Pfffttttt…..
I caught myself wondering how last night’s game would have gone had we had Belt and Longo in the line up. Taking out projected 50 bombs from your batting order is a killer. And what about Cueto pitching instead of our faux ace? I guess you could look at that the other way, what if they had Kershaw going instead of Stripling…..
Bottom line, our team is fighting hard but as we discussed pre-season, this is not a team built to withstand injuries, certainly not as many as they’ve incurred.
Of course we had the poster child for picture of health patrolling center field last night. And look how that worked out…
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i’m trying to come up with an excuse for Jackson other than he was just completely checked out mentally. I can’t. Giants fans tolerate a lot of shit, there is very little *east coast* in SF fans. But mentally checking out for a Dodger series is unforgivable. He should be cut immediately for that reason alone. And who knows, maybe he’s been hording all the good health juju. Everyone gets better when he leaves. That was the worst attempt and catching a baseball I think I’ve ever seen. That was little league shit.
Well, to me fixing CF was first off season priority. There were plenty of options, but taking Longo to offset Span and signing Watson blew up Evans lux tax. End result being Jackson Gorks and Blanco were plan for CF.
And of course Pence for LF. Giants wildly over valued these guys tho Gorks has been more than acceptable.
Gotta wonder if Cle offensive stats are bit inflated. A’s took R Davis off their hands a year ago and like Jackson he wasn’t near the player he was for Tribe.
Kinda funny that Span the guy everyone loved to hate is having fine season as part time LF with 33 rbis and .778 OPS.
And he’s colored the gray out of his beard.
Jackson may have possibly had some trouble seeing the ball well in twilight, but still….he’s a longtime veteran major league outfielder.
Why was it decided in advance that Cutch could no longer play CF?
I’ve said before that I thought it was stupid to move him AND Pence into unfamiliar positions at this stage of their careers. Gorkys isn’t exactly Jim Edmonds out there…
Belt and Bum ready to roll, good sign. Good for Belt telling team he didn’t need any rehab games.
Still get 2 of 3 and then second shot at Marlins at home.
Props to Pence for going down and working on some things, but wow. Experiment looks like fail so far. Might be right thing to let him go and see if he can hook on with contender somewhere.
why would a contender sign Pence?
Motivational speeches…
Yep, Loo nailed it. Motivational speeches, pure and simple…
The longer Jackson goes on the pisseder I get.
One of your all-time great sports photos. The definition of domination.
Some good stuff in Super 70s . . .
I still prefer and wear those kind of socks. I have to go to a special website to get them.
Since I never wear shorts no one abuses me about it.
I find those popular ankle socks really uncomfortable…
Now that was a basketball team. I loved those guys. 14 year old hoops junkie I was.
Anyone notice that Joc Pederson sings to his bat and grabs his junk while in the box? McCovey Chronicles pointed it out.
and . . .
99% of players grab their junk, but that is still fucking hilarious…
That’s fucking awesome. lulz
Almost makes me long for Rowand in the box. NOT! See at 43 seconds . . . hilarious that the fans have it down.
At ~35 seconds he has some major wood going on…😂
There must be a separate vid of all his Ks…
The Giants pitching in 2010 was so good, the team was able to win a title with this dude playing CF at a .659 OPS clip in 357 PAs. Think about how good the pitching had to be for that to happen…
That last bit was right after Renteria hit his three-run bomb off of Cliff Lee in game 5. I always thought Rowand was celebrating as much because the onus of getting a hit was no longer on him as he was stoked that the Giants had just taken the lead. A real *whew* moment.
Giants fans *have* to tolerate a lot of shit. Nature of the beast. LOL
We’ve all learned over the years: nothing ever comes easy for the Giants. 🙂
That’s why Wilson’s torture-free bottom of the 9th in the 2010 clincher was so shocking.
I remember trying to somehow brace myself for all hell…
2003 was the one season where I felt it was coming easy for the Giants, and then they flopped in the playoffs.
I had a strange sensation for days after the final out of the ’10 World Series that somehow it still wasn’t over. That maybe the Commissioner was going to announce that there had been a mistake, and the Giants would have to play more games.
Giants leading the NL in errors.
