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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 23, 2017

So what did everyone think of the Sandoval comments? That was a pretty long interview. When they asked him what he missed the most about SF he immediately smiled and said “fan support.” I believe that if he’s going to re-start his career it will start with that long, lost fan support he has missed for the last 3 years. He’s just one of those guys who needs it.

This is a great pic from last year’s NY Flapalooza. Two have on dark shades but it’s technically outdoors so I can live with it. πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

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  1. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:32 am

    I wish he would’ve said “the restaurants”…

    • pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:20 am

      brilliant!!!!!

  2. sfsarge's avatar sfsarge said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:36 am

    He may not get the support here that he thinks he’s gonna get. He pissed off a lot of fans with his bridge torching when he left. My attitude towards him is largely indifferent. We’ve seen this before, the trimmed down Pablo. Let’s see how long this lasts. If I care about anything, it’s whether or not he can still hit.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 23, 2017 at 7:53 am

      Good post. The Giants are so bad, that I can’t argue with anyone that says this is a minimum risk (salary wise) taking a shot that he can catch lightening in a bottle once more. He probably won’t, but what the hell – give it a shot . . . I think Pablo ranks behind Hamilton as the worst return on a contract insofar as money left on the table. I think the Rangers brought him back after his face plant with the Angels, but they weren’t able to get anything out of him.

  3. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 8:20 am

    Similar to Sarge, I could give a rat’s ass what he says. What matters to me is:

    How he is accepted by his teammates,

    And most importantly, can he hit and field.

  4. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 23, 2017 at 8:47 am

    You know I’m sick&tired of players in all sports who rip their former teams, former players, even fans and then magically are excepted back with their usual BS apology when they say: oh I never meant to say this are that I was just frustrated when I ripped all my teammates a new one,but their get over it and it won’t effect team chemistry one bit..yeah whatever.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:02 am

      Passionate, sincere post AK, Respect it.

  5. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 23, 2017 at 8:53 am

    If he gets 150 AB and goes around 6/25/.280 with adequate defense, he is your 2018 opening day 3B.
    A 30 year old baseball player is considered smack dab in the middle of his prime…

    • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 8:59 am

      Agree, Loo. Last three years have been in decline, so odds are not in his favor.

      Like I have said since this surfaced as a possibility a few days ago, this is low cost/risk for the Giants, and it is not like he is blocking anyone.

      Roll them dice… and hope they don’t come up snake eyes.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:23 am

      It doesn’t even really matter what happens. He won’t save a lost season, but may raise his stock.

      The fans will embrace him unconditionally.

      • pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:27 am

        correct

      • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 11:03 am

        I don’t think anyone believes he’ll be the savior of the season. This is a low cost look/see to see if he’s a piece for the future. Odds are extremely long against him, IMO.

  6. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:13 am

    Speith gurfs one of the worst drives ever. 80 yards right. Yowza.. I missed the first few holes. He dropped 3 strokes?

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:23 am

      He’s basically choking which I didn’t think he’d do. That was one of the wildest drives I’ve ever seen a pro hit, major or otherwise. That’s something I woulda hit back in the day.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:25 am

      Why isn’t Spieth just going back to the tee?

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:32 am

        I’m not going to question Johnny Miller but if you find your ball are you allowed to go back to the tee? It’s not a lost ball, it’s just unplayable. I thought you had to take the unplayable and do that line of sight thing he did that took 20 minutes.

  7. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:26 am

    I’m rooting for him. But’s it’s one of Magnus’s thoroughbred LONG shots. It will be awkward at best, tinged with nostalgia and regret. He’s not going to re-create the past. I’ll root for his renascence. But, as said above, he ate crow only because he had to. The WORST thing of any apology by a public figure, or anyone, is to say you MISCOMMUNICATED. Horseshit. But, good luck, Mr. Sandoval. Does he get #48?

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 23, 2017 at 11:08 am

      Okert was wearing #48, Pawlie, so I guess it’s available since he was sent down yesterday…

  8. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:28 am

    See where Romo went to Tampa Bay? Rooting for him, too … but . . .

  9. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:31 am

    Spieth is easily my favorite golfer. He’s honest with his feelings (his reaction to good and bad shots is refreshing) and he is probably the nicest guy in the world (watching him try to calmly and respectfully direct traffic on that sand dune was hilarious). And, he’s a fucking stud golfer. I really hope he can come back from this (hopefully) bogey
    Spieth actually reminds me a lot of Steph Curry in terms of how he conducts himself, how he presents himself to the public.

