Winning Dumb
Lastly.. Only the Giants lame medical staff would say Span is ok to bunt, but since he has a strained quad maybe he can but but not run????Idiots. He has been lousy so not like losing a great player..but really??? He can’t play because of a muscle strain but lets let him do a bunt and see if he can hurt himself sprinting to 1st if the bunt is bad. I’m sure that never happens!!
I read this last night and it resonated. Great point…..
I’m wondering what the great and all powerful and all-knowing Nunie has in store for us today. What bounty of gifts will he bestow? Finally we have someone exciting at the top of our lame line up……
Come on Evans step up and bring in Jay Bruce…interesting that SI has a story on the idea if trading Trout. One exec speculated it would take three elite prospects and two big-league caliber pitchers…Giants are out…
Thank goodness they are out. We don’t need Trout to win another WS…
If we win today, we will be on a winning streak!
Forgot who, but someone asked about why did the Padres trade Kemp? Here is the best column about the why and who benefits. Basically it is a salary dump and Olivera will be cut soon after he becomes a Padre. Great column!
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/72684/padres-send-matt-kemp-to-braves-in-exchange-of-bad-contracts
It still is kinda odd Pads couldn’t get more for Kemp from someone, don’t you think?. Wonder if that story SD related about his poor OF play and general I got mine ($$$$) tude had more to do with it.
Apparently not, or someone else would have bit with a better offer. As the columnist points out, “Kemp has been barely above replacement level at 0.2 WAR, thanks to bad defense and a poor .285 OBP,” so I think they were fortunate to get this deal. Now the Padres have flexibility to move forward on plans for next season. In short, I think Kemp was like an anchor around their neck.
Willie, the guy that I like is Will Myers. He has actually been a worthwhile pick up for the Padres (please chime in SanDog with your opinion) and I think he’s finally blossomed to the point where he can be the centerpiece of their team going forward.
I was listening on radio, and miller said Bum was in the on deck circle beforehand. He was called back so Span could lay down a sac bunt, which he screwed up with a poor bunt in front of plate and got the runner thrown out at 2b and almost got doubled up.
Then immediately they pinch ran for him.
The plan by Bochy was not a bad one at all (and Bum is up to there to swing away); his player didn’t execute it and then he got him off the field fast as he could. Dang, tough crowd–lot of complaints Bochy never bunts, he finally does and he still gets shit.
Pls tell me who plays CF (after watching Pagan in LF, he’s out of ?)–everyone hates Span and Blanco it appears. Blanco had 2 hits walk and the only rbi the other night, plus another hit and walk yesterday. 5 times OB in 2 games plus a rbi. He had an excellent year last year at the plate with .780 OPS—maybe he can pick up and finish season stronger. Like it or not this is who Giants are 2016 anyway.
We’ve all read it and all have said it: El Tiburon Blanco can be an excellent player if he does not start on a daily basis. Three or maybe 4 times per week would be ideal. He needs to be in the low-pressure zone somewhere towards the bottom of the lineup. He seems to thrive when taken for granted and overlooked by the opposing battery.
I’m not as down on Span as most are but he is a speed guy who seems to break down a lot.
I had the Nats feed here and their guys said Span had problems with the sac bunt, so the Nats used to tell him to bunt for a hit in those situations (fuck me, I’m repeating FP Santangelo. please, shoot me now). So in theory I understand what Boch was going for but if Bum was just going to swing away, maybe Cain or another pitcher could have gotten the bunt down better than Span.
I actually like Span. I like Pagan and Blanco too, but understand and even encourage the Giants to go in a new direction next season. Span gets a lot of grief, but I think other than his sub par batting average, he’s essentially performed as advertised when compared to his career numbers.
Disagree. I think his OBP needs to go a bit north.
