Frustrating Bump in the Road
That game sucked. The Giants weren’t facing the dominant 13K, 2 hit masterpiece that we often see from Kershaw. We had our chances. And each time they were scattered away. Three guys getting picked off 1st base in the first 2 innings (I’m lumping Torres in there since he was out by a mile at 2nd) is comically bad. We get a guy to scoring position in the 8th and Pablo swings through a totally hittable ball and Beltran doesn’t get a swing off, letting all balls go by peacefully, unmolested by his disinterested bat. He looked like Ryan Howard for a second. Then we get Burriss on 1st base and he doesn’t come close to producing the thing he’s there to do which is to steal 2nd and put himself in scoring position.
Meanwhile, AZ loses and last night would have been the PERFECT time to heap a boatload of pressure on them. Honestly, right now I just really want to make that series relevant and we can’t do that if we miss opportunities like we had last night. Execute or be executed……..
The only good thing that came out of last night’s loss was that tonight is a must-win (as are pretty much all the remaining games except maybe 1 if you think 90 wins gets it done). I’m glad The Dana Eveland Game is now a must-win. He is terrible, I don’t care what he did to us last time. This guy is a WALK MACHINE if you let him be one. The game he pitched against us on September 10th was the low point of the season, in my opinion. The next day the SDG took the reigns at The Flap and she’s been everything you could ask for from a dingy, huge-racked California girl. She doesn’t lose to “The Dana Eveland’s” of the world…….
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I think they had to get a bunt down there to ensure Burriss gets to second…no excuse. Have to play for the tie at that moment and avoid the double play. Huff has really sucked…last night really sucked, we had our shot…
I think Beltran looked at all 4 pitches he saw. Even the one they called a ball was too close to take at 0-2…
Quick! Someone take the “Sun Dressed Goddess’s” dress to the cleaners . . . I think it has cum on it. I want it back on her by tonight’s game.
Some of you from the 80’s in the Bay Area might remember this: We used to have a radio station (I think it was 98.5) called KOME. Their slogan was “Don’t touch that dial, there’s cum on it.” They’d play that during every commercial break. Probably wouldn’t get away with that in today’s PC world……
It’s gone? A favorite station back in the day . . .
I took a KOME sticker back to NY with me went I went to school. People couldn’t believe they said that.
Half the stickers out there were altered to read ‘COKE’
“Wake up with KOME in your ear!!”
I woke up this morning a little depressed once I remembered the 2-1 loss and opportunities that were missed;
Kind of the same feeling the morning after the 2002 World Series.
But I resolved to myself that this team deserves some high-fives for its effort to make the playoffs, even after all the adversity that it has had to endure.
I somethings think that if it were not for the fan support, unsurpassed by any other team fanbase , there would be nothing to be cheering for today in Giants baseball. These guys don’t want to disappoint us.
Make no mistake here, I’m not ready to start counting the days till spring training and I’m still hopeful that by the time the weekend series comes I’m making a meaningful trip to Finnerty’s in NYC.
Their watching and listening to fan reactions; and If I or we don’t continue to project positive vibes how can we expect them to stay pumped up………….. It’s the least we can do.
GO GIANTS!
This was a typical Dodger game in LA. They have been doing it for years to the Giants. Great pitching does it to lousy hitters. Ouch!
Torres was out on a botched hit and run, not the same at all…
And no, you do not bunt to get Burriss to second. He was supposed to steal- he never even got a good lead, let alone a good jump.
He pitched well, but Lincecum gets some responsibility as well. You can’t spot Kershaw 2 runs, one on a grounder he should have fielded.
Jansen is filthy, no sin going down swinging, but Beltran is used to the Howard Syndrome- I’m surprised Loo hasn’t brought it up- he took strike 3 with the bases loaded to end game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.
So, along with his hitting he needs to work on, his fielding is suspect?
Christ. Gimme a break. It was a liner off the mound. 98% of the pitchers in the league don’t make that play.
Yeah, Timmy’s had the misfortune to face Kershaw 4 times this season. That’s it.
So the Burger Boy should beat him ONCE…
BREAKFAST TIME!
