After (+/-) 37 Games in Atl, We Finally Come Home
One thing we learned about this season: rally tupperware does not work. My understanding is that the Giants landed in SFO around 5am this morning. My guess is that they will not be peaked tonight vs the Mets.
Has Bryan Morris been DFA’d yet?
Is Matt Cain still a trusted #5?
Big news on the Stix front. Our shackled Flap friend has got a plea deal in place with the government. Sentence still unknown. Big thanks to XOOT for staying on top of this and keeping us informed.
A Place To Talk About Giants Baseball 
You guys would remember when they enclosed Candlestick.
Did it make any difference whatsoever in the conditions there?
How long did it take to do the construction?
I wouldn’t be against bringing Nunie back next season but obviously it would be as a FA.
In my mind, he is the likeliest player in all of baseball to be traded by the deadline…
It was enclosed by the time I started stomping around there. I remember astroturf that was quite ugly. Not sure when they ripped that out.
Was already enclosed by the time I took in my first game at the Stick. I, like Flav, recall the ugly-assed astroturf.
On whether Cain is a serviceable #5, not sure he is. I mean the dude struggles to get through the 5th inning without the wheels coming off…
Cain is a top shelf #5 as far as I’m concerned.
Like clockwork Nunez is having hamstring problems which impacts his trade value.
At what point do the Giants and their fans decide that Austin Slater has solved the LF problem?
I’d like to see if he can solve CF problem and help Giants better defend the OF.
Loo you’re on fire this morning—hope Giants have this much going for them vs. Mets after late/long trip.
Nunez might have to go on DL according to John Shea, with Giants bringing back Gameface. Whole game seems to be about legs so until he’s 100% for a while might not be going anywhere.
Heyman says Cueto definitely opting out/Giants not into offering an extension. How long do they wait/weigh offers? One other scenario would be they hang on to him, he opts out they offer the QO and get some kind of pick in compensation.
Trade Cueto.
No way a compensatory pick would be of much help, this team needs help ASAP…
Agree. They should be able to package a trade to get some immediate help.
I’d miss Cueto who I think has been more unlucky than not good, unlike other Giants this year.
Brisbee brought up a point about how much value potential trade guys would bring back vs. how valuable they are to the Giants themselves.
But not a lot of other guys I’d miss on this team if they were dealt.
Odds are it would be a blessing in the long run if Cueto opts out…
DJ, this pic is from ’71. They had already replaced the grass with green concrete, and were on their way to enclosing the stadium for the Niners later this year. The one thing it did was stop the howling wind off the bay that came straight in from RF toward home plate. Likely cost McCovey 30 HRs.
Amazing picture, Chuck, thanks! I knew you would be the man to answer that for me…
Ahh, beat me too it. 😉
I don’t see how that is baseball season 1971 photo.
I was at the Giants/Pirates playoff game 2 that year, upper deck down left field line. The seats at least is the upper deck were a kind of yellowish color, I believe. Not like in this other photo. I found and then can’t find link to a photo earlier than ’71 showing the different seats. The above photo I’m thinking was in ’72 or so. I don’t think all that additional wall construction existed in ’71…
Used to sit on 1b side a lot during day games, where sun stuck around a little longer and you didn’t have to bundle up as much. But the wind man.
If you parked on the dirt by time game got over it was just howling.
Mighta seen you out there back in the day. Our favorite spot to migrate to was the RF line to dog Jack Clark.
Flav, the Niners ripped out the turf in 78 when OJ came to the Niners. I had completely forgotten that Bill Walsh was OJ’s last coach in the NFL.
Loo, the stadium was enclosed with stands built around the outfield during the winter of 1970–71 when the 49ers moved from Kezar Stadium. It still was frickin’ freezing. Plus you no longer had the clear view of the bay (albeit, that part of the bay was no great shakes). One of the things I recall about the old open configuration, is watching hot dog wrappers, etc., frequently being caught in mini-tornadoes or wind funnels on the field. Great entertainment when the Giants were getting their ass kicked.
My best memory was the Willie Mays catch in center right field, where he basically “stole” the ball from Bobby Bonds as they both leapt and slammed against the chain link fence. The other 60s memory was fan appreciation day (last game of the season) where they gave a car away and other gifts. Our family usually attended that game.
Thanks Blade. That Mays game was actually on TV here…
One of them was knocked unconscious if I remember right.
The brass cannot even dream about thinking this is merely a bad penny year. Although I fear that is what’s going to happen. They can’t hope against hope that Cueto is going to stay. Which leads to the (hopefully) blowing up of this team.
