Respect
Here’s what’s awesome about Gabe Kapler—he has conviction and beliefs. And with literally zero credibility here in the Bay Area (or anywhere really) he is choosing to stand by those beliefs instead of being timid and waiting for a different time.
This guy has a *boardroom* attitude, there’s no doubt. But guys like that read the room and just tell you what you want to hear. Kneeling for the national anthem, on your first public day on the job, that is not what a *boardroom guy* would do.
Now, how would this go down if and when he pilots this crew straight into the cellar? I guess we’ll see but what he showed me last night is something that would fire me as a player.
I wanna be in Gabe Kapler’s foxhole…..
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This is a good one. Accepted no where…..
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No double meanings as its entirely too early to tell, but Kapler is a work in progress. We’ll know more after half the 60 game “season” is in the books.
Meanwhile, do we have the right to dream, to fantasize? How bout Slater’s performance last night. Could it possibly be that he is one of those “late bloomers?” Wouldn’t it be a total wonder if he’s just now about to hit his stride? Giants are due for some breaks on the road to becoming a serious contender in ’22.
No. Slater sucks. His only redeeming quality is that he’s a good Stanford man. After that….
And as I reported he is proud of that Stanford fact….but forgot he played 2b there. Could he play a little 2b start of this year against lefties if Wilmer is used more at 3b??? Gives Pence probably a little go in left with Dubon and Jaylin…
Agree, Flav. Too early to really know for sure how this all works out, but I like what I have heard and seen so far. And the kneeling just added to it all.
I can’t believe the sacrilege tolerated on the Flap last night by you fellow Flappers….no not about taking a knee issue at the start of the game (I really dont care and my position on the anthem has been clear…played too much. Only play it start of the season, all-star game and start of playoff series), Loo’s sacrilegious comments that Field of Dreams and Bull Durham are shitty movies!!! I AM OUTRAGED!
And Dawg goes along with that???? You two hate your fathers???? No heart?
Only issue I had with Field was the awful casting of Ray Liotta for Southern Shoeless Joe….8 Men Out (best baseball movie of all time) had already been out and Shoeless’ Southern hickness was well established…is there a more truthful baseball movie than Bull Durham???
GH: I’d like to throw the leading women in both movies off a fuckin cliff – they’re so far beyond annoying it makes me cringe. Not a single likable character in BD – especially Costner & Robbins. And aside from the epic “have a catch” moment what is so great about FOD? Both films loaded with cliched characters, annoying dialog and forced laughter….
#looebert
I think the story itself is great…I think Costner is money and Burt Lancaster’s final role. Him giving up his moment of youth to save the girl is awesome moment. James Earl Jones great as well. I think I had somewhat of a distant relationship with my own father and parents generally and the final scene had me choking up…
And in Bull Durham for even that period in time a lot was very risque for a pop movie. I love all the little subletites about baseball that fill that movie that non-baseball fans dont understand about the game. Costner’s soliloquy about needing just one more hit a week is the difference berween a .300 all-star and a .250 journeyman is such a heavy truth about the game…
Definitely a great line…
Ray Liotta shoulda played Shoeless Joe like he did Henry Hill in Goodfellas.
That woulda been fun. Endless possibilities…
or as Ray Sinclair in Something Wild
Lmfao…..”Kaaaaaaaarrreennn”
I guess for this role would be: “Raaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!”
“Nobody lives in a corn field unless they want to! I got things organized with these ghosts”…
I could only listen to some of the game last night…any other revelations watching???
I don’t have a prob letting Slater play this season, I’m just not expecting much. FOD and BD have to be evaluated considering the context of when they came out. I liked them at the time not so much now. However Hoosiers Has definitely stood the test of time. Look have you seen that yet?
Gene Hackman is great in anything.
I’m not too big on sentimental stuff in general.
I’ve seen Hoosiers a couple of times – kind of indifferent about it.
The thing I remember most about it was seeing it in Grauman’s Chinese Theatre when it came out.
A wannabe actor friend of mine was mighty pissed about not being cast as one of the players…
Isn’t it based on the story about beating Oscar Robertson’s HS from Indianapolis? Hopper is pretty weird.
