Friday!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 17, 2015

Managed to sleep in till 3:00 this morning. Looks like it rained like hell last night but the course is drying out and we’ve got golf! Who’s with me on starting an Open Blog?

But for those who don’t give a shit about this, we have baseball again. Cain in the desert. I’d like to think we could hit this Ray-guy. Ray Guy. Hell of a punter.

Now, back to my golf……

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wilcojoe said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:15 am

I remember about ten years ago this weekend, we held a Holdem tournament at my house that ended up finishing around 3 in the morning. After everyone left, I proceeded to watch the entire final round from start to finish. I regretted that on Monday morning.
wilcojoe said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:27 am

One of the highlights for me is listening to Peter Alliss when he comes over from the BBC booth. He is the Vin Scully of Golf for you non-golfers. 84 years young and one of golfs great storytellers. I could listen to that voice all day long.
Bozo said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:40 am

I never graduated from miniature golf, so I’ll pass on the Open, but y’all have fun.

For you flappers jonesing for a bit of baseball, this photo from 1954 should get you even more fired up. Although if you’re a CFer, it might make you think about becoming an Infielder.

http://tinyurl.com/ph7d7n5
- Lurker John said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:10 am
  
  That is a great baseball picture. Having the fans in the shot makes the photo.
  - Bozo said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:30 am
    
    Agreed Lurker, I’m also blown away that he’s not looking at the ball, had it all the way I’d guess.
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:21 am
  
  Awesome photo…very cool. Thanks for sharing. There will never be another like the “Say Hey Kid.”
- xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:19 am
  
  I can see why that photo’s part of an African American Heritage series. Terrific pic of Mays and the integrated crowd cheering him on. Reminds me of the opening chapter of Underworld, where a black kid playing hooky in the LF bleachers grabs Bobby Thomson’s HR ball, and holds on even when a white man tries to wrest it away. Monte Irvin hit HR in that game, too, I think.
- unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 12:29 pm
  
  If that’s the Polo Grounds, then Mays caught that ball 495′ from home pate. Amazing.
  
  And people scoff at AT&T! That has to be the longest out in history.
  - xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm
    
    I thought the Polo Grounds had a hitters’ back drop in straightaway CF and no bleachers there. May this shot is Ebbets? http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/PoloGrounds.htm
  - xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 12:58 pm
    
    I meant, maybe this shot Bozo shared might be Ebbets.
  - xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 1:36 pm
    
    yeah, now that I think about it–the NY Giants had “Giants” across their home unis and “New York” across the greys. I believe. Although the great old b/w photo isn’t conclusive on the color.
  - Bozo said, on July 17, 2015 at 1:43 pm
    
    I’m not sure where the shot was taken. I got it from the African Heritage City FB site. They do credit the photo to Charles Hoff/NY Daily News, I don’t think it’s the Polo Grounds so Xoot might be right about Ebbets field.
    No matter, that is just one hell of a catch.
chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:57 am

Golf. At 3 A.M. Only in my wildest nightmare. Bring on some baseball. Interesting shuffle on the rotation by Boch. The two main driving points were keeping Peavy and Hudson apart, as their games are so similar, and giving Madison a few extra days of rest.

Hoping to see The Horse pitch a gem tonight. Let’s get the 2nd half off on a good foot.
blade3colorado said, on July 17, 2015 at 7:16 am

Excellent MLB dot com evaluation of the Giants first half and what’s needed for us to return to the World Series. Not ragging on Belt, but what Chi, Flavor and I have said about Belt’s lack of consistency, has credence (as this report indicates). Yeah, he has been “adequate,” but Belt is a big key for us in the 2nd half and he needs to be more consistent.

http://m.giants.mlb.com/news/article/136677874
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:11 am
  
  Hey, take it easy on Belt. He IS consistent. Consistently inconsistent! 😉
- James said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:14 am
  
  Why not just say Belt needs or you want him to be better than an 833 OPS hitter? The “inconsistency” label is usually just code for some subjective displeasure with a player that has nothing to do with his actual contribution.
  - dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:22 am
    
    He needs to stop slumping his shoulders. Then he will seem more consistent.
  - Lurker John said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:24 am
    
    Tell it to Chris Haft. He seems to agree with blade and chi on the matter. His fancy numbers need to translate into include more runs driven in, not just total bases and walks.
  - James said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:42 am
    
    John, re-read what I’m saying. If you think he needs to do better in some area, have at it. I think you’re wrong about that, but no matter. My objection is to the adjective.
  - chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:57 am
    
    Think what you want, James…we all have our opinions. I think he is inconsistent. My opinion. And when talking individual opinions…they are ALL subjective.
    
