Win Today, Salvage The Week
Man, ONE OUT AWAY from a coveted QS. So close. Feel bad for Pence, nobody would feel worse about blowing it in that situation. But, it happens.
Jon Heyman called Kershaw the best pitcher in history (or something like that i was too busy laughing to read it closely).
Well, we got our one reliable pitching performance for the week. It is back to the rosary beads today….
I’ll tell you, I must be like some kind of savant or something, I don’t know how I keep earning these prestigious Trump awards…..
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I feel bad for Pence also but so far he seems much more of a liability than an asset. I have seen outfielders loose balls now and then but i have never seen one so far off as last night. My guess is he was distracted and not paying the attention needed to make the play. That is the one thing I loved about Willie Mays he knew where the ball was going just from the sound of the bat. But then again what do i know.
Still a productive outing from Cueto despite how it ended. See how gausman battles Buehler today. Expect return of Craw and Belt see who gets day off. Lot of other good pitchers going today–Morton deGrom Stras Marquez of Rox Lamet (vs. Bum) for Padres.
Pitching still seems ahead of hitters…even on LA Bellinger and Muncy below Mendoza line. A’s big guns haven’t gotten rolling yet either Chapman Semien Olson hovering around .200. Their pitching has been holding down Stros in this series…hopefully they don’t wakeup at home when Giants get to town.
Yeah, four shutouts on Friday and three more yesterday. On the other end there’s the Pirates, who have given up 28 runs in two games vs. the Tigers.
Shea said Bishop is back in camp in Sac, Bailey and Bart working at 1b plus C, and Davis “progressing with his swing and driving ball better” according to Kapler. “Things are trending in the right direction” he said.
so we’ll see if there are any roster moves for position players
Meh. We’ll have Pence, Belt, Crawford and Panda in this lineup for the foreseeable future.
Bore core or not, let’s take the series and go take a couple from the Stros (3-7 in their last 10).
Really have to question the crack medical staff &Kappy on they’re handling of both Shark & Cueto. Shark mentioned you his credit( most pitchers won’t fess up) that he had difficulty even loosing up in the BO before his start, and yet they sent him out with the predictable results of getting hammered.And even then they wouldn’t pull him as the onslaught continued!
Now he’s on the DL and it’s probably the end of his Giants season and career with a bum shoulder.
Same goes with not pulling Cueto,who obviously convinced the trainer and Kap he was still fine when obviously he wasn’t which turned out to be both his knee and a blister.Grow a pair Kap, most managers would of pulled him in that situation but not you!!
Now down 2 starters,Shark&Smily
expect a Trevor Cahill sighting soon since Suarez is best suited for a worn down pen right now..
Can we please get Jaylin Davis back up here now?
I know he can ketch a fly ball over Kapler’s stud man crush guy Pence and hit better than.063..
He could probably make better videos with Lexi too…
LMAO…
Yeah, the games we have won have been despite the managing unprowess. And he’s mismanaged at least 3 losses. I had no preconceived notion about Mr. Kotter, but I’m falling off his wagon. He sounds great, and gives a good post-game interview, but his pitcher handling is completely awful. Seeing Pence get pitched around in the 1st inning was another indictment of his lineups.
Of course with a righty today, we get Belt and Crawfish. Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Gasman isn’t our worst starter, but I have little faith in this one with the likely lineup,
You think the Giants would have a better record right now with a different manager?
I do. I think it would be possibly three or four games better if they had someone like Bob Melvin. Oh, and by the way, his current contract with the A’s ends after 2021. The Giants should go after him, IMO.
Yes. I think his pen mismanagement has cost us a couple game. And very well could have blown last night’s game.
I do if they landed a Joe Giradi who was available this off season.And would of cut Pence and Panda by now who are wasting LU spots.Are even if they could lure Bob Melvin after next season,hey he played for the Giants and is a master at the analytical shit. Zman has ties with him from Oakland days, he would be a great fit.,
the manager, especially TODAY’S manager, has almost no impact on the player personnel. That’s 100% Z and Harris.
Well maybe they should 100% both agree to cut Pence&Panda and move on,they’re both useless and just slowing down a rebuild that’s desperately needed..
Did not see your comment on Melvin before responding to Zumie, Kat. I agree on Melvin. They should make a hard play to sign him.