Could be we turned the corner yesterday. Sure there were alarums and excursions, warts even. The take, though, was the dissipation of the hapless, helpless inertia that has been plaguing the team since the Break. Once Bochy gets his lineup figured out and established, a reinvigorated offense with the addition and returns of Nunez, Panik and Pence, should no longer resemble wilted lettuce and wet noodles. We’re getting our oomph back.
Still questions on the rotation, but i sure did dig me some performance by the Bullies. So much hangs on Cain’s performance today. At least he is not facing the formidable long-fly lineups featured by Boston and the Reds and he is pitching at home. A “quality” start of giving up no more than 3 in six would probably do the trick with that reinvigorated lineup and a pen which appears to have returned to focus and to the clearly defined roles and situations which develop that focus.
Winning today would prepare the team for what could be the most grueling road trip of the season.
Watched the Tribe blast a few bombs off the A’s kid SP last night as they won handily. Now they get A Miller from Yanks for 4 prospects. They are gonna be tough.
One guy on a site commenting about Miller deal used the words “new Champ City” to describe Cleveland, adding…”at least until football.”
Injuns did lose out on Lucroy as the dude invoked his “no trade to Cleveland” clause. Guess that other lakeside makes him claustrophobic. Perhaps Indians have a prospect coveted by some team out there looking to reboot and the Giants could offer Susac for that prospect/s and quickly package and flip him for a capable #2 setup man ~ or in a bigger package for a reliable #3.5 starter.
Nice post end of last thread 10 PM our time from Loo on value of Blanco.
I’m sure Giants want reg ABs for Parker, only for another month til Sept call ups. Probably same thing for Specs.
Noticed Craw went into play SS late, second time Bochy has done this lately when Craw was out of the LU.
But what was interesting to me was Nunez took over 2b for Panik and made the turn on the DP they got for Romo. Now that is a definite hmmnn.
I don’t think so, Willie. I think the line of thought there is that Panik just came back from a long lay-off, and they will do things like this to slow play him. Just my opinion…could be wrong.
Going to be difficult to make money today with rain threatened games in 4 of 9 cities (early games).
Why don’t you call the NYSE and ask them to open up for a while during rain delays?
I’m on it Loo.
Epic meltdown for Chapman yesterday. Came in game 8th 2 outs 2 on with 1 run lead and gives up double that clears bases and pins L on Arrieta. Then the runner gets tremendous jump and steals 3b on him and later comes home when Chapman throws a wild pitch.
Neither the Nats nor the Mutts particularly scare me, though both have some good players. Now with the Chapman meltdown resulting in Arrieta’s loss, the Cubs look a bit vulnerable as well. It is possible that SF has just exited their most daunting seasonal crisis. We will know more in a few hours. If Cain can simply pitch like a decent #5 today i think our offense and bullies will be up to the task.
I love this team and I love you guys.
More wine, anyone?
Pass the bottle this way, Edd. What ya drinking? I just picked-up my wine shipment yesterday…have a good selection if you want to stop by.
I owe myself a stopover, Mr. M. I have been in hang town or driving by on 49/50 6 or 7 times this summer each time think of a visit. Make it so, edd. If I wait until I get my bike we may both be retired and living in Vietnam with Steve and Paul.😁
Eduardo Nunez (SS)
Angel Pagan (CF)
Hunter Pence (RF)
Buster Posey (C)
Mac Williamson (LF)
Brandon Belt (1B)
Joe Panik (2B)
Conor Gillaspie (3B)
Matt Cain (P)
Not a bad lineup. I’ve lost half track of who bats L.R. or S. They could do some damage ~ a quality likely essential in a Cain start.
This is hilarious. Loo and Mac might have seen it yesterday. Fan Steals Home Run and Gives Dikembe Mutombo Wag
…but then got called for fan interference and removed from his seat, I heard. Is that right?
Yeah, they overturned the HR. lulz.
Terrible call. Flores was livid.
15 minutes of fame for another idiot…
That’s awesome. That kid should never have to pay for a drink the rest of his life. I love it!
