BeanTown BeatDown?
I actually think Suarez is going to do ok tonight. Boston likes to blast the ball out of the yard and that doesn’t really work at AT&T. Plus, they’re playing NL rules in an unfamiliar yard. I dunno, it just feels like he might not get blasted.
And who put this game on the schedule? Boston flies all the way out here for 2 interleague games? Then back to Minnesota? I bet they’re stoked about this trip. lulz.
It’s too bad Cleveland is doing well. I would have liked to have seen the Giants pick up Rajai Davis for 2 months.
Assuming they pick up a guy without a big contract, who are some of the names you’d like to see us look at? I’m on record as going with Carl Crawford just for the jokes on LA.
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In case anyone’s interested, I got my wrapup of the Giants series up today. Would have been yesterday, but WordPress ate the post when I was about 1700 words in.
http://www.cardsconclave.com/2016/06/07/giant-step-cardkind/
I feel for you. I would do long travel blog posts about my trips around the world and that happened at least 2-3 times easily. More susceptible when you don’t use the app on an Android tablet with portable keyboard. Ugh.
I’ll check it out.
That had to be terrible. Usually WP is good about backing things up but not yesterday, for whatever reason. I appreciate you heading over for a bit!
Very good post from the enemy camp (grin). Regarding your comments about Jarrett Parker’s home run – Yep, I had been advocating his bus trip to our Sacramento affiliate before that bomb . . . and yes, I was as surprised as Martinez when he hit it.
I read through the comments around here a lot this weekend and got the feeling Parker wasn’t high on a lot of people’s list!
In fairness to Parker, he’s getting an opportunity where we have few answers (Pence and Pagan injuries). Consequently, I am rooting for him to grasp this chance. By the by, he’s a decent outfielder IMO. Others can speak up here, but most of us are hoping for a trade to address our holes in the outfield and bullpen. Me? I think the bullpen is a priority, but am not certain how to address it: in-house, the “normal” way most teams do it; or, a trade, e.g., Miller. Regardless, it’s wishful thinking. This is the team we are right now and likely to be going forward . . . at least until the trade deadline when Sabes usually does his magic.
I think he is an above-average OFer in the field. Question is can he correct some of those holes in his swing (cut down on Ks/increase OBP, etc.). I like the kid and would love to see him excel in this opportunity.
Love the mention of Rajai. Two times I picked him in DFS and he raked with bombs. Last night being the latest. Twice!
If no one picks up Crawford the Dodgers still have to pay his salary, so I’m content with that.
When I look at the few teams that might be willing to deal right now, I just don’t see a whole lot of help. Plus, knowing the Giants are in need, I think teams will ask too much for the shit players that would be available (even the possible salary dump guys don’t excite me). Although he’s probably running on empty, I’d kick the tires on Rios for the league minimum. Otherwise, I’d play the kids and wait for the deadline before making a deal.
I long for the days when Pittsburgh was our minor league bitch. Of all the OFers out there, McCutchen is the one I covet the most.
I am firmly in the lets-give-Parker-a-reasonable-shot-at-the-job camp. And by that I mean, no more of this 3-4 at bats here, sit for a few days, 3-4 more at bats, get sent to Sactown for a cup of coffee bullshit. Put him out there everyday for 25 games and see what happens.
Its a small camp—in fact, I may be the only one in it, but that’s cool, as I’m a bit of a loner anyway.
All I am saying is “Give Park a Chance.”
I would really rather not take on Dodger rejects, so I want nothing to do with Crawford. As for Markakis, Parker hit as many home runs in ONE FUCKING GAME last year as Markakis hit in almost 700 at-bats.
Think about that for a second.
With you there on Parker. He’s not some 20 yr old kid any more and he’s done all he could at AAA. He’s either in or out. Seems like an OK OF too. Is there anyone else in LU with the kind of power to do what he did Sunday?
Column in Chron today lists 38 OFs that have played LF since Bonds, from start of 2008–any idea who has most?
Moises?
stat was how many have started a game in LF.
Nope. You have company out here. I would be down with that, even sans Loo’s suggestion on John Jay (last thread).
Interesting that Daniel (great post as always) compares rest given to Molina vs. Posey, since that’s been a bone of contention here for some time, the amount of r and r highest paid player gets. Kind of surprising given both mgrs. being ex catchers, they take two different approaches.
Brown seems capable back up, tho obviously recent history here bar isn’t very high.
And anyway most back up catchers are more about D and pitch handling than how well they hit.
Btw hope that Cards make a decent run at Cubs and Maddon, Pirates too. WC is gonna be tough this year.