Agreed, Timmeh should never have given up 2. And that fantastic catch on the bunt attempt, dumb. He should have dropped it and then gotten a double play. And, he should have hit a home run if he wanted to win. Can’t expect Beltran or Panda to knock in anybody late. All the 4 games he’s pitched against LA this year — he’s got a 1.64 ERA and 3 losses. Giants have scored 1, 0, 1, and 1 runs in those games. He should have pitched shutouts in every game. What a loser he is….
That’s his 4 against Kershaw. More to the point, he should know he’s got to pitch a no hitter whenever Kershaw’s pitching. Friggin slacker…
Right on all counts.
You need to stay in Room B, Twin. Saying Timmy’s fielding isn’t up to par is ludicrous. It was a line drive off the mound. 98 out of 100 pitchers don’t make that play.
Shit, we all know he sucks as a hitter, now he needs to improve his fielding? Christ, you are loony . . .
Didn’ think you’d be stepping in for Nipper, but welcome to inanity . . .
Shut the fuck up. It wasn’t a liner, it was a routine grounder, even K and K noted it. You should stay on your dysfunctional blog. Don’t bother coming to “B” anymore. I stated an opinion, without animus toward anyone. I’m not going to have an ungrateful cocksucker attack me for it.
Yeah shut the BLEEP up, you BLEEP!
At some point you expect your ace to win one of those- it’s not an indictment of Tim to expect that. He’s pitched in tough luck and pitched very well. But you’re goddamn right that giving up two is too many sometimes. He tipped the pitch on the HR and spazzed the grounder.
“Big flavor said, on September 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm (Edit)
This outing by Timmy has been infuriating. Kershaw already is 3-0 against him this year. Az is losing to Pitt and Timmy is pitching ant-small.”
Snarkkles and Chuckles, why don’t you attack your host?
Welcome to the alternate Giants universe, where Lincecum’s 1.24 ERA against Kershaw (actually better than I mistakenly said before) is not good enough, and Timmeh’s fielding and hitting and tipping is why the Giants can’t beat Kershaw…
.24 too much..
Look, why don’t we just be fair to Tim and acknowledge that he should never to be expected to win one of the tight ones?
Look as his record, you troll. God, you are like a 5 year old.
When you have the worst run support in the NL, you have NO leeway.
Craig said he was pitching “ant-small” Why no response to that? Girly up and talk back.
Because Flav didn’t go on and on endlessly about Timmy’s lack of hitting, or his fielding acumen, Mike. Tim gave up a couple runs. Yeah, it sucks. Especially against Kershaw. The likely Cy Young winner. But for all intents and purposes it was a gutty performance when his shit wasn’t right.
Giving up 2 runs should be rewarded, not pegged with a loss. No matter who you face. Coming up small? Fuck that. 2 runs in 7? Yeah, a fucking disaster. I guess all of 2007 was ant-small for Matt Cain.
Kand K noted it, Mike? Must be gospel then.
it’s ludicrous to think that Timmy should hit better to support his cause. Yes, it would be nice, but what are the other 8 fucking guys out there for? Window dressing?
And his fielding? Seriously? Jonathan fucking Sanchez gets a pass for wandering around the infield while runners are advancing, and walking a ton of guys this year, but Timmy gets villified for not hitting .280, and not fielding a hard shot up the middle? Right.
5 erros in 5 years. Yeah, that really sucks. Find some other nits to pick, skippy.
Maybe Timmy’s hurt, Mike. I mean, that’s why Drrty is 4-7 with a 4.26 era, right?
Right. Timmy needs to hit .300, never make errors, and stop eating burgers.
Fucking Sanchez can walk 6 guys, hit 3, throw 105 pitches in 5.2, given up 5, and it’s a quality start. Pure bad luck he liost 8-3. Because he’s nursing something.
And we all know Timmy can’t win the close ones. Gee, who’s the worst supported pitcher in baseball? Tim Lincecumwith with a 3.82 run support average. Must be his hitting.
Correction, 2nd worst. Worst in the NL. Your close friend Doug Fister has the worst run support. . .