You know what’s also funny Joe? That is Dahl, the Sherpa rookie, who said, “I was going to catch that ball.” lulz
The kid should have been taken behind the bleachers to smack that lame ass smile….
…just to chime in on the Matt Kemp/Padre talk, when you factor in the cash the Pads sent to the Braves and the Dodgers financial obligations on BOTH of those contracts, the Pads end up saving about $7 million total by dumping Kemp. Not the huge savings I initially assumed they would be realizing, but I guess they really wanted to unload him due to his lethargic attitude (which I saw in person the other day) and simply to open up a spot for one of their young players and to not have to deal with Kemp being a distraction riding the bench. Its gonna be ugly at Petco for a while, but I give them credit for fully committing to rebuilding and going young. For some odd reason, it actually makes me want to catch a few more of their games live just to be there on the ground floor of what they are doing and to check out their young guys.
@ Blade re Wil Myers….yes, good player. I also think he has matured a bit this year. In interviews I saw with him last year, he kind of came off as a meathead who reminded me of Nook LaLoosh (kind of looks like him too) and I didn’t always like his body language on the field. Seems like this year he has grown up a bit and is ready to be the face of the franchise. The Pads did pay dearly to get him though, giving up several prospects including highly regarded pitching prospect Joe Ross (Tyson’s brother–from Oakland) and this kid Trea Turner playing against us for the Nats who looks to have really sparked their team.
Regarding Myers . . . This is the type of detail I like. I only knew about his stats being 100% improved, but had no idea about his previous attitude. Thanks for the input SD.
LIve shot from Span-Cam:
lulz. Cannot recall if Blade or I told you, but when we were on the bug coming into NY, we saw a cat who looked just like the man above. I was too slow to get a photo, but Blade and I both noticed him immediately, and you came to mind.
Miller to Cleveland. I like the “win now” attitude of Cleveland, whom are one of my closet favorite teams, along with Pittsburgh, when the Giants are out of the running. If the Giants fail to win it all this year, I will be rooting for Cleveland. I wish they could have pulled that deal for Lucroy too, but Lucroy apparently invoked his “no trade” contract clause. Anyone know why?
Yeah I don’t get it. Cleveland is in a pennant race and as far as cities go, I would take Cleveland over Milwaukee in a heartbeat. Downtown Cleveland is actually really nice (any major city with a nice casino downtown is tops in my book). It cleaned up well. Nice suburbs too, with some great golf courses.
I just came across this:
“Lucroy had told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel this offseason that he wanted to play for a contender.
“I want to win and I don’t see us winning in the foreseeable future. I want to go to a World Series. That’s what all players want. Rebuilding is not a lot of fun for any veteran guy,” he said.
Yet, according to multiple reports, Lucroy had asked the Indians to remove the option year in 2017 from his contract, making him a free agent this season, a request that was denied by Cleveland. According to USA Today, another hurdle was that the Indians would not guarantee Lucroy would be their starting catcher next season.”
He either wants to win or he doesn’t. He shouldn’t be spouting bullshit about winning, unless he really wants to win . . . uhh, not win with (personal) conditions.
Heard on radio that next year is last year of Lucroy’s deal. He figures he won’t get as much playing time when the regular catcher comes back, so he won’t be able to sell himself for a big payday as FA beginning 2018. So, he asked Cleveland for an extension as a condition of him OKing the deal. They refused. It’s always about the money…
he’s a good hitter and with chance to DH in the AL would put up nice numbers. He has a very team friendly contract for next year. Tribe, a team on his no trade list to start with, wouldn’t meet his demands to change that, so no dice. I say good for him.
Plus he can still be traded elsewhere, likely to a contender (mets a possibility apparently).
