…
As a youngster, I didnt appreciate Havens. As an oldster, seeing him live, I was blown away. He was playing and singing acoustically and was more powerful than many amplified rock bands.
Kruk thinks every player is the fastest player in the league…..
Are these the 2 worst candidates ever?
yes. Without question.
Yep. I am still voting Libertarian…
agree with K/K, intentional walks shouldn’t count to the pitch count. It also, IMO, shouldn’t count as a walk….
what should they count as, a grand slam?
Amen! Especially in DK’s.
a normal 8 pitch grind-it-out walk isn’t the same as just 4 fingering a guy to first base. It’s bullshit that they count the same against the pitcher (in DFS)
Peter, sorry for your loss. 😦
Thanks Blade. We did not have enough hang out time to give you and Chi the back story but she died the morning Jackson and I drove up to Boston last Monday…
By the way, let Jackson know I said hi . . . Outstanding young man.
Will do. Very proud of him. Sounds like San Dog has a similar story with his son. But always nice to hear. All the gathered family all had complimentary things to say about all of my five kids and I can’t believe they actually behaved through an entire funeral. Of course that good behavior lasted until my 10 year old almost hit a Yacht Club older woman member with a tennis ball…
here’s the thing I don’t think Bochy takes into enough consideration: Span could probably appreciate a drop in the LU. Take some pressure off being a lead off guy and just let him be a hitter. It makes no sense that Span is in the lead off spot every single game. He’s not even close to our best lead off option. Where is JAMES to back this up!!>!!!?!?!?! lol
is Nunez a leadoff guy?
yes
Scroll back up Pawlie to my commentary on the trade. Nunez is fast and a serious base-stealing threat. So my hope is that Bochy sees it that way. Flav, you are absolutely correct about at the least dropping Span down to 8th or so. He hasn’t meshed as a Giant yet. Perhaps that leadoff load is too heavy or maybe the analysts fucked up when they took him on. Ideally, a leadoff batter should draw a lot of walks and enjoy an OBP well over the .333 that Span can’t quite seem to achieve.
If Nunez is not suitable for that job, maybe Belt should be considered. Of course he is not your stereotypical leadoff guy, but he gets on base more than anybody else on the team and is relatively indifferent as an RBI threat. Dude has been seriously miscast as a #6 and a fair fit at #3.
The Giants must really be worried about the long-term health of Panik or Duffy or both. Or are setting up another deal.
Jim Bowden said this about the trade . . . “Giants do what they usually do at trade deadlines make precision under the radar moves that end up being significant acquiring Eduardo Nunez from Twins (remember Marco Scutaro and Javier Looez trades in past deadlines?) He fills in at 3B at least until Duffy comes back and then gives them versatile player who can also play 2B & OF. He leads AL with 26 SB with 12 HR .300 AVG. Twins get LHP Adalberto Mejia in return who profiles just as 6th or 7th inning reliever or 5th starter.”
Meanwhile, Hillary drones on . . . Sheesh, I hate these “State of the Union” type laundry list speeches. I think she has covered just about every issue and demographic known to mankind.
Blade: Check out Mejia’s stats throughout his minor league career. I’d rate the dude (23) as a probable #3 starter just judging by his track record.
Nunez, an IFer?
OK, to me that means Duffy is on the back burner. And, Craw’s errors back east probably generated some concern for his condition, and playing too much. This guy can play SS, right?…
Wait did they make the Nunez deal????
yep, straight up for the pitcher Mejia…
Snarkk, scroll back to my precis on Nunez, between the 7:36 and 7:38 postings.
OK, will do. I got to this party late…
ok
Husband and wife presidents is almost as unlikely as the 3 Alou brothers in the outfield together…
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/the-myth-of-the-alou-brothers/?_r=0
the only thing I’m worried about with Nunez is the transition to the NL. Cause if he handles that, he probably our best lead off hitter if you consider all his stats, not just OBP
Joe Girardi had one of his imaginative nicknames for him: “Nunie”
that’s incredible creativity. Bochy is nearly just as skillful with his nicknames
What does trading for an infielder say about 000 and his many recent home runs in rehab? On one hand, it makes sense, on the other, it makes sense because they have crap for backup infielders in the minors? Anyway, I don’t know Nunez at all, but his stats look pretty good at the plate…
he’s only 29 and I think he might be juicing and I like that.
I was thinking about that, too. Interesting that a career wet noodle bat guy suddenly starts cranking dingers…
Me too Flav!
GH:: The salt-water taffy, the low-tide stink, the bumper cars, Wild Mouse or whatever the jerky rollercoaster next to the big one, the wooden fixtures, the smells. Get this: there were batting cages that jutted out to the water. The balls landed in the water unless I’m have a psychotic fugue. Our class in 6th grade went there. I won a crucifix. Dennis F. mocked me. Louise L. defended me. Don’t know that Yacht Club. We Stamford kids were carrying their bags caddying [take no offense, pls]. The yacht club in Stamford was known for having July 4 fireworks a day early. Willie Mays lived in New Rochelle for a while. Um, so did Rob Petrie, aka Dick Van Dyke. Your story of the lost bag is the QUINTESSENCE of male-female interactions in 21st century America.
Willie and Rob were neighbors?…
Didn’t Rob Petrie run for political office in one episode…..or perhaps it was a season-long storyline? Or is this my psychotic fugue?
Did Petrie marry a real dish?
Yep, you’re spot on Mr. Diggity . . . No need for anti-psychotic meds.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0559831/
Carstie, that went over my head for 12 minutes.
I can’t watch any of that convention stuff, but I do wish I’d seen a bit of Chelsea after seeing Flav’s “37 qualudes” comment.
Never heard of Nunez, but sounds like a nice pickup.
I think FP Santangelo has improved significantly as an analyst.
I’ve always like FP, as a player and color guy. I know I’m in the minority on that.