Loo not being sentimental is the POTD….
Hoosiers is a classic and did watch it with my oldest over the xmas break after he got back from a semester in Seville. I became a big fan of Dennis Hopper when he made his comeback with Blue Velvet and think he was nominated and maybe even won for Best Supporting Actor for Hoosiers…
Jaylin Davis published a short essay that was titled:”The hardest stories I’ve had to tell”
About his times back in college at Appalachian St (2014) where racist fans would yell out as he tracked down a flyball and say monkey& banana, and even more disgusting:I’ve got a tree and rope with your name on it”!
Yeah being the only black man on the Giants roster he still has to deal with this shit on a daily basis.
Though it was cool that several teammates including Kapler stood behind him in kneeling(he was going to do it all along cause he’s disgusted with all the racism in are country) and that Kapler addressed the team that no matter what stance you choose,nobody’s being judged and were united as a team in solidarity
So the “greatest country in the world” still needs PeeWee Reese/Jackie Robinson type gestures in 2020.
Tragic…
Slater was rolling along July/August hitting .280 until Sept when he went 6 for 47 with 0 XBHs. As is he wound up .750 OPS and hit LHP way better than RHP. Seems like platoon candidate, better at OB than slugging. And yes GH he has worked out at 2b even last season. Nice to see him whack first double off Manaea, A’s ace.
I liked Tromp at the plate and Flores played a good solid 3b.
?–Chron doesn’t have box score. So when Giants shifted guys around and Dubon played 2b, who was in CF and SS?
The Hindenburg was rolling along fine too, until the little mishap at the end…
What mishap was that?🔥
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/giants-vs-athletics/2020/07/20/634681#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=634681
That Navas guy, yikes as he looks in for sign he has ball at his right hip and glove at right shoulder. He brings ball up into the glove but…he doesn’t throw from there. Instead he makes another move and lowers both hands down in front of him and stops. Then finally raises up and throws. wow takes forever.
So true! Somebody has to take the Corey Gearrin role I suppose while needing a piss break, beer break, make a sandwich between pitches..
Nice to see Slater show something yesterday. Like others, I would like to see him do well as the club will need OF options when Dick goes down. Mostly I was just happy to see some baseball. The Giants might do reasonably well over 60 games and approach .500 for a stretch. Who knows? That said, a full season of this team might be tough to watch so…
Caught The Natural recently and it has held up pretty well.
Giants crash another barrier. First base coach last night was Alyssa. She’s like the junior-assistant at that posting so we’ll likely not see too much of her. One thing we will not see when she’s in the game is a bunch of butt-slapping between coach and runner. Sorry for any oglers in the crowd, but that scenario is just not gonna play out.
Interesting documentary about Joe Jackson and Pete Rose on one of the ESPN channels. A lot of people in baseball think they’ll both be in the Hall of Fame someday. Maybe.
The argument given for it is that MLB itself is heavily involved in legalized gambling now, and it would hypocritical to keep Pete out forever. That argument works less well for Jackson.
Someone on the show said they think the Hall voters are going to wait until Pete dies, and then give it to him. Do a Ron Santo with him. And once Pete is in, it will make it easier to put Jackson in.
That would be nothing but spiteful.
Let Pete (smell the) Rose before he goes in the ground (head first)…
lmao
Baseball movies that still hold up well for me..
Pride of the Yankees, Lou Gehrig story.
61 Billy Crystal’s documentary about Mantl &Maris chasing the HR record
Fear strikes out..The Jim Piersall story of a player who cracks under pressure from a dominating father..
8 men out also well done!!
The 1B coach has about as much responsibility as the VP.
Baseball is blowing a golden opportunity to test out robots.
In addition to the HP ball/strike robot why not try robot coaches at 1st & 3rd?
They can both have a two-way speaker that can be operated from the dugout.
The 1B coach can be fitted with an automatic butt-slapping arm.
The 3B coach can have a traffic light…
Looks like Belt and Longo will be on IL after all.