We all expect more from a two time CY wiinner making over 10 mill a year. Don’t we? This has nothing to do with Sanchez, and I never called a 8 run outing a quality start, you lying asshole. Don’t fuck with me, Chuckles. I never directed anything at you, I made a two sentence comment abut Tim having *some* responsibility and you and Smarkk set in like jackals.
Who’s skippy? A peanut butter brand?
Go to your E-Mail. And listen up- youir fuking ace is supposed to win some of those. Period. As far as the hitting, you fucking idiot, I remarked on it after a game he won with his hitting and talked about pitcher’s hitting in general, not just Tim. But you’re goddamn right if he loses a game becase of an error, or failure to hold a runner, or tipping a pitch, WHATEVER- it’s an error just as with any other player. Beltran is a great hitter- but he got no fucking slack for striking out in that situation, and when Tim makes a misktake- it’s fair to note that, too. Again-period.
So, you blame the loss on Timmy’s fielding.
Gotcha.
No, I blame the loss on poor hitting by the team, Burriss failing to steal, two runners picked off, bad hitting with RISP, and also a couple mistakes by Tim. Simpleton.
Man there’s a lot of unca chuck today!
Timmy has won a few clutch games, hasn’t he, Mike? Say, a few in the playoffs last year? Hmmmm.
He recently beat Philly.
Yeah, I guess he’s really hit the skids though. His last 5 wins, he’s gotten 4, 3, 3, 2, and 3 runs.
A veritable feast of support. His last 4 losses? 0, 0, 2, 1, and 1.
Sorry, no homers.
That’s true, when I have I even insinuated otherwise? He also had an 0-5 7 plus ERA August last year- he’s had six 5 runs or more outings this year. So besides the close ones, he does stink it up, as well. Fact is, he is the only player or pitcher who has been deemed exempt from criticism regardless of his performance- good, bad, or indifferent.
Even great players and pitchers make mistakes, poor Chuckles. Howard is one of the great power hitters in the game, yet he’s fairly criticized for last year’s fuck up in the play offs. Craig noted Panda swinging through a hittable pitch, yet he’s been our MVP. Saying Tim makes mistakes is not saying he isn’t a great pitcher. You and Snarkkles act like I’ve brutalized the poor man.
Goodbye, Chuck.
I DID feel he was pitching ant-small at the time I wrote that. He gave up 3 hits and a run in the first. He gave up a bomb to Sands and then he walked Kershaw on four fucking pitches in the 2nd. Pitching against a guy like Kershaw, that is ANT-SMALL. He settled down after that…..
No, you’ve given Sanchez a giant pass this season while nitpicking the shit out of Timmy, Mike. That’s my point.
If you don’t like it, fine. As usual, you have to huff and puff and blow a lot of bullshit around when someone disagrees with you.
When have you insinuated otherwise?
Here’s what you said, Mike:
“.24 too much..
Look, why don’t we just be fair to Tim and acknowledge that he should never to be expected to win one of the tight ones?”
In other words, what, Mike? Tim can’t handle pressure?
Like I said, I’m sure Craig was posting the ant-small shit in the heat of the moment. Giving up 2 in 7 is not going to cause too many people to say he had a bad outing. He struggled with his control the whole night. To ony give up 2 was commendable. It wasn’t enough.
Kershaw gave up a bomb to fucking Stewie. He almost blew the game himself. Shit happens.
I think I posted that in the 3rd inning? Again, at the time i posted that he had given up 3 hits in 1st, a bomb to the underwhelming Sands and he walked Kershaw on 4 pitches. Ant small when I posted it.
As I said, and surely the brained realize- it’s not a real good idea to spot Kershaw a couple runs. He’s not Russ Ohlendorf, you know. It is a totally reasonable expectation that we aren’t going to score much off of him. Giving up two right away WAS a fuck up. There were plenty by the rest of the team but that doesn’t mean God Man gets zero blame.
Chuckles, you left out a lotta shit in between- here’s the heretical comment that started Chuck’s tirade:
“Torres was out on a botched hit and run, not the same at all…
And no, you do not bunt to get Burriss to second. He was supposed to steal- he never even got a good lead, let alone a good jump.