Many Cardinal fans would say that was the difference in a manager that takes charge and a manager that tends to defer to his players. Matheny’s gone on record as saying “who am I to say he’s hurt” which tends to morph into “how can I say he needs a rest if he doesn’t agree?” While perhaps that’s not the reality, the perception is that Matheny’s much less likely to go up against a player that wants into/wants to stay in a game, even when it might be best for the team if they don’t.
Molina’s always carried a big load and every year they say they are going to rest him more and every year they don’t. It is interesting to hear y’all are having a different discussion in regards to Posey!
Thanks for the well wishes and kind words.
Thanks for keeping the flame alive. I really enjoy when you stop in, Daniel, and subsequently like to drop into “enemy camp” (even though I grew up a Cards fan) and check out your blog, too.
Porcello, has a 5.79 ERA in his previous four starts, so his season record is misleading. I’m so frickin’ positive about Parker – who has the platoon advantage over Porcello – after Sandog practically nominating him for Sainthood, that I’m starting him in an FD tourney tonight. Go Parker! lulz . . .
Where’s Freddie Lewis when you need him?
Pagan?
Lewis – Southern Maryland Blue Crabs,
Pagan – Hot tub.
In the hot tub. lulz
I did hear the other day that Pagan was pulling a weighted sled and looked good. Here is the latest I found on him, from June 5th…
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Giants’ Angel Pagan: Runs sprints Sunday
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Pagan (hamstring) ran sprints on the field prior to Sunday’s game, Alex Pavlovic of CSN Bay Area reports.
This is a good sign for Pagan, who has dealt with repeated hamstring troubles this season. The injury-plagued outfielder could be on track for activation later this week if he continues to progress at this rate.
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Just do NOT bring him back TOO SOON!
So, after that semi-crappy road trip, we lost 0.5 games in the standings?
Sweet.
I didn’t remember this at all, but it’s pretty cool . . .
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Fred-Lewis-gets-a-Giants-World-Series-ring-2368645.php
Hey, with the injuries and bullpen scuffling, I will take a .500 roadie, all day and twice on Sunday. Especially, as was the case here, we only drop .5 games. Giddy up!
My incessant bellyaching about the Giants “weak” offense prompted Chi and few others to take the time to point out the error of my ways. Statistics have been presented supporting the argument that the Giants are NOT weak offensively and are, in fact, according to said stats, middling to quite decent in most offensive categories (including RISP).
I love stats. I really do. Yet, I don’t always believe everything they seem to indicate.
Rather than pouring over stats, a valid sensibility for the overall character of this year’s Giants can be arrived at if one looks closely at the 18 series we have played up ’til now. Yes, I’m actually suggesting we look to the games and match ups themselves to give us an indication as to the true Giants temperament (with a peripheral nod to interrogations of the offensive potentialities).
So, for your perusal and enjoyment, if not edification, here is a little trip down memory lane: a season ‘series’ to date refresher/review/synopsis …
First .. a no brainer .. even though at times we have played poorly and lost badly to some of the teams within our division, we all agree that the Giants are the best team in the NL West. After all, we are in first place by a reasonable margin. And, we are 5-3-1 in those series within our division. I do suggest we temper our elation somewhat because 3 of our 5 wins were against the Padres .. yet again, those WERE sweeps! The tie was a 4 game split at home with COL. Besides the dreadful 4 game home sweep by AZ, we lost one series in LA, and one in COL. But the latter two losses occurred very early on: second week of April.
Second, let’s say we are better in everyway than all those other bottom-third-of-the-league teams we have faced and won series against (MIL 2-1; CIN 2-1).
Third, let’s say the recent series split with ATL was a mere anomaly … we know we are a much better team than them.
Ok then … who else have we been tested against and how have we fared? What about teams considered by many baseball pundits to be, if not our equal, a close match or maybe even slightly better?
Well, we have played 3 series (two on the road) against such teams: Mets; Jays; Cards. We lost them all (2-1).
As a sidebar, I will mention that we did win our home series with MIA (2-1). Arguably, the Fish are not an upper echelon team.
Finally, the only other series was against the unequivocal best team in the 2016 WORLD .. the Chicago “give-them-their-rings-now” Arrietas. We won that one (2-1).
IMHO, if only because they occurred relatively close to each other in the schedule, the series most worthy of closer investigation are vs Jays & Cubs.
A slip sliding Toronto beat us at home (2-1) but both loses were games we might have won if Peavy wasn’t deep into his, oh so familiar, imploding phase – we didn’t really stand a chance in that particular game even though Belt & Pence made it close. The second loss (shutout) was also of a familiar type: a true “Cainer”. He pitched well but had no run support. A strong Bum assault kept us in the final game of the series (Casillia BS) but the only offense we could mount for the win was a walk-off-walk for the series win in extras. Hey, whatever uh? A win is a win. I agree. Didn’t some wise person once say it is better to be lucky than good?