    Lifetime OPS is .799. Doesn’t matter…he “averages,” over his career, 17 HRs and 66 RBIs a year (and if this translates to a higher OPS, the okay…I want Belt to increase his OPS). Happy? As I said, I would like to see the RBI total go up, and the HRs, too. But if he hit 15 or so bombs and drove in 80 RBIs, I can live with that.
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:28 am

Yeah I roll with golf anytime BF.
That ST.Andrews course is beautiful it’s actually green compared to the dried out cow pastures they do in the rotation over their like Carnoustie(sp)
Muriel’s. And that town I could definitely hang out at with numerous pubs pouring the big boy pints of Guiness and several others along with of course Jamison Whiskey& of course several fine Scotch’s.
112 freaking pot bunkers that look like the beach of Normady which I would never get out of is fun to watch when the pros are in it!!
willedav said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:53 am

“Adequate” must have hurt Belt haters to actually admit even that.
Haft really is haft baked.
James is right: what is it the haters want? 30 HRs/100 rbis? Aint happening at ATT for LH not named Bonds.
If that is your be all end all, for 1b, good luck finding someone to put up Willie Mac (HOF) numbers.
Don’t forget that Belt is making a fraction of what AGon Votto and Golds are making. And that Golds happens to be one of the best players in all of baseball.

Rbis, lol. OPS happen to be single most determinant factor for how many runs a team scores,much more than rbis. So individuals with high numbers in that category are doing a lot to help their team score runs, pretty imp if you want win games. Like others on SF, Belt also adds quality D when he is at 1b.

Consistency? Pls, ALL hitters have ups and downs. Crawford hit .217 month of June. Pagan got off to great start and immediately cratered. Posey finished last year hitting .390 in Sept and Pence Sando et al had crummy months at either start or end of last season–when oh by the way they won it all. Irrelevant.
Susac had a great June and then went 2-26 before Sunday.

Relax and enjoy baseball…Giants are who they are, “warts and all” as Twin eloquently put it.
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:00 am
  
  See my comment above to James. I stand by my opinion.
- Lurker John said, on July 17, 2015 at 1:44 pm
  
  Yes, 30 HR’s and 100 RBI would be outstanding. So would 20-25 and 80. He’ll be hard-pressed to come anywhere near those figures this year. He’s right on pace for his career averages. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect numbers like that from Belt. OPS numbers can be inflated by taking a good amount of walks and hitting with no one on. I don’t hate Belt at all, I just expect more from him. I’m pretty sure the Giants do too. Matt Duffy is kicking his ass right now in his first full year.
  
  Willie, it’s condescending to make comments like “all hitters have ups and downs” to a community full of hard-core baseball fans. Irrelevant? We’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.
  
  If Belt comes back and has a great “second half” I’ll be the first one to praise him and eat crow. It’s not about hating, it’s about rightly expecting the most from guys who have the most to give.
  - blade3colorado said, on July 17, 2015 at 4:00 pm
    
    Good post.
ewisco said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:32 am

time to check the goals at the break:

play around .500 – 46-43 three games over. check

Stay close to the leader – 4.5 back. check

get hot – most of the injured players have returned or are returning. Cain looking decent and could be really good. Peavy looking not bad, Pence needs to make sure he doesn’t reinjure that wrist. but all the ingredients to get hot and a brutal august schedule could really make or break that.

get in – TBD but knocking on the door. the division far from settled and in good shape for a WC.

get deep – TBD

all in all, a very optimal start with nothing really glaring. yes, potential problems with the BP, maybe the starters aren’t overall good enough, maybe the hitting isn’t going to be good enough but I don’t think you can look at the team as currently constructed and say, “they can’t do it” or “it would take a miracle”. they really just need to perform to capability. You add a chapman or parra to the mix and they look pretty damn solid.

so we’ll see. which is really what I want. a chance. a reason to watch every game. something to engage me for the next 3 months. It’s good to be us.
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:22 am
  
  Good synopsis. I agree on adding a Chapman or Parra, and on giving me a reason to watch every game (I would watch anyway…WTF, it IS Giants baseball 😉 ).
  - Lurker John said, on July 17, 2015 at 1:46 pm
    
    Aroldis Chapman? Oh hell yes, in a New York minute. I don’t what it’d cost, but he’d be a great addition. Parra, too.
blade3colorado said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:38 am

Willie, Belt overcame a slow April to have a solid first half. No doubt about that. What Haft and others are saying basically, is maintain what he is doing now throughout the entire season . . . especially during the playoff drive of September.