He pitched well, but Lincecum gets some responsibility as well. You can’t spot Kershaw 2 runs, one on a grounder he should have fielded.
Jansen is filthy, no sin going down swinging, but Beltran is used to the Howard Syndrome- I’m surprised Loo hasn’t brought it up- he took strike 3 with the bases loaded to end game 7 of the 2006 NLCS.”
“Kershaw gave up a bomb to fucking Stewie. He almost blew the game himself. Shit happens.”
You just made MY point, Chuuckles. Kershaw is going to be the CY winner and he masde a dumbfuck mistake- and then nearly lost the game with more dumbfuck mistakes…
The Giants are the last or near last in virtually all material offensive stats in MLB. SF has more holes than swiss cheese in the position player lineup going into the offseason, Franchez and Posey are total unknowns at this point about how they’ll fare next season after huge injuries. Panda’s probably going to have shoulder surgery in the offseason for an unannounced injury. So let’s dissect Lincecum’s fielding and inability to beat LA when he’s gotten 1 or zero runs support in every game. Sweet. Every other MLB GM would give his left nut to have Lincecum. Check that. Both nuts and $20 million per…
Keep your nuts Snarkk!
The original comment that got Snarkkles all het up was that Tim had *some* responsibility. It was true then, true now, and will forever be true. It was never said that he was the main reason, I’ve always said he’s a great pitcher, I’ve only pointed out that he’s not God. Snarrk, as usual, fabricates much of the opposing opinion.
You’ve gone psycho over much less, Mike.
And you still said he should have fielded a tough grounder. Your point, not mine.
Timmy’s an above average fielder at his position. He didn’t make an error on the play. Calling him out on that was wrong.
Bit if it’s that important, fine. You win. Timmy fucked up wildly in the loss yesterday. No hits, no errors, but damn, he should have done more.
That’s not what I said, stop being a fucking liar. I said he shared some responsibility for the loss. And he did. And I’ve pointed out that many others did as well. Why aren’t you defending Pablo? Why are mistakes by other fine players noteworthy but not Tim’s? Beltran is hitting .431 this month, does that mean his strike out was OK? You’re a hypocrite, Chuckles. And the fact that it wasn’t an error on the grounder doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have fielded it.
So let’s get it straight then- because Tim is a fine pitcher, he is immune from criticism. But Sandoval, for instance, isn’t.
Great movie!
If I had to pick one goat from last night it’s Beltran. I still don’t believe it. I can’t remember if he swung at all during the AB in which he went down looking in the 2006 NLCS. I also can’t remember if Howard took any cuts during that AB last year. All I know is Carlos looked at 4 swingable pitches in a huge spot and depending on what happens in the next week, that AB will likely be our most enduring memory of him…
Beltran is hitting .431 this month, he has 4 HR 12 RBI 1.248 OPS this month… how can he be criticized for one strike out? Why is that mistake more egregious than giving up a home run?
How many motherfucking times does it have to be said that there were ,AS ALWAYS, plenty of mistakes that contributed to the loss? Anyone objecting to the notion that Lassie’s pal may have made one, is either a mental deficient or smoking Tim’s pole. This was no BFD until Snarkkles and Chuckles blew it way out proportion. mainly with distortion and fabrications about what I’ve posted previously. There were maybe 20 or so errors of some kind in last night’s game, Tim made two of them. Fact. It doesn’t make him a bad person or a less than great pitcher, it makes him human. Sorry.
Whatever, Mike. You were, are, and always will be the arbiter of whatever blows up yer skirt.
Crucify others for posting some flip comment you don’t agree with and roast them for days.
But when someone calls you out on something, you get all defensive and hurt and you piss and moan about the unfairness of it all.
Nitey night . . .
You called him skippy on an earlier post.
Chuckles, it may irk you, but I always know what I’m talking about and with our posts… always right. It’s pretty hard not to mock a moron who thinks lgRF9 means Nate played LF. If you didn’t act like you knew shit, you’d be an amusing goober..