The sweet home Chicago series started with a good trouncing, courtesy of Arrieta & the Cubs, who easily broke our then 8 game win streak. In that first game Peavy offered up another ‘bare-ass-meant’ of anything but riches putting us in a hole even the great offenses of yester year would have been challenged to dig themselves out of. However, in the following two games Cain & Bum supplied both offense & defense respectively to get us consecutive wins to take the series.
In closing, I propose that we havent yet competed enough against top tier teams to be able gauge with any accuracy what this team can do. The facts before you point to the unimpeachable truth that, with the exception of the Cubs — at the time beginning to enter their first reality check phase of the season— we have not played well against any of the so called front runners. For whatever reason (?weak offense/weak pitching/weak pen?) we have lost every series.
Of all the relative comments from Flappers the two that rang most true for me was Willedav’s assessment that Belt’s strong performance is taking pressure off Posey and he will eventually come around. Yeah, I can buy that. The other is that someone (maybe James?) pointed out what an inferior bunch the 2010 Giants seemed at certain points in that season. Yep, I can get with that too.
I have mentioned several times that I truly understand the basic concept that our Giants — built on a foundation of extraordinary pitching working in tandem with a small ball offense that grinds out its runs — are not, and never will be a flashy high scoring team. I do get that.
Whether or not I’m a Doomer, Gloomer, Joy Rider, High on Lifer … Troll … whatever .. is moot. Important is that we have a little cushion in the division; we are mostly playing well against our div rivals; a win is win, pretty or not. Sans Pence the wins may be uglier. That’s okay too.
BB, per your closing argument you propose “that we havent yet competed enough against top tier teams to be able gauge with any accuracy what this team can do.” I agree somewhat, although your argument seems to me to be more about Wins and Losses not if we have a good offense or not. But in playing teams with winning records you point out we’re 7-8 (if you include the Dodgers we are 11-11), so it would seem for us to be 35-24 we are beating the teams we should beat, the ones with losing records, right? Are the winning teams that you mentioned doing the same? The Padres are 2-1 over the Cubs and Pirates, 2-2 against the Mets and 1-2 against the Cards. Which makes them 7-6 against those teams with winning records (counting the Dodgers they’d be 9-10), so are they a better team than SF? I say no, and I say we haven’t competed enough against all teams to know what this team can do (not to mention the team we started with this year will probably look different by October).
So lets just keep winning and see what shakes out.
Kudos for the wrap, BB. Your doctoral dissertation on the first third of the Giants 2016 season has passed the orals.
Lulz!
First Lisle I appreciate the work you put into this post, and it is good stuff. Clown makes some very good points, too.
When I threw out the stats in reference to your “weak offense” comment, it was not meant to belittle you. I was just trying to add some quantitative perspective to the discussion, and you have done the same with team-by-team comparisons. Thanks.
Bottom line, I am an optimist, and do think this team will come around, and has a good shot at making the post-season.
The last point I want to make is that I enjoy your posts, regardless of whether you are dooming on the Giants, or not. I am seriously glad you are part of the mix here in the Flap Universe.
Keep on Flappin’ brother!
That’s 5 years of typing for me…
Fred is the answer, at least to the question of who has made most starts in LF since 2008 with 170.
Blanco next with 152, burrell 136 melk 101 Aoki and Morse 82 Andres 76 Cody Ross 59.
Interesting names on there, mostly of infamy: Velez 40 Bowker 25 Dave Roberts 23 deRosa and Kieschnick 21
the Gamer 15 Pill 13 Nate 7 Ishi 4 Lolligram and Specs 2 Rajai Davis 1.
Wow, 38 who have played LF since ’08, that’s incredible. I would’ve guessed Blanco for the most.
that is an extremely interesting list and exhibit A of how shitty our outfield corp usually is….
Belt with 47 starts in LF.
I remember when Rajai Davis was here. He would swing and miss the ball by 3 feet sometimes. It amazes me that he went on to have a productive mlb career.
It is amazing what a change in scenery can do sometimes (and perhaps a change in teammates and coaches also play into that resurrection).
Yeah, something gave him a shot in the ass, oh wait….
Even as a joke on the Bumbinos, I want nothing to do with Crawford or any other stop-gap kind of OFer.
