No Reason
I can’t come up with a single reason to be optimistic about this upcoming home series vs the Dodgers except for the “no reason” angle. Before we went to KC I thought it was entirely possibly we go 1-8. Even after we squeaked out the first one in extras I thought it was still possible that 1-8 ignominiously unfolded.
But there is always “no reason” to pin your hopes to. Things happen for no reason all the time. It’s one of the main reasons that sports books stay in business. If everything worked out as it appeared on paper, they’d go broke.
So let’s here it for NO REASON! Come on baby! We believe in you!!!!!
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Head East had a great song in the 70’s”Never been in reason”
That’s all I have right now.
Damn Kat…just took me down memory lane. This song was really popular back in the mid-70s when I was living in Wyoming…
Great song
The song that always springs to mind is Bob Seger’s Gat Out of Denver, Baby.
Just got s call from a friend with a ticket. Anyone going tonight?
FU – remember during ST when I said the Giants would win 92, and the NL West Division? I believe I must have been drunk off my ass or smoking some really good shit (or both)!
With the injuries and the shitty ball this team is playing right now, it is hard to be optimistic (and I am probably one of the more optimistic here).
The good. I had a ton of shit to do this weekend, and missed almost all of the Rox series.
I can clearly remember watching Mark Davis wipe out LA at the Stick in one of his first starts.
Maybe Blach does the same and Moore regains form.
That guy was a good pitcher.
Saw him a couple times, and never was a big fan, but every time the Giants play there, I think of this (and it rocks pretty good) . . .
I think Zum mentioned this yesterday but Arroyo had 4 hits and won the game with a no doubt rocket off the wall. Stubbs led off and played CF and Morse got 4 ABs and a double.
I’d imagine Morse and Stubbs replace Marrero and Hernandez very soon, and someone else takes HIll’s spot. Hwang had 2 hits and is at .285. At some point SF needs to bring him up or let him go (end of June I think). Not sure how he fits in to their ultimate plans but I’d like to see him get a real shot at ml pitching/ml yards.
The thing I heard the other day, which absolutely floored me, was they were waiting to bring Arroyo up until he went into a slump and then got out of it to see how he reacts to going in to a slump in the first place.
There’s taking the long view, and then there’s taking the stupid view.
I remember the Astros using the same excuse for why they weren’t calling up Carlos Correa a couple years ago.
Hmmm…I saw an interview with Evans where he was asked the question about Arroyo coming up, and that was not a part of the reasoning. This was on CSNBA (or whatever the fuck it is called now)…may be out there for viewing. Will see if I can find it…
If true, that’s one of the more stoopid things I’ve heard in a while. Maybe we give these guys in the FO too much credit. Just bring his ass up and let him play…
That’s got to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. I can only hope that the Giants are NOT feeling that way.
It is absolutely baffling the Hwang signing. If they signed him, leave him in AAA, and then let him go in June, what was the fucking point?
If Nooner is holding him back, dump Nooner. He hasn’t done enough to warrant sticking with him. I’m not married to any of these guys short of Craw and Panik on the infield. Letting Belt play OF is all well and good (and pathetic when you think about it) but put ANYONE out there from the farm.
Arroyo would be a good add, maybe Okert could start too. The boys should be adequately humbled by their really cruddy play to use that as a jumping off place.
I’ll be watching, just like everyday.
Blach will get most of the starts until he proves he cannot fit the bill. I think the rope will be pretty long given how this team is scuffling. Okert is a valuable late-inning guy…don’t see him getting an starts, plus he has always been a reliever in pro ball.
Fair enough, just wish some thinking outside the box by mgt. would happen to see if a shake up could help turn it round.
I am with you…they need a shake-up, big time!
I was catching-up on some of the past threads and found the comment (from Pawlie) about teams starting the season losing 12 of 18 NEVER making the playoffs in the WC era.
Time to make it a first. Yes, things look dismal now, but I am with the Clown (comment from last thread) that with a few tweaks, I think this team can make the playoffs (John said could be a championship season). I say let’s punch a ticket to the dance and see WTF happens.
I agree with you Chi, with one condition – No later than the end of this month, they begin a “conga line” of minor league players (Hwang, Slater, Arroyo, Morse, Williamson, and/or fill in the ______ ).
Keep “throwing shit against the wall until it sticks.” Just my opinion, but no more and no less than 150 at bats for each of these potential saviors. Don’t do the aforementioned, game over . . . Kiss the season good bye. It will be too late to wait for the All Star break and/or trade deadline.
Agree, Blade. They need to start mixing shit up, because the team as currently constructed sucks ass….
