Phailing in Philly
Glad I didn’t have to watch any of that. I don’t understand why Philly’s record is so bad, every time I pay attention to them they play great. Some tweets floating around that Smith’s stuff looked very good, despite the results. Thoughts?
Definitely some positives to take from the comeback, the bombs, the 2 SB’s from Span…..
Big start for Cueto. He’s been bad since the 2nd half re-start.
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Come on Belt.
Panik really needs one here…
Pfffttt!
I think we traded the wrong infielder.
Bingo.
Sheesh, the Sherpas are similar to a horde of Vandals killing, raping and pillaging across Germanic lands. Now 11-2 against the Bums and only the 6th inning.
Without Story too. Kinda scary.
Kontos….
The Rash is in the game.
He was all over that pitch. Sheesh, that was smoked.
Kontos is about to give up a tater.
Why not run/hit or hit/run with Pence on 1st and Posey hitting? Instead, the ground out switched a slow Posey in for a fast Pence, at first. Then, Bochy tried some hit/run with one out and Craw, with a slow runner Posey at first. I don’t get it…
If you are not yet a believer in the Baseball Gods Aesir, perhaps it’s time to get on board. Not only did they let Loki back to plague the Giants, but somehow he has managed to infect Bochy’s brain and then with two on in the top of the 11th the Panik attack fizzles into yet another line-out. How many Giants rallies have gone down the big swirly in recent days/weeks when there’s another line-out?
Panik is living a bad BABIP nightmare these days.
Nifty 3-6-1 there.
You can do it, Rash!
Nooner time
Maybe Bochy should have started the 8th with Kontos. At least he slipped outta the chokehold.
The Rash should avoid hitting the ball in the air at all costs. Think Willie Mays Hayes in the first “Major League” film. Drop right there at the plate, fucker, and give me 20 every time you fly out.
I think he should take after Don Baylor and just let the ball hit him.
Somebody needs to hit something big, a triple, an HR. Come on, somebody get something done…
San Dog, did you wear your Giant colors for that Game 7 in Anaheim or did you stay incognito…The Flap wants to know…I would have stayed quiet as a mouse knowing what was to come. I always said Spezio still hit a hell of a pitch..it was not just thrown up there. It was down if I recall correctly and he sort of golf ed other out of there. But that should have been Russian Ortiz’ hitter not the overworked and injured Nen bullpen…
Can’t trust those Russians
Trump does…
I am just quiting on the spell check mothersuckers
God forbid we run in this situation
Are the Giants taking Ludes before every game? Is Bochy? Seriously, this team has been basically listless since the A/S break. Now they’ve gone 9 innings without a score…
Brilliant. Are you fuckng kidding me?
Just got in and there’s the OOO debut, underwhelming as always.
Meanwhile third hit of the night for Span. My theory is Bochy thinks he’s a better hitter than he’s shown, more like what he did earlier when he was hitting near .300 and the OB was .360. Maybe warm weather familiarity with the yard will wake him up.
He left Duffy in 3 spot for longest time for same reason I think.
Just my take but Panik would be lot easier to replace than people think. First season was .700 OPs with 1 HR, middle season much more pop .800 OPS but injured. This season back to .700 and a concussion. Hits ball in the air too much for my taste–at ATT that is tough, esp at night for LH.
Notice as soon as Craw and Belt got out of there, yardwork.
Who went down or out with Adrianza coming up?
Mac Williamson went on the DL.
Oy, not a good exchange in my book…
Panik.
Ha! I thought you meant in this game.
So, will we see Peavy at some point in this game?
Bochy has to wear this game hard. Makes no fucking sense how he managed the pen tonite. Even if they get out of this with a win.
Which is getting unlikelier by the second.
DP time.
OMG, Peavy in with 2 bags jammed and one out. And, a short warm up. This is really rolling dice…
Here we go…
Pfffttt! Fucking Nunez.
Uncle!
It is officially Noonan from now on..F!!!
“Nunie” looks like he’s got an iron glove so far…
Anyone want Duffy back now?
Maybe the Rays will reconsider and take Panik instead.
wow another f-up by nunez. At least this one can’t cost 4 runs.
Ball game. 4 more hours of suckitude.
Gee, who didn’t see that coming. Please tell me this is rock bottom.
Wow. We suck. Bochy fucked this one badly.
That my friends, is the bottom.
I thought the triple play was the bottom, then last night’s debacle was the bottom. Now this! Ugh! When will it ever end?
A phuckin’ nightmare.
I thought Nunez was supposed to be good defensively. Psych!
He played that one like a rookie. There was never going to be a play at second base. Rookies are always fishing for stuff where there’s no fish. But he’s not a rookie.