So who leads off on Thursday? Slater?
mm could be he platoons with Dick in LF; I think LA might throw as many as 3 LHPs to start vs. SF. did notice Kapler started Crawford vs. LHP last night. Despite the 6-48 vs. Opie, I bet he’s in there. Maybe they are serious about Dubon in CF in platoon lineup vs. LHP
Thx to Mac for the box–Sanchez took over SS Duggar came in to play CF…not sure he survives.
Duggar may get a couple more chances before Thursday. Otherwise he’s bound for SacTown.
I would say Slater ‘s a shoo-in to lead off against Opie, right now he’s as dialed in more then any other Giant.
I’m going with an outfield of Slater LF,Yaz CF,Davis RF against Opie.
Really with the Dodgers starting 3 lefties, Dickerson is going to see a lot of pine to start out with in this series..
yes makes sense Kat and I dig that OF. Minus Belt and Panik Giants aren’t as LH vulnerable as they used to be. Plus if SPs like Opie only go so many innings anyone could be replaced and position guys moved around.
Trump tweeted about Giants kneeling.
“Looking forward to live sports, but any time I witness a player kneeling during the National Anthem, a sign of great disrespect for our Country and our Flag, the game is over for me!”
I seriously doubt that Trump watches sports. He has no interest in anything that isn’t about himself.
C’mon now,Zooms. Trumpster loves his golf…particularly if he owns the course.
Stix, Trump likes to play golf, but watch golf tournaments? I doubt it.
maybe the trump platinum card gets you tee time at one of the golf courses? be fun to try, with video record.
Trump better get use to it,cause theirs 32 baseball teams and the Giants are not going to be the only team not kneeling, book it!
not sure if there is limit to how many pitchers allowed on first 30 but here’s 14 position guys, some play multiple defensive spots:
C Heineman Tromp
1b Sandoval Ruf
2b Dubon Solano
SS Crawford Sanchez
3b Flores (maybe Green idk)
OF Yaz Slater Dick Davis
DH Pence
Not improbable.
Watson’s low velo aside, I didn’t see many surprises last night. No power — sad not to be surprised. And gold glover Sanchez showed that the reports are correct: he can’t get hit a FB, any FB. Yaz and Dick and maybe Pence could add pop, I hope. How long will Pablo be able to do the splits at 1B? That’s a lot of weight plunging down on the legs.
And Puig still out there…laughing my head off with that one…
Missing Dubon…obviously starting CF…
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Hey G–i agreed with Mac that i think Bull Durham is pretty good. Field of Dreams and The Natural are not for me, though I do think it is possible I have never actually watched either movie. But I’ve seen enough to know they ain’t for me. Movies aren’t my jam in general.
We’ve mentioned Bang the Drum Slowly on here before, which I think is a great baseball movie.
I must confess I also like Fever Pitch a bit as well.
We have a guy named “Tromp” on our team??? That is pretty wild.
His name is Tromp, but Kuiper pronounces it Trump, which is a little surreal.
I like Fever Pitch. I forgot about that one.
ah Kuip. He can’t enunciate the t in Peanuts either — but he insisted on touting that bobblehead, more than once per inning, on the day’s broadcast
I mean, don’t you think somebody in the organization or the cable company tried to get him to pronounce Michael Morse’s name correctly? He seems impervious.
Told you guys would be rooting for “Trump” this year…
🙂
If he flops, Snarkk will start calling him “Drompf”…
I saw Field of Dreams when it came out, what, 30 years ago? It was ok, but for whatever reason it didn’t connect with me like so many others. Haven’t seen it since, maybe I should give it another chance. I like The Natural, though it does take itself a bit too seriously. Haven’t seen Bang the Drum, hoping to see that someday. One of my faves: The Bad News Bears.
Original Bad News Bears may be the greatest baseball movie ever….
Was a little, uh odd to hear kuiper do the entire TV version of game last night. Tonite at home will that be different? Will Miller and Flemming get on the air, or only on radio? What about rest of road games, like LA?
Hard to say. The exchanging of booths could be a Covid risk, possibly.
Things like switching microphones has to be dealt with.
The A’s TV broadcasters were at the ballpark last night, but in completely separate booths.