Here’s hoping this little blast from the past keeps Cainer on the straight and narrow:
Giants @ Mariners, Saturday May 23rd, 2009 in Seattle. The Giants won 5-1, as Matt Cain went the distance and looked good doing it. Cain’s line: 9 IP, 10 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB and 7 K’s. Juan Uribe of the Giants hit a 2 out bases clearing double in the 8th inning, and Fred Lewis followed that up with a 2 run homer to straightaway right field. Both hits came off of Mark Lowe of the M’s.
BEAT THE DOG-EARS!
Willie says, “Giants orange trumps Dodger blue EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK!”
DFS . . . Definitely not confident, but I have a platoon stack going tonight with Pence, Posey and Nunez. I think they will be significantly under owned in fantasy this evening.
i haven’t owned a single Giant hitter yet this year.
Half hour since I made up my initial LU . . . Buster Posey already gone. Pfffttt! May shit can the bunch of them by game time. Ha.
Probably not a bad call, Blade. I don’t think Nunez has faced Ryu, but in 22 ABs against him, Pence has hit him really well (.455), Posey has done OK (.273) and has a HR against him. I would imagine that Hill will get a start tonight, in 16 ABs he’s hitting .438 with a HR against Ryu.
Nooner is inexpensive when compared to what’s available at 3rd base this evening. He also has the platoon advantage against Ryu (which is why I have Pence and possibly Posey going tonight). Nunez is a good choice in fantasy because stolen bases are big points and Ryu’s best pitch is a slow change up.
Could not find the video with Evans where he was discussing Arroyo, but here is an article where he basically says the same thing he said in the video I was referencing.
http://www.knbr.com/2017/04/20/bobby-evans-offers-rationale-on-why-christian-arroyo-is-still-in-the-minors/
Don’t hold your breath on seeing Arroyo anytime soon, boys and girls…
He did say that if Arroyo comes up, it would only be with a position change by Nunie (to LF), and he said something to the effect that this isn’t even being considered right now…
Well, they have to do SOMETHING soon, because this team is stinking up the joint…
I’m OK If Span goes on the DL and they bring up Stubbs to replace him, but the guy I’d like to see replace Hernandez right now, this very second, is Slade Heathcott. He is in AA for us right now but when the Yankees brought him up for a cup of coffee in 2015 he had 10 hits in 25 ABs, 2 of them Jacks. Compare that to Gorkys’ 48 Hits in 252 ML ABs. Slade can play CF and the corners. Truly only a temp solution because he’d probably blow out a knee in a month or 2 anyway But hey, give Heathcott a shot…
In the current state of affairs, I am wide-open to mixing it up, but if Heathcott gets the call, who drops on the 40? Do you DFA Gorkys?
Yes.
Welcome, Jillymaui!
Thank you!
I got my first royalty statement for CHASING WILLIE MAYS today.
A. I don’t believe it. B. It’s commensurate with the Giants’ performance on the field thus far.
So much for fuckin expectations.
Congrats on the payment, Pawlie. While perhaps not meeting your expectations, better than a sharp stick in the eye. No?
Gorkys’ defense isn’t even all that good. He flubbed another ball yesterday.
Gorks is playing his final days of major league baseball. He got a gift shot and blew it. Not only can’t he hit but apparently his sukitude at the plate is affecting his supposed great defense for some reason. I’m not really sure why that would happen unless he’s just completely shot mentally.
Anyone missing Blanco?? Yes I am!!
Me too.
I’ve always liked me some Blanco. Angelic Pagan, where are you, celestially or terrestially?
I’d take Andres Torres right now, period, no matter what shape.
Jesus who would of thought that Matt Cain would be our Ace now???
I decided to fade all Giants hitters this evening in DFS. Too many other better options.
Cain was a nice feel good story for a couple of starts. Tonight, I think the “feel good” emotions end. Bums have one of the best offenses against right handed pitching. Actually, with the current Cain, he’s the shits against both left or right-handed hitters. I just read that he has a higher wOBA to lefties (.390) and a higher hard contact rate to righties (35.4%), e.g., Justin Turner will potentially destroy him with a reverse-splits .388 wOBA against right handed pitchers. OH OH. At least tonight, I think the pain continues for the Giants.
Congratulations Pawlie for the royalty payment!
the weather is not really optimal for hitters today.
Bring back the “Hydrants”
Bozo, did you say big Jim Slade Heathcott? Sounds good to me.
PS. if you like crude humor from the 70’s, Kentucky Fried Movie is for you.
I was talking about that movie TODAY with a buddy at work
Heh heh. If you haven’t seen Tunnel Vision and Groove Tube, check those out as well.
He can play the field and he has a big bat? Sign him up…
I hope we get one more strong performance out of Cainer. Be nice to see us beat the Dogs a few in a row.