  10. theroooster's avatar theroooster said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:35 am

    This struck me as kinda funny:

    “Sergio Romo : Traded to Tampa Bay along with cash for a player to be named later or cash.”

    Dodgers : “Here, please, just take him… c’mon we’ll even throw in $$$ if you take him. Yeah, yeah, you can pay us back later, just take him…”

    • pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:36 am

      true

      • pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:38 am

        rooooster:
        Have you read CHASING WILLIE MAYS? It’s dedicated, in part, to a Dodgers fan. I had the publisher send a copy to Vin Scully.

      • theroooster's avatar theroooster said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:44 am

        Have not read it yet. Going to camp out at Refugio State Beach next week. I’ll get it from my local library to take with me. Thanks, pawlie.

      • pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:57 am

        not likely to be at the library, anywhere, even my local branch, despite my ardent, best efforts… Be a happy camper.

  11. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:37 am

    what a comeback. He gets that impossible bogey and then almost fucking holes out that par 3. INCREDIBLE

  12. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:41 am

    to me it’s more why bother? can he play? well Red Sox didn’t think so based on what they saw in 3yrs, which cannot just be ignored like it didn’t happen.
    Nunez is a passable enough 3b/740 OPS guy and they have Arroyo waiting in wings. since it’s unlikely they move Panik or Craw and Arroyo costs nothing, where would he play? Trading Nunez isn’t going to bring back much either. Is this setting up Arroyo to be part of a deal?

    With so many other things to do, dumping off under performing high salaried players/fixing OF for a start, 3b seems low on the priority list.

    Wonder what’s up with Strick. He has great numbers and appears to be using off speed stuff better. Worth trading or better off as pen mainstay?

    • wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:49 am

      Willie, the Houston paper was mentioning potential relievers the Astros might be targeting. None of the guys mentioned has playoff experience and not one guy in the Astros pen has playoff experience. Strickland checks that box. I think he would be a great addition to Houston.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:58 am

        yeah. I doubt we’d get much but he’d be a great fit in Houston

      • pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:01 am

        Strick’s playoff experience? as in giving up bombs to Bryce Harper that Strickland resents 3 years later??

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:06 am

        he gave up a lot of high profile bombs in the 2014 post season but he also got some very important outs.

  13. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:45 am

    ha, and then 10 minutes after I compare the two check this out:

  14. wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:45 am

    I don’t think I would say Spieth is choking. His driver play has always been his weak point and it’s showing today. Kuchar is on that list of “best player to never win a major” so it will be interesting if he can avoid choking down the stretch, which he has been known to do.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:47 am

      well, his comeback from the fucking practice tee, and then the birdie, was incredible. “Choking” was too strong of a word. But he has played his worst golf of the 4 days today and that’s why I said *choking*. I love Spieth, I’m rooting big time for him.

      • wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:50 am

        Agreed. Me too. I have never cared for “rosey cheeks”Kuchar.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:53 am

        I can’t stand the “Kooch” the crowd shouts after every single fucking shot he takes, regardless of outcome. Plus, he’s only 39 and he looks 49

      • wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:54 am

        Ha! Very true. When he takes his hat off, he looks 59.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:55 am

        i looked up his age about an hour ago. I was like, “I know I’m older than this guy but he looks at least as old or older than me.” Boom, incredibly 39

  15. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:50 am

    Damn. Gutsy bird there.

  16. wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:53 am

    What a fucking putt by Spieth!

  17. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:53 am

    eagle. Incredible. He’s amazing.

  18. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:53 am

    and Kuchar with the sandy birdie. What a finish.

  19. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:56 am

    Holy shit. That’s a putt.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:57 am

      and the “look at it!!” to his caddy after he made it. Awesome.

  20. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 9:56 am

    Tiger had the fist pump and that was pretty much it. You get something honest and new after nearly every single one of Spieth’s shots. He’s fun to watch.

  21. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:02 am

    I’m not against yelling “Kooch!!!” after he does something good. But these mindless idiots say it every fucking time. They are like the Atlanta Braves fans with their tired chop

  22. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:06 am

    Speith’s putter is on fire.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:07 am

      Kuchar can’t hang with this. Spieth is going other-worldly since that crazy ass drive.

  23. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Does it seem like almost every putt by Kuchar is short?

  24. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:09 am

    Birdie eagle birdie. Shit. Speith should leave the driver in the bag.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:13 am

      looking forward to the interview after he wins. It will be significantly better than the one Muscles Koepka gave after he won the Open while his girlfriend was shuffling him off to go fuck her some more back at the hotel.