I am down with Loo’s suggestion for Jon Jay. Here is his post from last night:
“So the ESPN clowns last night like Jon Jay for the Giants. They might be on to something, although (like Markakis) he bats lefty and a righty bat would be preferable. He’s a FA after this year making $6.85 million now. Age 31. Currently leads the league with 18 doubles. Gets HBP a lot. Consistent BA – .288 lifetime. Plenty of playoff experience with Cards including 2014 when he went 9-18 vs. SF. Plays all 3 OF positions. Replaces Pence for now and Pagan next year if all goes well and they re-sign him. I might be sold…”
Looks like the perfect fit…only problem is he is currently playing for San Diego. He is a FA next year, so perhaps they would swing a deal with us. If not Jay, then someone in this mold…meaning a decent starting OFer (especially if he can play all three OF spots like Jay), who would be a serviceable replacement for Pagan next year, and a year or two after that.
Also, regarding sandog’s call that Cleveland is guaranteed a win in game 3, here are some posts from last night:
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Flavor – just saw San Diggity guaranteed a win for Cle in game 3. That’s got me doing the slowest of burns, dawg……
Sandog – You want to bet a Cha-Cha bowl on the game?
Chipower9 – San – I’ll take that bet.
Flavor – yes. And then you have to lead us to our seats.
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Sandiggity – just give us the dates for the game at which we can collect on this bet.
Irish Kevin and a few others owe be beers on the bet that Pagan would not play in 100 games last year. Pay up, Suckahs!
Chi, I will mail you your Mickeys big mouth!! 😂😂😂😂
So…if we had to choose who is the best home grown outfielder we have developed in the last 25 years, would it be Schierholtz? That is pretty amazing if that is the best we’ve done.
Diggity, I’m down with your Parker call (see my 8:12am DFS post).
Fred in 2008 hit .282 with slash line .351//440//791 OPS
Career in SF: .277/.355/420 .775 OPS
Don’t think Nate put up near those numbers here, but yeah—Fred Lewis could be best of lot, lol.
Marvin Benard? One of the fight(roid)ing hydrants? Chili Dog doesn’t count I suppose.
Well, if we are truly talking the last 25 years, then Chili doesn’t count (he was drafted in ’77). Regardless of whether or not you include Chili in the conversation, the verdict remains the same…Giants have sucked of late in developing OFers…
@Lisle: familiar with Buster Williams? I play a cd at work all the time he was on with Kenny Barron Charlie Rouse Ben Riley in rep group Sphere, where they do “Bird Songs” of Mr. Parker. He shines on “I Didn’t Know What Time it Was” and “Quasimodo”.
First heard of him on CTI release Outback from Joe Farrell with Chick Corea and Elvin Jones early ’70s.
Just a fabulous inventive player. Saw him perform live couple times with Cedar Walton groups.
Willedav…Love me some BW! You are too much man!! With your music reference posts you make my day so often ive lost count! Infinite thanks for that!
Cleveland will be lucky to even win one game. The Warriors aren’t playing particularly well, yet are blowing the Lands out of Lake Erie.
David Blatt has to be feeling a little vindication at the fact he took a team with some injuries to a couple wins . . .
I think tomorrow’s game is a bigger blowout than the previous ones.
Anyone think Bron Bron goes crawling back to Miami after this season? I think so.
I don’t see Cleveland winning one game after what I’ve seen of them in the regular season and the postseason against the Warriors. Where have they actually shown up?
Yep, Blatt is vindicated in my opinion.
No way Lebron goes back to Miami. He would be burned in effigy. He made his bed and now, has to sleep in it.
MB – .271 .343 .402 .744
54 HRs and 260 ribbies in 9 years . . .
And a plaque of his own on the Wall of Fame.
Bernard, Lewis, or Schierholtz. That’s a pretty close horse race, right there……
Yeah Chuck, Chili D is going back too far, but he is probably the last good outfielder we developed. Just looked at this stats. 101 homers in a Giant uni and almost 2400 hits for his career, which is no joke. Granted, I think the DH helped him with his career numbers big time.
Good to have you on board the Parker Train, Blade!
Yeah, the Dubs are 7-0 in their last week of games vs the mistakes by the lake.
Chili was a total fave of mine. He’s the last home grown all star outfielder.
Blade – I just shot you an email re: the Boston leg of our East Coast Flapalooza…
Yeah, I responded. You better act quick on the tickets. Saw a couple of videos today and yesterday, indicating airline tickets just jumped this week due to the summer onslaught.
Hey Chi … No offense taken at all Bro! It was kinda tongue in cheek my reference to you “showing me the error of my ways” … Truly, I always get a feeling of positive support from you in particular and it is very much appreciated!
And to address Clowns feedback .. I said it was a “peripheral nod” to the question of offense capabilities. I purposely lumped games against division rivals in to one segment. I wasn’t thinking only of teams with matching or better records than ours. Mostly because there aren’t many … which is a good thing! I think I said pretty clearly I was going by the pundits opinions of what teams were destined for greatness this year. And agin we have not played many of those … Mets, Jays & Cubs, that’s it. Left out LA because they are in our division.