Weeeeell, maybe not blowing up, but a dismantling of the pen and the outfield.
Snarkk, all I know is the Niners played their last season at Kezar in 1970. Which means the earliest the construction could have been started was 71. I was at a bunch of games that year, and game 1 of the playoffs, but for the life of me I don’t quite remember the state of the stadium. I just assumed that’s when it was, because there isn’t all that much done. It could be 72 . . .
It was the winter of 1970 – 1971 that it was fully enclosed.
Blade, no way the fully enclosed was already done before or during the ’71 baseball season, if that is what you mean…
I doubt they “blow up” the team, at least as we might envision it. Two reasons: 1. We’re near the luxury tax threshold; and, 2. Our players aren’t worth jack shit.
Coupled with little or no minor league reinforcements, someone please explain to me how the Giants get competitive by next season?
You start by packaging Cueto and (?) for one of Houston’s young OFers. Then you do what you can to rebuild the bullpen via free agency. That is where I would start. Will it be enough to make the team competitive? Who knows…but to me, those to areas are what need to be addressed. Booby and Crew have their work cut-out for them.
Hey, the Tigers are serious about trading JD Martinez. He’s an FA after this year, so I guess we can wait . . .
We were discussing that trade in the last off-season. I would still love to have Martinez.
According to FB this was 3 years ago . . .
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Haven’t seen Eric on here in ages. Hope he’s well.
I was just thinking the same thing. That was a fun day. Would be fun to coordinate another Flapalooza…perhaps next year…
Fuck that Chi! We’re going to do it this year/season.
Now, it’s my beddie bye time. ‘Nite all . . .
I am down, brother. I just need some heads-up on prospective dates, so that I can ensure to keep the date open.
Any talk yet on “what/where?” San Jose Giants? Sacto River Kitties?? SF Giant (ugh)???
How is it an entire team can’t hit, sans Posey, for an entire season? I offer only that the OF is so bad, it drags down the rest of the hitting. Why, how? I don’t know, but seems plausible…
Panik makes me wonder. I’ve seen him in in a ST game now the past two years. His swing looks so compact, level, controlled, And he makes good contact. I don’t see how he can’t hit at least .300…
Just caught your stadium post . . . They expanded the stadium between 1971 and 1973. This expansion project included enclosing the entire stadium and adding roll-out stands for conversion between baseball and football, replacement of all original wooden seats with new orange plastic seats and the addition of elevators and escalators. Anywho, that’s what I recall.
Yep, the seats were still the wooden ones when I was at that ’71 playoff game. So, Chucks photo with red plastic seats prob is ’72 in middle of the construction period you mention.
Think the whole team looks at Gorkys and secretly think wtf is this guy taking up a roster spot…
Wish Giants management was like Lakob and Dubs. Active, decisive, looking always to get better. No 2nd round pick, so Dubs just go out and buy one, then use to get Bell, the PAC 12 Defensive player of the year…
Yeah, I was impressed with that move, Snarkk. I think it is in response to Iggy thinking of moving on. which I think is foolish on iggy’s part if it comes to pass.
I think Panik is overrated offensively but really solid defensively. They should trade him if they can, imo. This Gomez kid is hitting pretty good at AA, better than Panik did. As a bonus to bringing him up, they could reduce the honky ratio in the clubhouse.
I believe nobody on the team is off limits to trade. Nobody. Still, Panik stopped a long term black hole at the 2d base position. So, his replacement better be at least as good with the glove, and better with the bat…
When Matt Williams was traded, fans were outraged, he was on their list of untradeables. But, it turned out a net plus foe the team. Only Posey and a healthy Bum are in that category now IMO, and I’d trade either or both in a heartbeat for the right package(s) of prospects…
totally agree
I am still pissed at Bum for his bike accident which virtually made him untradeable. This is looking to be an extremely weak trade deadline market for starting pitchers. I would give anything to see some of the offers he could have netted. Though the front office doesn’t have the balls to make that type of move anyway.
If I was Luhnow of the Astros, I would have offered up Marisnick, Fisher, Martes, and Paulino for Bum. That’s Marisnick and three Top 100 prospects (a major league ready OF and two major league ready starting pitchers who have done well in the bigs so far). That’s a net win for both clubs.
I feel like second basemen are a dime a dozen and not that hard to replace.
We brought in “Glass” and Scutaro when needed.