Godson Pads fan was texting me re: Tatis who hit leadoff bomb and then a later one in 8th (7 overall now), used the words MVP. winning any award this season seems hollow–having 2 good months vs. totals after 6 and slogging through August/Sept grind. Fantastic young talent though.
Pads get Bum today at Petco then have rematch with Dogs in Latrine.
TATIS is going to win multiple MVPS
Barry only won 7, but Harold Baines is in the HOF…
1. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
2. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
3. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
4. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
5. Evan Longoria (R) 3B
6. Pablo Sandoval (S) DH
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
8. Austin Slater (R) RF
9. Tyler Heineman (S) C
2 night Homers gets Slater no respect lol 😂 as Kappy bats him 8th!!
It’s completely asinine!
Here’s a chance to give Slater a big vote of confidence and he blows it.
The platoon thing is no fuckin’ excuse.
Plus Dick & Belt should be flipped (right, Stix?)
Kat & djloo: Were you guys reading my mind? Check posting times. Or is it just that Flappers are hiving up in our critiques of corporate mismanagement?
Absolutely agree on flipping Belt and Dick. Belt in the 4 hole is bullshit…
Again, does Kapler secretly still wear Doghouse bleu in his heart of hearts? What’s with this lineup–not that it differs greatly from previous ones, but we’re nearly a third of the way through the season now at game 17. Isn’t it time for K. to face the facts: Cleanup: Except on rare occasions Belt is not an RBI man, though with his propensity for drawing walks he has long had a high OBP. So once more–he should bat 2nd or 8th. Would it be too big a trauma for Kapler to switch him around with Dickerson, who should replace Sandoval in the DH “position”, as Pablo seems to be in full decline mode. In my book Slater should lead-off, with the Yazmanian Devil batting third and (oops), Solano at cleanup and Dickerson 6th.
Okay, so now we’re all confused. Bear with me: (1. Slater, (2. Belt, (3. Yaz, (4. Solano, (5 Longo, (6. DickDick, (7. Craw, (8. Dubon or Ruf and (9. Heinie. This lineup would be front-loaded with uncertainties among the back three. Pablo is plunking his glutes on the pine. No dead-wood in sight. L-R? What the hell–strong up-top and no automatic outs. Ferris Buehler is a tough cookie, so max him the best you can and don’t allow him to squeeze outta a jam and walk a man to face dead-wood and get outta the inning unscathed.
No, I’m not asking to manage anything more taxing than my daily diet. But we can criticize, can’t we? As probably the most concentrated core of Giants fanatics, we Flappers have the duty of keeping management’s feet to the fire. Many sportswriters dare not truly let it out, because unlike myself they are not recovering journalists and hafta maintain access while toeing the company line.
You probably put more thought into it than Kotter.
The team is definitely playing for him, but so many questionable decisions – and in most cases here they’re not second guesses…
It was impossible not to feel bad for Pence last night.
I think the only reason they didn’t release him after the game was because they are being nice and don’t want him to go out like that. Maybe after a dinger or two he’ll get DFA’ed simultaneously with Panda to make it look like a youth movement.
Helpless feeling indeed. I’m sure teammates have his back; fact that he’s been so awful at plate compounds it.
Isn’t it ironic the baseball finds the worse defender at the worse times.Anybody thought a pair of cheap sunglasses 😎 might have helped out Pence during his Twilight Zone encounter?
Cue the music if you’re around, Xoot.
Chi, now batting for Xoot. Barrels it!
No Wilmet today…hope Kapler doesn’t make habit of that—looking at Astros pitching staff there are only 2 LHPs on roster. one of them is reliever and the other is guy who started yesterday so Giants likely see 3 RHPs in the upcoming series. Usual suspects type of lineup vs. RHP from Kap such as those starting today Belt Craw Sandoval Heine yada yada
Free Wilmet!
Maybe it’s just as well. Wilmet’s never been an every day guy.
It might screw him up…
Nice commentary by Justin Thomas on the green after his putt burned the lip but didn’t go in..
You’ve got to fucking kidding me!!
Tiger Woods taking some shit and justified by the few fans peeking thru a fence.
On Thursday he wasn’t giving Rory McElroy some shit about his orange&black golf bag.
“Couldn’t do that ever I’m a Dodger fan”
A bewildered McElroy who doesn’t follow baseball that closely was wondering what the hell is he talking about?
Hey tiger btw the last time I noticed your driver head cover is a tiger in orange&black so stick it where the sun don’t shine!