In any case, lets see how we do with the Red Sox .. Fuck I hate that team !!
Blade I thought VanGumby brought up a good point middle of 3rd when Warriors began to extend lead, as LB and Irving were throwing the ball away and missing shots. He wondered how much fight Cavs had in them.
If I was Lue (in way over his head vs. Kerr +) I’d play Della more, because if nothing else he is out there to compete and can knock down an outside shot, unlike guys like Shumpert and Smith. It would also free up Irving to attack the rim as off guard or run iso pick and roll with LB. Cavs are shooting horribly from outside–so? Go inside and crash boards! OKC made Warriors pay with Kanter Adams and Ibaka.
Portland Gs attacked and went to the basket; Irving should do the same and drive on Curry and Thompson.
But really Warriors just have many more smart and unselfish players; guys like Bogut Barbosa Livingston have given great lift in limited minutes to Green other starters and Iguodala. If Love is out they lose another weapon even tho he hasn’t much shown up either. Long row to hoe for these guys.
I will give props to LB for standing up and admitting he sucked and has to get better. He is still capable of taking over a game, and might do it.
Yep, their options seem woefully limited compared to the Warriors. I despise JR Smith. He’s a whiner, an imbecile (seriously, this guy’s intelligence is barely above mentally retarded), irresponsible, and ONLY plays for himself. A shame because he has other wordly athletic skills (or did when he was with the Nuggets). Now? He only shoots the 3 and rarely is hot.
The only reason to put Delly in is to turn the game into a brawl. He’s streaky at best, an offensive liability at worst. Mosgov isn’t a bad idea though. Unless the OBDs go small. Then he’s s liability as well.
JR Is the big question. He has vanished. Bronbton could score 60 tomorrow and Cleve still loses.
Cleveland is soft inside. They are a soft team defensively. The Dubs looked woefully small against OKCs length. Not so much against the Softies.
Was Delly a known thug at Saint Mary’s? I saw him play several times back then and always viewed him as just a solid player who always seemed to do the right thing and could stroke it from the outside.
Now, he’s this total scrapper, and the few times I watched him play in the last year or so, his outside shot looks pretty sketchy to me. Its like he’s a totally different guy from what I remember in his WCC days.
PS/Just for the heckuva it………..I still have fond memories of being at the NCAA tournament game where St. Mary’s took on Wake Forest and Brad “The Big Continent” Millard drop-stepped and 2 hand jammed twice in a row right in Tim Duncan’s face. It was awesome.
No, Dog. I saw him play a bunch of games at St. Mary’s and he was just a balls-to-the-wall kind of guy. I think he just got much better open looks in college. I mean the WCC is a pretty good conference, but it is light years away from the NBA. His rep now is as a shit disturber/cheap shotter based on a lot of his recent things. really, it’s part of how he sticks around. A John Starks kind of guy.
The other guy I really liked in those days (my daughter was at St. Mary’s the same 4 years as Delly) was Kelly Olynyk. He played in the same time frame for Gonzaga. I saw the Zags a few times when he was there and he impressed me with his quickness. I thought he might be a little too light for the NBA but he’s a pretty solid PF. He played a great game against the Warriors this season.
My friend Mike (Rain Man) just gave me the latest on Timmy:
He pitched in Reno today: 5 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 6 Ks. 95 pitches, 59 for strikes.
His next scheduled start is June 12 in Anaheim vs. the Tribe.
55!
Thanks for 55’s update Chi!
Been to the Aces ballpark a few times, really cool stadium a mini ATT with a train track in the back of the LF wall..
You got it, Kat. I know there are a lot of Flappers who are interested in Timmy. 55!
Thanks Chi for the update! Btw, I responded to your 11:32a post in case you missed it.
Truck is loaded .. twas BRUTAL!! .. hitting the road @6pm tnite!
From Pav: Posey, who was off Sunday, was scratched from lineup. New look: Span, Panik, Duffy, Belt, Crawford, Blanco, Parker, Brown, Suarez.
I wonder if it’s because of the foul ball he took off his knee in Saturday’s game. It looked like he was having a hard time getting comfortable for a while after that happened.
Inflamed thumb nerve for Buster. We may need the fighting hydrants tonight.
Magic Johnson is doing his “get off my lawn” act, saying that the Warriors would be no match for “Showtime.”
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16021754/magic-johnson-says-show-los-angeles-lakers-beat-current-golden-state-warriors
“get off my lawn”
Duvall with a three run bomb in his first AB tonight. 17th Jack of the year. You could award him as the greatest homegrown Giants outfielder if not for the fact they groomed him to play 3B.
He was traded for the rental of Leake last year, the guy he hit the HR off of tonight.