Well, a few days ago I had mentioned that I had heard otherwise from what I thought was a decent source and got thoroughly scalded … I will shut up now … goodnight all.
You questioned his arm strength, which was not an issue on that play.
Wrong! I mentioned his arm strength as part of the overall topic of weak defense … obviously from ladt nights error his arm is strong, but accuracy may be an issue.
My memory of it is that BF was talking about Nunez’s arm-strength. I guess we disagree.
Something Duffy has no issue with. That’s right, I’m still harping on the ill-advised Duffy trade.
Correct, BF was speaking specifically of arm but, at the time, the general flow of the thread related to overall defense abilities. My input was summarily dismissed.
The issue was the way you said it, showing zero respect for the guy whose blog it is.
you specifically questioned my comment about his arm strength, like I was making it up. Go back and re-read the thread and don’t give me any of your bullshit about the “general flow of the thread”. My main issue with you that day was the fact that you basically called me a liar. I stated my source (Gladden) you hazily cited some writer in Minnesota who said he had a bad arm. I said I stand by what Dan Gladden says (ABOUT ARM STRENGTH, NOT DEFENSIVE ABILITIES) but also noted that he might be a homer like Kruk and that we would ultimately see if he had a strong arm or not when he played. And the disagreement was 100% related to arm strength on defense. Your *input* was not summarily dismissed. The fact that you were suggesting I made something up was the problem. And as I said that day, you can stick your “oh reallys” up your ass.
And then you start sqawking last night like you were somehow proven correct by the Nunez error. You’re aware, I hope, that last night’s error didn’t have anything to do with arm strength, right? Regardless, I don’t care one fucking whit about whether he’s got a strong arm or not. But I’m not gonna stand by silently while you fuck with me about the validity of my posts. Gladden said it, I repeated it. I do not lie, got it?
I told you to drop it and we were moving on and then you fucking bring it up again last night. WTF is wrong with you. DROP IT AND MOVE THE FUCK ON…..
And that last point is an important one. I haven’t said a single fucking thing about our dispute since the moment I told you to drop it and move on. I dropped it and moved on. Then you fucking bring it up again last night and the kicker was that you weren’t even clucking about the dispute correctly! Arm strength dumb ass, not defensive ability, THAT was our dispute.
This isn’t a slump, it’s a nosedive.
Bochy is starting to wear this shit, HOFer or not…
It might be time to get a look at Arroyo. It can’t hurt.
Ain’t happening until September..
At least it’s only 11:12 PM here – not 2:12 AM…
Early cratering is better, you can drink more…
lulz
Silver linings!
Agreed, Loo.
Duffy is still out. Not sure how he makes that play.
Skeeter may have better paws than Nunie’s hands…
Good point. Duffy wouldn’t have been in there anyway.
But Skeeter may have better paws than Nunie’s hands.
How he handled Cueto in the 8th makes me think of his old half sober days in the dugout…
It’s obvious this Pen is so inconsistent, Bochy hasn’t figured it out. It’s easier to be a genius manager of the Pen when the Pen as a group gets guys out consistently…
I get not trusting the pen, but still you can’t leave the guy out there after 2 bombs in the 7th a walk and a single in the 8th.
At a high pitchcount, that seemed pretty weird.
Yeah, when the starting pitchers were doing real well, it made the bullpen tolerable; but with the starters struggling now, the bullpen is not tolerable. The starters have to get better again.
Or the season is toast.
When we hit the pitching sucks. When the pitching is on we don’t hit.
I know, it wont fit on a fucking tshirt.
in small print
Just saw the replay. Cueto tried to bunt for a hit in the 6th? WT bloody F?
He might have been safe, but the Giants couldn’t challenge it, having wasted a challenge earlier.
Fuck the challenge, why is he pitcher bunting?
That stuff looks cute when he’s winning.
Bochy is at his best when he manages in the post-season. He needs to start looking at every game as “the post-season”. They just have to get there, and winning it all is real. But dude needs to start managing like every game is big, or they might not even get there. Maybe he already is, who knows. Just doesn’t look that way. Peavy said last weekend he thought Bruce would be managing more like that from now on… hmmm…. Of course, it’s still ALL on the players, they must perform. If everyone does their job, they’ll be fine. Not really doing their jobs at the moment….
Had Bochy simply thanked Cueto for an excellent performance through six and for giving up nothing more than those two singleshots in the 7th and THEN gone to the pen to start the 8th (preferably laying down the Law followed by Casilla in the 9th) we might be celebrating a Giants victory right now.
I think everyone here was expecting it to go that way.
