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Trouble Brewing

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 6, 2019

If a dodo head like Vargas can complete game shut our asses down, what will a guy who actually has talent do to us? Sprinkle in a chip on his shoulder for getting traded away low those many years ago and you’ve got the makings for another embarrassing effort for the Giants.

Wheeler’s busy sharpening his knives, he’s just got a short, simple prediction for this game today….

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  1. Flavor said, on June 6, 2019 at 6:50 am

    Fun, long interview with bochy on knbr right now. See if they put it on their website later today, it’s worth a listen

  2. Flavor said, on June 6, 2019 at 6:52 am

    No contest today. That’s night game shit

  3. Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:01 am

    Against my better judgment, on the train from Jersey to Penn Station heading to the game. It’s a nice day anyway, and it’ll be good to catch up with my Mets fans buddy.

    • alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:10 am

      Alright Mac! Maybe you still con Loo on hopping on that 7 train🚂 and meeting up..

      • Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:21 am

        No frontrunner here, haha.

    • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:22 am

      very cool, enjoy. How much commute time involved to get from where you are to ballgame (and back)?

      • Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:37 am

        One way, about 3 hours. We’re here hanging in the Foxwoods club

    • Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:11 am

      Give em hell, Mac.

  4. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:32 am

    Talking about box/1 stuff, I really wish NBA would eliminate the defensive 3 second (aka no zone allowed) rule.
    All you would eliminate is the boring high screen/roll James Harden offense. Zone D would force teams to move the ball and players to create spacing and open shots. Given the talent level, athleticism and shooting range of today’s players I don’t see how it would slow the game down. There’s a counter to everything–take something away you open up something else, to smartest players/coaches.

    On other side, defensively teams could trap and double team anywhere—sideline, corner, block or out on top as soon as ball crossed half court, or even full court. Given 24 second shot clock this could be quite a weapon for caliber of athletes NBA teams have. You could get really creative with different line ups and get scoring offense out of pressure defense.

    • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:35 am

      you would also take away one of most boring aspects of today’s game, the 1-4 isolation stuff that is so often used (without much success even by the best) at end of a quarter.

  5. gianthead said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:12 am

    I am predicting a Giants win today for Mac and Belt to finally get that homer I had him hitting first two games…I cannot see how anyone can complain about Boogie. Remarkable he is even out there with a recent muscle tear after a year long recovery from the Achilles.

    I predict he is back next year for the Dubs…think will only cost us about $8 million (just about Shaun Livingston’s team option — Dubs should either say goodbye to Livingston and thank him for his service or cut the salary in half and sign him for 2 years) and other teams are not likely going to pay him big bucks after these injuries without seeing how he plays for a year.

    If you were Boogie, what could be better than coming back to the Warriors either as a champion or hungry for a championship hopefully with KD in tow for another year all while opening a new arena. It looks like Boogie jells with his teammates and looks like he has a great rapport with Steve Kerr. He may have discovered happiness in life is worth more than money and a lot of other things.

    And then after he showed some loyalty, KD departs after 2019/20 season, the Warriors take care of him and give him a multiyear deal to thank him for his dedication overcoming a horrendous injury. I forget all the nuances of extending contracts to your own players in the NBA, but it is conceivable that KD leaves and the Warriors can give Cousins a reasonable deal that would pay him $14 mill for 2020/21 (believe players can only make 175% of their previous salary when they sign extensions or remain with their team as a free agent), $21 mill for 2021/2022 (Curry’s last year), $28 mill for 2022/23 and a final year of $35 mill for 2023/24. Would amount to $106 mill over 5 years (have maybe a mutual option for that last year in case of injury) and should make him a happy man, thank him for his service and hopefully couple more championships along the way…

    • gianthead said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:28 am

      My prediction is they give Klay a 5 year deal paying $25 mill/$30/$35 Curry’s last year/$40/$45 — $175 total (Curry will have made just over $200 mill over his 5 year max deal) and then offer Draymond the exact same deal…so the Draymond and Klay deals will overlap with $5 mill difference each year.

      In my scenario, Curry’s last year of 2021/2022 under contract for $45.8 mill will go along with $35 mill for Klay, $30 mill for Dray and $21 mill for Boogie, $131 mill for the 4….luxury cap may be $150-$160 mill by then. They likely go over the cap and pay the tax (dont think this ownership group cares and will remain competitive…they are at $146 mill for this year and obviously over the cap)…

  6. alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:23 am

    Cubs sign Kimbrel 3/43
    Funny How once teams didn’t have to give up compensation pick,it’s a quick sign.
    Sure Keuchel will sign soon as well..

