Phucked in Philly
After an epic beat down that the Dubs dropped on The LeFlops last night we now turn to an epic let down that is the San Francisco Giants. I know The Phillies haven’t been good this year but you know what’s good for a bad team? The Giants. I’m actually looking forward to being back in another bandbox to see if the Cinny trip (where we were outscored 31 to freaking 5) was an aberration or if our offense really is that bad no matter the park they play in.
Philadelphia has a bunch of hitters I like who are under-performing. You know Tommy Joseph wants to go off. I really like their lead off hitter Hernandez and Freddy Galvis who bats down the order— 2 fast guys who can give them a “Billy Ham Light” effect. Their entire team is slow to start this season, just like the Giants, but they are young and I hold out more hope for them coming around than the aged and underwhelming group Bochy will trot out today. Belt should like hitting here and a bomb or two tonight would go a long way to us keeping pace with this fellow last place team.
Anyone else tired of hearing Steve Kerr stories about him coming back to coach in the playoffs? Enough already. He can’t do it and frankly will just be a distraction if he does come back. Interim coaches seem to do pretty well with this team and their amazing interim record can certainly call into question just how much Steve Kerr does in the first place.
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Losing the series to these guys who definitely suck. And speaking of suck, in their bandbox yard no one on their team has more than 8 HRs and they are 11th in runs. Bad offense, worse pitching.
M Franco is hitting .216 O Herrera .218 Galvis .227 (with 3 SBs, so don’t see much threat there.
Their pitching, mostly young except for retread J Hellickson, is dead last in league with most SPs ERA 5-ish.
Maybe on another thread, but dunno what there is not to like about Kerr, players he has and staff around him.
Sure better than preacherman Jackson era. Everything I’ve read players have deepest respect for him.
you watch. These guys will wake up vs us. They were much better hitters last year. Still young. Could easily get back to hitting well, probably against us. But really, if we don’t figure out how to hit the damn ball consistently and productively we’re fucked.
Mark Jackson is a great indicator of the job Steve Kerr has done.
If the “Billy Ham Light” effect lasts more than 3 days call the opposing team’s GM.
The media is the machine cranking out stories about Kerr. It ain’t coming from the building. In other words, I’m sure everyone on the team knows good and well that Kerr isn’t coming back to coach in the finals. In fact I’m pretty sure he’ll announce his retirement after the season ends. Barring (as he said himself the other day) a miracle cure.
He’s obviously got major health problems that are fucking with his head.
No question the Kerr stories are media-driven. I’m sure Kerr would be happy if he never had to hear one again. Kudos to Kerr and Meyers for bringing in a talented coach like Mike Brown just in case of a situation like this. If that’s not foresight, I don’t know what is.
BTW, I think Kerr’s latest procedure has worked and that he is getting better. I anticipate him being back to full coaching duties next year. As I understand it, the aftereffects he’s been suffering lasting this long are extremely rare.
I like the same young Phillie hitters as you Flav. Of course when they come thru for you as under owned sleepers on DraftKings that doesn’t hurt either. Same can be said for a few of those young Padre bats. By the way, for those of you that don’t play DFS, I can’t recommend it enough. I won another $350 the other night on a $4 entry. It’s really does make the season so much more enjoyable when the Giants suck. If you deposit $100 bucks, you can easily play every day for the rest of the season without having to add a penny to your account. Hell $20 could do the same for you as well.Not too many other forms of gambling can promise you that. We could even create a league of Flappers and play $1 games every day. Nice low level stakes, to keep things fun around here.
I liked seeing that guys like Blade and Zum (among others here) are in favor of a rebuild even if it means dealing some of our “good Giants.” I kind of miss the days of following the guys on the farm like we did pre 2010. It was exciting seeing the potential of guys like Lincecum, Panda, Posey, Bum, Crawford and others every night and eagerly awaiting their call to the show. Give me that for the next two-three years and I would be a much happier Giants fan than the one I am today.
great post. i’m working on 7 straight profitable nights in a row including popping Papagates for $50 heads up last night. Really does pass the time during this lost season.
Baggs wrote a piece earlier this week saying that this team is boring in the club house and missing the fun interactions between teammates. Paraphrasing but basically they’ve got too many white boys.
what I meant to say was losing this series to a crummy team like Philly would suck. The Reds have some hitters like Votto and Cozart, Philly ones have really struggled.