I was OK with the trade at the time. Leake was less than amazing for the Giants last year, but oh well. Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle (Scutaro) and sometimes you don’t.
Yeah, kind of reminds me of JD Martinez of Detroit. He was a young Astros midlevel prospect that never showed much during his time in Houston, then he goes to Detroit and becomes an All Star and Silver Slugger award winner.
I agree. It sucks we don’t have Duvall, but I fully supported the Leake trade at the time too.
Interesting article
https://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2016/06/mlb_trade_rumors_san_francisco_giants_talk_yankees.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=san-francisco-giants
Beede plus someone else besides Arroyo, for Miller; I’m onboard with that.
Sabes should call Cashman and tell him, “Hey, we have this season’s Duvall . . . Guy by the name of Mac Williamson. How much? Cheap Brian . . . Give us your 8th inning guy, Miller and you have a deal. Hello? Hello? Hello Brian, you there?”
. . . dial tone.
Jesus. Duvall is out-homering the starters.
Game is on MLB Network…we ain’t getting Miller.
So the Giants gave Big Pappi a cable car bell for his farewell present? I bet he gives it to a homeless guy when he checks out of his hotel.
Let’s not forget Cincy is a band box for hitters. Let’s see his numbers next year. But I wish him well and it was was a smart trade. Some Flapper noted what the team did record wise after Pence went down last year. Probably took us out of a legit run for the playoffs (Besides Leake’s underwhelming performance). So I don’t think we can wait until the trade deadline to make a move and rely on giving Parker a 25 day trial.
I am pretty confident Dubs are winning Game 3 and let the Cavs get one and close them out at home for Game 5.
Lebron gives them a one year extension and I think they go for a big deal and move Kyrie and Kevin Love for Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. Lebron then brings in Dwayne Wade for one more glory run. A CP3-WADE-LEBRON-GRIFFIN-TRISTAN THOMPSON lineup at least guarantees a return to the Finals for them and much tougher lineup to take the Dubs on. That could be one hell of a potential matchup.
I am surprised that the Cavs have sat Mozgov. I thought he played pretty well last year. Lebron and Lue have made the classic mistake of thinking they can play like the Warriors. Only way the Cavs can win one game is to go as big as possible and slow everything down….but the Dubs adjust and wins in 5…really sheit performance from the Sharks. Put an end to the White Russian magic:( need a new drink…
Did you think up that trade or has it really been talked about?
Miller on radio (plus Baggs blog) said Posey might miss tmw too, ending long streak 45 games I think of always catching Bum since 2014.
No Big Papi, Sox protecting him from injury, lol. He can hit and run bases but not play 1b. Whatev, DH league BS.
I didn’t know Chili was the Sox hitting coach…
Lasorda in the booth with Bosox announcers, but his mic doesn’t work!
I love it!
Yeah it’s great. Now he’s relegated to the back of the booth while some other guy is promoting cancer research, yet his mic works just fine. Awesome!
I literally was poised and ready to change the channel to the Giants feed as soon as he started speaking, but I never had to!
So was I. lulz!
Are you also not a huge Kruk/Kuip fan?
2-0 feels insurmountable with this lineup…
Kinda like both Mets games today.
hey you said he hits them in bunches
Parker’s house!
Park it baby!
Safety Dance!
J.P. Blow!!!
Parker winning me money. 🙂
Cha Ching…Badda Bing…
What is Denard Span’s value to this team?
He increases the average age of the team.
I think he’s really 57…
It’s high, like Sutro Tower high. I think he plays a good CF, does pretty well leading off, and we don’t exactly have loads of OF talent to begin with.
He has grown on me, too…
No shit. Blanco is not the answer as a regular, and what, you want Pagan out there everyday when he returns. No way he lasts. Span it is. That lack of OF depth is exactly why I am big on the Giants getting out of their comfort zone and going out and trading for a decent starting OFer who can play multiple positions (including CF).
Loo, yes, Dog, he just doesn’t impress me. I know he’s a good CF, but he hasn’t really done squat offensively, doesn’t really steal bases, has a decent OBP, but no pop. 8 doubles, 2 homers, 23 ribbies. It’s like he’s just there. He inspires no excitement in me. Pagan at his best did that. Span, not so much.
LJ – there are NO better options right now. See my 8:12 above.
Yeah, I get that, I’m was just thinking about what he brings to the table for the G’s, right after he fanned in his last AB. It occurs to me that he really brings nothing special. He’s not a table setter and that’s what a stagnant offense needs, someone to get on base and mix it up and put pressure on the defense.
