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Fun With Numbers

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 11, 2017

Last night on Facebook, MacDog humorously noted that the Yankees and their 16 runs would have handily beat the NY Giants and their 3 points. I added in the SF Giants (1) and the SF 49ers (3) and the Yankees still killed all three teams. We’d have to insert the Cardinal’s 24 points to finally beat them. Sadly, if you added the 42 USC scored to the Yankees 16….

It was a horrible weekend for Bay Area sports, something we are well conditioned to tolerate lately. Madison Bumgarner is due 12 million in 2018 and 2019. Anyone still feel like tearing up that deal and giving him 300 million? God, if we do that this team will be screwed for the next 10 years……

There are 17 games remaining. We have 89 losses. You do the math and the death march to 100 starts tonight.

I have spoken with Chris Castellani via twitter and here is his response:

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  1. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:49 am

    Look at it this way: if the Giants at 6-7 had played everybody else the way they’ve played the 92-51 Dodgers, they’d be the 8th best team in NL. Miami is 7 games under .500, Pirates 10 under, Pads and Braves 14 under yada yada.

    Kinda funny the way LA has been knocked around lately by other teams in the NL West, because usually kicking butt on Division foes has been big part of their MO for success

  2. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:52 am

    Anyone else around here (SF bay area) feel the windstorm this morning? I had windows open because of heat and woke up 2:45 AM and wind was howling for another hour. Read this morning about power outages locally.
    Supposed to have something to do with some storm off San Diego coast. wtf?

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:20 am

    WAB down to 13-20, .394. Jones in the 9 hole 0-3 with 2 Ks, batting .185 with .570 OPS. Kid has a nice backstory of following his college baseball coaching Dad around, but wow this sure ain’t AAA.

    As Dylan said in Ballad of a Thin Man

    you know something is happening
    but you don’t know what it is
    do you Mr. Jones

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:42 am

      it’s still higher than when he was playing. That’s the other number to watch for the next 17 games.

  4. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:54 am

    Abreu shows what happens if Giants got Stanton. It won’t happen, but still. Abreu is a stud, but look where his team is. The team stinks. One guy, no matter how good, isn’t going to bring competency and competitiveness. No matter how good.
    Ditto on Bum, BTW. No way you give this guy a massive, 6 year deal…

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:07 am

      Yeah, the White Sox had Sale and Abreu from 2014-16 and couldn’t even play .500 in each of those three seasons.

  5. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:00 am

    Willedav re your 7:49: I saw somewhere yesterday that the Giants did not win a season series against 8 of the bottom 9 teams (the Giants, of course, being the other one) in all of MLB. The breakdown:

    Phillies 3-4
    White Sox 1-2
    Tigers 1-2
    Reds 3-4
    A’s 2-2
    Mets 1-5
    Padres 5-11
    Braves 3-4

    Total: 19-34

  6. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Me and Ryder Jones
    We got a slump goin’ on
    We both know that it’s wrong
    But it’s much too strong
    To let it go now…

  7. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:10 am

    I think Bum’s got some good years left, but he’ll have to re-prove himself since the accident.
    Guess the Giants played it smart financially…

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:42 am

      they’re gonna fuck it up by giving him a massive extension some time next year. Book it.

  8. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:52 am

    I actually completely agree with James re: bum. His postseason success has skewed the reality of how good a pitcher he actually is. He’s very good, hardly a 300 mil contract guy tho

  9. James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Stat looking for an acronym: Giants 2017 winning percentage in games Posey appears in: .360

  10. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:58 am

    The Giants starters actually pitched pretty well against the Dodgers last time. But of course the Giants bullpen did its usual thing, as the Dodgers swept the series.
    It would be nice to win at least one of the games in this series. Maybe the offense can somehow go off in one of the games.

  11. wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on September 11, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    I never thought I would see Dollar dog night at AT&T. According to twitter, is has come to that.

    • wilcojoe's avatar wilcojoe said, on September 11, 2017 at 12:45 pm

      And against the Dodgers no less. Wow!

  12. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    I give all the Giants broadcasters credit for trying to keep their energy up, as if these remaining games mean anything. A broadcaster has to really earn their money in a 10-1 loss.

  13. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    look, the Dodgers have lost what? 14 of 15? Something like that. They stink right now. The question is how bad do they stink. If it’s as bad as us maybe we can make a game of it. I’m assuming they haven’t gotten this bad tho.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 3:56 pm

      The Giants have to jump on the Dodgers’ starting pitchers. Once it gets to the Dodgers’ bullpen, it’s a bunch of guys throwing 95-100 gas, and the Giants aren’t likely to do much with that. But all these junk-balling starters that the Dodgers have, the Giants could potentially do something with that. Although I see that the Dodgers have Kershaw pitching in the series now, and originally he wasn’t. Roberts really wants these games vs. the Giants. The Dodgers have the Nats coming up next, and he’s not as confident about those games, even with Harper still out, although Roberts would never admit it.