I’m kind of concerned about players clumping together in the dugouts. Saw some guys chatting without masks on.
In games I’m seeing lots of players doing forearm bumps with each other. They really shouldn’t do that, but oh well. I’m not trying to be the MLB Covid police.
Hey Flavor, Hoosiers is a great movie. Some Hoosier fun facts: In real life, the team didn’t exactly come out of nowhere. they went to the semifinals the season before and had the entire starting line-up back for the next season. They sat back and played a 2-3 zone the entire season. The coach was a young guy and all he did was scrimmage with them at every practice. That wouldn’t have made for much of a movie. However, the kid making the last second shot against a much larger school was true
They must have cut out the scene where they let Buddy back on the team.
Next time you watch the movie, check out the scene where Hackman gets to school for the first time and before he walks up the stairs to his his classroom, I swear this lanky looking kid looks 6′ 7″ to me and is coming down the stairs. If the kid was that tall, in such a small school with 7 players on the team you would think Hackman would say, “Who is that kid’?
In another Hollywoodized movie McFarland USA, the coach was at that school for years building up the cross country program. The coach was a teacher well like and respected by everyone on campus The runners say they never experienced one iota of racism against them. They said, in fact, that all the schools were very courteous toward them. Again, this wouldn’t have made much of a movie.
Ah found facts on Hoosiers movie, from site thegruelingtruth.com/basketball “why the movie Hoosiers”
Turns out they beat Oscar’s team in Elite 8, and his team won next 2 years as first all black teams to win State.
One of the teams Milan beat in Final 4 was even smaller than them and Milan coach was very young guy only 24, not a Hackman type. They did beat larger school Muncie by 2 to win it all.
I really can’t stand Kuip, but I do think the intentional “penis bobblehead” bit is funny.
I can see Tromp/Trump amusing me a bit as well if I ever decide to tune in this year.
I’m not a big fan of the Hollywoodizing of stories. Love that word though.
I think i liked just about every baseball movie I ever saw. Loved Bad New Bears, Major League, the one where hanks says there’s no crying in baseball.
Read where Jack Nicholson wanted the part as the HC in Hoosiers but was tied up in a lawsuit.
He said even though the movie and cast were great it would of been a bigger hit if I had the lead role..
Lotsa guys woulda done fine in a role like that, but there’s no one living or dead who could remotely approach Nicholson’s performance in Cuckoo’s Nest…
And The Shining!!
I forgot about A League of Their Own. I like that one.
Yaz, Dick, and Pence are the starting outfield tonight.
Tonight’s line-up against the Fucking A’s…
1. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
2. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B
3. Joe McCarthy (L) 1B
4. Hunter Pence (R) LF
5. Alex Dickerson (L) RF
6. Pablo Sandoval (S) DH
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
8. Tyler Heineman (S) C
9. Yolmer Sanchez (S) 2B
P – Tyler Rogers
Kinda logical, but McCarthy batting third? L/R thing I get and well understand that only two guys can bat 8th and 9th. Oh well, it’s sorta like extended spring training and mostly about Bay Area bragging rights.
and getting everybody in there, not a bad idea. Same with pitching last night, that wasn’t bad idea either. Have to wonder who is on Kapler’s final pitching group.
Will we see a Tromp/Pence double play? Just got done playing Tilden. Man my short game is awful.
Didn’t like the Natural at all. Field of Dreams was OK. Bull Durham? Meh. The bar fight scene was the best part. “Don’t punch with your PITCHING hand.” Something fucking Strickland didn’t follow. Liked Leaague of their Own and Major League. Haven’t seen Hoosiers but like Gene Hackman. French Connection is GREAT.
It’s top 3 for me…
I don’t think Kapler will be under much scrutiny given what he has been provided by FO to work with–which is likely a 20-25 win team. He shouldn’t make much difference either way and I doubt he’s much of an asset especially when it comes to helping pitching staff. what will matter is how much he and his new staff can coax out of aging guys and what he sees as best way to utilize younger guys.
