Baseball, Ankle, Madness

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 9, 2018

Great on the field report from Snarkk last night. Had me jones’n for some real baseball….

Huge sirens going off in Dubs Town. Curry hurting his ankle again on a play where his ankle didn’t bend is a reminder of how tenuous our yearly trip to the finals is.

I’m ready for some March Madness seedings, when does that happen? This Sunday. I’m ready for some bubble teams and some madness…..

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willedav said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:18 am

Great stuff from Snarkk live in ST.
Loved George Foster. He used to rake at the Stick too when he came back in with the Reds.
J Sands was longtime up and down Dodger prospect.
Agree with Zum, Dodgers overhype their guys. Albuquerque extreme hitters yard iirc, so AAA stats get inflated.

Cards gave UCLA all they could handle. Haase has them competing, he’s a very upbeat motivational guy. Other team is better? so what get in their grille. He has 3 good freshmen and point is tough, just needs to be smarter with ball and stay out of foul trouble because there isn’t anything behind him.
Cards also graduate only decent outside shooter they have and lose the C, so they need more depth and Pac 12 quality athletes. Travis has another year left and as long as he stays they are on right track. Definitely need more shooters tho to loosen up D on inside guys. Still, lot of progress this season.
snarkk said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:58 am

For Sandog, I was talking with Foster at a table in the interior breezeway of the stadium near its equivalent of a dugout souvi shop. At giants games here, the Giants have a table set up with two or more former Giants and other players who sign bats and balls for cash. Last night it was George, Vida, Willie Wilson and Gaylord. The other three were busy so I rolled right up to George and chatted him up. The unexpected fist bump was cool. I didn’t have much interest in the other guys. Especially Gaylord. He’s looking a bit frail, btw…
- sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 8:24 am
  
  Thanks Snarkk. That sounds like a cool set-up and I’m glad to hear they aren’t working the ex-Giant angle with Foster.
  Growing up, I had a friend whose dad really followed MLB closely and had some great insights on the game. He used to say that Foster and Jim Rice were two guys who swung just hard enough to put the ball over the fence and weren’t looking to hit the 500 foot homer. He claimed that made them much better hitters overall.
Flavor said, on March 9, 2018 at 8:01 am

i was pretty young when Foster did his damage with the Reds. I always thought he looked like a complete badass.
- willedav said, on March 9, 2018 at 8:19 am
  
  yeah, all business at the plate, generated lot of power and line drives out of that body. Nice link from blade too NY Times article.
- snarkk said, on March 9, 2018 at 11:54 am
  
  He’s pushing 70. He still looks like a badass, I wouldn’t take him on with two other guys unless they were linebackers, and I’d let them go first…
Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 9:51 am

Foster was the only player in the 70s to hit 50 HRs in one season, and it wasn’t done again until Cecil Fielder in ’90, so, yeah, he sure could rake. Man, what a lineup that Reds team had. It’s hard to imagine how the Giants could let someone like that get away. The only explanation I can come up with is they also Maddox and Matthews soon to join Bonds in the OF so someone had to go.

I also remember Foster being somewhat of a bust with the Mets after signing a big contract with them in the 80s. Although he had a couple of pretty good seasons, the Mets let him go during ’86 when they won the Series. I wonder if he got a ring.
- blade3colorado said, on March 9, 2018 at 9:59 am
  
  Exactly Mac . . . He was a bust with the Mets. I think he hit 28 HRs in his 2nd year there. Coupled with that, he apparently was a “cancer” in the locker room. He’s even rumored to have used the “race card” when his playing time diminished.
  
  https://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/08/this-date-in-mets-history-mets-release-george-foster.html/
alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 10:42 am

Getting rid of Foster was just the tip of all the dumbshit trades they made back then.
They had the fastest OF I ever witnessed bar none when they had Gary Matthers LF,Gary Maddox CF, and Bobby Bonds in RF. Nothing got to the gaps with those dudes.So what do they do? Trade Maddox(8 GG later) for freakin 1 year of 1B Willie Montanez??
Did the same with Jack Clark for David Loser Green another 1 year bust!!
- sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 10:59 am
  
  I loved me some Willie Montanez……he actually played pretty well for the Giants in his short stay.
  But yeah……trading Maddox was dumb. Montanez then traded for Darrel Evans.
alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 10:51 am

Here’s a Trivia question..
Giant players won 5 straight ROY awards who can name them all?
- zumiee said, on March 9, 2018 at 11:47 am
  
  Monte Irvin and Willie Mays are two of the five? Do I have the right era?
alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 12:16 pm

No not Mays&Irvin..
This is 5 straight consecutive years a Giants player won..
From the Sporting News..
sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 12:29 pm

Then it has be Cepeda, Marichal, McCovey and……….maybe Felipe Alou and Jim Davenport?
- unca_chuck said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:13 pm
  
  Mike McCormick? Didn’t Maddox and matthews go back to back?
  - alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    
    No Dawg.
dirtnrocksnomo said, on March 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm

Samardzija rounding into form having given up 3 bombs through 3.2 IP.
- blade3colorado said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:25 pm
  
  lulz
unca_chuck said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:11 pm

Foster getting traded was the result of the team going downhill fast with the Stonehams running the team.
Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:47 pm

Pence now at .067 across the board.
Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:51 pm

I’m going Maddox, Matthews, Montefusco for at least 3 . . .
- alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 1:57 pm
  
  2 out of 3 Dog no Maddox,( who should of got one as well)but your the new flap leader..
sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 2:09 pm

This is a weird and wacky trivia question and I absolutely love it.