  25. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:18 am

    I also can’t stand the guys who yell “You da man!!!” after every drive in the States tournies. If I owned the golf course and you yelled that and it turned out to be a bad shot, you would be hastily ushered off my course to the parking lot

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:27 am

      I haven’t heard that much lately, but “Get in the hole” is pretty annoying.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:31 am

        that’s at least attaching itself to some realistic hope. But to declare every golfer *the man* with no care about the outcome of the shot is reckless in my opinion.

  26. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:20 am

    caught some of Lurie yesterday AM before work talking with Baggs. Baggs mentioned Strick and Gearrin too as possible trade chip and danced around the clubhouse issue.
    Supposedly Robertson was the guy Yanks really wanted in ChiSox trade. A lot of contenders would be up for strengthening their pen I’d imagine.
    Is Strick part of solution to pen going forward or part of problem of unreliability?

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:32 am

      Tommy Kahnle, the other reliever Yanks got from the White Sox, has been very impressive the couple times I’ve seen him.

  27. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:25 am

    Too little, too late for Koooch.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:26 am

      it was nice to see him make one and justify the “Kooch” calls that came shortly after.

  28. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:26 am

    This is one of the most incredible final back 9’s of a major I’ve ever seen. Spieth is a one man wrecking crew.

  29. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:35 am

    When he needs it to happen Speith turns into Tiger in his prime and just” field dresses”the whole field..

  30. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 10:53 am

    If Clive Brown had spent as much time on taking care of his teeth as he did on this speech, he might not be stuck with the grill he’s got.

    • alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 23, 2017 at 11:21 am

      Lol…Thinking the same thing BF
      Looking at that gap reminds me of the movie “Speed” when the one cop said “Theirs a gap in the road ahead”

  31. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    man, there are NO solid rumors related to the Giants and the deadline right now. I guess I should stop dreaming.

  32. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    one of the MLBTR stories has the Sherman guy from NYPost proposing Mets trade including them dealing Duda to Yanks. Aren’t Duda and Belt similar quality guys? Belt has bigger contract, Duda would be a rental.
    thought Evans could have made deal with them earlier Belt and a pen guy or two for OF prospects.

  33. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    We got the obligatory Myers HR over with early.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:14 pm

      kinda felt like the ball game there, didn’t it?

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:28 pm

      let’s hope there’s no more from Hector who is even worse hitter except vs. Giants.

  34. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    Belt has literally no chance of hitting the high fastball vs this guy.

  35. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    It’s just flat out embarrassing how bad Belt is at hitting a fastball. If you are a first baseman that should be your bread and butter.

  36. gianthead's avatar gianthead said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    So that wasn’t a joke that we signed Panda????

    I can’t seem to buy that he will be an everyday starter or an impact player…

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:51 pm

      yes, he was at the ballpark yesterday. Headed to Sac, will get 50 or so at bats, see what he’s got left

  37. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    posey picks his buddies up.
    leadoff double nunez and belt strike out. arrggh.

  38. gianthead's avatar gianthead said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    I fell into the trap last year of defending Belt to friends based on his numbers and relative to all other 1b in baseball…then slowly had to acknowledge he can’t hit that fucking high fastball. If there is ever a key at bat and a pitcher is worth his contract and can deliver that high fastball accurately to Belt, he will never be able to hit it…

  39. dirtnrocksnomo's avatar dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 23, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    Belt’s complete inability to hit the fastball combined with his constant “walk seeking” is beyond frustrating.

  40. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    pads taking BP off blach here.

  41. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    You know what an absolute piece of shit season (or game) it is when you choose to paint instead of watching your team get their asses handed to them, again…

    Maybe they’ll pull a rabbit outta their asses again, today. Hey Rock, watch me pull a rabbit outta my ass!

    SMH…

  42. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Gomez looks mildly promising just because he does LOOK like a ball player. He’s a little short (but so is Altuve). I dunno, he’s only 24, whatever, might be worth something. Glad he’s getting to play here and there

  43. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Bochy looks absolutely miserable. And they have no chance of winning this challenge.

  44. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    it’s amazing to me that we are what? 3 years into replay? And the guys we have in charge of calling for replay are still stupidly throwing the challenge flag on shit where there is not clear and convincing evidence to change the original call. It’s like our guys are just guessing.

  45. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    Krukow’s definition of “gamer babes” has gotten……pretty loose.

  46. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    The Giants are facing a young guy they’ve never faced before, so you knew how that was going to go.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:08 pm

      It’s probably the hitting coach’s job to try to help prepare the batters with knowledge of that day’s opposing pitcher. We aren’t awesome at that.

  47. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    Dumb Nunie strikes again. Down 3 runs, that was a reckless and pointless attempt to get to 3rd.