I was done with Tiger Woods years ago when he went into sex addiction therapy, aka PR manual Chapter 11.
The guy has, after turning pro, for years been an empty suit, if he wore one, by Nike, of course…
What a lowlife cocksucker…
And I guarantee you teenage fat boy loved Clarke and rooted for him like crazy…
he’s such a terrible person. It pisses me off he ever found any fame. It was completely undeserved, the guy fell back asswards into that job and just never let it go. He’s a stupid, petty old man. Fuck him.
I saw that last night, yeah, what a dick.
“Again, does Kapler secretly still wear Doghouse bleu in his heart of hearts?”
The answer will always be no, no matter how often you ask the question. Why would a guy sabotage his own career to help a team he no longer has any affiliation to?
wow high hard one from Gausman wipes out Bellinger.
Noticed LHs batting .400 off him…let’s hope not today.
Pederson Bellinger and Muncy all off to slow starts so far too.
Get some fucking sunglasses, Belt….🙄
and get in front of groundball instead of giving it the ole.
Crawford did this other night too–ball hit to his left almost to the grass and he didn’t move, tried to glove it, unsuccessfully.
Machado and Myers homered off Bum in first inning.
3-0 Pads
Not re-signing him looks brilliant so far.
Not trading him last mid-season looks even dumber now than it did then when many us wanted that..
Agree on both counts.
That failure to trade Bum when his stock was highest was largely due to the surprising success the team had in July. Management apparatus felt that we had a chance because of that long string of W’s. To turn the old adage on its head: Sometimes you just can’t win for winning.
Zman’s sleeper pickup of the year..
Giants make a trade with the WhiteSox’s for outfielder Luis Basabe (no not the Japanese sauce dip) for cash considerations.Basabe (LH) only 24 has homerun power, but K’s a lot too! Good flyer and added depth though.
He turned around a 102 mph fastball in the futures game, which was crushed, so that’s something to build on!
Yep, saw that Kat. Good pick-up, and purely for cash.
Fairly not too bad start for Gausman. 45 pitches @ 3 IP–Ferris Buehler @ a very tidy 38. Second time through the lineup will be the test for our guy. Should he falter, facing their 2,3,4 hitters and two of them get on with zero or one outs, K should bring in Big Shaun or Menez, both former starters, who should be able to go three if on their game. Tampax Bay came up with an interesting strategy in utilizing 3 inning stints where opposing batters could not bear down on a starter second time around. From his earlier performances, Gausman looks good for the first few frames…but from there on, who knows?
Bumgarner absolutely slaughtered again today.
Losing velocity on the fastball+juiced ball=a steep fall for the hero of the 2014 World Series…that performance was one of the great ones in W.S. history.
Yikes, 9.35 ERA. I think that’s the start time for their next game.
YAZ TAZ!
yeah clutch knock from Yaz
Nice battle by Yaz coming back from a 1-2 count….
Clutch Yaz!
Big time clutch hit for Yaz!!
Kid is such a baller 🤑
Yastounding!
Bout time to end the Heine experiment. he’s 1-16 and hitting .202 with no power. buehler is tough sure but you can’t keep swinging at the high unhittable hard one and striking out with RISP there. He got you one time OK the last AB should have been a BB to load bases.
Having a LH C is only fine if the guy actually “hits.”
Yazmanian bedevils Buehler. He’s among the leaders in runs scored and now has a dozen driven in. He has to be in the top 5 or so in MLB for runs produced.
OK Buehler done LHP coming in—Wilmet time for Sandoval at DH.
ain’t gonna happen, yet.
Nope.
By the standards of the new metric (my own) 5 IP now = a quality start and we sure got that from Gausman, as its Ferris Buehler who gets pulled with the high pitch count and down by two.
I have it down to 4 innings/2 runs…
High time to pine Pablo. Redsucks paying most of his salary anyway.
I think Giants re-signed him, Stix.
Bosox are off the hook…
Having been for most of the past 4 unavoidably detained and with no internet access and with the Boyz from the mean streets of Chicago and Detroit hogging up the boobtoobs for basketball and gameshows, my information level was a bit down.
Not anymore.
We signed him this year,
Kap blew that one. Only place Sandoval has hit is at Coors. Sea level he sucks. He’s had 7 hits all year and got 5 of them in Nepal. BA back under Mendoza line, and every hit (7) this year has been a single.
