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Home Run or No Run

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 23, 2010

If you talk with little kids or people that don’t know anything about baseball, you’ll see that they mistakenly think the only way runs are scored in baseball is by way of the home run. It seems the Giants are taking the same approach in this stretch run. I did a quick post last night about the 45 inning thing but I was shocked when I looked at the entire month of September.

When you look at how many runs were produced by position players with hits other than a home run, it will blow your mind…

9/1: Fontenot basehit produces 1 run

9/2: Posey hit produces 2 runs

9/4: 0 runs produced by a basehit (this was the 4 bomb LA win)

9/5: 0 runs produced by a basehit

9/6: 0 runs produced by a basehit during regulation. Nate tripled in the 12th to score two though

9/7: 1 hit for 1 RBI

9/8: 0 runs produced by a basehit

9/9: 1 hit for 1 RBI

9/10: 0 runs produced by a basehit

9/11: 0 runs produced by a basehit

9/12: 0 runs produced by a basehit (timmy had 2 rbi’s but I’m only looking at the pos players)

9/14: 0 runs produced by a basehit

9/15: 1 hit for 1 RBI

9/16: this was the big *explosion*– Posey had 1 hit for an RBI and Franchez had a hit for 2 rbi’s. 3 total for game

9/17: 0

9/18: 0

9/19: 0

9/21: 0

9/22: 0

So, if you don’t count Nate’s triple (and I’m not going to, it was the 12 inning and we hadn’t produced a run in the first 11 innings), by my count the Giants have 7 non-HR basehits in 19 September games for a total of 9 RBI’s. My mind is just blown by this utter offensive failure at the plate. In fact, all our minds should be collectively blown by this. We’re talking about almost a complete breakdown of one of the cornerstones of the game: a clean base hit for an RBI. 7 hits in the entire month for 9 rbi’s. And 3 of the 9 RBI’s came in the first 2 days of the month! And I’m not going back and checking but i THINK the only non-HR rbi’s came from exactly 3 players: Posey, Franchez and Fontenot. What. World. Is. This….

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  1. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Christmas come early from the Cubbies. Thank you, Santa Cubby

  2. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    No flaps down for Andres

  3. xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Shit, this game is boring. Hope Bum keeps it that way.

  4. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    I feel a little dirty, but I’m LOOOVVVVing this!…..

  5. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Wow. More hits in this inning than the past 10 games . . .

  6. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Can’t prove this, but I think Dempster hit Jose on purpose for the sole reason that he knew Quade would yank him if he did. I haven’t seen a SP so uninterested in quite awhile. Ryan must’ve had a hot date or sumthin’, he wanted no part of pitching tonight.

  7. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Juan-Gone!

  8. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Have an inning, Uribe!

  9. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Feast or famine?!?!?

    Jeeezuz Christ . . . Craziness . . .

  10. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    HOLY SHIT!!!! 10 RUNS and URIBE knocking in 7!!!!!

  11. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    Shit. Can’t they spread this out over 5 games???

  12. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    6, but who’s counting, AK?

  13. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    Bummie with 2 hits this inning . . .

  14. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    Whoever gave this offense a high colonic, they should’ve done it earlier. Unfreakinbelievable….

  15. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Jesus un real…When’s the last time a starting pitcher had 2 hits in one inning.And then there’s Uribe with 2 jacks in the same inning as well.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:54 pm

      Night is young, but Uribe may have a decent shot at POTG… 🙂

  16. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Anything’s possible when the wind blows out at Wrigley:

    http://tinyurl.com/5ffuur
    http://tinyurl.com/2snhlb

  17. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    When’s the last time the Niners scored 10 that fast?….

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:57 pm

      I dunno, but Jimmy Raye sure the hell wasn’t the OC.

  18. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    I shit you not, Jonathan Sanchez was quoted in the paper today after yesterday’s game “We’re not going to score a lot of runs every time. We’re probably going to come back tomorrow and score 10 runs”

    • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:05 pm

      It;s early yet. They may get another touchdown.

  19. max808's avatar max808 said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    Damn, I thought the game started at 5.

  20. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    “Ah, this is the worst lookin’ hat I ever saw! I bet you buy a hat like this you get a free bowl of soup, huh?…Oh it looks good on you, though.” …

  21. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    WTF is with this team? Jekyll and Hyde i can understand, but when i flipped on Yahoo’s baseball coverage this 10-0 jumped out at me. You can understand that it was essential to look a second time. Same score. This has to be the most schizoid attack in all of baseball. I’m wondering if even the BB history buffs can come up with a team with a more convoluted contribution than the September Giants.

  22. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Put in Ishi for Christ sakes. Huff is hurting sumthin’ good.

  23. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Christ, get Ishi in there.