  48. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Something’s up with Kershaw. He left after two innings.

  49. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    you park-blamers need to stop blaming the park

    • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:32 pm

      I have NEVER thought it was the park. It’s that WE SUCK…

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:49 pm

        well then you aren’t a “park blamer”

  50. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    This shit is hard to watch. WTF, will watch the final inning and then go watch my paint dry…

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:35 pm

      I can see today’s game losing out to paint drying.

      • chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:39 pm

        3rd to the 8th innings already did.

  51. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    .

  52. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Jansen blows the save! That’s worth a chuckle.

  53. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    that was not a fun game to watch……
    but hey, Jordan Spieth, huh!

  54. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    The Giants are now 6 games behind the Padres. The Padres have won 9 of 13 from the Giants this season. Clearly they are the better team, with some promising young players. That’s something for the Giants front office to contemplate.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:09 pm

      Sure. Myers, Renfroe, Blash, I would take all 3 of them over any of our hitters except Buster. Hands down. And I’m considering contracts when I say this, and that does matter.

  55. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    I opted to mow the lawn over watching the Giants, so that’s progress.

  56. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    I think Pablo plays for San Jose tonight before going to Sac-town.

  57. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Aurilia on NBCSports Bay Area talking about Nunie being our one good trade piece. Nunie is in a similar boat as Strick. He has some value but if you trade him straight up you aren’t going to get much.

  58. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    this chick might have had a better time today than we did watching this boring ass game

  59. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    Didn’t hear the game at all. They lost again, OK, whatever. Anybody traded yet?
    I spent time cleaning around the house, and looking at German language vids on youtube — going to Europe for Christmas and New Years. Trying to wake up some of my old German from when I was there many years ago.. There is so much stuff on youtube — essentially any topic — people have video on it. The German ear is coming back watching these things, plus there are hot German babes constantly on this one channel I’m watching, uh learning from. There was one chick in Heidelberg, Charlotte, she spoke so fast I couldn’t get much of it yet (there are subtitles), so I’ll have to watch again. And, again. She was freakin’ unglaubliche hubsch. Lecker….

  60. pawliekokonuts's avatar pawliekokonuts said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:33 pm

    I wince. I don’t even wanna know. They could lose every game, I don’t wanna know.

  61. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    anyone know why Dave Flemming wears dark shades indoors during The Wrap? Is he just a Stanford asshole or is there a better reason for this?

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:51 pm

      Since I’m from Cal, I’ll go with some of each..

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:54 pm

        I love me some Cardinal but that place is crawling with assholes.

    • wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:05 pm

      Fleming was wearing shades in the field club tunnel at the game I was at. You can see him in the background of the photo of Murph and my son.

      • sandog's avatar sandog said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:20 pm

        Murph AND Flem in the same photo!!!!???? Arguably my 2 favorite non players in the entire organization.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:21 pm

        There are a lot of things that piss me off in my day to day life as today’s comments about “you da man!” and “Kooch!!!” indicate. Guys that wear sunglasses indoors….I don’t like those guys.

      • sandog's avatar sandog said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm

        I spent a fair amount of time around of Loo last summer day, night, indoors and outdoors and he never had shades off for a second. Let go of the hate Flav!

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:49 pm

        I’ll take this under advisement, weigh the pros and the cons. Guys that wear dark sunglasses indoors have always been a huge deal breaker for me but I have great, immense love for Loo. If sunglasses on indoors is how he rolls, I can accept that. I cannot accept Flemming doing the same on tv. He looked like a classic Stanford asshole and that’s actually who I think he truly is in real life. Sorry.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 23, 2017 at 6:44 pm

        Well, there are reasons…

  62. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    MLB base running is flat-out awful. The A’s had a couple blunders today vs. Mets, Nunez had his usual brain fart, and then there’s the Mariners pinch-runner getting picked off 1st down 2 runs with no out in the 9th vs. Yanks.

  63. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    the Giants got shit for Estes. Desi Relaford and Shingo? What the fuck? I’ve been doing a slow burn about this for years.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      Relaford never played for the Giants. They flipped him to Seattle for David Bell, so it worked out pretty good. I never cared much for Estes, particularly after the infamous base running gaffe in the playoffs…

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:04 pm

        Yeah, that baserunning mistake and Dusty letting Gardner bat in the 5th inning with the bases loaded, 2 outs, down by 2 runs, in the elimination game. Those are the two things I remember most about that playoff series.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:22 pm

        thanks, I didn’t remember that. I did like David Bell a lot. Gamer.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:24 pm

        still, he was a lefty who was still decently in his prime. Leftys get a lot of run, even after they’re done, especially starters. I think they could have gotten a lot more. Turns out he sucked the rest of his career outside of the 15 game season he had in Colorado. But still, trade chips are trade chips, and Bell and Shingo didn’t cut the mustard for me when considering what he should have brought.