Probably rare, if ever, a team has that record as part of a division-winning regular season…
Longoria with 11, Belt and Tomlinson next at five each, Craw and Hanson with four, and then a number with threee or two each. Longoria, when he returns, needs to tighten shit up at the plate, too. He leads the team in Ks at 57, with Actionless and Craw nipping at his heels at 54 each. Longoria also needs to improve his .246 average and .711 OPS.
Looking at last night’s highlights, in that HR by Kemp and double by Puig, those pitches would have hit Posey’s target right on the money, had they not been clobbered. Target was belt high over the plate, so maybe it’s not all Holland’s fault. Not sure what the thinking is behind that target location with those hitters…
Posey’s probably thinking that the pitcher will miss the target, which kind of makes sense…
That was Hundley at catcher last night.
I’ll still stick with the theory.
Like they say in golf – if you aim for the hole you might miss the green…
I should not take it for granted now that the C is Posey …
Fatigue was no excuse for last night’s no-show sleepwalk.
Plenty of time to sleep on the plane and in the hotel for a night game.
Jackson must be benched for that embarrassment last night…
I agree with you Loo, but I also think that the Giants are outmatched/outmanned by the Bums. The team they saw in April has regrouped. Also, their frickin’ team is so deep. Who ever heard of Muncy? Or Ross Stripling? Or Walter Buehler? Most people here thought Kemp was done and you could put a fork in him. Not that it mattered at the beginning of the season when everyone thought the Dodgers would cruise to the Division crown. What fucking luck that they signed him and he’s responded with a renaissance season.
Same shit last year with Bellinger and Taylor.
Oh yeah, I still feel great gratitude to the Astros for defeating them in that Game 7. That was an awesome moment in the season.
bums are playing damned good ball. But if Giants can get everyone healthy (Belt, Cueto, Longoria), and everyone plays to their potential, I still think this team can challenge for the division, but they have to do better at winning on the road.
Not to make exuses for Actionless on dropping that bal last night. But, if you go onto mlb.com and watch the vid of that play, there’s a slo mo close up that shows right before the ball klanks off his glove, his eyes move left as he quickly looks at the wall to see if he’s going to hit it. That’s why his glove was slightly off position and he muffed it. Like a WR drops the catch, because he looks at the last second for the d-back about ready to clobber him. He’s a big leaguer, he took a bad route to the ball, too, and that shouldn’t happen, but it did. The dude is making it hard not to call him a bust acquisition before he even gets to the AS break…
No excuses tonight. They have their real “Ace” going, not the faux one. They hopefully also got their 8 hours of beddie time.
By the by, the injury excuse is lame too. Shit, the Angels currently have 15 players on the DL and they’re 6 games above .500 playing in a far more difficult division than the Giants are.
disagree. Every team is built differently. We had no depth and a shit farm system. A team like the Giants can’t afford to take injury hits like this.
It’s still no excuse in my opinion. That’s why we need a good farm system versus the “shit farm system” we both agree is in shambles. And yes, the Giants can’t afford to take injury hits like this, but it comes with the territory of being thin with utility players and the aforementioned farm system.
excuse is the wrong word then. It *explains* it.
Yes, I agree with that.
Even Sabeans saying LF is a”Black Hole” and he’s considering using Hanson out there.
What’s to consider ? Just freakin “DO IT”
And yeah realign the OF and go with Hanson LF,Cutch CF, Oaf RF that’s are best possible power & speed combo!!
What a flubbed-up situation. Pence and Jackson should be dropped, but even bringing up AAA guys inches the Giants past the luxury tax line, and the Giants aren’t going past that line.
I assume Cain’s $7 million buyout counts for lux tax purposes?
If so, they’re hamstrung by paying a guy to call into talk shows once in a while, and he’s not even good at that…
And unfortunately this year happens to be the highest year in Melancon’s salary. For this one season his salary spikes up to $20 million.
I’ve read where for lux tax salary threshold computation, they take the average salary of the players over each contract, so with that, Melancon’s average salary of $16M would apply. I can’t confirm that, but I think it was in McCovey Chron. Not sure how the buyout works…
1. Gorkys Hernandez (R) CF
2. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
3. Andrew McCutchen (R) RF
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Mac Williamson (R) LF
7. Joe Panik (L) 2B
8. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
9. Alen Hanson (S) 3B
calling an Oaf bomb tonight
What inning?