Flav does have a point most of their hitters are down from last year but even then they gave up 180 more runs than they scored and lost 90 after fast start. This year they are already down 50 runs in differential; the hitters just can’t keep up with how crummy the pitching staff is in that bandbox yard where everyone else rakes.
I liked Herrera Hernandez and Franco too and thought they would be better this year, instead they are worst team in ml at 17-34.
Nice column from blade end of last thread, thought provoking considering how Giants have long list of overpaying vets and keeping them around too long. Hmmn.
Yeah the Walsh philosophy was a great read.
you wonder if Sabean reads that and his head explodes.
They didn’t do it with Will Clark and that pissed me off.
I would be crazy to bet that the Giants would take the series against the Phills. I would be surprised if they do…
With the current deals the team is under, I don’t see how they keep Bummie. He’s thrown this season away with his escapades, which isn’t helping, but it looks like they have to wait until next July to move him. Assuming he comes back at some point late this year.
If the proverbial we can’t beat up the dregs of the east then we are miles away from contending.
Personally, 3 seasons ago, this would’ve been a fun series for me, as my Dad was a big Phils fan, and over the previous 20 years or so we’d always enjoyed talking about Giants/Phils series through emails and phone calls. I was lucky enough sometimes to be visiting the folks during those times and able to watch together…. including game 6 in 2010. Now, it’s still a potentially interesting series; these are 2 fairly equally *bad* teams, according to records and standings, but Philly seems to finally be in rebuild mode, something their fans were demanding 5 years ago. The Phils have already crashed and are now climbing their way up, if of course their youngsters pan out, always a huge “if”.
On the other hand, the Giants seem to be on the other side of the hill. And as I posted in the last thread, Sabes did it before… resurrected a last place team in just one year, his first year as GM. Trouble is, he’s pretty much the architect of this current last place team, so…. I’ve been pretty close sometimes to tuning out, but I firmly remain loyal and very curious to see how it all plays out ….. if they make changes. If status quo continues for weeks on end without changes… uh….uh…….
I’d be fine with a fire sale but I just don’t see the team having a fundamental shift in their philosophy and going all in on a sell off like the A’s. I tend to agree with those that have said new front office leadership is needed.
Agree, as well as on-field leadership…
https://oneflapdown77.com/2017/03/14/giant-bore/
Nuff said, huh…. good call on that, so far….
Mac and Loo (sounds likes a Kraft instant dinner), I’ll be in NJ for a week in mid-July, how ’bout an East Coast mini-Flooza….
Let’s make it happen!
Cheese House closed for good.
Good. And so it begins….
Good.
Yeah you take your choice on OF dumps!
Gorky&Morse next please!!
I still think it’s pretty hilarious that Morse got a concussion (dangers of concussions aside) from accidentally head butting Smarge during the brawl. Even Harper had a pretty good line about. Something about Morse saving him from getting pounded by Smarge.
Just read a tweet from one of the Astros beat writers who thinks Cueto will be a serious target for the club.
right on. Have at him!
He’s exactly what they need and I’m sure he wouldn’t mind going to a WS favorite for their stretch drive. We ight be able to pull a couple of nice prospects out of that rich Astros farm system.
Cueto’s got $100 million guaranteed if he doesn’t opt out, which I think he’d be crazy to do.
Are the Astros or anybody else up for that?
I doubt it, unless a portion can be offset by taking back a shit contract in return, which rarely happens.
I spent half a decade trying to trade Zito for Vernon Wells or Alfonso Soriano.
Last year I wanted to dump Cain for Jayson Werth…
I think the Giants would be willing to eat some of that money in order to get better prospects in return.
And I don’t think Cueto’s contract is nearly as bad as Zito’s or Cain’s. At least Cueto can still eat up innings and give you consistent sometimes dominant starts.
1. Denard Span (L) CF
2. Eduardo Nunez (R) 3B
3. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Joe Panik (L) 2B
7. Orlando Calixte (R) LF
8. Austin Slater (R) RF
9. Ty Blach (R) P
Interesting! And how rarely have we said that lately?