Article on MLB states Posey dealing with nerve irritation in his thumb, article in the MLB app, could not figure out how to get the link. Technologically challenged, ha ha
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I watched a little bit of the Rockies and Dodgers game last night, where Chatwood pitched a combined one hitter with one of their relievers, for only the 2nd one hitter in the Rockies entire history.
However, that’s not what this post is about. Yesterday, Willie said something that I not only agree with, but have seen it repeated 3 times by different people (comments in our local paper and other baseball sites). Here’s what Willie said, with a rebuttal from James and disagreement toward James from Zumiee:
“willedav said, on June 6, 2016 at 9:05 pm (Edit)
This imo is what is going to doom LA—rotation of Kershaw and nothing.
The Stripling guy didn’t pan out and Maeda seems eminently hittable, so is Kazmir.
Bolsinger is gone after 5+—like Peavy his numbers 3rd time through the order are awful.
Part of Roberts problem is going to be setting a LU–they still have too many OFs that are platoon guys and not full time regulars, even without Puig and Ethier. Like boone said about Cards IF last night once Peralta comes back, moving guys in and out all the time isn’t recipe for success. But there are decisions that have to be made on your best 8, and that could mean extended bench time for some potentially talented players that won’t like sitting out much.
Roberts had Turner leading off tonite.
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James said, on June 6, 2016 at 9:55 pm (Edit)
WillieD, LA’s offense has actually been a lot worse than its pitching, even with Seager going off. While LA has had only two top notch starters, its team ERA is still better than SF’s. The mediocrity of LA’s 3-5 is a match for Smarge, Cain, and Peavey, and their bullpen has been pretty good.
zumiee said, on June 6, 2016 at 9:56 pm (Edit)
Bullpen issues, too, other than Jansen.”
The only reason why I am posting this is because first, I wanted to acknowledge Willie for saying it first, as well as acknowledging that I have heard it a number of times in just the last day. In any event, our problems pale in comparison to what the Dodgers are going through. They have Kershaw and nothing (as Willie said). Similarly, they have Seager, an old Gonzalez, and a couple of complimentary pieces. All of these guys have won zero championships.
“Old Gonzalez” sounds like some kind of cheap Tequila…
He should copyright it before you or I do.
Story about Lasorda in the Billy Martin bio.
I think this took place when Martin was managing in minors. Lasorda is on the mound and throwing at his guys, and Martin jumps up and yells at him he’ll fight him after the game.
Lasorda walks off the mound toward the dugout and wants to fight right now.
Cooler heads eventually prevail and they do meet up after the game…and wind up drinking buddies.
Duffy pulls the ball!
Looks to me like he is making a conscious effort to pull the ball and cut his swing loose more. I like it.
Kevin – here ya go…the latest on Posey. Will be held out tomorrow, too.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/posey-day-day-nerve-irritation-right-thumb
Thanks
I’m not sure Panik shouldn’t score there.
Bases loaded.
Now we’re fucked.
Juiced, no fucking outs, ya gotta get a couple here, or at least one. This type of situation has been the type in which I want to throw large sharp heavy objects (after our boys fail to score a fucking run).
lulz, Loo. Just saw your post. Great minds think alike!
Mudbug with the RBI. WTF…take ’em any way you can get ’em, and twice if their easy!
Tied up.
Shit, I’ll take this all day and twice on Sunday. Keep up walkin’ . . .
Fucking DP…well, at least we have the lead. Hey, is Zumiee at today’s game, or is that tomorrow?
I think Zum’s tomorrow for Bum…
Think you are right, Loo. Looking forward to those picts, Zume…
Rally killer but we’re ahead.
Parker just fouled off a speedball that was right down broadway.
He can throw that speedball by you…make you look like a fool, boy!
lulz
Steve Lyons said earlier that they “forgot” to put in bullpens when they built ATT. That’s not true, is it?
I do think the on-field bullpens are an embarrassment. If there is enough room in that garden/picnic area to put both bullpens, I would go ahead and do that if I were in charge. While I’m at it, I’d also get rid of the giant glove and the giant Coke bottle, which I think are both cheesy.
They’ve always said that, but I never believed it, SD…
I guess if Coke stops paying for it, they’d have no choice.
Must’ve signed a really long-term deal for that thing…
Not true. The bullpens were by design. I went to the groundbreaking and ended up buying season tix that I had the first three years. Bleachers, 138. During the groundbreaking they had folks answering questions and providing details about the park. And way they are doing anything with that garden area other than expanding it. That place is packed pretty frequently…just one more of the Giants-owned gold mines.
The utterly moronic “razzing” fans down the right field line fall into when someone gets up in the visitor’s bullpen is the stupidest behavior on display at any ballpark anywhere.
