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Losers Gonna Lose

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 8, 2019

I hope this team looks in the mirror and sees what the rest of us see: a bunch of overpaid, under performing, slugs. Without their precious Dick they are nothing more than a coterie of holograms shining randomly on different parts of the diamond. It’s really incredible that The Dick gets this much credit. He’s a freaking oft-injured journeyman. He has 6 home runs and 23 measly RBI’s.

And yet that was the coal that drove this engine. He was the man that Buster and Craw and Belt just couldn’t do without.

Ugh, in some ways I hate The Dick. He helped create this mirage of a monster that led to the vets stammering and whining to Z about keeping the team together. Well, Z caved to their demands. The Dick went down. And they went with him.

Utterly pathetic…….

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  1. wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:26 am

    Good story on the last thread about Montana by Chuck. Snarkk mentioned Antonio Brown’s frostbite injury. That should make for an interesting Hard Knocks episode next week since they are in Napa covering them this season. Caught the first episode last night and they never mentioned the cause of the foot injury but now the cats out of the bag.

  2. wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:37 am

    Congrats to Steve on the sale of his condo. Not sure if I mentioned it here, but we just relocated from Houston to Waco. The wife took a job opportunity that was too good to pass up. Since I work remotely, it didn’t really make a difference to me. Bought a house on an acre of land out in the “country” and for the first time in my 20 years in Texas, I actually feel like a real “Texan.”

    Waco is an hour and a half from Dallas, so naturally we’re in Cowboy country. Not sure how I am going to like the feel of that.

    • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:45 am

      Waco. Wow you’re deep in it! David koreshville right?

      • wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:56 am

        That’s right. Though my fellow Wacoans prefer to associate themselves with the HGTV show Fixer Upper which was filmed here.

      • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:00 am

        What did they ever end up building on that compound land?

      • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:37 am

        Apparently nothing . . .

        https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11910

        Funny thing is, growing up here, you saw ALL of these whack-job religious nuts at the airport and in the streets, mainly the Haight. The Branch Davidians, the Moonies, the People’s Temple, the Rhashneeshies, Scientolgists, Seventh Day Aventists, on and on. I always loved this scene from Airplane! Ahh, the good old days.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:07 am

      Thank you Joe . . . Looking forward to finding my “last home” and that might be Hawaii, Oregon or even, Vietnam, to be closer to my daughter (albeit, I wont be buying property there).

      It’s weird and contradictory to my political views, but Waco (as well as Austin and San Antonio) are places I have considered living. Waco has an outstanding zoo and the Dr. Pepper and Texas Rangers (the law enforcement one) museums are located there. Couple that with a relatively sparse population, it sort of reminds me of Redding, especially the hot weather, but without the mountains. You have the Brazos river walk though. The biggest thing though – is as you said – you’re essentially in the sticks and that means peace and quiet. Way different from Houston I would imagine.

      • wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:41 am

        Spot on Blade. There is something to be said for the peace and quiet. I like knowing that I am 20 minutes away from the nearest grocery store and Starbucks. It prevents me from spending $5 on a coffee I could just as easily make from home. And you’re right about the weather. The temperature, though currently in the triple digits is much more bearable without the humidity.

    • willedav said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:37 am

      Home of Baylor Bears right? Does UT still come there ever or did they sever ties with rest of the old Southwest conference (one of my faves) in terms of scheduling?

      • wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:47 am

        Baylor moved to the Big 12 along with Texas, so yes they play each other every year. This years game is in Waco. Baylor built a beautiful football stadium right on the Brazos river. If I wanted to, I could conceivably see most of UT’s regular season in person. Austin is an hour and a half to my south. Baylor is fifteen minutes away. The Cotton Bowl (TX-OU) is an hour and a half north in Dallas and TCU is about the same distance to Fort Worth.

  3. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:28 am

    I guess Antonio got cold feet about attending practice.

  4. willedav said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:30 am

    Nothing wrong with Dickerson being straw that got drink stirred up. It is unfortunate he can’t stay healthy enough to play regularly. Guy whacked one right over our heads the night we went that went one hop into the water. He’s also hit opposite field bombs at the O (like Yaz and Sando LH), something that unfortunately neither Belt nor Craw have been able to do.