Either that or we could be 12 out by May Day. . ..
(mayday mayday!)
Danger Will Robinson…Danger!
I’d even go for some Kelby. Klean house of those lacking a ‘sense of urgency,’ to use Bochy’s tired cliche.
Fricking Kelby in Sacto is a pisser to no end. he gets hits all the time> when he finally xcame back last year he was raking.
Wasn’t there supposed to be a raft of changes today?
The raft sunk in McCovey Cove Chuck..
lulz!
I did see that Mac Willamson was sent to Sacto for a rehab assignment. Hopefully a quick one.
From Pav: Source: Giants are calling up Christian Arroyo.
Ahh ha . . . The sense of urgency has finally hit the Giants brain trust. As I said yesterday, Flappers are constantly saying, “told ya so.”
Stubbs is up, too. Both are starting.
Arroyo wearing #22 and batting 6th tonight
Yes!!! Should be fun tonight. Anyone else gonna be there?
Glad to see Arroyo in 3rd slot for tonight
AK, the raft re-emerged!
Changes!! Yes!! And I hope they stick with the changes. It feels like we have an actual fully major league lineup tonight.
I have a feeling like when Posey came up in 2010 that a new era will begin for the Giants with Arroyo…
Also, Marrero DFA’d, Aaron Hill to DL (right forearm strain).
Hey, all the bitchin and moanin done here has paid off!!
I think management must read this blog!!
Not that I expect Stubbs to be anything great. But it has to be an upgrade at that position. How could it not be?
And Arroyo will have a learning curve. That’s fine. At least we have some hope now.
Arroyo up. Hey, management makes a move!
Hill with a forearm strain. Ha ha ha.
From what – jackin’ off in the clubhouse bathroom?
I am not seeing Gorkys gone. Keeping him for his supposed Defense.
Apparently only one DFA per day…
Why isn’t Span onto the DL? That’s why it’s 10 days now…
Good thing FO made the moves. Stubbs may not be a keeper, but how great would it be to see Arroyo arrive, perform, and stay. Charlie, agree with your post from this morning about Hwang. Bring him up too, otherwise, what was the point? He cannot possibly be any worse than a handful of *players* we’ve seen so far. Geez, even just these 2 little changes feel somewhat energizing. Hope the whole team feels that way too and performs accordingly.
Hey, the game is on the MLB channel back here. Gotta love that.
So, busy afternoon at work, then to the brewery for a couple this afternoon, and that was when I first heard about “The Moves.” These are the moves that FU had been calling for over the past several weeks.
All I can say is I hope like hell we get the desired results, because it really cannot get much worse than what we’ve seen to date.
Time to go on a 10-game win streak. Why the fuck not…and have Arroyo be one of the sparks that ignites it all!
The kid’s wearing the Thrill’s number. Let’s hope he starts out like Clarkie did.
Christ, Is Roberto Kelly manning third base tonight?
No shit Wilco…I saw that out coming from a mile away…
So, we have all had the discussion of the need for an OFer a million times, but
Would you take Puig (with all of his baggage) in our OF, right now?
I’ve consistently said I’d take Puig. In a heartbeat. Given the right coaxing and coaching, he’d be fine, very fine.
Yep. Down with what Kokonuts said.
I think a lot of his issues could be blamed on lack of maturity. No way I would have taken him a couple years back. I would take him in a nanosecond today.
And I am right there with you Pawlie and Blade. Imagine Puig and Bum hanging out and knocking back a cold one together!
Amy’s report on Bum – No way I can ever be upset with him. He was upfront and contrition was obvious, e.g., even saying it was irresponsible. Love the guy and I’m certain he’ll come back with a vengeance.
No word yet on his shoulder injury.
AC joint is separated shoulder territory.
Better hope no surgery needed to tighten that up…
Snarkk,
Giants brass will always want to screw around with the Flap,that’s why Gorky is still here on the roster to torture us. He’s the new replacement for 000 to drive us all nuts 🥜 all year long so enjoy your convulsions management would say!
Good out kid.
Arroyo talkin to Will the thrill!! How cool would that be.
No pressure kid only “The Ripper& The Thrill ” wore #22!
Arroyo did his job, moved Crawford over to 3rd and Panik drives him in with the sac fly!
Offense already looks more fired up with the replacement models..
Agree AK. Kid did his job and everyone looks pumped up. Tell ya what – if the kid starts raking, the vets will wake up even more IMO.
Absolutely. I think I t would be a huge spark.
Cain’s curveball tonight is really good so far. I think he hung one to Turner in the first inning, but Turner didn’t connect well on it.
His stuff has looked lively lately. Wouldn’t his re-emergence just be a kick in the pants….