  14. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    The problem the Dodgers have with their starting pitchers after Kershaw is that they’re all a bunch of nibblers. They get a lot of 3-2 counts and high pitch counts, and they’re often getting near 100 pitches by the 5th inning or so. Their bullpen is very good, but it could potentially be tiring, even with the September call-ups. Baez in particular seems kind of flat.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 4:02 pm

      Arizona and Colorado really tore into the Dodgers’ starting pitchers, but I don’t know if our Punch and Judy hitters can rise to the occasion.

  15. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    If the Giants are going to keep trotting out MadBum, why didn’t they make sure he was pitching in the Dodgers series? Maybe it wouldn’t matter the way he pitched yesterday, but I have to believe he would have been a little more amped up to face the Dodgers than the White Sox. Plus it gets a good-hitting pitcher into this sad-sack lineup.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 4:51 pm

      that is a fantastic point

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      And especially since Roberts rearranged his pitching rotation to get Kershaw into the series.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 5:11 pm

      and stretched him….again.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 5:35 pm

        I thought after “and stretched him” he yells “OH GOOD!!!”

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 5:48 pm

        sounds like *again* to me and while I’ve listened to it 40 times I’m willing to listen to it another 40 to see if it’s what you say.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 6:16 pm

        I might be over 100. Watch his lips when he says it…

  16. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    Watching Yanks-Rays at Citi Field, reminds me of ’74-’75 seasons when Yanks played at Shea while Yankee Stadium was being renovated. I think it was in ’75, I saw the Yanks and Angels play a doubleheader at Shea, Frank Tanana and Nolan Ryan pitched for the Halos. The Yanks got swept.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 6:20 pm

      That situation played a big part in Murcer getting dealt to SF…

      • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 6:44 pm

        I see his HRs plummeted in his one season at Shea.

  17. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    I still think he’s saying *again* not *oh good*. Maybe Diggity can weigh in on this or some other vet. You qualify as a vet if you’ve watched this video 30 plus times.

  18. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    I forgot the *he stretch him…* was the line San Diggity was questioning last week. He is busy but will weigh in when he gets home

  19. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    Bochy said this today:
    “we need to get this offense going. We’re stagnant right now, the last couple of games.”

    Last couple of games?

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:15 pm

      slapping asses and chewing seeds… that’s really all he’s concentrating on, I really believe that.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      Boch is master of the understatement.
      BTW, what “offense” is he talking about?…

  20. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:14 pm

  21. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    Oh good, the “Happy Hour” show, said no one ever.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:29 pm

      Does anybody watch that show?

  22. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    Cleveland: 19 straight. That’s pretty good.

  23. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:49 pm

  24. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    This is the Yankees version of Amy G.(Meredith Marokovits):

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 7:58 pm

      she looks like she could carry a rack of bats on each shoulder.

  25. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    Even our grounds crew sucks…

  26. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    Diggity thinks he’s saying “oh dude”. I’d rank that last after *again* and “oh good.” I am trying to find this kid’s twitter handle to ask him directly but so far I’m striking out.

  27. Pasalon's avatar Pasalon said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    They should postpone this game. It’s already 8. Nobody wants to sit through this.

  28. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    I found him. This is the dude.
    https://twitter.com/castellani2014?lang=en

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:05 pm

      Can you communicate with him?
      I would like him to know he is basically my whole world…

    • James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:09 pm

      In case he doesn’t remember:

  29. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:04 pm

  30. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    lol, he’s got a bunch of good videos. This is gonna take some time to work through

  31. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    at the end of this he addresses the Fulmer thing.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:21 pm

      We need him here. I wish I could adopt him…

  32. Pasalon's avatar Pasalon said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    A little more hustle from that grounds crew would be nice.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:10 pm

      More slow honkies…

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:11 pm

        lulz!

  33. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:12 pm

      Great times!

  34. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    I have spoken with the tiger fan (via twitter) and will be posting his reply in the main thread shortly….

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:15 pm

      This is the most exciting news of the season!

  35. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    Loo, stick around, he says he’s going to post a comment here in the next 30 minutes.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      I ain’t goin’ nowhere…

  36. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    The lightning storm has hit the Central Valley.

  37. Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014)'s avatar Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014) said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    Hi everyone! I wanted to let you all know that I was extremely humbled when I discovered that you were fans of my videos. It’s been an unbelievable journey these last couple months and it wouldn’t have happened without people like you. I guess if you have questions I’d be happy to answer them lol.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:29 pm

      you’re the king. I try to work “side office” into a conversation every day. It’s tough but I’ve been pulling it off most days

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:37 pm

      I don’t leave the house without watching you first.
      HOW THE FUCK do you transition from tantrum to calmness so seamlessly?

      • Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014)'s avatar Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014) said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:15 pm

        Great question. I’ve answered it before but I love repeating it because I think it’s important. Those videos are my window. That’s where I get the rage out. After that, I’m playing video games or grabbing a beer. I’ve only gone to bed angry after a Tigers game once in my life. And no, it was not against you guys.