If you weren’t such a condescending asshole, you might be mistaken for a human being.
Go fuck yourself, Mike.
OK- tonight IS must win now, which means if we get 9, don’t give up more than 8. If we get 1- shut ’em out. That’s what coming up big means if you’re a pitcher. Jack Morris, ’91 WS- came up big. Tim last night- came up medium large.
Chuck yells out a loud BLEEP and shocks the neighbors! Police are notified promptly.
I was thinking it would be good to get more young guys in there who, not knowing Eveland’s mediocrity, won’t try to overdo it. Zen Master Boche apparently concurs: Christian CF, Keppinger 2B, Beltran RF, Pill 1B, Belt LF, DeRosa 3B, Fontenot SS, Stewart C, Vogelsong P.
The only real diff from last night is Belt for Torres and Font for Cabrera
An article about the Giants:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-brown_giants_time_running_out_defending_champs_092111
Okay lets play the young guys…..oh Bochy is already doing just that!
Font at SS. Oh, goody…
Seeing AZ’s magic [they have no right to that word] number down to 2 is a rude splash of ice cold water at 6 a.m. Its brand? REALITY.
We are hanging by our fingertips at the edge of the ledge.
But we’ll be just fine and heroically hoist ourselves up through the threshold — unless someone steps on our fingers.
Oh, SDG, lift us free!
SDG? San Diego???
Get with the program and out of Vegas, bro: S.D.G. = Sun Dressed Goddess. Throw a hyphen in there for grammar purists, but that’s the only thing pure about that fantasy.
Maybe Vogelsong and Bumgarner will come up big and keep it alive…
At least some good news. They found Billy the homeless guy in LA, he’s OK — but living on the streets. Asked for comment on the weeks he’s been gone since last seen at ATT, he said: “Dammit, play Crawford!”….
Obviously, he’s suffered permanent brain damage. His first words were “how ’bout dem Cowboys?”
while I don’t feel timmy’s start was ant-small, he did put the team in a hole early on. I’m going to get railed for this, but it was a little Zito-esque from the standpoint of giving up the early runs. Then the pressure came off a little and he settled down for the rest of the game. But the damage WAS done early. You give up 2 early in a Kershaw start and your team has lost all momentum. Tim’s job was to throw up zeros longer than Kershaw. That’s what ace vs ace looks like. So the more that I think about it, yeah, Timmy came up ant-small last night at the most critical time.
And my emphasis from the last post is “ace vs ace”. That’s like a heavy weight title fight. You start off throwing up zeros and you do that, if you can, longer than the other ace. As I said, Timmy was pretty shitty in the first 2 innings. That’s like getting knocked down twice in the first 2 rounds. So yeah, it wasn’t “Spinks-esque” since he carried on and righted the ship. But a game of ace vs ace can be lost early and that’s what Timmy did last night: he lost early.
Zito-esque? Come on. It’s not like he gave up eu sinning after inning and went 4&1/3 before getting yanked with the club down 8-0. Although that 2 spot did seem insurmountable
Meant runs inning after inning. Dang iPad.
I disagree. It was Zito-esque in terms of the early runs. The number over zero is what’s important when ytou’re facing a guy like Kershaw. Ace V ace isn’t like ZIto V Jack Shithead. You have to go zero for zeros. That’s what aces do when they face each other. He sucked dick the first 2 innings. That’s where we got beat….
In other baseball news, Schulman: “LA Times says McCourt turned down $1.2 billion offer partially financed by China.”
… but will he make payroll for next month?
that’s insane. There’s something ulterior going on, who turns down 1.2 billion? I’m assuming Selig had something to say about this…
Kershaw has won the games that Timmy used to. Say what you will about the offeense, that was expected to be a 2-1 game for good reason-this wasn’t Esmeralda Rogers. In the 55+ years I’ve watched baseball, the match up of aces was alway looked forward to-and we expected a game like last night’s. If Bob Friend, Vern Law, or later Pascual, Kaat- if they gave up a dinger and got beat 1-0, the other guy was better.Period. Blame the G’s if they don’t hit Esmeralda, or Eveland tonight- but Kershaw? Put up zeros Tim, or be ready to lose.