Unless Z/Harris can manage to unload any of IF older guys (highly unlikely)this team other than Bart isn’t gonna look much different next year in the field, and the pitching is open to question. It’s a very good division and unfortunately Dodgers could be best team in baseball and Padres are on the way up.
More Giants kneeled tonight.
Twitter will be twittering.
What’s all their Joe Mcarthy stuff? What’s the point of him?
A’s had none chance against Rogers.
That submariner is decidedly, definitively, down n’ dirty.
Yazman!
That bomb went to the exact spot of our last Flapalooza
never been out that way before, those were fun seats. Not to mention, uh, chance to uh during btw innings warm ups uh
all was well that ended well
How about Yaz getting game ready with a Blast! Bring on Opie,Yaz is 🤔 !!
Geez Pence with his latest gimmick, Pants worn up to his cup!
Pence rejuvenating his career in Texas, man I don’t get it. He looked exactly the same as I remembered I’m in that at bat: done and terrible
Yeah, two years ago he looked as done as done can be.
looks like the little woman has become his fashion coordinator too.
🤣🤣🤣
Bart’s not the only player dealing with service time blues, the Dodgers just optioned out Gavin Lux, definitely a move to help pickup another year of eligibility..
Wtf? You’re telling me all they needed to do to make right field playable for a hitter was to cover the fucking gates? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????
Só much for the knot hole gang fans.It makes sense when the breeze is blowing in it will knock ball downs, over being enclosed! Shit with no fans this year they might as well keep all the arches closed and get more offense!
Pinder got fucked out of a HR btw, can’t believe they could miss that call..
If they keep that knothole room covered up all “season,” we will see the first opposite field splash hit. Probably more than one.
I’m listening to the tv and radio feeds — for some reason, the timing on my wifi is exactly right. It’s like hearing allf four of them in conversation. Miller and Flemming are more interesting.
mm I may have to figure out a different way to catch games. Even 2 months of all Kuiper all the time is gonna wear.
Sanchez May be a GG in the field, but he’s worse than a pitcher in the batters box.He doesn’t load up his back leg ( left) at all , and just hits off his right leg weakly!I don’t see why the hitting coach doesn’t see that and work on driving the ball off your back leg?
well, turns out he had a back problem tonight, so he’s out of the game after one AB. We’ll have to wait to see him at his best, which won’t be good.
Good for Dickerson, no doubt opposite field bomb. Sure hope he can last couple months.
Some Reds players knelt during the Anthem tonight.
McCarthy crushed one, but looks like the same R-CF home run void to me.
The wall at that spot is now 6 feet closer, but still far away.
Like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.
Exactly. Ridiculous non-move on the fences.
Sanders (in Anaheim) woulda had Spiezio’s HR with 6 more feet, I think…
nice AB by Solano there to get el gordo home.
There’s a spot in centerfield that is 8 feet closer. That will bring a few more HRs.
mmm issue is gonna be how many of them are when Giants are up, or pitching.
Yep
wow that was embarrassing AB from Pence, waving at 2 pitches nowhere near K zone.
Pence looked horrible on the last breaking pitch
btw, a young Robert Mitchum would’ve made a terrific RPM in Cuckoo’s Nest. At least as good as Jack, great as he was.
That interview with Yaz might literally be the only in-game interview I’ve ever enjoyed.
More embarrassing for Pence when he’s wearing Lexi pants on…
Pence better lose those damm Lexi pants before going to LA!!!
Ruf got burned there, hit that pretty hard nice play by Pinder.
new catcher Brantley uses that one-knee down stance, too, like TROMP and Bart, at least with no one on base
It just seems vulnerable to taking a foul ball off that thigh. Ouch.
The Giants’ schedule is tough because they don’t get to play the Giants.
Lulz
Giants pitchers got 12 K(A)’s.
yeah thx. Thought they had a bunch. Shut down A’s vaunted offense pretty well. Have to say, new pitcher usually has edge and no second ABs with 9 man rotation.
Sweeeeep!
Kapler ‘s on 🔥with is 19 man pitching staff!
The Dodgers played 3 pre-season games and scored about 25 runs.
that last AB for a while will bug Bart—check swing that turned into 3-6-3 GIDP.