Blanco has come up small in too many ABs for me, and slumped too long over the years when asked to play more than here and there. Sure, Blanco will stay the rest of the season, and I hope he catches the last out of another WS win for the Gyros. But, his leather isn’t THAT good to keep him around, witness his occasional throwing gaffes — he’s aging and needs to be gone next year to upgrade this outfield’s offensive output…
Looking toward next year, LF is a puzzle – unless they pull off a shocker for Bruce or spend a fortune for Cesedes. Blanco could still be brought back as a cheaper, more versatile alternative to Pagan…
I’d rather have Pagan than Blanco, and it’s not even close…
Time for salut to ride his caballo off into the sunset next year so K and K can proclaim a good Giant.
When he was going well his game was enjoyable, but no more. 3 error night in LF, unable to see the WP would allow him to score, too many 0-fers at top of LU for aging $10 mil player.
I don’t want either back, but if I had to choose to stay for a season, it’s Pagan. He gives the offense energy, Blanco sucks it away…
I am with Tom on this one. Give me Pagan all day every day over Blanco. I said it numerous times in the past few days when someone had to go to make room or Panik and Pence. IMO, Blanco should have been DFA’d. I would have kept Pena or Parker around, instead.
I think a full year of Mac and Parker upgrades the offensive output by a lot. Small sample size this year, but both have some pop and appear to gaining an idea of what to swing at and what to let go.
The thing about Blanco is his ability to play CF, which is what seems like problem spot to me. Parker has been there a couple times only, so one of the backups needs to be able to play CF…unless they figure Nunez could do that. I’m really interested to see what they do with him rest of the season, and if it means someone gets moved to get him in the LU somewhere full time.
Agreed. CF has been a problem with no really good LT solution since Darren Lewis. Blanco has the leather and speed for it, but the bat is just way too spotty for me. This team needs OF power and production. I’ve no clue whether Mac or Parker can provide consistency, but they need to find out. Those two are not spring chickens…
Obviously, I wouldn’t want Blanco back as our regular LF.
Just for the same role he was always intended to play, but was always asked for more due to injuries…
Nice call by mrsprtdude on the Span bunt medico quandary. The Giants spin the medico PR top with the best of them. The local scribes never dig into the medical stuff, so the Giants just throw that stuff out with iimpunity. Whatever. If they figured Span needed a mental break because he’s been tepid, at best, at the plate, that’s fine with me. The guy has been average, not a difference maker. With Nunes now here, we can see how comatose Span has been. I’d put Nunes out in CF when he’s not spelling the IF guys. The guy has and can play OF. Nothing like a shot of new blood to rile things up. Anyway, with Cain and Gio G going today, this game figures to be a bit of a slugfestt. I’m hoping Cain can keep the HRs down to only one before Bochy pulls him. 5-inning rule applies, unless SF has a huge lead. Cain is the latest Zito contract albatross, until he proves otherwise. He’s going for win 100 today…
Upcoming hot roadie, would be nice if SF can get a springboard win today.
Temps this week:
Philly — low to mid 80s with 70% humidity. Not horrible.
DC — mid 80s to low 90s end of week/weekend. 70+% humidity. I’ve lived in the DC area, that’s towards horrible. Not good for SF.
Miami — indoors…
Parker and/or Mac might not even be Giants in 24 hours…
They can deal Parker IMO, not Mac. For ATT, much better to have a RH power bat…
Would have loved the Boch gnome.
i’m sure you can pick it up on Ebay a little later tonight…..
Nunie gave it a ride in at bat #1, didn’t he? I’m getting very tired of that fucking gnat Revere.
This Nunie has to play every day, Bochy has to get creative to find spots for him to play. He’s got energy, exactly what the Giants need. I’d play the guy for Span, especially since Span’s quad is in such bad shape…
100% agree with you, as usual
You can buy one on eBay right now, I am sure. People list those things weeks before the actual giveaway day. I would wait a week or so. Right after the giveaway the prices are usually up for stuff like this.
Thanks to both you and Flav . . . I want FREE, i.e., the giveaway. Not a big souvenir guy where I would buy this stuff.