Kinda like it…
Longo news — Tuesday surgery on the hand.
6-8 weeks…
Anyone else have interest in or following the College World Series? It just kicked-off, today.
what’s he got, 4 kids now? 5?
17 kids…or maybe this is 18…
Bochy pulling the pitcher in the 8-hole lever. Would love to see Bum go yard, and shut the bums’ sorry asses down, too.
nonsense?
https://frsbaseball.com/mlb/giants/heyman-giants-could-make-sense-for-bryce-harper/
I don’t think it is total nonsense for two reasons (and both were covered in the article):
1 – they made a hard run and were all-in on Stanton. With Cutch and Pence gone next year, why not…
2 – comment By Harper’s friend that “they do make some sense.”
The $100 question is, does Harper want to come here? That often is the long pole in the tent for the Giants when chasing FAs.
they didn’t make a hard run at Stanton. Did you see what they offered the Marlins? I don’t have the deal in front of me but it was basically shit. It was like Span, Arroyo and something crappy. Something like that, maybe not even Arroyo
I see where the usual USGA stupidly-tricked up golf course for the US Open is causing havoc among the golfers. Check out the Mickelson melt down on the green video. I never understood and still don’t understand the principle of tricking up a course with foot high rough and concrete greens to identify one of the best golfers in the world. Those conditions are not like the weekly conditions on tour. So, now, in essentially the most important golf tourney in the US, you change the playing conditions radically from normal. That is why half the time the winner is a no-name that nobody remembers in 3 years. If you don’t hit a straight drive and a perfect approach, you are dead. No imagination or troubles skill can help, you just have to hack out and take your lumps. Part of being a golfer IS using skills to get up and down from bad places, not bad places with a foot of hay in them…
this was what the Giants offered. Basically shit.
FanRag Sports’ Robert Murray reported Monday that the Giants’ offer consisted of left-handed pitcher Andrew Suarez, outfielder Denard Span, and third baseman Jacob Gonzalez. He also noted that the Giants were willing to take on “most, if not all of Stanton’s remaining contract (which is close to $283 million, per Spotrac).”
I thought the Marlins had agreed to it, but Stanton nixed it with his no-trade clause because he didn’t want to come to the Giants. Am I remembering that wrong?
This is what the Merc reported in December:
“The power-starved Giants sure wanted him. They worked out a trade with the Marlins contingent on Stanton waiving his no-trade clause. That’s where things stalled, even if — as his agent Joel Wolfe noted Monday — Stanton never officially told the Giants no.
The sticking point, Stanton said Monday, is that he wanted to win immediately. And even after meeting officials from the Giants and the St. Louis Cardinals, who also had a contingent trade agreement in place, Stanton wasn’t sure those teams were instant World Series contenders.”
Did the Giants make a big effort to win over Stanton?
Their offer was shit, whether Stanton nixed it or not. If he did I guess it wouldn’t have mattered what they offered
Interesting that if it’s true the Giants we’re ready to pick up Stanton’s remaining years that now all of a sudden we’re getting about how they can’t go even a dollar over the lux tax…
I always admire players that have other interests, such as Charlie Morton. He told JP Morosi of MLB Network that this could be his last year. That would be unusual considering the big pay day that would seem to be just around the corner. Currently, he’s making $7 million on a one year deal with the Astros. He has an 8-1 win/loss record, with a 2.94 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, and 11.4 SO/9.
what are his other interests
Dunno. The article I read was a run down of what’s going on for each MLB team. Just a sentence about him thinking about calling it quits.
Longoria in the dugout looks about 50 with his hat off…
Textbook how to get Taylor out. Throw high hard strikes.
bottom of the first and these fox guys, eric karros and somebody else, already have used the phrase “in all of baseball” some 20 or 30 times
Bumgarner looks ok, but the dodgers clearly are trying to get his pitch count up
Meanwhile: Wood, 2 innings, 18 pitches.
Ah, the in-game interviews start.
And we get to hear Roberts celebrate. Lovely.
And we get to hear him cackle.
Hey ask him about losing to the Astros.