Is Marc Hill one of the 5 by and chance?
sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 2:11 pm

How about Willie’s boy, San Diego St Augustine High graduate, and convicted felon John D’cAquisto????
- alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 2:19 pm
  
  Woof Woof the Dog up’s his game with D’Aguilty , that’s 3
Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 3:02 pm

Did Jack Clark win ROY?
- alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 4:14 pm
  
  No
sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 3:37 pm

Gary Thomasson and Larry Herndon FOR THE WIN!
- zumiee said, on March 9, 2018 at 3:43 pm
  
  Man, if guys like these two were winning the ROY, there must have been some slim competition.
alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 4:05 pm

Got that right Zumie!
Dog’s up to 4 not Thomason!
The last dude is pretty obscure good luck this text will self destruct in 10 sec..
- zumiee said, on March 9, 2018 at 4:19 pm
  
  Something about this question was throwing me off. I had forgotten that each league used to give 2 ROYs each season. One for pitchers, and one for position players.
djloo27 said, on March 9, 2018 at 4:47 pm

The question is wrong. It was 5 straight Dodgers…
- James said, on March 9, 2018 at 4:54 pm
  
  I think the question is “Which 5 SF Giants players won either the Sporting News RoY (pitcher) or RoY (position player) over a run of 5 consecutive years?”
sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 4:59 pm

Yeah, its The Sporting News twist that makes the question valid. I think they name multiple guys per year.
James said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:00 pm

Bob Knepper in there for ’77?
James said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:03 pm

Ed Goodson?
- sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:14 pm
  
  Ed Goodson in exile?
alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:14 pm

No on Goodson &Knepper!
James is right as far as the award from sporting news back in the day ( position Pitchers & position players) different polls from different writers votes whatever.. 1 to go boys!
I will give the years of the in order per request..
Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:21 pm

The Sporting News award? Damn, I paid little attention to that, haha.
James said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:29 pm

The final one is likely either 72 or 77 based on the 4 correct answers.
Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:35 pm

Dave Rader?
- James said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:36 pm
  
  That would be criminal, considering who caught for them in 71.
  - Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm
    
    We are looking for “pretty obscure” here.
- alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:53 pm
  
  Winner Winner Chicken Dinner 🥘Dog!
  Here’s the breakdown in years..
  Dave Radar C 1972
  Gary”Sarge” Matthews LF 1973
  John “The Count” Montafusco”pitcher1974
  John DeAquito ( sp ?)pitcher 1975
  Larry Herndon OF 1976
  So fuck the Dodgers and any other team that can claim that!!
  - sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:56 pm
    
    Nice one Kat!
sandog said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:56 pm

Huge game for SDSU against Reno in in a few minutes. Should be entertaining and if my Aztecs pull this off, aint no one gonna stop them in the league tourney finals and they’re going to the Big Dance.
Reno is tough though.
- willedav said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:04 pm
  
  Beating hated (by all Jose St alums) Bulldogs of Fresno was a great W and Boise out the way too.
  Blowing out Reno at half. Love J McD!
- Macdog said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:19 pm
  
  I like their chances so far.
djloo27 said, on March 9, 2018 at 5:56 pm

Jim Barr?
James said, on March 9, 2018 at 6:05 pm

Dave Radar . . . makes you appreciate how excellent Posey is. And what happened to Dietz has been a topic on the Flap before.
- djloo27 said, on March 9, 2018 at 6:14 pm
  
  Catcher and SS were historically weak positions for the Giants with the occasional exception.
  And outfield was the strength…
unca_chuck said, on March 9, 2018 at 6:37 pm

What did happen to Deitz? 1970 was my first season of really paying attention and Deitz Speier Fuentes and of course mays and mccovey were my guys.
- zumiee said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:35 pm
  
  If I remember correctly, he was the team player representative during heated union/owner stuff happening prior to the beginning of free agency. He was jettisoned.
- xoot said, on March 9, 2018 at 8:06 pm
  
  “On the heels of a respectable 1971 season, Dietz was surprisingly sold on waivers to the rival Dodgers during the spring of 1972. The reason? As the Giants’ player representative during the strike of ’72, Dietz had drawn the wrath of San Francisco management. The Giants decided to punish Dietz by selling him to another team, . . .”
  
  https://www.fangraphs.com/tht/the-blackballing-of-dick-dietz/
alleykat69 said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:30 pm

The 1st truly moment of my hatred of the Dodgers was back in 1968. Dodger stadium the Giants had the bases loaded top of the 9th against Don Drysdale who was working on a record for consecutive shutout innings.Drysdale hits Dick Dietz with a pitch, the fucking ump said Dietz never attempted to get out the way, leaned into the plate was his pathetic excuse.After a near riot on the field by the Giants dugout to no avail, the Giants never scored,the shutout streak continued and I’ve hated the Dodgers and most umpires ever since!!That game the fix was in for the Dodgers and Drysdale to keep that streak alive!! FUCK LA!!
- zumiee said, on March 9, 2018 at 7:59 pm
  
  Do we perceive less attitude from umps now that replay shows how often they’re wrong on close calls? The old-timers like Joe West still show some attitude sometimes.