  7. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:27 am

    Giants drafted Mike Aldrete’s nephew. Also G Hill’s son got drafted out of HS in Santa Cruz iirc. Cool players.

    File under WWTS, he always dissed Beltran as a Giant, saying he didn’t do enough to help them after the trade.
    funny enough, Astros GM Luhnow was ecstatic to be able to acquire Beltran for their team, as vet who would help younger players during stretch/post season.

    • gianthead said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:30 am

      Just an fyi, I sent a link yday about Glenallen Hill Jr and Santa Cruz High…

      • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:41 am

        thx for sharing. I just read it, very cool article. Especially enjoy parents took him out of private HS at Mitty after a year and brought him back to where he grew up to play for local public school in Santa Cruz. He did work out for Giants too, arrgghh–hope he doesn’t come back to haunt them later and Z missed a bet by passing on him.

      • gianthead said, on June 6, 2019 at 12:01 pm

        I did appreciate that angle as well…game should be fun. Plus who wants to commute to bloody high school???

  8. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:38 am

    It HAD to be this way, didn’t it?

  9. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:44 am

    GH, Boogie is gonna get a deal around $150 mill. The Warriors can only offer him 20% over his current $5.3 mill contract. Like $6.5 mill. It ain’t gonna happen. The Warriors value Klay much more than Cousins, as they should, so I don’t see that happening.

    Kawhi Leonard is available though (!).

    jk

    • gianthead said, on June 6, 2019 at 12:07 pm

      I don’t see him getting that deal under injury questions. Is it just a 20% bump. I thought I read somewhere it was a max 75% increase…maybe that is for a long term deal for a player not yet eligible for Bird rights? Top confusing for me…but $6.5 mill to what I thought would be $8 mill is not a huge amount of difference if he had been smart and saved previous earned money. If he signs a multi-year deal going past next season, there is not a 20% cap correct? My scenario had him getting $106 mill over 4…if you added a 5th year at $40 mill then he essentially gets to that $150 mill…

  10. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:46 am

    Speaking of comp picks, we lost our 2nd round pick this year for Smargle, right?

    • Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:28 am

      No, the Giants picked Logan Wyatt for the 51st pick in the 2nd round.

    • Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:33 am

      They lost the comp pick back in 2016

  11. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:50 am

    Mac also homered in his first game up for Giants this year, in Colorado. Line drive rocket to LF I remember watching that. Then of course fell into black hole at the plate. BA .118/.211/.196 for .407 OPS 18 Ks in 51 ABs
    Career for SF he hit .207 with 14 bombs in 350 ABs and 113 Ks.

    Good guy, but Austin looks like better hitter. And yes he did DH for M’s last night.

  12. alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:12 am

    I can see that being Mac’s primary role DH..
    Can’t hurt himself in the dugout I would think 🤔

  13. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:25 am

    This game isn’t starting out very well, HR, HR, BB, single. Hopefully Mac caught one of dem HR balls.

  14. Flavor said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:26 am

    Well, watching this shit is what we get when we ask for guys like Anderson and Beede to get promoted. At least we learn that they aren’t cut out for this level.

    • zumiee said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:35 am

      Anderson I would cut a break for now. He was rushed through the minors because of need.

      • Flavor said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:02 am

        he doesn’t walk as many guys as Beede so I will cut him some slack.

  15. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:35 am

    Baggs tweeted this happened 25 years ago to Giants Bud Black, vs. Reds Aug 17 1994. Giants lost 17-4 so let’s hope after all the time it took Mac to get there he’ll see a better game.
    Black turned out all right too, so I’m not giving up on young Giants pitchers yet.

    • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:41 am

      This was at next to last season of Black’s career.

  16. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:41 am

    Hey, there are ways . . .

  17. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:45 am

    Doesn’t look like big crowd, maybe we got a shot of Mac in Giants gear. Mets announced 23 thou last night.

    .

  18. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:46 am

    shoot Duggar with warning track power to LCF 370 ft away. Nice grab from Loo’s guy Lagares.

  19. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:08 am

    Just like that, we’re all tied up.

  20. Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:08 am

    Belted!

  21. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:21 am

    Panik flashing the leather again.

  22. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:41 am

    Pablo.

  23. Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Panda!

  24. alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:43 am

    Pablo tells Wheeler take that Chump!!
    Crushed upper deck beauty!!

  25. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:51 am

    Sure, the bet’s off, and Belt’s first!

  26. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 10:56 am

    The bad news? Pomegranate to start tomorrow.

    • alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:09 am

      God I can’t stand watching Pomegranate pitch, a root canal 🦷 would be easier to take for me!!

    • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:17 am

      seriously? Gad he’s throwing BP. Surprised he doesn’t have whiplash injury yet.

  27. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:20 am

    ha Watson limits damage right away. Good for the kid who had Mets shut down after awful start. Not easy to regroup after something like that happens and he had 5 shutout innings afterward.

  28. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:22 am

    had to run errand and Flems on radio mentioned Familia and was reminiscing about Loo’s signature moment. bum vs. syndegaard the other night was first time they had matched up since playoff game, decided by game face epic 3 run bomb.

  29. Flavor said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:26 am

    Pretty solid game for Mac to attend

    • Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:48 am

      For 7 innings anyway.

    • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:51 am

      yeah til M got in there.

  30. alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:31 am

    Thor pitched well after a rough start,if it wasn’t for a bloop dying quail he would of been in line for the win! Kid gonna be a big part of this team in the future no doubt imo.. Thanks Boston, you can have Nunez a relic already, I’ll take Anderson anytime..

  31. Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Fuckin’ Melonhead.

  32. zumiee said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:35 am

    That’s the Melancon we know well.

  33. alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Melanoma chokes again!
    Ballgame!!

  34. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Crap.

  35. alleykat69 said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:38 am

    Melanoma 🧨💣⛽️⛽️🔥🔥🤮🤮

  36. gianthead said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:49 am

    There’s my Belt homer

  37. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:54 am

    Bah.

  38. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 11:58 am

    Wow. Was getting updates then had a meeting. Looked good till I just checked back in.

    Ouch.

    • djloo27 said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:33 pm

      For some reason, I would find the details of the meeting fascinating.
      Let’s hear it!

  39. snarkk said, on June 6, 2019 at 2:23 pm

    MelanBust strikes again…

  40. Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    Ah hell, Dr. John died.
    RIP Mac.

    • xoot said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:21 pm

      oh hell

    • djloo27 said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:35 pm

      Most people only know his one mega-hit…

    • Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:36 pm

      Oh man, that’s a bummer.

    • Bozo said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:41 pm

      OZ is streaming him non stop if y’all feel like listening.
      https://www.wwoz.org/listen/player/

  41. Macdog said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:00 pm

    Back from Flushing. Nice day, mellow crowd, pretty good game until the 8th. Of course it had to be Frazier with the big HR, he lives about 15 miles from me. Hope he got stuck in traffic on the way home. Nothing much more needs to be said about Melancon. And it’s always fun watching a game with a Mets fan, even when they’re winning, there’s plenty of angst and bitching over whoever happens to be the manager. Good to see Anderson get through 6 after that first inning, that’s at least something positive from this one. That and seeing Pablo just blast one into the RF upper deck.

  42. Flavor said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:20 pm

    lololol

  43. djloo27 said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    Just finished watching the game on DVR, since I chose to spend the afternoon in Coney Island guzzling beer and leering at Puerto Rican girls 40 years younger than me. I guess I’ve become a bad fan. Frazier’s HR was absurd – not Melon’s fault. The game is in a horrific state…

    • willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:59 pm

      bags stuck up for him too, said pitch was at his ankles. once in the air just kept going. Giants hit a few that direction that got stuck at warning track, his crawled over. What happened after (2 more runs) wasn’t good though.

  44. djloo27 said, on June 6, 2019 at 5:48 pm

    Dying is a sure-fire way to call attention to yourself…

  45. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 6:40 pm

    First Leon Redbone and now Dr. John?

    What’s crazy is, after seeing Bob Weir and Dead & Co. he looks fricking amazing for 71.

    bw

    Great show BTW. Never a big John Mayer fan but he was pretty damn good.

    • djloo27 said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:30 pm

      Looks amazing???
      This picture scared the fuck out of me…

  46. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    Making burritos and listening to Dr. John . . .

  47. unca_chuck said, on June 6, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    Thanks, Clown . . .

  48. djloo27 said, on June 6, 2019 at 7:32 pm

    Keuchel’s a Brave…

  49. willedav said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:01 pm

    Read today Jakob Dylan movie about music that came out of Laurel Canyon (byrds Buffalo Springfiled Tom Petty yada yada) will be in town this weekend. Sounds great from article I read.

  50. snarkk said, on June 6, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    Why can’t the Giants hitters punch dingers out of the park with half swings on their front foot?…

    • zumiee said, on June 6, 2019 at 9:06 pm

  51. djloo27 said, on June 7, 2019 at 3:55 am

    The ludicrousness of Frazier’s cheapie yesterday is being widely discussed around here. Maybe it will be the impetus for a ball change when they run out of this batch. Didn’t they incorporate a juicier ball during the season a few years ago? This nonsense can’t go on, can it?


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