Of course FOX never fails to break out the insufferable Eric Karros whenever the Dodgers are on.
The Giants have serious warning track power.
Too many pitches tonight from Bum are easy takes for the Dodgers.
Man, Puig is an asshole. Just walk up to the plate dick head without all the machinations/acting.
Bum got robbed on ball 4 to Bellinger.
Mac had that catch all the way. 🙂
yeah f-ing finally. I hate these slop throwing Dodger SPs.
That’s where the cutesy thing of batting the pitcher 8th can hurt rallies.
Make this guy throw a strike.
LIke to see Hanson put some pressure on someone for a steady place in LU.
MadBum should not be batting 8th right now.
Whoa! Nice play by Alen.
What a pick by Belt!
Bum just isn’t good right now.
All game Madbum has been out of rhythm. Just can’t locate his pitches like he normally does.
His 2-2 pitch to Taylor was 2 feet outside.
No he’s not.
Fuck me.
Two first-pitch meatballs served up by MadBum tonight.
Come on . . . let’s just play the game.
another warning track out.
Shocked we didn’t hit Woods. Dude is a finesse or slop pitcher as Willie said. Belt’s one RISP opportunity I believe would have been another story with a couple of rehab games behind him. Regardless, good fielding by the Bums and bad luck for us, gave him a quality start.
Fuck. This feels like a last-year game.
Boch put Bummie 8th? Fuck. The guy hasn’t pitched in months let alone swung a fucking bat.
Stupid move.
Yeah, Mac commented on that and I agree, especially in lieu of the fact that him being in the 8th spot bit us in the ass when Madbum had RISP.
Hey LJ, I agree most Bum players are insufferable, but Karros seems to be playing it down the middle . . . Actually, quite a few comments have been quite complimentary toward the Giants. I just don’t sense a certain bias with him.
However, I don’t know much about Karros – so I’m curious – what has he said previously that’s been disagreeable to you?
I was gionna say, for a Fox guy, he says more things decent about the Giants than anyone else. Maybe it was his time in the Bay Area,
Bum just kind of plowed his way through to a quality start.
Is that even a thing anymore?
What’s with the woman tripping on acid driving through town?
Criminy, another lame effort t the plate for these guys.
Pence?
Oh fuck me. Pence needs to go. Bad call in the check swing but he got 1 strike in that AB.
That’s 2 walks we just lost.
Time to go, Hunter.
God we suck.Umps suck. Should be bases loaded no outs.
Maybe he’s changed his tune, but in years past he was as Dodger-centric as any guy FOX ran out there, especially when they played the Giants.
Anyone remember Lloyd Bridges in The Kid From Left Field? He played a washed up ball player like Pence.
Except in the movie, Lloyd actually makes a comeback. lol 🙂
Pence isn’t going to be in the majors next year but we have to hang onto him this season.
Speaking of baseball movies, the MLB Network plays the same 6 or 7 movies over and over. I don’t get it.
So does HBO.
The Dodgers bullpen hasn’t given up a run in quite a while. I’m guessing about 20 innings.
Flav, you can copy today’s thread for tomorrow.
You’re saying the Giants will look flat and lifeless tomorrow, too?
Yeah, probably good call.
Dodgers making all the plays, one of those games where it just feels like the baseball gods are LA fans tonight. Moronta looks fantastic when he throws strikes
Is Matthew Maconohay in every commercial now?
Bummie was starting to give up a lot of home runs before last year’s injury. It seems to be getting worse.
Flav’s juju is going to come through here with Mac hitting a bomb . . . umm, right Flav?
Where the hell did the ball go on the throw by Turner?
Skipped on the grass. E on Turner throw.
I mean after that. It looked like it got stuck under the padding.
Jensen is all over the place.
blehhhhhh
Fuck the goddamn motherfucking dodgers. Bummie is close but the outfield needs to be shitcanned. Jacko and Pence need to be simply jettisoned.
The Dodgers play the Cubs next week; maybe the Cubs can slow them down.
Who’s going to fix the Giants and their 1-5 roadie?
Jettisoned. I like that. Make it so.
I like Flav’s 7:47. Dodgers SP was better, they hit more bombs than SF and made many fine D plays too. Minus their D same story as last night.