I was one of many who had written him off, and would love for him to prove me wrong.
Sorry but a hell no to Puig. He’s always been an arrogant a-hole and I don’t see leopard changing his spots.
And let’s face it, Bum hates Puig, it would ruin the club house chemistry!!
Puig has himself an arm.
problem is a little north of there.
Puig has been an abject failure when you consider the hype and talent he had starting out a few years ago. Add in the fact that he has been a complete cancer to the clubhouse and he is a 100% NO for me.
Fuck yeah…nice play by Arroyo!
Here’s what I already love about Arroyo: he’s loose, having FUN, confident, not scared. His teammates already seem to love him. Bailed out Cain. did I say he’s having fun? It’s infectious. Speaking of chemistry, he just added to it.
Absolutely agree. The team needed a spark, they weren’t getting it from anyone else….
Romo says he’s *stoked* to be coming back to China Basin. His first appearance in a game will be interesting.
The story on him made me rethink his signing. He grew up a Dodgers fan; you can tell he has lots of friends on the SF side. He respects and admires what the Giants meant to him — and vice versa.
I saw a short interview on the pre-game.’I sure like that kid. He was money in 2012!
Yeah Romo got a nice deserved ovation from the fans. He will get another one if he hangs a frisbee pitch..
The Nationals walked into the Rockies buzz-saw tonight.
I know I’m an outlier, but I like Utley less than Puig. I’m not naive about Puig’s antics. I’m just saying he’d come around; he’d surprise. It ain’t gonna happen, so it’s idle speculation. Utley? Not a fan. Great player in his time, but . . . .
People change. We both know that on a personal level. I’m always open to giving anyone another chance at redemption. Again, down with what you said (albeit, it’s not going to happen). Good post.
thanks, Steve….I’ve been wrapped up with a move to a loft apartment, then a bit of pneumonia (I’m good now), so forgive me inquiring about something everyone else may know about:
are you a dad?
Not yet. Close though. Linh is due on July 14th (no idea how doctors are so certain about the date).
Apartment? Alone?
Agree all around Pawlie. It’s fun to dream and say “what if” sometime.
I’m still a strong “yes” on Puig.
Cain continues to surprise.
Glad to see Flem getting some TV time.
Why the hell did Sleep Train change their name to Mattress Firm? Seemed like Sleep Train was a super well established brand name. I don’t get that one.
They must have gotten bought by Mattress Firm. There is one on every corner in Houston. They make Starbucks look like a mom and pop.
That makes sense. Didn’t know Mattress Firm was an existing chain.
Anyone in the Bay Area getting this game on TV?
On DirecTV it’s 696-1 tonight because of the Warriors game.
105 on Comcast
Comcast 720 in Placerville/Sacto feed.
780 Comcast bay area
Cain has hit 90(!) a few times on his fastball tonight.
Cain just looks like the old Cain, meaning the one who can pitch. He’s got some of that redneck swagger back. Couldn’t have come at a better time. (I know, I know; it’s only the 5th freakin inning.)
Well, the team has lost its #1 starting pitcher, so the #5 (and former #1) stepping up would just be huge. Possibly Cain had some mental blocks that crept in after all his injuries and non-performance, and this year, his last year, could have given him a more relaxed mindset, kind of just saying fuck-it and going out and throwing with nothing to lose.
Very surprised by his performance. As Chi said, I would love to be proved wrong about him. A resurgent Cain would really help this team.
And 6th and 7th innings have not been familiar territory for him lately. He gets through these… then maybe his so-far good performance isn’t fluky anymore….
I don’t think you guys will have to worry about the Warriors tonight.
Why not Nunie drop a bunt for a hit to get Belt over to 2nd in front of Buster? Instead, fastest guy on the team shoots a worthless, unproductive fly to LF…
Even if Nunie got out with a bunt, he’d have moved Belt to 2nd, and Belt scores on that single by Posey. I am tired of this no-risk, no-creativity managing by Bochy…
Throw out his 1st start and Cain’s easily has been their best starter.Though Bum’s the new Cain in run support which hurt him along with his dirt bike 🚴
I think it was a year ago, maybe 2015, when Cards just embarrassed Puig. there was highlight reel of them striking him out over and over in playoffs. I just think league adjusted to him and he hasn’t figured out how to get back anywhere near where he was. He’s a super athlete but just an average hitter.
His own teammates, like AGon, have been exasperated with him. His own mgr. demoted him last year and Mattingly made fun of him bailing out and claiming various injuries. Too many red flags.
There are a few Dodgers I wish the Giants had but he ain’t one of them.
I see, Two Flaps Down Cap Night, April 29. Did they get permission from you, Magnus Flavoris?