To say anyone “hates” Belt or anyone else is not true. Also, when you indicate Haft is “haft baked,” then it follows that you think all Flappers whom disagree with you are half (or haft) baked as well. Your opinion is just as valid as mine, Chi’s or anyone else here. More important, the argument that Belt has something to prove . . . Just as your argument, that Belt is playing outstanding baseball – are both valid points. Neither point can be unequivocally disproved (although, you, James, Chi, myself, or someone else can try).

🙂
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:24 am
  
  Well put, Blade. I agree whole-heartedly. Now fucking trade Belt! JK. 😉
Bozo said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:25 am

I don’t feel like diving head first into the whole Belt argument and I wish he would hit better with two strikes, but I’ve come to really like the guy.
All those years batting 6th probably didn’t help his career RBI totals but I think batting 5th will be good for him stat wise. I also think not playing LF would help his numbers a whole bunch (2015 OPS – 1B .877, LF .499, career – 1B .814, LF .662).
His career Home and Away splits for extra base hits really does show how the Park changes him from a HR guy to a Double/Triple guy, but still the total EBHs is pretty even.

Home – 2B 58, 3B 10, HR 17, total EBH 85
Away – 2B 46, 3B 4, HR 37, total EBH 87

So while we have him, I say bat him 5th, don’t play him in the OF (unless there isn’t anyone else) and watch those size 15 clown shoes speed around the bases at Pac Bell (he can just lope around the bases at the other fields).
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:25 am
  
  Good numbers John. Thanks for sharing.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:34 am

There’s a lot to like about Belt, but I ‘d like to see him become “scarier” to the other teams. Pence and Posey will get better pitches then. I think teams still don ‘t mind pitching to Belt, in general. Sometimes they go right at him with fastballs and strike him out on pitches that seem pretty fat. It’s a chain-reaction thing: scarier Belt means better things for Posey and Pence, too. Belt looks scary in brief streaks; that’s the need for consistency.
blade3colorado said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:53 am

Good news! Per Rotowire . . .

UPDATE: Aoki (leg) will run and take batting practice Thursday for the first time since being placed on the disabled list, Alex Pavlovic of CSN Bay Area reports.

ANALYSIS: Aoki still remains without a timetable, but the combination of Thursday’s on-field work and Saturday’s scheduled CT scan should give owners a clearer picture of a potential return date. Manager Bruce Bochy told reporters that Aoki made good progress over the break as well, but it will likely be a few days before the Giants provide a more definitive timetable for Aoki’s return to action.
- chipower9 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:27 am
  
  Hoping like hell that he lights it up when he returns. Dude was killing it prior to getting hit. We need that mojo in the 2nd half.
  - alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:35 am
    
    Definitely Chi,
    Aoki’s been solid all-year and provided many a spark, while sputtering Pagan has not.
    But fortunately for you, he will con Boch into keep playing ,and you’ll win your bet with Kevin😀
blade3colorado said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:41 am

AK, Pagan has picked it up in his last 3 games, going 7 for 15, 4 RBI, 4 Runs, and 2 doubles.
- dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:50 am
  
  I don’t know, blade. Seems like Pagan has been inconsistent this year. 🙂
  
  If you look at his splits, Pagan has typically started and ended strong with dips in May and June. He’s under performed in July this year but as you say I think he is starting to pick it up. I’ve been more worried about his defense. He’s never been a good route runner but he’s just looked really bad at times.
  - blade3colorado said, on July 17, 2015 at 12:13 pm
    
    Absolutely Dirt. I should have added, that Pagan will need to continue his mini hitting streak into the 2nd half. All hands are going to be needed or forget about the playoffs, much less the World Series. In fact, David Schoenfield of ESPN is correct when he says this about the Giants chances in the 2nd half:
    
    “Prediction: The advantage the Giants have over the Cubs is that the Cubs have to play both the Cardinals and Pirates (21 more games against those two clubs), while the Giants have just the Dodgers in their own division (nine games remaining). On the other hand, the Giants are just 13-19 against the Diamondbacks, Rockies and Padres. If the Giants get just a little more from their rotation, they’ll be back in the wild-card game, with a possible rematch against the Pirates. For what it’s worth, FanGraphs likes the Cubs a lot more: 58 percent chance to win a wild card versus 17 percent for the Giants.”
  - dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm
    
