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And DJ, I feel your pain as a long-time Chiefs fan. Stupid fuckers couldn’t close a game handed to them. Granted Jeff Triplette is one of the worst officials in the NFL who missed a clear fumble on the sack to Mariota that gave Tenn 3 late in the 1st half, but to go scoreless in the 2nd half and giving up on the run after it worked in the 1st quarter was awful on Reid’s part. Reid ain;’t no Hank Stram. Dumb dumb dumb.
Thanks, Chuck. I’m so used to it by now that it wears off pretty quick. The refs were awful, the defense couldn’t get off the field, but Reid is reason # 1 again. He’s gotta go.
The thing I can’t seem to get a straight answer on is whether or not the hit on Kelce was legal or not. I thought all helmet to helmet hits were outlawed. Some people are saying that because Kelce was running and therefore not “defenseless” the hit was ok. I don’t buy that…
Yeah, I know. That should be an instant ejection if they want to really clean up the game. Beyond that, the play was a fumble by Kelce. I’m 100% sure the refs overlooked it because he was knocked cold.
The Dodgers quietly traded for a promising relief pitcher from the Royals. He won’t be as good as Morrow was for them last season, though. Morrow was lights out for them, until he ran out of gas in the World Series.
Morrow, of course, is the new Cubs closer.
The guy from the Royals is Scott Alexander, and will be given a chance to be the Dodgers’ 8th inning guy.
From the previous thread, Xoot’s post.
Verducci’s repeating the verdict that came in long ago.
https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/14/16044264/2017-mlb-home-run-spike-juiced-ball-testing-reveal-155cd21108bc
Funny, the HR jump coincided exactly (2016 All Star break) as the point when the Giants went downhill.
that’s true, and worth some stat-head examining, but the Romo, Lopez, Casilla collective failure toward the end of that season had less to do with juiced baseballs and more to do with arms gone bad. Nonetheless, is it possible the Giants had no clue the juice was in while most everyone else figure it out?
I think some other teams were already leaning towards HRs and launch-angle because of sabermetric reasons, and then the juiced ball fell right in their laps. The Dodgers realized they could just let Pederson and Grandal keep their big uppercut/high strike-out swings and that would be fine. They also encouraged other players to go more uppercut.
Grandal hit 12 HRs in the first half of 2016 and 15 in the second half, after the original juiced ball was introduced. The ball, imo, got juiced even more before the start of last season.
so–my question remains: Who knew?
None of the teams knew initially, but which teams figured it out first? That would be interesting to know.
The Giants were a worst-case scenario: a high payroll team built for an instantly out-moded form of baseball.
I’m not convinced that’s the right answer to my question.
Jake Fromm sure doesn’t play like a true freshman.Has the tide on their heels.Remember seeing him early in the season a few times,thinking he’s pretty polished for a freshman in a big program..
Deja vu for football fans in Georgia. Super Bowl flashback.
Any significant SF Giants blame or excuses directed toward the juiced ball is wrong in my opinion. Frankly, our players collectively stink. The roster is old, slow, without power, and has been putrid for a season and a half. There’s almost zero reason to hope for any of our players having “comeback” seasons. Cueto might be the exception.
Maybe we finish ahead of the Padres. Our roster, coupled with a brain dead front office, gives me little confidence beyond that goal.
I decided I’m going all radio in 2018.
I’m gonna cut the cable when my Rangers get bounced.
Never want to see a football game again…
I guess Giants-Chiefs in 2025 is out?
It’s not impossible, Mac.
I’ve been known to flip-flop…
Mac, did you happen to read my 5:27 PM question and do you know the answer?
I think you kind of answered it, he was a runner and is somehow not “defenseless.” There are always head-to-head collisions that aren’t deliberate, although the Kelce one sure didn’t seem like one of them.
Lots of dumb penalties in the game.
Refs call that facemask but somehow missed the one on ‘Bama early 3rd quarter that may be the turning point.
That would’ve been a very entertaining game if it’d ended there, in reg time. Now wtf cares?
If Bama loses, that poor kicker will need a security escort on his way back to Tuscaloosa.
Kurt Rambis nails the potential winner for the Dawgs!
In the words of the late Dick Enberg, “Oh My!”
How the hell does Georgia D allow that to happen?
Awesome pass coverage by Georgia.
That was a ballsy call by Sabean going to the untested True Freshman in the second half and did it ever pay off. That kid looked like an upperclass Deshaun Watson instead of the freshman that he is. Unreal!