The Dodgers’ Norris had to leave in the first inning. Looked like a quad issue to me. The manager and trainer came out to the mound, and Norris talked them into letting him stay in, and he faced one more batter, then had to come out. It shows how hard it can be to deal with injured players. They’ll often just flat-out lie about how they’re feeling. A player can sense the DL looming over their head, and they want to try to play through something, and see if they can somehow get over it.
Gillaspie’s hit had a great sound.
A pitcher’s least favorite sound: a ball completely squared up.
That win yesterday has got to be a boost and rush for Cain…. 5Ks after 3 innings…
Love to know if Pence gave a pump speech before the game today….
Gillaspie with another whack, off LHP no less. Doubled and scored off Scherzer too; think he had 2 hits off him.
Guy is making a case for himself.
The dude never gets cheapies. His hits are hits, he’s slow as molasses…
We needed that error…change in karma…
Did Posey miss a hit and run ???
rest my case.
lucky enough not to end inning with the GIDP, Pagan gets the CS with Posey up there. Unreal.
If Bochy called for a Double Steal, it’s on him. If Nunez went on his own, Pagan should have stayed put. Need to ask that after the game…
Oy, what the heqq was that play? Double steal goes bad? I wanted Boch to get creative, but sheezus, you do that with none or one out, not with two out and Posey hitting. Could Nunez start that himself after being here only a couple of games — doubt it…
Watching Posey’s reaction I think he missed a sign…
Nunez’ speed is giving Bochy some creativity. Despite that F up, I like it. This trade looks really good so far. Congrats to Sabevans for picking this guy up. A Scutaro redux would be great…
Pagan was the runner on 1b. There’s 2 outs, so Posey can’t swing at any old pitch and ground out to 2b or SS to protect a runner.
If you run you have to make it or the inning is over. That’s NOT on bochy!
Posey singled off this guy first time up and now he doubles. You can’t end an inning like that.
Are you saying Pagan didn’t try? The tag was close, and a near perfect throw by the catcher. We need to hear from Bochy after the game to see what was called or not called on that play. You can’t guarantee a steal. I tend to think GHead is right seeing the replay, Posey probably missed a sign, the right side of the IF was open because the 2d sacker moved to take the throw, and Posey is tops at going the other way. A missed sign makes the most sense — Baggs is saying that on his twitter…
Posey immediately put his head down almost in a sense of shame…knowing he f’d up..
But if it is a hit and run, the timing typically gets screwed up for the catcher to at least make that throw harder…
Good job Matty…now hit the showers….
Exactly. Bochy is smartening up with handling Cain and Peavy. Pen is going to get taxed, but there’s Sept callups. What else can be said if these two guys can only go 5 tops every start?…
Five clean innings by big Matt. Reminds me of a horse i usta follow.
5 no hit innings. bit wild with the FB, but helluva lot better than I expected
You Bum!!!!!
Bum is awesome. If it weren’t dangerous for his oblique, he should PH more often…
Pence, psychs em out.
Zimmerman is hopeless at first base. That wasn’t that difficult of a ball to scoop and he didn’t even touch it…
So, you’re not buying the Pence whammy?
For whatever reason, this is always my reaction when Kontos comes into a game:

Now that he’s given up one run, we need your next gif on him… 😉
Dang. Good thing he got out of the inning without allowing the tying run… 😉
hoooooweeeeeeeeee
winning dumb lol. If Nats do wind up losing this they will definitely have lost dumb.
Neither of Giants runs should have scored, and they should have had at least one that inning.
Somehow i had a premonition going into the inning that Kontos would flubadub. At least they got only one and Matt ain’t Cained out of a well-earned chance yet.
Williamson’s fielding is feast or famine in the OF. Kid needs to take about 10,000 fungoes in the off season…
Leftfield is a terrible sun-field at AT&T, but if he wants that job, he does have to learn to play it better.
Cain only went 4 i think. nevermind. brain fart.
I;m having a bad week
The D-Backs are bungling their game with the Dodgers, making errors.