Nice play by the Crawdad.
So, yes, I think Mr.Kotter has cost us some games. He doesn’t have to play the bore core like he does. And he certainly doesn’t have to bat them cleanup.
A quality start!
73 pitches through six full. That, gentlemen is not only a doubly certified quality start, but also was remarkably thrifty. Average of just over a dozen pitches per inning. Extremely thrifty. Teams fully in the hunt will be burning the wires down to Zaidi and his sidekick as August winds down. Giants could rebuild rapidly if they play their. cards right over these next three weeks. Starting pitching is the number one quest for the slew of contenders. Running out the likes of Pence and Panda and to a lesser degree, Crawdaddy, does not indicate probability of contention DURING the post-season.
“So, yes, I think Mr.Kotter has cost us some games.”
So you looked at the Giants first 16 games on the schedule and what did you expect as a record?
Well if he cost us 3 games, do the math. Right here is a perfect example. I didnt’ want Rogers in there after pitching 2 innings last night.
Why Rogers when you have 32 guys in the pen? stupid fucking move.
Interesting BP choice…
16-0 with everyone a quality start!
Just kidding Zumie!
🙂
Gift!
Fucking had hit me all over it…
i don’t understand why Gausman isn’t, you know, better. His shit is good but he’s never really put it all together. Why?
Time to second guess Kotter for bringing in Sub-boy after 2 inning stint last night…
Both my son and I were saying, this is gonna be a bomb.
Jesus Fucking Christ. For good or for bad this is an example of Kap fucking up. He’s got no feel for who to pitch in a given situation. He’s Mike Pence with a woman in the sack.
Unfucking believable Should of been the walk, now it’s a 3 run 💣
Quality Hold is out the window along with Gausman chance for a W..
What a shock, goes to Rogers a 2nd straight day and he can’t hold it.
sooner or later I’m going to fucking just NAIL that Pence analogy, right?
I just automatically think Hunter Pence and the analogies are lost on me.
You have more chance of nailing something than he does.
Doh! Put in the guy that went 2 last night? Brilliant.
You give them the walk there ( which it should of been)and then bring in the Lefty!
Austin Barnes is the worse hitter in baseball, so I guess they go with Taylor who’s still a gettable out with the sacks full
Rather a bit early–but I called it. Two men on base and bring in a designated fireman. Two sharp singles indicated Gausman was gassed. Then, like Unca pointed out, putting in Rogers after his heroic stint last night was not a solution.
“Well if he cost us 3 games, do the math”
So he gets no credit for any of the wins?
No credit for wins, and only blame for losses. Tough crowd.
They won last night despite Mr. Kotter’s efforts. He doesn’t know how to manage pitchers. He didn’t in Philly and he doesn’t here. Give him credit for the wins? Sure, but he’s blown games.
I never said he didn’t deserve the wins.
Good ‘ol Gabe maybe should have a lifeline call to Boch on speed dial when he gets past the 5th inning pen moves…
first pitch bomb again?
Yep. Anderson to Mookie for the 2nd 3 run bomb.
Shit piss fuck damn hell cocksucker motherfucker and tits!
That about sums it up.
Thank you George Carlin…
Good thing you didn’t say Palo Alto.
PenImplosion.
Well, I said they’d get one of 3.
Houston isn’t doing well right now, but we’ll be fortunate to take one there…
I need a brawl in Houston, screw the Astros!
Treat those Astro hitters like they’re cut outs and drill them..
You can Betts this game is over!
Thanks for watching , it’s on to PGA Major at Harding Park which is going to the wire with 7-8 guys who could win it..
I’m not defending Kapler but jeez look what he has to work with. Nobody today out of pen could locate and Dodgers power made them pay.
Gausman was fine today, giants wasted it getting by not hitting.
True, Willie – bullpen served up nothing but meatballs, but Kotter’s first choice was a major blunder…
Why Rogers? He pitched 2 innings 18 hours ago. Stupid motherfucking call every day of the week. Sonny Barger could have come in. We have what, 18 pitchers in the pen and you go with the guy who threw 2 inning the night before?
Lol, Sonny Barger or Amstel Light!
our pitching staff sucks. There’s no other way to describe it.