    The “caving” though, no that’s nonsense. Tell me you are not still butthurt Z didn’t trade Bum and Smith when they were likely offered scraps for 2 month rentals.

    That end of lead comment the other day “Hope Bochy enjoys this” bothered me quite a bit because it sounded like something I’d hear from a Dodger troll Don’t understand lack of respect for him and no one said anything much about him when they were winning and club was playing well. He is doing best he can with what he has and has factored in all kind of different players and lineups into trying to win. Now he has a pitching staff minus some parts no one will miss except for Dyson and he is forced to start and use out of pen a lot of very young and inexperienced guys, with predictable results.

    And yes total negativity does get very old. Giants are still much better team than I would have thought end of May and have a good start on much brighter future.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:46 am

      Good post Willie. I’ve said a number of times that Z “threaded the needle” at the trade deadline – satisfying both the optimists whom wanted a shot at the Wild Card 2, as well as action on the rebuild, e.g., unbelievable unloading of Melanoma, and getting prospects for him and Dyson. Go to the thread on the trade deadline and give me one Flapper who didn’t like what Mr. Z accomplished. Yeah, a couple of people (SD and I think Flav) indicated that they wanted to process it a bit, but I think they were down with what happened that day.

      That being said, I don’t think anyone is “trolling” here. Personally, Bochy accomplished a lot and will have a fast track to the HOF. Nevertheless, Mr. Z and the new manager need to have free rein to add coaches as they see fit after this season. I want a clean slate starting next season and whatever Z wants to do in SF or the minors, he has my support. Why? Because I think this rebuild SHOULD HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AFTER 2016, so let’s giddy up and do it. For me, that’s why I am occasionally negative about Bochy, the core, and remnants from the last Front Office.

    • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:53 am

      ok, lots to unpack here.
      1) it is an absolute guess what Z was offered. Nobody knows. There are 2 legit narratives tho: either he got bullied into keeping Bum and Smith because he didn’t want to piss off Bum/Posey/freaking facebook housewives OR he didn’t get offered enough. I am choosing to believe the former but it wouldn’t shock me if the latter went down.
      2) I don’t see it as disrespectful to call out Bochy for obsessively playing his vets. And really, at this point, I don’t have a huge problem with it. But it was clear that he wanted to keep Bum and there’s no disputing that. From that standpoint I see him as selfish for wanting to keep a guy around who he likes rather than let Z trade him for prospects (and remember I am sticking with the narrative that he could have gotten something relatively decent for Bum and Smith).
      3) Keeping Bum and Smith to chase this absurd fantasy of a 2% chance for a one game winner take all game was dumb. That’s my opinion, I am sticking to it, we should have sold off whatever we could have to improve the team. Z did that a little and I think he did well with what he was allowed to do. But I believe he was handcuffed by the lame wants and wishes of the team and clueless fans.
      That may sound negative to you. I just want this team to get better, really get better not these short flashes that all teams show in a year. Keeping Bum around does nothing for me. Watching Bochy spit seeds on the bench does nothing for me. I appreciate what those guys did for us but it’s time to move on and we didn’t move on as skillfully as we could have because we kept Bum and Smith—for no damn real reason….

      • wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:00 am

        Regarding #1, I would guess it’s a little bit of both.

    • Stan Shell said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:54 am

      In the days long gone I and several others ragged on Bochy relentlessly. His tendency to play over the hill vets over seeing what exists in the farm system was a major gripe. Now it’s coming back again.

      His three WS wins certainly quieted most of that. I was impressed how he squeezed the most out of the bullpen. Now the lineup and starters a total mess and he doesn’t look so good. He is not the guy for a rebuild.
      Thanks and goodbye.

  5. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:43 am

    Well, maybe Davis can provide some spark. We are better off than where we were before the deadline, so there’s that. And we’ll never really know what the offers were for alias Smith and Bummie, so that point is ot of reach.