Carlos Gonzalez goes deep twice as Rockies are now an MLB best 14-5 since All-Star Break.
top 4 in LU scored 8 and drove in 10 I think. Best news of the night they lit up the Dodgers call up kid.
Way i see it is that there are two possibilities: Either Bochy is suffering from an advanced case of dementia praecox or there is some big Vegas money involved ~ like that fat toad who operates outta the Sands and has his fingers dipped into half the prostiticians in sight as well as playing patty-patty with Beijing in his Macao casino operations. The two possibilities are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
No offense, but, you’re joking, right?
Rox are only 7 games back with L.A. and S.F. rapidly going in the wrong direction. Head-to-head games with that club are going to be huge. It feels to me like the Giants are teetering on the brink of collapse. I’ve no idea how they are still in first place.
No one is mentioning Romo?
I threw a Friend Bomb Romo’s way…he may need toast as well as Javier…
What a fecking clusterfeck. Nunie. Eat me raw. Romo too. And Kontos. The whole gang. What a dreadful trip. FORFEIT. Stay home!
Dodgers ace Kershaw was moved to the 60-day disabled list earlier in the day, and right-hander Louis Coleman (shoulder fatigue) and left-hander Adam Liberatore were also placed on the DL.
won’t matter if the Giants don’t right their own ship
Dat be true Satchmo.
Liberatore, too? That’s huge.
This is how long it has been since the Rockies were relevant in August – six years. For the first time in six years, the Rockies have a winning baseball team in August, 54-53. Wow! The only problem is that they are barely above .500 at home and they have 2 contenders coming into town after the Dodgers. Not certain how that will turn out, but take this for what it’s worth – they have clearly outplayed the Bums the last 2 nights.
This is looking like a max 2 win roadie…
Other than Atl, SD, and Ari, the rest of this seasons schedule is no joke. If you haven’t taken a look, do yourself a favor and don’t.
Noonan is looking a lot like Leake and not stepping up in the spotlight. Is Moore going tomorrow???? Let’s see how he performs.
But some guys melt under the pressure as Leake did last year and now I a. Would during about Nunez. That was absolutely atrocious. But what is unforgivable as the team has been going since the all-star break and they got way lucky to have the reversal on the safe call in the bottom of the 8th that made the second out as runners advanced. With two runners on in scoring position and the tying run at second, there is absolutely no justification having Cueto pitch there…just basic managing. If your pen blows it there then Fuck your pen, but you got to make the move to the pen.
All of that is well said.
You make that move, unless you don’t trust your Pen…
Well, if it’s true that Bruce doesn’t trust his relievers (which of course we’ll never know), then that’s on management for not giving him what he thinks he needs. I said of the 3 recent moves that I thought management did its job, and now it was up to Bruce to manage well and especially up to the players, old or new, to do their jobs. Maybe its arguable that management didn’t really do its job if it didn’t get the right people, but I don’t think so, I think those 3 moves *seemed* pretty solid. From here on, it all comes down to what happens on the field between the lines. We all keep thinking this is just a dip, a correction. Might take a few games for the “new” team to find its footing together. At any rate, yeah, it’s flippin’ amazing this team is still in 1st. Still time to put it together. How odd to think we might have to be watching the Rox rather than the Dogs sneaking up on us….
Wow- what an HR swing from Nelson Cruz on the highlights tonight. The feet don’t move; the power is generated from hip movement.
It started as a pleasant enough night: Ideal weather, no humidity at all, nice breeze. There was even that rare sighting — a first-inning lead by the Giants. And a couple more runs.soon after. But then came a Pagan DP that squandered another scoring chance, and that was the first sign — 4 runs that should’ve been more against an absolute chump pitcher. And then it happened: The offense disappeared, as if thrown off the Walt Whitman Bridge to the bottom of the Delaware River, never to be seen again. Still, Johnny C was rolling along and it looked like would be 4 enough — until, of course, those two bombs in the 7th.
And now we get to Bochy, because when a pitcher well over 100 pitches walks a .200 hitter with the top of the order coming up isn’t enough indication that Cueto may be done . . . let’s just say I’m still shimmying and shaking my head over that one. At that point, it wasn’t a matter of it but when and how. And what a how it was, Kontos konking out as usual and our wondrous new 3B handling another grounder like a greasy cheesesteak. My saving grace in the late innings was getting an occasional whiff of the weed being enjoyed by the guys in back of us.
‘wasn’t a matter of if…’
Awesome post, Mac.
I do seem to recall the Giants actually getting a runner in scoring position during one of the extra innings, but this could have been my imagination running wild from the strange smell wafting from behind.
Great post and the “visuals” are spot on, e.g., “greasy cheesesteak.”