  38. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    Here’s a question for you: As Giants fans, even with 3 in the bank since 2010, most of us are ready for Bochy to hit the bricks. Your Asmus rant is one of the all time greatest things I’ve ever seen on the internet. Question: Are other Tiger fans as passionately against this dude as you are? Who would you like to see manage the team?

    • Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014)'s avatar Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014) said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      I’d say there’s 50% of the population that thinks he’s as much of a putz as I do. 30% don’t hate him but they still want him gone, and 20% still defend him.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:38 pm

        you cannot defend that crap. I learned that somewhere.

  39. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    After you answer Loo’s 8:37pm, I have another question: you’ve obviously gotten a lot of attention from this. What % of the response has been positive vs the negative idiots who don’t get the genius of that video?

    • Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014)'s avatar Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014) said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm

      I’d say 90% positive. Never in my life have I felt such overwhelming love and support.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:35 pm

        What other teams do you root for, Chris – and do they get you as riled as the Tigers?

      • Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014)'s avatar Chris Castellani (@Castellani2014) said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:39 pm

        I’m a big University of Michigan fan. Love football and basketball. I root for the Detroit Lions and Pistons as well. Michigan football and basketball get me very riled up, but not the way the Tigers do.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:59 pm

        Well keep up the fantastic work. Hope you’ll post here in the future.
        We could use the spark…

  40. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    Speaking of Shea Stadium….

    • James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:56 pm

      Paul already separating himself . . . .

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:09 pm

        Paul’s thinking: “I wrote Yesterday. I don’t need these jokers.”
        🙂

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:11 pm

        Man, that’s a seriously beautiful Rickenbacker John’s carrying.

      • James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:21 pm

        A guitar of its time.

  41. James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    Brad Ausmus had an 18-year career with a 75 OPS+. The guy is a survivor. Pitching aces come and go.

  42. James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Anticipation for that first pitch is really building . . . .

    • James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:01 pm

      Oh, yeah, it already happened.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:13 pm

        Granderson batting leadoff? Roberts was stretching on that one.

  43. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    cbs site had a column where they combined LA stats during the slump.
    The O hit .200 with 9 HRs in 14 games
    SPs had an ERA over 6 and went 5.2 innings a game. Pen, having to work 4 innings every game, was at 3.91. Jansen 3 shutout innings only guy who held up his own.

  44. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Zum, Granderson frequently hit leadoff with the Mets, including their 3-game sweep at SF where he went 5-for-12.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:34 pm

      Ownage!

      • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:42 pm

        Except for those few games, that doesn’t mean Collins knew what he was doing, either. 🙂

  45. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Things are floundering at the moment on the Dodgers Digest blog:

    williams517
    My ass burns from shitting all day today.

    DodgerNoLongerLivingInWeHo
    Why did you tell us this?

    williams517
    Why not?

    • James's avatar James said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:44 pm

      Williams517 appears to occupy a sensibility somewhere between the Rooster and the Hanger or the Chicken Hawk or whatever their Splash handles were.

  46. theroooster's avatar theroooster said, on September 11, 2017 at 9:36 pm

  47. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    D-Backs lost; Dodgers trimmed a game off their magic number.

  48. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    Game to resume at 10:50. Insanity.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on September 11, 2017 at 10:51 pm

      The effing seagulls will give up by midnight.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:06 pm

        They’ll be sitting in the club seats by midnight…

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:22 pm

        no, there won’t be anything for them there

  49. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    This is sos for the east coasters . . .

  50. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    Hey, good start!

  51. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    Any friggin’ Giants fan left in the stands at the end of this game, will deserve something of value.
    An award; free beer; and / or immediate institutionalization…

  52. xoot's avatar xoot said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:21 pm

    first two innings look good. Maeda’s got a 92-93 mph fastball he’s hitting the corners with–wtf is he throwing that other shit within swinging distance? well, wtf. blow up dodgers, blow up

  53. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    Homeplate ump isn’t awesome.

  54. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    Dodgers doinked some cheap hits off Blach.

  55. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    It was the wrong ump for Blach. Wasn’t giving the low strike.

  56. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 11, 2017 at 11:59 pm

    Nightmare inning is finally over.

  57. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 12, 2017 at 12:11 am

    Sandoval, the out-machine.

  58. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 12, 2017 at 12:16 am

    I’m out. Damn, couldn’t hold a 4-0 lead.

  59. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 12, 2017 at 12:20 am

    Our sucky bullpen doing its thing.

  60. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 12, 2017 at 12:42 am

    Giants’ offense is battling.

  61. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 12, 2017 at 1:55 am

    Best inning I’ve seen from Strickland, maybe ever. No kidding. He went through Seager, Turner, and Bellinger.

  62. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 12, 2017 at 2:12 am

    Giants win!!!!!!!!!!


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