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:10 pm

      Stop stealing my material, Chuck. It’s hazardous to your health.

  24. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Huff’s GDP was a Giant blow for seasonal normalcy for this bunch. They had me worried there for awhile.

  25. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Now that’s what a ROY should look like.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:09 pm

      delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 4:19 pm
      Next Flapper to refer to Buster as the “ROY” gets virtually donkey punched.
      Done jinxed his stoopid ass but good with that shit. Shaddup!

      Ass

  26. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Shit get Huff out of there early tonight,no need for him to be in there.Oh and Thanks Buster was that just another HR i missed while typing.WOW.And get Madison out early tonight as well 6 innings max.

  27. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Good. They got Aubrey out . . .

  28. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Late to the party. Dang, you guys sure know how to have fun. Why don’t you guys throw one of these more often?

  29. Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    The death knell for theTwins one year ( forget which year), they led their division. Up 9-0 with Viola on the hill. Lost 10-9. Putting Travis in was fine. But fuck Ford and the Kiddie Squad until the 7th or so.

  30. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Who wants to see some Ford AB’s tonight?

    • Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:22 pm

      He’ll get an AB, don’t sweat it.

      • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:24 pm

        Bochy flat out stated that a couple days ago

  31. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    Oh, come on. Pitch to Juan.

  32. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Michael: Don’t remember the year either. I was working in my cellar with the game on the radio upstairs and Cleveland kept chipping away. Twins put Ron Davis in there and those chips turned into huge chunks, with the Indians pulling it out against the “stellar” closer the Twinks had got off the Yankees.

  33. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    At 2.5 games behind the Giants, scoreboard watching fans in Denver must be groaning about this one. Also a bit of anxiety factor for the Friars and their fans. SF will not face Ubaldo in the upcoming series. Colorado gets a diet of Timmy, Barry and Matt. Their humidor will have to be maxing out to take more than one of three this weekend. If the Dagos still have a lead going into that first October weekend and if that lead is no larger than at present, there will be a bit of perspiration.

  34. Flavor's avatar Big Giggity said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Taking the series, mission accomplished. Win 2 in Denver and this season is over

    • DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:40 pm

      It would be far from over, Giggsbo. Even if they polish off Colorado, it’s still 3 teams for 2 spots….

  35. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    One more inning for Madison. That should put him at somewhere around 75 over five innings. We can be thankful the Giants BP is not quite the same as the one the Twins “sported” around 30 years ago.

  36. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Biggy: Don’t discount the Dagos just yet. Though just a shadow of their earlier selves, they could still stumble in. Agreed that two of 3 in Denver crushes the Rox.

  37. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    I say pour it on. Wind is blowing out, Wrigley can be a crazy place. Ford and Velez et al get an AB later, agree with Oracle….

  38. Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:41 pm

    I’m still waiting on the cockamamie theories on why Bochy put Velez in for defense. Don’t try a Room B response, we all know that at the very least, Bochy does know his players. So we need a serious response.

  39. IH1978's avatar IH1978 said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Listening to cubs broadcast on XM. Sounds like Santo has had a few on the rocks up in the booth

  40. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    WTF is Ishi doing running into a DP when another run scores if they get only one out?…

  41. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Three GDPs tonight. Ahh, normalcy.

  42. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    Not exactly the night to gripe about DP’s. Might as well get this one overwith a little quicker.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:02 pm

      Even when its a laugher, you don’t practice being stupid on the bases…

      • Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:12 pm

        When you have to resort to bashing the reserve first baseman, you’re a fucking lowlife scumshit. Your animus toward Ishikwawa can only be because he is a Christian. You’re pathetic.

  43. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Jeeze! Hit that 75 pitch estimate right on the nose.

  44. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on September 23, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    they need to continue this in Colorado, it does not have to be 11 runs, I will settle for 4 or 5!! GO GIANTS

  45. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Yeee Hawwwwwwww, just getting this party started.

  46. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    Kinda felt that bomb brewing up for Ross. What a perfectly innocuous time for him to pound out his first dinger for SF. I can think of a few other occasions where it would have damned near assured him a ’11 roster spot. Well, maybe now that the schneid is broken he can repeat the exercise a couple times in Denver.

  47. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Six pitches, nice inning Bum.

  48. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Well, there goes the old theory about saving on Bumgarner’s arm. Bochy must figure he has a young horse on his hands. It’s not a matter of not trusting the Pen. Just hope the extra inning (or whatever) does not come back to bite the team in the ass later on.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:11 pm

      You guys gotta read more often. Sabean said he doesn’t see a scenario in which Bumgarner would be shut down on an innings counts. I quote: “He’s got a man’s strength. I see no reason why it would change. He keeps it simple. He throws a lot of fastballs. He has an easy delivery, and like all our pitchers, he gets the extra day becasue we don’t foll with our rotation”

  49. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    “… foll with our rotation” huh?