I can’t even name 3 players on Philly.This is a witness protection type team these days..
i just heard an unbelievable stat on KNBR: every single team in the Giants org is in last place. Every single one. That’s incredible.
I remember a few years ago before the Astros called up their young studs, every one of their minor league affiliates won their respected division. So yes, that has to tell you something.
Just got back from local auto shop (whIch I visit much too frequently), the owner has Phils season tix and was heading to tonight’s game. I’m going to tomorrow’s game. I’ll be in the south-of-Philly area anyway moving stuff out of daughter’s apartment, so hey, might as well go to the game. There’s the added bonus of an Avett Brothers concert after the game at CBB, I don’t know much about them but I think Chi has raved about.them, so they must be good. And Paul, would love to get together mid-July!
Avett Brothers put on a great show. Very cool!
Excellent, maybe I should just skip the ballgame part of it.
We can beat the Phils!
Well, Slater’s obviously not the answer…
Who is this in the booth with Kuiper?
Javy Lopez.
Thanks—a little smoother than Affeldt
Javy is a total pro. He’s got a show on KNBR and he really, really good.
We found a team worse than us!
I guess the scouting report vs. Phils pitchers says: Don’t swing.
BTW, Flavor – Joe Girardi has outdone himself with the nickname he gave Gary Sanchez…
let’s hear it…..regarding Blach, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. He really seems to understand the mindset of pitching. Kruk must love this guy.
Sanchy!
He stole that from Bochy who called Dirrrrty Sanchez that. And you can understand why he snagged it, it’s so original and creative.
I wonder what other offers the Giants had for Cepeda..
Guess we’ll never know…
I’m not sure which I more surprised by, the fact that every single team in the Giants org is in last place or the fact that Ray Sadecki, who pitched for the Giants in the 60s, was the last SF pitcher to walk 3 X in a game and he did it twice in freaking 8 days….
Yay Slater!
i wanted so fucking badly for that to be a ball. lol. Four times woulda really been something to hang our hats on this season.
this is a fun game.
My Man Span
Slater seems to hit off his front foot.
Unless your name is Henry Aaron that usually isn’t so good…
He doesn’t have the prettiest swing. Kinda choppy.
Blach beauty!
Good game by Blach. Way to go Giants….
Ty Blach, goddamn.
I’d take Javy 10 times out of 10 over Affeldt.
He has potential.
Phils threw 200 pitches according to Miller and Flem on radio…to the Giants of all teams. Good lord they’re bad.
I’ll echo zumie, the Phillies are worse than us. Chew on that one for a while. And your silver lining for the year, Ty Blach developing into a legit ML pitcher in the absence of Bum. Be’s been lights out for about a month now.
Cueto owes them one too. I remember a game last year when Phils were in SF. He was sailing along then got mad at ump and Phils wound up beating him.
June 26. Giants had 5-1 early lead that Cueto blew wound up going 6+ 8 hits 6 earned. No L tho giants won it 8-7 in 9th.
Watching Nats spank the A’s. Lot less annoying with no Harper.
There also was the Cueto start I was at in Philly, when Bochy left in a clearly gassed Cueto to blow a lead in the 8th and Giants lost in 12.
interesting take from Heyman:
The expectation is, Johnny Cueto will opt out. He will have $84 million and four years to go. “Absolutely, he will,” one rival executive said. That makes sense, as he’s clearly a cut above even very fine pitchers like Mike Leake ($80 million), Jeff Samardzija ($80 million) and Wei-Yin Chen ($75 million).
Does that help or hurt his trade value?
I think you look at him like a rent-a-player at that point. Like Beltran.
Nats are just a good hitting team, fun to watch if they aren’t kicking your ass. They don’t K much and put the ball in play. Couple bombs 11 hits top of 5 in Oaktown up 6-2…without Harper and his way over 1.000 OPS.
Jack O’Neill. RIP. When I was in HS, surfing Privates on a good sized day, One-Eyed Jack paddled out, roaring with surprise when he made the line up. A couple of young guys who knew him followed, laughing like hell. Must’ve been some sort of psychedelic adventure. He never came close to catching a wave. He couldn’t even see them coming. htf do you take chances like that when you’ve already lost one eye to clumsy play in the water? I never understood it. Of course, that same approach made him a huge amount of money in the wet suit business.