Pill produces. His status as a “non-prospect” has been suffering significant slippage since his initial callup. He will get a lonnnng look during the offseason.
Sabean didn’t like him, Bochy seems to. We’ll see. We know they’ll open the season with Huff at first. He’d probably have to make it as an Ishi type..
what ever happened to our ring-bearing friend Ishi?
He got injured in AAA and is out for the season.
Font? Oh goody..
Three runs in their first inning, first game A.K. Maybe things are back to the September norm.
I like that. Kind of clever.
But:
Game 1 A.K.
or
Game 10 A.S.D.G.
Mr. Nuts . . . Uhh, I mean Mr. Kokonuts – ok, I am with the “program” now, but am wondering what the “A.” stands for in the Sun Dressed Goddess acronym?
Game 10 After….
Presumably Stix’s A.K. is After Kershaw?
Keppinger devolves from bad lately to horseshit tonight. Some managers would sit him now, move Font to second and Crawford at SS.
Some dumb managers would do that. Now if you mean one game, OK.
“Some managers would sit him now, move Font to second and Crawford at SS.”
Actually, I was thinking of Mad Magazine’s “Scenes We Would Like To See.”
Bochy calls all 3 into his office and grabs the .38 in his desk drawer and shoots all 3. Lineup dilemma resolved.
I think Kepp is hurt. He banged his hand or wrist or something against a first baseman about 3 weeks ago. Shit ever since….
Sounds like one of my Fantasy League teams . . . Sandoval, Holliday, Konerko, and Cabrera (one of the good ones, i.e., Asdrubal) all out with aches and pains.
Flav, I am kicking myself for sitting B. McCarthy tonight against the Rangers . . . Doing much better than his last two starts against them. Bye bye FL points. Pfffft!
That’s how tough it’s been for the Giants this season. Even the guys replacing the injured guys get injured.
in Atlanta, I think; dreadful series
Crawford is becoming the new Nate…his cult might be even more fervent, he’s a good looking kid. You might sit Kepp a day, that’s it.
i am ashamed to say how much I forgot about Nate. I have a fear he could be permanently messed up for having played injured when he should not have.
Man, that family had approximately 9 million calories on their little table.
A bit of Christian charity is always welcome.
I have a strong, snap-necking Knowing Dude Head Nod going right now. Blast the fuck out of Eveland. It was a joke that I had to sit in the stands and watch my team quietly be dominated by him 2 Saturday’s ago. He’s the fringe-i-est major league pitcher around…..
Nailed it!
I nod to it.
where’s Loo?
How many of the rest of you guys have done exactly that work on cars over the years? Just wondering.
Good thing about the years toiling in Japan and the Minors before the Giants took a flyer on him this Spring was that Vogelsong learned to pitch. The last inning was instructive. Though he gave up a couple singles in the process, Ryan bore down and got Ellis for the third out. Inning over. Quality start. He is a highly mature Major League pitcher and the organization should reward his sterling efforts with a nice salary for next year and an incentive-laden team-option contract for a second year.
WTF happened to the comeback stories in Room B? They were good.
Twin has remodeled B and its been spectacular. It’s a better space than my blog by a mile.
I can’t save the old threads. I’ll try to come up with another good topic.
The baseball gods just have to punish you if you hit the guy who’s ‘0 for 34.’
The good ole rally killing three run dinger. Let’s get a couple and turn it over to the pen
Bochy asked Vogelsong after the 5th if he’s still good for the 6th. Vogelsong replied:”Where I hail from, we don’t cotton to folks what cotton to other folks’ gals that don’t cotton to folks that cotton to them. That’s cotton talk, see?” To which Bochy replied “Oh Mota!!”
Ted, check out the essay on SofP here:
http://www.pseudopodium.org/search.cgi?usersearch=son+of+paleface
scroll down the page a bit, it’s series of blog posts.
Beautiful, James, beautiful. Thanks. In case you miss this I’ll write it below as well
With the righty going tomorrow, Bochy probably *will* give Kepp a rest and go with Crawford and “Oh Goody” Fontenot.