    I think the club is going to be hard pressed to get into the post season. That said, the best route is taking the division which is totally doable imo. Play winning baseball, apply pressure in the standings and watch the dodgers fold.
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm

Well, all the Giants need to do is beat the teams they should beat. All this talk of averages is just that. Talk. The bats do go dormant for long stretches. As we saw on that recent roadie. And they get hot at times. That’s why they call them averages. Does that define inconsistency? I’ll leave that to James. but I think it does. Yeah we have injuries, but mainly the problem is losing to shitty teams like AZ, Colo and even the Marlins. Those teams suck for a reason, but we can’t seem to capitalize. Glad to see us murder the Phils, but they have to keep that shit up and not lag against the bad teams.

I’m sick and tired of all the ‘we suck against team x in ballpark x.’ Go beat the teams that are also-rans already. We have the D-Bags, the A’s, the Pads, the Rangers among the next bunch of teams. Time to get on a roll. After that, we have a raft of tough teams. Time to make hay now.

And I also stand by my contention that numbers don’t tell the whole tale. There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics. Being a corner infielder is a position that should have solid production. Belt is close. But he is the model of inconsistency.

Any work on Aoki?
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 1:10 pm
  
  Check the verse- Blade 10:53.
- alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 2:49 pm
  
  Bravo Chuck that was a good rant and I’m with you my man.The Giants get on a roll winning with timely hits and great pitching,to cut the Dogpile lead to a game, then just can’t the mojo going and drop what 7/8 games in a row starting with the 3 in Miami ferchrissakes, totally unacceptable.
  Of course if the 49ers beat the lowlife teams often enough last year even with all their turmoil they would have been in the playoffs.
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 1:41 pm

Thanks, Zumie. Missed that…..

As I said, we need a fast start to this 2nd half. The easier part of the sched is now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68MlGo_INnc
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 4:21 pm
  
  Awesome song!!
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 4:24 pm

Dodger/Nat game is on MLB Network in a lot of areas.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:10 pm

I’ve said it before: I’m not a Costas fan.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:11 pm

Stadium malfunction in Wash.
Carstie Clausen said, on July 17, 2015 at 6:59 pm

Sure and Bochy will go to the Hall of Fame. But i still do not care for his treatment of Belt. Tonight, the dude bats 7th ~in front of Maxwell and Cain. He should be hitting 3rd. His OPS is considerably higher than that of Duffy ~ though the Duffster is ahead of him in RBI’s. Logic will tell ya that you want high OBP guys in the top of the lineup and your better RBI men deeper down. Compare the stats between the two of them. #9’s forte is getting on base and XBH’s. He’s not the power guy they tried to make him into ~ at least not in Phonebill park.

Personally, my take is that this mistreatment of Belt will make him a quiet candidate for a trade. Would hate to see that unless the payback is HUGE. In a park like Houston or Cincinnati he could easily become a 35 HR, 110 RBI man ~ even batting in the 3-hole. Somehow Bochy is hung up on his inconsistency. Perhaps the inconsistency has something to do with the way he has been treated.
- xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 7:35 pm
  
  With Votto at 1B I don’t see the Reds being interested in Belt. On the other, I can see the Giants being interested in Aroldis Chapman, who is still controlled next year (although arb eligible, and due a raise). With Casilla going into a 2012-style fade, why not go all in for Chapman for 2 years?
  - xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 7:45 pm
    
    Susac, Beede and Arroyo?
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 7:03 pm

Cainer was fortunate it was only one run.
Bozo said, on July 17, 2015 at 7:09 pm

WTG Craw.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:17 pm

Where did y’all go? .. no posts in over an hour during a game … seems strange … come on guys, I need my fix of flap!
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:39 pm

I’m on fucking Bart coming home from work. I don’t be know the score.
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:42 pm
  
  Condolences Chuck. You ain’t missing thing … Probably best you don’t watch.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:39 pm

Yay … we score another run! Of course, it was only because of a fuck up by the other team …
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:41 pm
  
  How many runs have we scored this year from third base on wild pitches? Quite a few a I think.
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:40 pm

Phone typing on Bart a recipe for autocorrect fun…..
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:43 pm
  
  Top of 6th, 4-2 snakes
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:44 pm

Shit 4-2 d bags? Why can’t we beat this team? Fuckity fuck.
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:53 pm
  