  64. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 23, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Giants as a seller are trading from a totally weak position. This team is terrible, boring. Like BF says, weak, slow and the rest. There is no reason anybody can’t be traded, and that includes contracts. If they really wanted to right this ship, they’ll get creative, eat some salary and get some prospects…

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:14 pm

      it’s weird, I’m watching a show right now on NBC Sports BA, they are doing this thing on the ’97 team. I forgot how many of those players I loved and if I could have given Darryl Hamilton one piece of advice it would have been to not marry some dumb ho who tried to light her last husband on fire because she thought he was cheating on her. Sadly, that was advice he was never able to get….
      Anyway, the show brought up the time when Sabean showed up and traded Williams and how controversial that was at the time. There was also the huge trade with the White Sox in ’97. What happened to that bold approach Sabean used to have????
      Also, Kuip’s hr calls used to be much better, he’s really slipped.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm

        Very sad about Hamilton. Same thing happened to Steve McNair and Phil Hartman. And Sam Cooke.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:34 pm

        she shot him inside the front door of their house and then killed herself with their 13 month old still in the house. Back in 2008 she burned down her house and ran around after her husband trying to douse him in gasoline trying to light him on fire as punishment for cheating on her.
        I wonder what that dude is doing today?

  65. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    Can’t stand Belt and his whiffing ways and walking tendencies but his commercials are top notch. He’s a really good sport.

  66. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    Shooter getting out of that jam by striking out Ziele and then getting Murray to hit into that double play, with all that old dirt they used to use flying around the plate at Candlestick, man….what a moment. Dusty’s strength was to believe in his players and you could argue that’s not really a managerial skill. But it worked for that team and I’ll never forget that year. 1997 was a very pivotal point in my life and that season matched it in terms of a year I’ll always remember as long as I live.

  67. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    Reading the Durocher biography….I’d forgotten he was the manager of the ’69 Cubs who choked away a big divisional lead to the “miracle” Mets.
    Most of his Cubs players hated him. He was yelling and belittling players, as the team fell apart at the end of the regular season.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:56 pm

      zum that was a common theme throughout, huh? Even when he won, good times didn’t last long.
      I think that’s a thing about the screamer types–at some point it’s value has gotta wear off.

  68. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    Beck went 3 innings that game. I didn’t remember that. What a game.
    https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN199709180.shtml

  69. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    This *RAW* show they show after the game that’s just the most important pitches of the game? This is just an awful and offensive way to watch a baseball game.

  70. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    Craig I was at that 97 game vs Dodgers. A friend had great tickets. 10 rows up behind 1st base dugout. Flew in for the game. best game i have ever seen. Until WS game 2 in 2010!!

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      That’s awesome! I remember listening to that game on the porch of my house with the chick I was planning on breaking up with shortly. So it wasn’t all awesome for me that day. We had fish in a small pool outside our house. Three fish died that day. I took that as a sign it was time to let Noel go…….

  71. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 23, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    Foe fun i just watched the homer. Tried to see my brother and i in the crowd but couldn’t. shots too quick:) Can’t believe it has been 20 years

  72. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    if you’re just talking about power hitters, this guy is spot on. And Posey is not a power hitter, don’t come at me with that

  73. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 23, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    I saw Baggs had tweeted that Myers vs. 4 other Giants HRs at ATT stat earlier on cbs site and Brisbee forwarded it. Embarrassing to say the least.

    Craw has 2 HRs at home and 1 triple anywhere all year and Kruk lately has mentioned how low his OB is…seriously worried about how bad his contract, next 4 yrs at $15 mil+, could turn out to be.
    How many defense first guys can Giants afford to pay that kind of money to? Just don’t see any reason he should be untouchable.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 6:09 pm

      they have a bunch of mostly untradeable guys because of their contracts and the fact they just aren’t worth those contracts. Belt and Crawford are both in that boat.

  74. wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on July 23, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    1997 was the year I moved to Austin from the Bay Area. It was a turning point in my life. I remember watching ESPN and seeing the highlights of that Brian Johnson game and going ballistic because I wasn’t there. That was the first and probably last time that I truely regretted leaving California. I turned 21 the following week, set out on my own and the rest was history.

  75. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 23, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Jena Sims responded to my tweet today. I win.


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