    Thing is, this nearly guarantees that we resign Bummie. Smith I think we straight lose for nothing.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:54 am

      Exactly Unca – NO ONE KNOWS. As I said before, it takes two GMs to tango and only Z and his key people know exactly what went down on those telephone calls.

      • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:58 am

        as I said, there are two obvious narratives. You guys can believe the other one. I believe Smith and Bum had value for legitimate reasons.

  6. wilcojoe said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:58 am

    Saw Bochy give an interview the other day and man, does he not look good. His face was totally devoid of color. He has that stereotypical “drunk” look where his face was very pale, except for his nose which was very red. We all have that relative with the same look. Every time you see them, you wonder if it will be the last time.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:13 am

      Yeah, except that my ‘relative’ lives in the mirror.

      • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:43 am

        You? Bullshit . . . You’re kidding, right?

      • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:39 pm

        Sort of! Just blowing off steam. Those crazy kids and all.

        (thanks, brother)

  7. gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:59 am

    After suffering for the first two games I forgot they had a day game yday. Got home just in time for the 9th inning and concluding with a goose egg…pathetic series. They would have to sweep the Phills now to save the home stand…

  8. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:00 am

    this is great, look at this kid’s face

  9. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:03 am

    Here’s the question: Did he offer Bum to NY and ask for Frazier and get turned down? Ok, I can live with that. Keeping Smith who seemed to have a lot of value, man, I’m not getting that. Was he asking for too much? Did he take them off the table because he knew the players and Bochy didn’t want him to trade them? That could EASILY have been how it went down…..

    • gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:20 am

      I’m totally in agreement about Smith as I comment below…I think a lot of GMs dont want to look like fools and give up a young “talent” like Frazier and then they produce. The Yankees have one softball looking player after the next. Let’s watch them loose to the Stros and their pitching and then it will dawn on them they should have at least try and have added Bum and or Will Smith.

  10. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:05 am

    But like I keep saying, the hope is we get rid of one, or hope against hope, two of their horrible deals this year. I’m not even down on Smargle at this point. 500 is fine regardless of his contract. At least he’s serviceable. I doubt anyone wants him, anyway.

    My money is on Crawfish and Belt getting shit-canned either later this year, or at season’s end. Like a lot of us, I thought Belt and Crawfish would come around once Belt got healthy, and Craw got over the family tragedy stuff. Well, nope. They’ve become nothing but out machines.

  11. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:10 am

    And here’s the thing about Frazier: Is he really that untouchable? Shit, yankees continue to drop like flies and he still can’t get called up. He’s not exactly tearing it up at Scranton either. Maybe they’re just shelving him till next year but he doesn’t seem like some *Acuna* untouchable guy or at least he shouldn’t be

  12. gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:17 am

    Obviously I think it is less likely we are keeping Will Smith as a free agent to what he can get on the open market and I would have had to think in a playoff chase and teams needing above average arms, someone had to offer something decent for Smith. Even if it was a mediocre deal, we should have made the move to get the best deal on the table.

    Bum, unfortunately for an analytical world, is thought of by other teams as below average and since I can se eus signing him, was not worth trading him for the meager offerings likely on the table for him.

    The team just looked awful offensively sively in this series…not a playoff competitive team and that was exposed royally. Cant remove the Dick and expect food things.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:38 am

      “Bum, unfortunately for an analytical world, is thought of by other teams as below average”

      Absolutely agree. Bum’s peripherals are just above average at best this season.

    • gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:53 am

      Food things…lol subconscious…..should be good things.

  13. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:21 am

    In other words, I think it is more important to free up the roster spots currently being clogged like my arteries by Belt and Crawfish. Longo and Posey are touger nuts to crack.

    I get Bummie staying. All involved feel he was a huge part of how we got to where we got with the 4 in 7 playoff appearances. I will say I was surprised Smith didn’t get traded. He’s not part of the core, the FB gals aren’t ga-ga over him (I guess) and he’s only gonna lose value. And he’ll likely walk after this season anyway.

    He’s here for the duration, but I can’t believe that Farhan will WANT to pay Smith to be a closer for a team that is not a contender. Unless he’s fully delusional about the reload philosophy.