Before the park was built, the original plans had a brew pub in CF, with outside seating on the roof and also the scoreboard on top. My neighbors on Pot Hill complained that the scoreboard would be to visible, so the Giants scrapped that idea. I had already started making payments on my seat licenses (we had I think five years before the park opened to pay up), man I was pissed about that.
Nifty 4-6-3. Who does it better than those 2?
Bill Mazeroski and Gene Alley?
haha
It is a beautiful thing. Nothing like a beautifully-turned DP.
Pedroia-Bogaerts the previous inning?
I’ll take Panik-Crawford, thank you very much. I think that over the course of a season they’re the best up the middle pair in baseball.
Nice DP.
You know how several you feel like Panik is destined for greatness? I feel that way about Crawdad. Man am I happy we got that guy inked to a long term deal. He’s a fucking stud IMO. (Though I still hate what he does with his hair)
Agree on all points, about Craw, including the hair. I am in the camp that thinks Panik will shine. I have said, and stick to it, that the dude will have a batting title or two before it is all said and done (and I will qualify that with an “if he stays healthy”).
Crawford’s tremendous, but he’s clearly overweight and should lose 10 pounds minimum…
He’d probably get that by losing the hair and the beard.
I was with you on that at one point, but he looks like he is zipping around pretty good out there to me.
I agree, Loo. You think he has become a bit lackadaisical after inking the big contract? You would think with all those kids he would be running his ass off, but with his coin, I suppose he can hire a couple of nannies.
If only he were 25 instead of 29 . . . .
I always thought the lack of off-the-field bullpens was due to the restricted acreage at that site. It’s really the only thing about the park that could be called a weakness.
And Steve Lyons is a bozo. I mean the dude dropped his drawers during a ballgame.
I was handcuffed to the real Bozo the Clown in 1985.
Long story.
Maybe some other time…
Looking forward to that one. Maybe when Blade and I visit NYC…
Isn’t that a Bozo no no?
Bosox are showing an angle I’ve never seen before of Span’s stance. I didn’t realize that front foot is torqued THAT much. Bizarre.
Re: Buster’s bad thumb, Pavlovic writes today:
“Posey said he’s day-to-day and will continue to get treatment for an issue that has plagued him off and on throughout the season.” Plagued him off and on? Throughout the season. First I’ve heard of it. This is written like everybody and his brother knew. Maybe I was the only one that didn’t know. Any of you guys hear of this before today — as an explanation why Posey has hit like crap so far this year? I surmised several times that there was something wrong with him, but they weren’t saying…
Come on snarkk, you know it is at the team’s discretion what is shared. But no, first I have heard of it.
It’s typical Giants. Somebody outta the blue drops a nonchalant nugget that somebody’s been hurt all season, apparently when they can’t keep the lid on any longer with the usual white lies…
Diggity, the 4 finger glove is unique in that it has a covert eight-panty payload in the fingers . . . Yep, 8 of the 10 artists/sculptors that made it were women and left their panties in the fingers.
That’s a Fun Fact, Blade!
Dammit, I KNEW there was a reason I liked that damned glove! Have to give it a sniff next time I am there.
Please warn us before you embark on that tale.
That was for Loo’s disturbing Bozo story.
Good idea, LJ. I just moved it up to reply to you…
Suarez is looking pretty sharp out there. I like what I’m seeing.
If we’d had Suarez and Petit in the rotation instead of Peavy and Cain all year, SF would have 40 wins.
Look at P and C’s contract sizes, and that tells U all U need to know why they’ve been out there stinking it up for most of the season so far…
Ab-so-fucking-lutely. But it was still a head-scratcher that they did not go a bit harder at Petit. I didn’t get that one.
Nor did I. IMO Bochy misused Petit last season, that is why he was “inconsistent”, which is what they said when they let him go. I call BS. Dusty has used him 14X so far, that pencils out to around 40X this year…
So Suarez…..how would you like a regular spot in the rotation for the next couple of months or so?
Exactly. Why not.
Giddy up!
I want Bradley, Jr. to be Milton . . . Hanley and Milton
Span’s stance with that front foot bugs me, but he’s got a high OB and a little pop. If the guys behind him, like Panik and Duffy were hitting better he’d score more often. And yes he does play a good CF. Not spectacular but fine every day guy who has been healthy so far unlike a lot of Giants.
Suarez through 6, quality start. Insurance, pls.
Just to set record straight, Mr. James is spot on about Dodgers. They have given up a dozen less runs than Giants, mostly I guess due to fact that other than Urias none of their SPs have ERAs like Peavy.
And B/R puts their team OPS at 12th in NL, so lot of guys struggling that hit much better last year.
Petit so far w/the Nats:
14 games, 28 IP, ERA 2.89, 23 SOs, 5 BBs, WHIP 1.04.
Giants could definitely use that kind of production…