Ha! My autocorrect went with Sabean instead of Saban.
Won the game with that move WJ.
They lose for sure if Saban stuck with Hurts
Kid reminded of Sunshine in “Remember the Titans” pulling out wins..
Great finish. thought Bama was done after the dumb sack the frosh QB took, then he fires game winner from 41 yds. out.
Good to see local kid Najee Harris did some good things. Chron followed him pretty heavy during last HS season at Antioch, his decision on where to go yada yada. I really hope he sticks it out for 4 yrs and graduates.
typical hard times story, kid from hood with single mom. NFL running back is not a long career so I would hope he has something to fall back on.
wonder if that is some kind of college record for longest yds on TD pass in OT. ?
It probably is. Mainly because they start from the 25. That was probably the longest sack in OT history.
The Dawgs just can’t let that play happen. They were pretty much out of FG range at that point. Their kicker had missed a 47 yard FG and he would have lined up for a 58 yarder in that spot.
yeah. second down and 26, keep everything in front of you and tackle them after the catch.
Wilco 9:09 Rambis FG kicker for Georgia was funny.
Fun fact—Rambis, pretty free spirit with Lakers, went to Cupertino HS where I coached about 15 yrs later and was same type of player then as with LA—fierce inside, great hustle no outside shot. Think he once got like 60 in section playoff game.
I’ve never liked the Lakers, but I did like Rambis’s game. He played like the guy on the Dubs. Larry Johnson? Larry Jackson? The hard hat guy?
Larry Smith . . .
They could of added Rambis as a 4th Hanson brother in “Slapshot”
Larry Smith one of my all time favorite Warrior.
Yeah had his own cult followers up in the cheap seats with their hard hats on and I believe some wore tool belts too..Classic
Also his nickname was Mr.Mean he was a savage on the boards! Another Warrior like that was Clyde Lee,this guys were both junkyard dogs who I truly respected..
Yup. Anotehr grinder like that was (sp) Sarunas Marcelonus.
Loved Mr. Mean, pride of Alcorn St. same as Steve Air Mc Nair.
warriors used to run first play of game for him. He’d be on one block, then get a cross screen for a post up…which he often missed (tho he hit over 50% of his shots often) and then he’d pick the rebounding foul
Dick Callahan—“Loose ball foul on the Warriors number 13…”
How can there be no free agent movement of any sort???? Smells like collusion…
Loved Larry Smith…mybm 3 fav warriors pre-Run TMC….
1) Bernard King
2) World B. Free
3) Larry Smith….
Purvis Short close..
Naw. Antitrust lawyers would call this conscious parallelism.
Yeah, because of sabermetrics, the GMs all have similar evaluations of the players which means bad news for free agents wanting to score a huge contract.
xoot, I absolutely love your lawyerly euphemism!
Sounds straight from DC…
Looks like the Astros may be getting Gerrit Cole in a trade. Nice addition.
I’ve said all along the Astros are going to be contenders for a good long while, a duration not precisely quantified by any sabrmetric. I spelled it that way because of its origin, the Society for American Baseball Research. Back in 1987, my former boss, Gerald Tomlinson, who was an executive editor at a textbook company, Silver Burdett, in Morristown, NJ, came out with The Baseball Research Handbook for SABR.
https://sabr.org/how-to
It is a gem. It’s the Strunk & White of baseball research. Now, if I can only locate it….
Back in the ’80s I read some of Bill James’ early publications, but kind of drifted away from them, at the same time his movement was growing.
He did a remarkable thing. He created a truly grassroots fan-based revolution. Now the industry has fully absorbed his revolution, and he’s on the Red Sox payroll.
When he started his Baseball Abstract he was a security guard at a warehouse.
Better Stros than Yanks…
It’s concerning that the team with the worst outfielders (spoiler alert: the Giants) has not improved that worst outfield group yet.
It is nauseating Zum…
They did get rid of Span.
Happy Birthday Willie “Stretch”McCovey!!
80 years old and still the MAN!!’
All time favorite Giant!!
No disrespect for Willie Mays but he is a original Giant coming up thru the SF farm system..
They had a nice article asbout Willie Mac in the Chron recently. His knees are shot, and he’s gone through a ton of bad shit, but he looks great.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/giants/shea/article/Giants-legend-Willie-McCovey-at-80-Every-day-12478995.php
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