    Unless we get the green light to fly past the lux tax and try to contend next year, Smith is a goner and we missed an opportunity. Sure, I might feel different if we didn’t completely shit the bed after the trade deadline, but I just don’t get how Smith wasn’t moved. There were 5-6 teams looking for bullpen help and he was the top guy available.

  14. blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:23 am

    As I said, no one will really know what happened during the trade deadline period. However, I agree there’s at least 2 plausible scenarios or possibly more. Maybe, even ones we haven’t thought of. Here’s an SI article that in part explains the “forensics” (I’m calling it) of why a deal may not have gone down. Three quotes from likely trading partner GMs are key, as is Longo’s quote.

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/07/31/madison-bumgarner-trade-deadline-giants

  15. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:36 am

    Yeah, it was noted by someone here that the Yanks and Boston are fearful of the Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz scenario. Plain and simple. Regardless of how they are doing now, they don’t want to mortgage the future for the present.

    And frankly, I don’t think the goal is winning it all for those GMs. Their goal is to reach the playoffs. If they can do that without giving up prospects, all the better. As was the Giants philosophy. Albeit from a weaker position.

  16. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:52 am

    I was satisfied with ZMan’s deadline day. More than that, really. He got two solid field player prospects for giving up a bunch of nearly nothing of long term value. And, dumped Melancon and his salary. Huge. I can understand not trading Bum, whether he was generating real interest from other teams, or not. Short term rental probably depressed his value some. Bum has a lot of capital with the fanbase. Smith, I scratch my head. He definitely had a lot of value, and I can’t know, but I can certainly guess that there were teams offering some real value for him. That non-move is a missed opportunity; I doubt Smith is coming back. If he stays healthy, he’ll command some major coin thrown at him, which the Giants rightly will not match. Whether they offer Bum a QOffer or not, we shall see. I doubt they would offer him a LT deal of more than 3 years because now with this actual smart FO and Bochy gone, they are not that crazy…

  17. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:53 am

    Is it disrespectful of me to not care about Bochy’s goodbye tour? Maybe. I love everything he did for us, we wouldn’t have those 3 beauties without him. And while I’d love to see him ramp up for one more legit run that’s just not going to happen. So now that the trade deadline has past I guess I don’t care that much about the last 2 months. Since nothing is at stake maybe it’s a nice parting gift to let him to play all his grizzles. 2020 can’t come soon enough. I can’t wait to see who the new manager is. On the final day of the season I’ll tip my cap to Boch, I just didn’t need a whole year of cap tippin’. He belongs in the HOF, not on the 2019 Giants bench.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:05 am

      Not in my opinion. Look, I post here because I can say what I honestly feel about the Giants without fear of getting booted off the site. As long as I am not racist and/or break those rules you use to have posted (wonder where those are anyway???? lqtm), I’m good, right? I do that on another site, e.g., like the McCovey Chronicles site I told everyone about, I get crucified or worse (booted).

      I disagree with everyone here frequently. Similarly, I like what you guys comment on too. Moreover, I have “broken bread” with most of you guys at games or elsewhere. In short, I love you all and this blog.

      • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:43 am

        Kumbaya, motherfucker!! It’s all good. Side note, I stumbled across a FB site called Pigskin Trash Talk. The site bragged ‘bring your worst, dish it out, take it, but man up.’ I posted a comment to some clown who thought Tony Romo was a better announcer than he was a QB. I posted something fairly innocuous like ‘gee, didn’t know this was a fanboy site. I bet you love Joe Buck.’ One post and I got banned!

        But, yeah, this certainly has been a weird-ass year. I was PISSED at the outset that Farhan saddled Bochy with a horseshit team. Then Along Came Bron(Dicker)son and all that changed. Yaz and Solano helped of course, but at least they were entertaining.They won games and were hitting well. Which really is all we can ask.

        However, now that erectile dysfunction has set in, the team is back to shitsville. The timing of it all is even worse. Mainly for Smith I suppose as I thought they should have parlayed that into something.

      • gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 12:28 pm

        “I bet you love Joe Buck” — that is gold!!!

    • gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 12:25 pm

      Not to be a contrarian but I am more in Blade’s thinking but I still think he ends up in the Hall with the those 3 championships and likely 2000 wins (one would think they wont shit the bed that badly with 6 weeks to go just needing 18 wins). I think the players had everything to do with the 3 World Series, especially the dominant pitching, more than the managing..

      • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 1:19 pm

        Bochy’s handling of the pen was masterful. Just look at Dusty Baker, Matt Williams, and Joe Maddon on how not to run a pen.

  18. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:22 am

    Years ago, I used to call Bochy the “Bonehead”. That’s when it was a little rougher around here.
    No disrespect to him to say he’s probably been around at least a season or two too long. One could very well say with some accuracy that he’s been disrespected by Baer and the organization by giving him such a crap-sandwich of a roster to work with the last few seasons. Witness Gorkys Hernandez. The dude played in 142 games last year for SF. This year, all year at Pawtucket for BoSox. Rocking a .703 OPS in AAA. The guy was a starting OFer last year for SF; now that’s disrespect to Bochy, and to the fans…

    • gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 12:26 pm

      I used to go with Blockhead Bochy…

  19. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:31 am

    Giant fans at the trade deadline:
    Why give people false hope?
    Come on man.Most people spend their whole lives hanging on to hopes&dreams that are never going to come true,but they hold on to them when you need them most…

  20. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:41 am

    keep ’em movin’ on up…

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:50 am

      I’m pissed. I was counting on seeing him in SJ. Now with Bart injured, I’m stuck with riff raff and flotsam.

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:03 am

        Good news about Ramos, other than for him now outta San Jose to see.
        Bart is injured again? I’m not seeing that anywhere on internet search.
        He was just last week named Cal League offensive player of the week.
        ZMan is a believer in moving players right on up, he doesn’t puck around with prospects. Love that…

      • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:07 am

        Whoa . . . Thanks for the input, i.e., I was assuming he was still on IL from the 1st injury. Who knows? I might still be able to see him.

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:12 am

        OK, good. Thought I missed something.
        No, he’s been back a while from the broken hand.
        Last week in July he was raking at .381, and with 3 dongs.
        I can see him starting at Richmond next spring, then if he succeeds, just bring him up after 250 more ABs, like Buster was fast tracked in June 2010…

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:17 am

        I just saw an article by Schulman. Heliot Ramos apparently got hit on the hand this past Monday night by a pitched ball. X-rays negative, he’s OK. Maybe they decided they’d seen enough of him at A ball level, no need to further risk him getting hit by A ball pitchers with bad control…

  21. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 10:47 am

    I know I could be in the minority here and maybe it wouldn’t of matter these last 3 games, but knowing Dick was going to be out,it would of been the right time to bring up Davis and Shaw and put them both in the LU immediately before the Nats series started.They needed fresh young blood in the LU,not guys that need a blood transfusion before every start! Giants had a chance maybe slim but it would of been a better product to watch and they blew that opportunity against the Nats..

    • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:40 am

      Yes! Christ, this team is SO slow to make roster moves like this.

  22. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:26 am

    Whoops.
    Schulman now twittering that they’re also promoting someone else to Richmond:
    Bart…

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:36 am

      Figures

      • gianthead said, on August 8, 2019 at 12:32 pm

        Looks like perfect time for me to make a visit to Richmond:)

    • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:40 am

      Looks like my schedule for Bart looks slow.
      ZMan may want this kid ready for prime time right outta Spring training 2020.
      Maybe he’ll get about 40-50 ABs at AA before their season ends. That should help the evaluation…

      • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:53 am

        With Posey face planting the last 2 seasons, it can’t come soon enough.

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:58 am

        Totally agree.
        What leadership is Posey providing these past 3 lost seasons?
        Is his supposed help with young pitchers that valuable to stand in the way of Bart for an extended period of time? I say no. If he has to hang around, put him at first and figure everything else out from there…

      • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 1:15 pm

        Noooo! Belt’s shitty numbers are better than Posey’s. Posey at 1st is more of a black hole.