Garbage dump, oh garbage dump
That sums it up, in one big lump…
agree with Larry here
he’s hurt, probably trying to be a gamer because he doesn’t want to get paid for not working. But this is one of many reasons I didn’t want them to resign this guy. WAY too many innings on that arm. We got the best years out of him. Be thankful and then be more thankful we didn’t get stuck with him for this big contract.
Right at this point crowingdog, you guys ain’t owned nothing since ’88.
Oops. Crowingdog disappeared and my statement just hangs there.
fuck that guy. Keyboard pussy. He’s gone.
I don’t think managers, including Kapler, have a feel yet of using relief pitchers with the new rules this year. Managers are used to playing the percentages with matchups of righty vs righty and lefty vs lefty. Rogers had success last year as ROOGY. But now he has to face at least three batters. Rogers is a gimmick pitcher, I like him facing one batter, not a series of batters. So with today’s COVID rules, I don’t see him being effective.
I thought the Giants were all about analytics. WilleDav is exactly right. Analytics 101 says you bat Flores for Sandoval everytime in that situation.
You know when a batter doesn’t have it is when they don’t make loud outs. All they do is just turn the bat over slowly and hit weak grounders, popups or strikeouts. It appears to me Sandoval, Pence, and Crawford are at that stage in their careers. Also Longoria has been the 7th worst hitter in MLB since the Giants got him. The other six players are weak hitting shortstops.
Dubon is hungry, get him in the line-up. Flores looks like a professional hitter, get him in the line-up. Bart is chewing at the bit, get him in the line-up.
That is one rock solid post 👍👍👍
Hey, I agree with that!
Sad to hear Paul Westphal has brain cancer. Tremendous player in his day saw him torch Warriors in his days with Suns.
Dunno how to get it over here, but I found box for game I witnessed at Oakland March 12 1980.
Suns of westphal don buse Truck Robinson Walter Davis Alvan Adams shot .696 from floor on 2pts and 3-4 on 3s. Westphal went for 31 on 13-17 plus only 3 he took. Just a machine of efficient offense. Davis hit 8-10 from floor running off screens from Truck, alvan Adams consummate high post shooter and passer.
I remember him at USC. Think they upset Alcindor or Walton once…
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198003120GSW.html
“A new report from Sports Illustrated indicates that bad news is coming for college football. According to Pat Forde and Ross Dellenger, a series of high-level meetings among the Power 5 conferences this week will likely result in postponing fall sports until 2021.”
Makes sense to me.
MLB is having trouble keeping paid players from violating the social distance rules.
How are you going to do that with 90+ unpaid 18-22 year olds?
They cannot sell all tickets, you have to have either no fans or a few fans in the stands, so you lose the gate, but get TV money. Wait to spring and get the gate (maybe) and the TV money…
Some have pondered, without fans in the stands, do college football and college basketball have an ethical reason to exist that season? If the illusion of college sports as a rah-rah part of the college experience for students and student-athletes tries to maintain, do college sports have a legitimate reason to exist as a TV-only money-making enterprise?
PGA Winner: Collin Morikawa
From Cal.
Go Bears !…..
His eagle driving the par 4 16th hole will go down in history as one of the greatest shots of all time! The kid is fearless!! Congratulations that was a very exciting tournament with many old and new faces lighting it up till that magnificent shot burst every other golfers dream of winning..
“With another positive test, the St. Louis Cardinals’ shutdown due to a COVID-19 outbreak will go through at least Wednesday, as the league announced Sunday that this week’s three-game set against the Pittsburgh Pirates at Busch Stadium has been postponed.”
“Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
St. Louis Cardinals president John Mozeliak says there’s no timetable when the #STLCards will again take the field: “It’s a bummer.””
So by Wednesday, they’ll have played 15 games less than the Giants?
I think they’ll secede from the league this year…
An entire franchise being jettisoned like extra weight from a wagon train going west.
Arguably that’s what happened to the Warriors on the NBA restart.
The DisCards.
Well done!
RIP to the original Kamala Harris.
He was quite the entertainer.
Must be a lot of confusion in the Twitterverse…
Counting Sandoval as a Bore Core member, the BC went 0-15 today.
The old saying “the game tells you when you’re done” comes to mind.
Gimme Bart!
I’m not seeing the Bob Melvin thing.
Is his time with the A’s all that impressive? Has he ever won a playoff series?
i don’t think he’s won a playoff game. The A’s have been great in the reg season duds in the WC games. They can certainly change that but that’s who they have been the last few years.