  Well Chuck how can we expect to win when we have to face stalwarts of the game such Christ Owings (clobbering his mindboggling third … count ’em … 3rd! Homer of the season!!)’and the magnificence of Cy young incarnate himself Robbie Raygun ?!? .. it just ain’t fair Chuck, it ain’t fair!
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:47 pm

I always regretted not living in the time of the Babe & Cy Young … but when we play the snakes (and numerous other teams with their nobody SP fuckers and shit sucking no hittin muthas) I get to experience a sense of what it must have been like to “compete” (I use the term loosely) against those true ‘Giants’ of the game.
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:54 pm

If this is what we get from Cain the rest of the year for $20 million, then that ain’t cool…
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:01 pm
  
  I wonder how much $ that ends up being per pitch … I think someone here posted awhile back that Lopez was on track to average something like $30K per pitch … or maybe it was per inning .. I dunno, seems excessive.
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 8:57 pm

No shit. We are almost back to full strength on o. Got to win these fucki g games against the dog meat teams. Looks like yet another tough loss for Cain. 8 hits and 1 RBI thru 5???

Yeah Zumie, Sum beach is one of my fave MRI albums. Course Danny whiten was still alive.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:07 pm

Can we please find a way to clone Kontos?
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:08 pm

I’m not far from thinking this squad, as presently constituted, is not going to get into the playoffs. There are a number of teams that will probably contend for the WC spots. Cubs, Pirates, Mets, maybe even Dbacks on a flyer. I assume Sabean will make a move of some sort before the deadline. He’d better. This bench suxx, Maxwell in particular, and the Pen needs improvement. Machi is likely for the DFA line…
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:13 pm
  
  Amen!
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:12 pm

Machi: 18 pitches, 2 doubles one ER .. he’s gotta go!
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:15 pm

Another SP that cannot make it through 6 … wheels will be coming off the pen right quick … I already smell smoke.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:15 pm

Panik and Duffy are putting on a hitting clinic tonight. Some Flappers have said they think Panik will compete for batting titles someday, and I’m buying into that idea.
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:16 pm
  
  Like maybe even this year.
- snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:19 pm
  
  He’s got a flat swing, and a good eye. Patient. That spells hitter. Wade Boggsish?…
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:21 pm
  
  Yes Zum, I’m one of the proponents of that school of thought.
- alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:26 pm
  
  Yeah I mentioned Panik and batting titles before and the Wade Boggs approach, and that he never gives up an AB, which the greats never do.He will a few before it all said and done.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:18 pm

It’s hard to be confident about Cain making big progress. He looked good against the Mets, but they have a terrible offense.
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:20 pm

Pence — OVER the Fence~!…
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:21 pm
  
  Add Pence to the hitting clinic!
  
  Man, what a live yard this ballpark is.
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Hunter Pence smoking the Bomb!!
Nice comeback Giants!!!
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:22 pm

Thank freakin Christ!
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:29 pm

I was going to say now is when the Giants Pen needs to suck it up. But, Pagan is clearly laboring. Why not just DL the guy. WTF is wrong with his knees — they keep saying they’re bad. WTF is wrong with them?…
- alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:38 pm
  
  WTF was Peralta doing, thank you very much, that was the worse base running I’ve seen since that Giant ( I cant remember his name) was on Jon Miller’s laughable call.
  - djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:53 pm
    
    Ruben Rivera?
  - djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:54 pm
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:31 pm

Just got in, so I didn’t see how Cain got hit hard? Or not? But since I heard the dreaded word Machi pitched that just adds more fuel to the fire, guess we’re lucky to survive that.
Freakin Pagan sucks going after balls anymore!!!!!
- snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:38 pm
  
  Bunch of hard hit balls to the OF, over Pagan’s head, one HR, early on. He settled later, but threw a lot of pitches…
djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:34 pm

More little league base running…
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:40 pm

Osich can bring the heat, that’s for sure. I’d leave Osich in…
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm

I’ve said it before … I think there are great things in store for Panik & Duffy with this team; possibly, the stuff of legend. Just think, two players, simultaneously arrive outta the blue, that none thought would amount to much of anything … et voila, quelle surprise! We may not attain 4 in 6 but we may have an unforeseen consolation prize of immense proportions.
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:47 pm
  
  I would say the doubt was more for Duffy. Panik was a first round pick, and I think a lot of folks recognized the potential. Duffy was the bigger surprise.
  - Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:20 pm
    