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 1:25 pm

        I said IF he has to hang around.
        I would do just about anything to trade Posey to Atlanta. Do fans really go to Oracle to see Posey? Maybe a few, can’t be a lot. The guy is a ghost, and when he does play, he’s just taking space in the #3 hole. Yeah, he can still throw guys out at second, but stealing bags is a dying move in MLB, so who cares about that when he can’t hit? Unload him and as much of his $20 mil salary as possible…

  23. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:39 am

    Posey, Belt, Crawfish and Longo. The white diamond of suckage.

  24. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 12:44 pm

    Sean Hjelle, the 6-11 RHP also promoted from SJose to Richmond.
    Z is not waiting around. He sees the suckage at Oracle, he wants to clean it out ASAP …

  25. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    You can book Panik signing with the Mets tomorrow afternoon, when the DFA waiver claim deadline passes. He’ll probably be starting with them tomorrow night or Saturday…

    • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 1:14 pm

      Where he promptly hits a home run . . .

  26. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    look at this bullshit. God, I am getting SO SICK OF THIS

    • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:06 pm

      Some 300# dude fell on Bosa’s leg.
      Like that never happens in football.
      Baseball spring training is at least two weeks too long. But, NFL camp and 4 preseason games is totally ridiculous, given the injury count by the time of the first regular season games…

  27. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:06 pm

    Yep. Thenew NFL is healthiest team wins.We have been hurt for 4 years.

  28. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:11 pm

    Congrats on lightening the burden of your worldly goods, blade

  29. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    Magnus, how could you possibly hate your own Dick? (and to admit it publicly; publicly is so apt in this context))

  30. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:16 pm

    For zum.
    50 years ago today…
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49276461

    • zumiee said, on August 8, 2019 at 5:38 pm

      Great article; thanks!

  31. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    My 13th book. I got nothin’ better to do. https://amzn.to/2MMO0lt

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:29 pm

      Thank you . . . I will be stressed out until I am rid of this curse on the closing date of September 20th (i.e., 2 water related disasters make you think that way).

      Speaking of burying something – do you write about the saying, “bury the hatchet?” The phrase is from our own native Americans (umm, not Hollywood writers) and was recorded from the 17th century in English but the practice it refers to is much earlier, possibly pre-dating the European settlement of America.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 2:31 pm

        it’s about my own personal burials, real and figurative

  32. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm

    no tv tonight, game is on youtube tho

  33. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 4:30 pm

    Schulman is such a tool!
    1st he reports Jaylin Davis in along with Chris Shaw.
    Now it’s Joey Rickard and Sam Selman
    Also more laughs Bochy wanted a RH Bat up with Vogt being LH and will continue to play LF..
    So does that mean Jaylin Davis WHO’S RIGHT HANDED with power is just chop liver to them?

  34. blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    Joey Rickard will be coming up to replace Duggar (as noted by AK above). So, we pick him up on waivers from the Orioles and guess where he ranks on our team already? I’ll tell ya . . . In only 118 at bats, the dude is better than Crawford and 5 times better than Belt if you go by WAR. Oh, he’s also breathing down Posey’s neck by .1 WAR. Hilarious. I love that Z is throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks. Keep on doing what you’re doing Z.

    • blade3colorado said, on August 8, 2019 at 5:22 pm

      By the by, Duggar was useless. He’s this season’s Gorkys.

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 5:59 pm

        Pretty much…

  35. zumiee said, on August 8, 2019 at 5:29 pm

    My yearly rant about the games only available on the internet, this time on YouTube instead of Facebook. Sigh, I could go on an on about how wrong-headed it is. In their quest to get millennial fans or whatever the purpose is.
    My biggest beef about it is that it is a cruel thing to do to the elderly Giants fans, who are so loyal to watching this team on a daily basis. So now my mom doesn’t get to see the Giants game today and she really looks forward to each game in a big way. It just sucks that MLB does this every year now.