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:15 pm

      So I flunked typing class. Sue me

      • Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:26 pm

        No worries Ted. I heard Sabes say it, just didn’t know what he meant.

  50. Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Well, wait until these fucks see it if Bum is not on the postseason roster.. and he very well might not be.

  51. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Was looking forward to some AB’s’ by Ford.But Bochy won’t even give me that pleasure, i guess 12-0 is not safe enough.So we get The incredible Mr. Lempert AB’s of Aaron Rowand instead.Whatever.Gotta keep my stud fresh down the stretch with that stellar 1-36 streak going.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:20 pm

      If Ford doesn’t even sniff one AB before the game’s done, that’s a crock. Maybe he wants Rohand to get an AB and maybe the hitting tonite will rub off on him. I don’t know why Bochy still has Bum out there for this inning…

  52. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    I don’t give a fat, furry, flying fart what Sabean said about Bum’s innings. Trotting him out in the 7th was over the top by my book. I’d sure rather see him in the PS than another SP i could mention.

  53. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Well in 2002, there was no post season for Ryan Jensen who went 13-8 in 30 starts…

  54. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Agree Snarkk and Stix….No reason in a blowout did he need to throw more then 6 innings which i mentioned earlier as well.Could have been out with 80 pitches thrown.

  55. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Go Whitey!

  56. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:29 pm

    Prez gets in on the guest list.

  57. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Maybe they’re showcasing Rowand for a possible bad contract swap with the Cubs this winter…

  58. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    Rowand was the plus one.

  59. Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:30 pm

    There is just no such animal as the bitch free game in the Snarkklefuck and Katfuck worlds.

  60. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    Panda – base hit RBI

  61. Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:34 pm

    I told you before September began: if they pitch Bumgarner the whole way in the regular season, he’s out for the PS as a starter. Zito’s success this month guarantees that he’ll be in the rotation if they go to the playoffs. Pay attention.

  62. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:41 pm

    Must be the full moon effect with Pablo hitting with RISP. Heard your prediction, Twin, on Bumgarner not pitching in the PS. Don’t agree with that position, even if there is some kinda logic there with the new and improved model Z.

    • Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:54 pm

      You don’t have to agree, Stix. I would rather see Bumgarner, as well. I’m presenting you with Realityville.If Zito is not in the starting 4 for the PS, you might as well kiss his ass goodbye.

  63. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    Well it’s one of several interesting roster decisions that hopefully will have to be made…

  64. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    Mota mowing down those Iowa Cubs. Bout right.

  65. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    I thought Bum heard a voice telling him to “go the distance”.

    Being way off base here. But, has anyone thought about the Giants going all the way with Bum, just to use him in an off season trade?

  66. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Stop clowning around.

  67. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:52 pm

    Bozo: C’mon. No clowning around. Trade Horse #2 at age 21? Maybe even up for Pujols.

  68. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Loo: While we’re at it you damned well better quit that mind-reading stuff. Spooky.

  69. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on September 23, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Zito will pitch game 3. No doub’t about that.He has the only playoff experience on the hill that they lack.It’s an automatic that Bochy will start him.

  70. Flavor's avatar Big Giggity said, on September 23, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    Giants will roll the last 6 games. Az at AT&T is gonna be easy. And San Diego will be running on fumes. We’ll win 4 of 6 eatin a ham sando, more than they if we bother to put down the sandolicious sando…

    • willied's avatar willied said, on September 23, 2010 at 8:06 pm

      Hope so, but AZ was no picnic last time in. Obviously, Sf bats can go silent at any time.

  71. Bozo's avatar Bozo said, on September 23, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Ah yes just another shutout. Sweet game

    I know what I said sounds stupid, especially with the contract and all. But, sometimes I just wonder if Sabes might have something up his sleeve with the young Bum. Like I said totally off-base, but…

  72. Flavor's avatar Big Giggity said, on September 23, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    And twin is correct, zito has locked up the 4 spot and bumgarner will be shut down. Absolutely the right thing to do

  73. Michael's avatar Michael said, on September 23, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    I kind of expected to see Ford but Bochy has to start thinking about the possible postseason roster, Ford won’t be on that roster.

  74. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on September 23, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    With a 3.06 ERA, Bumgarner would be 15th in the league, just behind Ubaldo and Cain, IF he had pitched more than 106 innings in The Show. Zito, Rowand and maybe Wheeler for Zambrano and Soriano? Or maybe Zito and financial assistance for Colby Rasmus who is in the St. L. doghouse.

  75. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on September 23, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Bonehed Merkel.

    Another Giant with a 6 RBI inning, for those of you naot watching the postgame repost . . .


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