    Yes, agreed … Yet, Panik was hardly considered a legit heir apparent to Scutaro … I seem to remember most prognosticators figuring him to still need much more lower level seasoning.
djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:46 pm

Blow ’em away, baby!
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:46 pm

Well now, that’s nice to have some Strickland heat. If he can keep that clutch pitching going, he’s got a chance to make a name for himself up in the Bigs…
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:47 pm

Nice from Osich and Strickland. The future is now.
djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:48 pm

We got a little heat of our own out there.
And the Chapman talk around here is nonsense.
We have nothing to give them (that we would part with).
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:50 pm
  
  Matt Cain!
  Kidding. Sort of.
  - Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:23 pm
    
    Hmm .. intriguing thought! Truly outside the box Zum … downright, avant garde.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:49 pm

I don’t know that Peralta’s baserunning was totally terrible. Doesn’t he have an obligation to keep the double-play from happening? His job is to distract, at least, but he did blow it by getting caught off the base.
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 9:58 pm

Srickland&Chapman and blow them away! Turn the Bat signal on Sabes/Evans!!
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:06 pm

The Mighty O-O-O is not a viable late-in-the-game pinch-hitter. That’s not going to work.
djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:12 pm

Too bad. Panik hit a fuckin’ rocket…
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:14 pm
  
  Yeah, that was just a bad break. The luck factor of baseball.
- xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:21 pm
  
  after seeing CUs and FBs and being ready for either, he was on it. He can hit. Meanwhile, Romo mows down to RHs as usual, but gets a LH too.
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:13 pm

Zumie,He’s on 3rd base with no outs.You don’t make the 1st out at 3rd period, And it looked like it was hit to slow to turn 2 as well. Crawdad just suckered Peralta into an out,And I’m pretty sure he will pay a fine in kangaroo court,Imo.
- zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:15 pm
  
  I disagree regarding the double-play. If he stays on third, they can turn two, IMO.
  - alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:27 pm
    
    We can agree to disagree.
    But let’s just say they turn 2, it still better to have a runner at 3rd with 2 outs then the bases empty, cause he was so dumb,maybe he stays at 3rd while their even turning 2..
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:21 pm

Yeah Ruben Rivera, nice work Loo.Still hilarious!
Loo,
Saw a Ted Williams baseball plaque on a wall that said:” I’ll have a Moxie” which at the time,I didn’t know it meant a carbonated drink..
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:27 pm

Hey! Tie score?
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:29 pm

Romo looked pretty goid last inning. One more would Be nice
xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:35 pm

and that’s why the LOOGY gets paid so well
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Trout beat Boston on a walk-off HR. He’s pretty good.
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Just a general fyi … last time Petit pitched was 7/10 when he threw total of 7 pitches.
djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Smart play with righty CF going to his left. Made all the difference…
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:47 pm

Wow. Gutsy play by Crawfish.
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:48 pm

A fail by Belt.
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 10:55 pm

You cannot leave a leadoff double out there without scoring in extras. That’s pathetic, all three hitters after. Belt has to move Crawford to third, even a bunt will do. Giants suck at these situations, and Bochy let’s it happen. Can’t Belt bunt? If he can, then Blanco’s roll over probably scores Craw, or maybe gets through a drawn in infield…
- Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:08 pm
  
  Giants risp 1 for 13
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:09 pm

Why do we suck so bad at this. Wtf?
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:09 pm

Such a smart player is Panik.
He knows the situation obviously better then Belt and gets the runner over..
alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:11 pm

Their crazy if they even pitch to Posey,.,
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:11 pm

OK, Panik gets the bunt down to move Pagan to third, then Duffy suddenly can’t even make contact, and takes a called strike 3 down the middle. WTF? Come on Buster. Let’s get this done. How many innings are we going to waste a leadoff double?… Come on Giants…
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:15 pm

Fuck wasting 2 lead off doubles is horseshit.
snarkk said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:17 pm

Oy.
Going to bed, g’nite Flappers…
Lisle Ellis said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:18 pm

Well, there you go … we’ve had our chances … if we lose this game … FUCK!
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:22 pm

Nice work from Vogey that inning. He was very sharp.
djloo27 said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:25 pm

Fuck! Another lead off hit…
xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:27 pm

this is one of those games–stick with it no matter what
zumiee said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:30 pm

I like the effort from Craw. Gamer!
unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:31 pm

AZ is trying to give it away. Why is belt chasing with one strike?
xoot said, on July 17, 2015 at 11:32 pm

what a great bunt