Plus almost every utility guy can play second…
I hear ya, wilco but as you said they would never do it. If Bumgarner rebounds solidly next year, maybe this makes them more likely to consider it. I’m sure they’re breathing a sigh of relief over the extension discussions (for the moment).
Bryan Morris, DFA’d
Scrubini lineup tonight!
Uh, isn’t that the regular lineup?…
Evans now on KNBR — saying nothing…
He’s a real nowhere man
Living in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
There will be an answer,
Let it be…
Unc, re: your 8:29. Once Clark ran off the field into nearby clubhouse door a little too early in a game we yelled at him too.
“2 outs Jack.”
That grab in front of the chainlink fence with Mays and Bonds is a famous play. I’ll try and find it on y.t.
Only messed up thing about them closing RF was denying the crowd a chance to cram in behind RF fence when all that space was there. Mays used to shoot drives that way too, right down the line into corner.
Nunzio to the DL supposed to be ready for road trip in a week.
Meanwhile Mets fav guy Gameface G called up. Hope he does something heroic again, always liked this guy.
couple line drives from Span and Belt, runners advanced nicely by Gillaspie and Panik, bingo on the board.
Pity the fans that bought tickets for this tonight.
I just checked the score after watching Bill Maher, ok then, what’s next on HBO?
How’s the sellout streak?
It exists in a special place in Larry Baer’s mind.
What the game needed was Gearrin to come in and slow the pace down.
I recently started watching “House of Cards.” That show is a trip.
Yup. Great show. We’ve kinda stalled out in season 3 but it is very well written.
Too funny, Willie. We did the same shit to Jack. Occasionally we’d get a laugh out of him.
“How many outs, Jack?”
Just planted my ass at a Saigon 🌟 Starbucks and turned on Gamecast. Pfffttt! Sheesh, out of the game by the 4th inning?
Key the Beatles song Zumiee noted earlier . . . La La La
I have no idea how to order at Starbucks or Subway…
No loss re: Starbucks, IMO…
Next Flap fest, I will teach you how to do it via your smartphone Loo*
* Or are you still using a clam shell dumb phone???
WTF?
Mets get abolsutely demolished at Chavez Latrine, come up to SF and pound this POS Giants team early.
Why let Blach get absolutely punished? Because it was so early? Giants have no long man, and that’s a problem, among the many. Slater is at least a bright spot so far…
By Blach’s next start, Cain and Moore won’t be the lone members of the “5 plus” ERA club. Even Alphabet has a good chance to join them. POS rotation.
Hey, if any team knows how to rally from 7-1, it’s the Giants.
Way to go Gardy, hits game-tying HR in 9th and I can keep watching Yanks-Rangers.
Another innovative Gerardi nickname…
“Gardy goes yardy!”
Sterling is such a self absorbed asshole.
I would know…
Snarkk, I agree about Starbucks, except when traveling (especially Vietnam). Basically, the problem is 3-4 fold . . . Although Vietnam is famous for their coffee, you have to be very circumspect where you drink it because you can’t get regular coffee as you’re used to it in the USA. Instead, you get cà phê sữa đá, which is Vietnamese iced coffee with sweetened condensed milk. This is done by filling up the coffee cup with about 2-3 tablespoons (more if you like your coffee on the sweeter side) of sweetened condensed milk. It’s sickening IMO. Even worse, is Vietnamese coffee with yoghurt or cashews. In Hanoi, they like sinh to ca phe chuoi bo (coffee blended with banana and avocado). In Ho Chi Minh City, they go for sinh to ca phe sapoche (coffee blended with sapodilla, a tropical fruit with a custard-like taste). Yuck!!! Seeing a trend here? In short, Vietnamese love sugar.
Consequently, I go to Starbucks or McDonald’s for my coffee fix.
Also, I avoid all the cheap road side stands or open air coffee shops. Why? A recent expose in the Vietnamese papers indicated that many coffee businesses are using soy as “filler” and worse, some chemicals, to save on the cost of coffee beans.
There’s a Ho Chi Minh City in Brooklyn. It’s better known as 86th Street.
Tony Manero wouldn’t believe his eyes…
Next trip to NY, you’re taking me to Tony’s favorite haunts in Brooklyn.
I’m up for the hardware store…
They’re all gone…
Puig hit his 14th HR.
This Dodger team is kind of fascinating in a horror film kind of way.
Starbucks does sell the NY Times which is a nice thing to do.
In what language?
Brooklynese
It’s kind of a trip hearing East coast people say “pizza pie” and “tuna fish.” In the West it’s just “pizza” and ” tuna.”