  36. zumiee said, on August 8, 2019 at 5:35 pm

    So grateful for term limits for president, in the Constitution. Most of this nation will be so glad when the rotten sociopath is out of office, hopefully on Jan. 20, 2021. Here’s the actions of one of his cultish followers:
    https://time.com/5647884/montana-man-anthem-attack-trump-crime/?fbclid=IwAR3NnSidDV1ly0CyEDoJ7sfIfpgueRfCrQiM7sG4859GAD2CClBh5s7y_uc

    • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:11 pm

      The assailant looks like Strick…

  37. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:07 pm

    Joey Rickard?

    With Orioles, he had a .651 OPS in 2019 in 118 ABs.
    .974 OPS at SAC over 38 games since coming over from Orioles–arguably the saddest sack MLB franchise.
    Joey must be great.
    I guess Davis will have to wait and keep clubbing the ball at AAA…

    • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:29 pm

      Rickard stinks. He’s like Panik, slow and weak. They should get rid of every single motherfuck in the system who is slow and weak. Agreed, would have liked to have seen Davis

  38. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:44 pm

    It’s all fun and games til Trump repeals the 22nd amendment.

  39. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    Zumiee, I’m not being disrespectful but does your mom not have access to the internet or something? You just got to youtube and click a button and the game is on

  40. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    So happy the Giants did not sign Harper and blow $330 million in the process.
    Anyway, that whole thing was a farce. There was no way he was every coming to SF. Both he and Giants used each other for their own purposes. If here at Oracle and surrounded by this juggernaut lineup, instead of the 20 HRs he’s got now, he’d have 12…

    • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:56 pm

      agreed. Both me and San Dawg were jerking eachother praying we’d get him. So glad we didn’t that would have fucked us for years.

  41. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:56 pm

    I’m watching on youtube.
    It’s about a 30 seconds delay from the KNBR broadcast…

  42. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 6:58 pm

    Yaz was helpless in that at bat.

  43. unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    Gawd we suck.

  44. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    I like the run and hit, but a bad pitch, Posey couldn’t get to it. Belt still made it close, but good play by the 2nd baseman…

    • unca_chuck said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:08 pm

      He shouldn’t have swung.

      • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:14 pm

        He was trying to protect. Maybe should not have pulled trigger, let Belt go regardless. Oh well,…

  45. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    Upper deck looks hella empty from the infield skin on out…

  46. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:06 pm

    Kapler looks like he’s in better shape than half his team

    • alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:13 pm

      Probably why Franco is not on the team anymore.Kapler ripped him a new one on his lack of hustle..

  47. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:12 pm

    Longo looks like he’s got a good swing going…

  48. zumiee said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    BF, my mom is a combination of no interest in getting the internet and needs to see the games on her big-screen TV to see it well.

    • Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:17 pm

      got it. Sucks she can’t see the game tonight.

  49. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:23 pm

    Sucks to watch it on a 5 inch phone over a 55 inch big screen..

  50. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Great AB there by Bum…

  51. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 7:41 pm

    Yeah that was a great AB by Bum, and now Belt gets a hit.which is shocking,that’s 3 straight hits also shocking..

  52. Macdog said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    Just tuning into YouTube after watching preseason football, and look at this, a 3-0 lead! I actually have a YouTube channel, mostly videos I shoot of my daughter’s college soccer games.

  53. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:06 pm

    YouTube popped right up on my phone. Bum’s AB the key.

  54. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:10 pm

    You know how people accuse some managers of overmanaging? Especially in the postseason, when they are out of their lane, so to speak. I used to think Whitey Herzog was guilty of that inthose KC-NYY matcups in the 70s. (If I have my facts straight.) The point I’m getting to, eventually, is this: Is it possible the Z Meister overGMs? Is it possible the plethora of moves leaves players unsettled, uncertain, and unsomething something?

    • Macdog said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:16 pm

      Ha, it wasn’t until Jim Frey took over as manager in 1980 that the Royals finally beat the Yanks and got to the World Series.

      • pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:19 pm

        so, was I right? was it Herzog? By overmanaging, I mean using starters in relief (worked with Bumgarner and Randy Johnson and Curt Shilling but the history is fraught) and stuff like that

    • snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:17 pm

      I’m hoping this group of players is unsettled. They have no reason to be comfy and settled…

  55. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:18 pm

    After another great and long AB by Bum, their’s Belt basesloaded,1 pitch weak ass grounder just pathetic..

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:20 pm

      He is NOT a leadoff guy. Worse than Rowand.

    • Macdog said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:21 pm

      WTF, i’m watching the MadBum AB right now, my feed is way behind.

    • Macdog said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:24 pm

      And there’s the 1-pitch groundout by Belt.

  56. Flavor said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:29 pm

  57. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    OK. Let’s see if this sticks. Nickname for our 39th LF this year: Rickets.

  58. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:35 pm

    Am I behind? Just finished top of 6th on YouTube, no hitter busted.

  59. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    Phils’ road uni not one of my favs…

  60. willedav said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    Bum through 6 1 hit 0 runs. Sign him this offseason if it hasn’t already been worked out.
    Z making the moves he did to get decent prospects that could help SF right away plus acquiring Gennett which hastened DFA of Panik, shows me he was on top of things. He knew other orgs, what they had who could help and who he would take in exchange for what he was giving up. The fact he got what he did without having to deal off Bum or Smith, my hats off to him.

    As for Bochy, he played Kratz and Solarte when he had to, and then when Solano Vogt Dick Yaz and Slater got here he went right to them. Team started to hit and jell and they played good baseball. Took a lot for Madden to praise them after SF won 2 of 3 vs. Cubs. Said he liked the fans and intensity of games, playoff like atmosphere.

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:43 pm

      good post

  61. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:43 pm

    I will always treasure being in Philly the night the Giants clinched the pennant in 2010, with Wife 2, now divorced, and Kocakettes Adrianna and Evelyn (after the ballet). Lucky Adri and I didn’t get our asses kicked. We went back to Ev’s apartment off Rittenhouse Square and I booked a flight to SF. What a memory of a lifetime.

  62. pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    and fuckyou, Belt . . . and Stix would agree

  63. sandog said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    ok, you guys talked me into it and im checking out youtube.
    Who is the 3rd guy in the booth with Estes and Haberman?

  64. Macdog said, on August 8, 2019 at 8:59 pm

    Yazzzzzz!

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:02 pm

      he has almost as many RBIs (37) as Belt (40), and he’s a short-timer

  65. sandog said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:05 pm

    I think its Ben Davis from the Phillie broadcast team.
    I like Estes by the way—better than Javi IMO

  66. sandog said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:10 pm

    Rich Walz, not Haberman. Bay Area Sports Guy got that one wrong.

  67. Macdog said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:35 pm

    Finally, a win in the post-Panik era!

    • zumiee said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:35 pm

  68. willedav said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:39 pm

    yeah Dawg I thought that group was great. They asked both of them keys to finishing strong and they both had good answers. Notice first key for phils guy was Harper, second being their lousy RISP and awful pen.
    More youtube, less Kruk Kuip yada yada. I could watch those all the time.

  69. willedav said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:43 pm

    Phils btw got one 1 hit/0 runs last night in first 5 innings off kid call up of DBax who beat them in AZ and took 2 of 3. Now 1 hit 0 runs tonite.
    Cards have lost 5 in a row and fallen all the way out of first place.
    Just like winning streaks, the other kind happen to good teams too.
    Yaz and Pillar back on track, plus pitching and D, good signs. Gott in the 8th, good job.
    Good to see Clint too!

    • pawliekokonuts said, on August 8, 2019 at 11:05 pm

      so true … no one keeps playing at an 18-3 stretch, and the high shall be made low

  70. snarkk said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:47 pm

    I’m down with more youtube Giants.
    Solid game, xllent job by Bum. I still would not sign him for any more than 3 years.
    Yeah, big bomb for Lil’ Yazzzzzzzz…

  71. alleykat69 said, on August 8, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    Yes a badly needed win, and Bum was terrific!!
    Maybe he was extra inspired by Bochy’s Capt America Shield he was presented with before the game, which was rad!!!


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