Beltran out with a right foot contusion from a 3rd inning AB. Way to hang for the team, dude. Pablo has body parts falling off of him. As skilled as Beltran is, I’m tired of his attitude and effort.
Huh. Odd time to question Beltran. Yeah. he’s been a total fucking slacker
Coors. The “banquet” beer.
Uhm…yeah. Banquet always comes to mind when I think of Coors
I’ll keep calling the Font “Goody” as long as he drives in a coupla runs.
I luv how Pill keeps pounding the pill, showing up Sabes who dissed him big time in the media before Pill got here. I’ve seen enough of Pill to think he’s got a real shot to make the 25 next season. The guy has real tenacity and a good eye at the plate…
Well, the dissing couldn’t have been all that “big time,” because I don’t even remember it, and I check the Bay Area sports news just about every day.
You don’t remember it, so it didn’t happen?. Only a singles hitter, said the Sabes. Look it up in the Baggs or Schulman archives. It wasn’t a total diss. The knee jerk Sabes protection here is getting a little deep…..
Meaning it WAS a total diss. A GM dissing his minor league guy before he comes up is crap management IMO…
8/30/11 extra baggs:
Sabean didn’t need to say these things about Pill. A clear diss of the guy, and Pill has proven Sabean totally out to lunch on it.
Pill is the most interesting question. He’s 27 and not a true prospect, but his 24 homers and 104 RBIs at Fresno are impossible to ignore. Sabean said it’s a matter of getting him on the roster. Would they DFA Miguel Tejada? It’s an interesting question. For now, the idea of adding Pill “has been discussed,” Sabean said. “We’ve got a couple days to figure it out. He’s had a nice year statistically. I think he’s got a base-hit swing. But how much damage within that swing he could provide, I’m not sure. If we all were sold with any of those guys, they’d already have been up here trying to help us.”
Did the quote only appear in ExtraBaggs? I don’t read ExtraBaggs regularly.
Then as a Giants fan, I guess you don’t really “check the Bay Area sports news just about every day”….
I used myself as an example of someone who reads the Chronicle sports section everyday. What percentage of Giants fans know about the “big time” diss of Pill that you’re talking about? Less than 5%? Less than 1%? Less than .001%?
You telling me only .001% of Giants fans read extrabaggs? Okayyyyyy….
You come on here daily, but don’t read Baggarly? There’s more daily info on the Giants in his blog than anywhere else. Whatever…
Well, math isn’t my specialty, so…..how many Giants fans are there in the U.S.? Hundreds of thousands? A few million? How many read ExtraBaggs daily? A few thousand? Just estimating. It would be interesting to know.
I did buy Baggs’ book, and have it on my Kindle. It’s a good book.
Pill walked 25 times in Fresno. Sabes will likely be proven right on him — if so, let’s hope it’s next year.
As I said, his best shot is probably the role Ishikawa had last year… the guy wasn’t highly rated by anyone. Sometimes an aging guy like Pill proves everybody wrong. Not often, but it happens. I’m sure that Sabean would be happy to be proven wrong.
Krup and Kuip. Full of shit again. About DeRosa.
K: “And we thought his career was over”
K:”Heck, *he* thought his career was over”
No he DIDN’T.
He kept saying he totally WAS NOT through.
Guess it makes good…conversation….something…bullshit
Krukow just makes stuff up sometimes. The other day he was talking about the situation where the umpire gives the batter a timeout real late, as the pitcher starts his windup and the pitcher jerks to a halt. Krukow said: “I’ve seen pitchers get hurt doing that.” Hmmm. I’m suspicious of that plural. Maybe he saw a pitcher get hurt doing that; but…..pitchers. Hmmm….
Good point zum
He makes stuff up on the fly all the time. His pronouncements on an umpire’s shifting tendencies over the course of a game, as if he’s revealing longstanding, well-observed patterns are the most glaring example.