No one I know says either, Zum…
I think I’ve heard people in the southeast, good cracker honky folk, say pizza pie.
The only time I’ve heard pizza pie is in That’s Amore.
Is wearing an SF Giants cap now:
1. A defiant sign of solidarity with and long-term fandom for a currently POS team, or
2. A stupid invitation to be shamed in public for flaunting an association with an utterly embarrassing, horseshit situation, or
3. ?…
Habit?
3. A way to conceal my 80’s hair?
Let you freak flag fly…
I’ve never even heard of Seth Lugo before today.
Wow. We got a run in with the bases loaded and 1 out.
Progress.
Hey, Gorkys with 2 RBIs — he’s good to go for another 2 months now.
Only 6 runs to go now !…
Jesus. That was up around the shoulders.
Gorkys with the crush job.
We may not win another game.
In the latest issue of New Yorker magazine there’s an article about a blog called Jeremiah’s Vanishing New York about places that close down, whether it’s an old eatery, or concert venue, or movie theater, or whatever. The guy documents those things. He bears witness.
We’ve all seen a lot of changes in places over the years.
Same thing in SF. Capp’s Corner recently shut down. I think the battle is still going on over Lefty O’Doul’s.
Equally concerned about the gentrification of SF. Not certain this is exactly accurate, but my understanding is that if you’re not making $200k annually, than forget about living in San Francisco.
It’s tough for school teachers in the Bay Area. Often they can’t afford to live in the cities they teach in.
My cousin teaches in San Jose. She has a Master’s degree, with more money and also a shot at being a principal. Very fortunate to have bought an old fixer upper SJ Victorian home 10-12 years ago. Place is worth a small fortune now.
Possibly my favorite album ever.
Paranoid was my wedding song…
Seriously? Hehehe . . . Yeah, Black Sabbath is a guilty pleasure.
That is too funny. Another fun (urk) fact. Giants pitching, 35 hits and 23 runs the last 2 games.
Been meaning to ask this question the last couple of days – Is Slater the real deal? Also, can he field and run? Or is he one dimensional?
His stats, although a small sample size, are outstanding IMO.
His defense has looked OK, especially for a rookie.
His batting form is kind of jittery, but he’s got some pop in his bat.
He’s sealed the job! But the bar was buried underground . . .
Can he run?
Yeah, he’s pretty fast. For a honky.
Lulz
so far he’s at least used all fields and has a couple bombs. Really want to see him play CF (he did some in Sac) when Span, who has BA up to .281, has day off. If he can play there, solves a big problem defensively.
Melancon = sadness.
The ballpark saved him that time. Duda hit a 420 foot double.
Blade, SF is being overrun with young entitled weenies. Add to the fact that Ed Lee is allowing older working class neighborhood businesses to become residential, and thus forcing the businesses out. Old clubs and bars are shutting down at an alarming rate. SF is losing its history. Salesforce is really building hard south of Market and the skyline is rapidly changing as well.
It’s irritating to me. I spent a significant amount of time a couple of years ago scouting real estate web sites for a possible condo to buy in the bay area. Forget about it. To find something equal to my condo in the Denver area, I would have to spend $2 million plus.
I expanded my search (only West coast communities) and finally found something in Brookings Oregon. Sheesh.
49 Ls — the most in MLB!
Silver lining on more epic losses will result in the San Francisco Giants brass having less wriggle room to ignore questions about blowing up this POS team.
However, IMO – they will ignore the critics and only make minor changes (which I have previously noted). Sad.
It’s close to a full season of worst-in-MLB suckage, if the front office doesn’t own up to that we should sue for negligence
Yeah, on McCovey Chronicles, there was a good column, with this comment (paraphrasing), “Giants have invested so much in marketing this team (existing players), that they are hoping the fans buy into their fantasy that this is just a singular bad year and the Giants will bounce back next season.” Hard core fans like Flappers know this is bullshit. However, casual fans are likely to buy it.
Dunno how you can stop gentrification and skyrocketing rents. Unemployment in most of Bay Area is very low and with so many flooding the area with good jobs, traffic is terrible. Rent ain’t going down, housing prices either.
Google about to get huge property in San Jose near Diridon Train Station close to downtown, Apple has been buying up land too for development on North side even though they’re just finishing up huge one in Cupertino off Wolfe Rd.
these guys are rolling right now and ready to ride wave of corporate benefits of any and all tax plans of current admin. If there is a one time tax plan for them to bring back foreign earnings it will be at substantial discount.