D-Backs are equal opportunity bad. Hopefully LaRussa is enjoying every minute of the mess…
Yeah, he and Stewart are having a fun summer.
Nice clean inning from Strick.
All that shit I said about Span. I take all that shit back.
NOT. But wtf…we’ll take a three bagger…
Spammin’ Span, with the lead off triple.
Marichal has said that he’s not particularly fond of the nickname “The Dominican Dandy,” and who can blame him?
Span . . . Winning Flappers to his side the world over. 🙂
Do not get carried away there Blade. He has a long way to go in my book.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Borderline gferr
Them borderline gfeers will get ya every time.
El Caballo Loco!
A clean hit. Yesssssss
Span with an amazing recovery on that quad…. 😉
Only because of the Gigante’s crack med squad…
Crack is whack.
And the appearance by trade of a guy that might take his job?…
Do we…might I ask…have a conga line in process???
Closest conga line imitation I have seen since before the All Star break. Take it.
In spades.
Pagan got the RBI. Blanco with his usual K at crunch time, and Conga stoppage…
Sorry for dumping on Amy (for the Amy lovers out there), but did she just roll out of bed? Hair do is . . . uhh . . . better not say it.
Be very cool to see Cainer get his 100th.
Man, the nats haven’t wanted any part of Belt this series.
I guess that 18th innng still stings
Why the hell did the braves get kemp?
Bargain discount price.
Loving the way Strickland and Law have been developing as MLB relievers. The quality is starting to show. There may be some more speedbumps, but looks as if we have a couple keepers.
Stix, who is the most MLB ready starter in the Giants system? If Peavy or Cain got hurt, who would the minor league guy be to take the spot? Assuming Suarez didn’t…
With Mejia now with the Twins it’s pretty much a no-brainer. Ty Blach is the front man at Sacramento. Last i checked his ERA was in the respectable 3.60’s while leading the PCL in wins with 11.
Broken record here, but Bochy must really hate bunting. Seriously hate it. Panic fouled his first sac bunt, so they took the bunt off. K ensues…
No shit. Another opportunity to move a runner o over wasted. The hit should drive n a run…
I’m not sold on Stricknyne yet. Law came in and pretty much got people out from the get-go. Strick has been here long enough to know how to do his job by now.
OK, strap on the seat belts. Casilla on the bump with dudes that can swing the lumber…
That was a swing.
Whether it was or wasn’t, it’s on Casilla to even get near a hit batter to leadoff the inning. He has a habit of getting himself into trouble…
Casilla has that pitch that sails up and in to right-handed hitters.
Fuuck off Zim
Holy fuck. Casilla is a crazy mess. Nice come back on Robinson but sheesh
The guy seems to go mentally walkabout. Hit batter. Wild pitch. In between getting outs. Posey should have a pocket full of quaaludes for him when he goes to the mound…
Fucking Nuke LaLooosh
Ballgame! And, we have a winning streak!
Ballgame! Cain with his 100 th win!!!
Yes. Cain now 100-105 lifetime in I think about 300 or so starts.
Yep, I think it’s around 315. The first 4-5 years the guy couldn’t buy run support. Barely got any today…
Wow, Casilla gets ‘er done.
But, not without the usual bumpy ride…
Yes. 61
Two more wins and its guaranteed we will not have a 100 game losing season.
Yeah Stix, that is one way to look at it.
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Xoot!!!
A winning streak! What a concept!
They’re not hitting the cover off the ball. Far from it. But, they seem to be coming out of the coma, playing better. Good Pen work, plus an injection of Nunez seems to have done the trick…
An Ecstasy of Nunie gold!…
Nunie. Fuckin’ Nunie.
Their MO this year was never to hit the cover off the ball. It is all about getting and keeping the conga line moving.
There’s a Hungry Horse Dam out in deepest Montana. Our ol’ horse was pretty hungry today and he got it. Congratulations to Matt Cain on his no-no for 5 to earn #100.