It’s a talent that serves him well in making up stories about the people in the crowd. (grin)
Perhaps uncalled for but…Ramirez makes me nervous. But…I’m good so far
James, in case you missed my comment above, thanks for the link. Hope’s one of my comedy heroes. Thanks again
Sure, Ted. Gotta give some props to Tashlin, too.
Granted. Tashlin’s one of the greats. But it was Hope’s delivery
Mudbug time!
I have no idea what that means but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it
It’s not happening here, but what’s the protocol for using a middle reliever in a non-hold situation?
I have no idea what that means but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it
This must be the quote about Pill: “He’s had a nice year statistically. I think he’s got a base-hit swing. But how much damage within that swing he could provide, I’m not sure. If we all were sold with any of those guys, they’d already have been up here trying to help us.” Sabean basically said he wasn’t sure. And they had given Huff a big contract already, and they had advanced Belt ahead of Pill. So, maybe Sabean misjudged Pill. He wasn’t sure if he had the real deal, or a Bowker. It’s not easy judging a guy by AAA stats. We all know that. It’s not knee-jerk defending of Sabean. It’s just being reasonable and fair. Snarkk, if you want to second-guess Sabean about Pill, then second-guess away. Just let us know how many times you’re going to mention it this off-season. 50? 100? 1000?
Ah, I see you posted the quote above.
Defend Sabean all you want on this. He has a habit of bad mouthing his minor leaguers. Did it with Posey, too. If you think they have limitations, keep it to yourself and the minor league staff. Not a great way to instill confidence in your players…
I don’t know that I’m “defending” Sabean. Ultimately the GM has to wear the won/loss record. It goes with the job. I’m just not into pounding him relentlessly, especially after winning the World Series. He gave Huff a totally reasonble 22 million dollar two-year deal, and that’s the way it goes. There was no way to know Huff would have a bad season all season. They were hoping he would get it together, for this season AND next season.
Snarkk had no problem with the Huff contract. Huff won’t get a lot of rope next year, but he’ll open as the first baseman.
Why bring up Huff, I was talking about minor leaguers being dissed.
I was down with signing Huff. It didn’t work. He was out of shape all season, and sucked. Bummer. He needs to get in shape this offseason, and make it happen next year right out of the box, or ride pine or get traded…
There’s absolutely no evidence that Huff was out of shape. He’s a slow runner, but that doesn’t mean he’s out of shape.
Huff runs first to third and can barely get his breath standing at third. He puts hands on knees, needs a damn oxygen mask. He is clearly out of shape. Maybe he has a back problem they’re keeping quiet, but that doesn’t explain the oxygen debt on routine running. Other players go first to third, they don’t need a gurney to recover…
Why are Olympic sprinters out of breath at the end of their sprints? Because they’re out of shape? No, it’s because they are running as fast as they can. Huff is slow, and when he runs as fast as he can, he gets out of breath. I’m not saying he’s in sprinter shape, obviously, but to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges- is he out of shape for a guy that plays firstbase on a major league baseball team? I don’t think so.
Maybe if Huff stopped firing up so many butts he would open up some lung space for air when rounding the bags…
So you’ve got evidence that he’s a smoker.
You don’t read much about the Giants do you? Use Google, you’ll find it…
Cy Young? Sorry.
Belongs to this mofo…Romo
And his numbers, talent and attitude back it up.
Fuck. I luv that guy!!
Looks like the wildcard will be our best shot…. despite two teams being ahead of us…
And our thanks to the dude that gets to hang out with all the Vietnamese hotties for his grasp of the obvious
😉
“Grasp” being the key word. Hopefully
Yes, Ted, you’ve, ahem, nailed the grasping bit perfectly well….
Currently dating a Nguyen myself. My honor, admiration, stamina and jealousy for thy…Viet-smorgesborg
Romo with 65 Ks in 46 innings. He has really amped up his repertoire. Better fball control, tighter slider. MLBtraderumors says he’s arb eligible this winter, so he’ll get a big bump for 2012, maybe sign a two year deal…..
I cling to the hope that one day when Romo does his overly animated skyward gesture he uses his middle finger. “That’s right, it’s *my* fucking slider they can’t hit!”