The New Era Feels Like the Old Era
Two games into the Stubbs/Arroyo Era and it has resulted in 3 runs in 2 games. Now that they’ve settled into The Show, I’m thinking one or both hit a bomb tonight. Why not?
Time for Cueto to shimmy his ass back on the beam. Coors Field is in the rear view mirror, Bumgarner’s arm sits glumly in a sling. We need him to step up or opt out.
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I’ll take 2-1 games every day of the week…with Kershaw pitching and hasn’t it been typical SF weather at night there this week? 2-1 means you are in it every game. Now whatvabiut yesterday’s line-up…I almost choked reading that…
Cueto and the gang will pull out a W tonight, we need Kershaw revenge and a boost and he is the guy to do it. Looking for the rook to bust a move too. Giants!
JillyMaui – I think Flavor inquired last thread, but I did not see an answer. Does your travel van have a name? What type of rig is your van?
I bought a 23′ Lance travel trailer this year and she will get her first major workout later this year (about 3900 miles).
I’m buying later this year, a class b under 20′. I might name her Tiny Tiki Hut but I don’t know lol …… good luck with your adventures!
Thanks, and good luck with your purchase.
With a name like that, she would need some John Hiatt blaring outta her speakers…
We were at a concert last night, so missed the game (was following on the phone). Nice to see Arroyo get his first ML knock against Opie.
Offense needs to step-up and get those key knocks during critical points in the game.
Giants should try some new approaches against Kershaw. A career of team impotence against him suggests that. Bunt for hits, send runners, something to pressure the defense instead of just going up there and whiffing and hitting wimpy grounders an pops against the guy. What’s the downside — you lose?..
Easy to say, but the problem is, Opie is always hitting corners and always ahead in the count. Hard to change your approach when the count is 1-3.
We’ve never done something like this to him:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI201405170.shtml
We couldn’t that day. We were too busy getting shut out by something named Tom Koehler…
do you have any recollection of Huff or Gutierrez as relievers for us that year? I don’t.
I actually do for some reason…
I just offered Nunez and Strickland to a rabid Met fan friend of mine in exchange for Gsellman and Lagares and he jumped at it…GIDDYUP!
Your thread title reminds me of the old Who line, Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss . . .
Strickland is our only heat thrower out of the pen. Every team has to have a couple of those now. No way they trade him until some of the young 100 mph guys in the minors are ready to rise.
Johnathan Demme died. He did good stuff for a hollywood guy. Something Wild was funny.
Yep, that was a funny movie . . . He could also scare the crap out of you, e.g., Silence of the Lambs. Scariest movie I have ever seen.
Speaking of shimmy – time for me to get ready for a leisurely drive to New Orleans. Gotta drop the dogs off this afternoon, pack and get the cats situated. Probably leave here around 6 and stop off at South of the Border SC about 10 tonight (“You never sausage such a place””). Cruise into Savannah GA for lunch and a little knocking around before getting to Montgomery Ala for the night and float on into NOLA Friday morning/afternoon.
That’s what I am talking about…
I had to google SOTB/SC. Looks like an “interesting” place. Safe travels, John.
I am jealous as hell…I am so overdue for a trip to NOLA (without a doubt one of my favorite cities), and Gail (my sidekick and partner in crime) has never been. Need to make it happen.
Jeez, maybe it would just be easier to list off the people who DIDN’T get fired by ESPN today…..
Jayson Stark one of the layoffs, I know some of the Flap here like the guy. Can’t imagine he’ll stay unemployed very long.
There’s something big going on with taxes that I don’t understand or care about….
it’s the same dumb plan he trotted out last Fall and it has no chance of ever happening.
Guess their not gonna write off Chris “Back Back Back ” Berman anytime soon!
I haven’t watched an espn show in years. I’ve watched games but not an actual show.
Me, too…I actually cannot stand any of them I have seen while surfing…
Haven’t seen it mentioned here, but Casilla blew a save in the 10th inning last night on a Trout HR, Angels then won in 11.
Yeah, saw that. whatever limited success Casilla has had so far this year, he NEVER would have been able to duplicate it for the Giants. His head was fucked up in SF. And, probably soon will be in Oakland too.
The HR call was funny. As the ball is headed oppo the broadcaster says “the ball is carrying tonight…and…that ball is outta here!!!!”
He said “the ball is carrying tonight” in the bottom of the 10th of a 1-0 game
That’s funny, ok, now I gotta find that clip.
it’s on the mustC clip at mlb.com–the second clip
Demme was also a huge Neil Young fan and did a concert film and a couple of documentaries about him.
My daughter called me and “told” me to get Thursday off to go to the game on Thursday. I didn’t need to be told twice. So I will rep the Flapp tomorrow, with Moore on the mound. Hopefully he has his shit together and pitches a gem. With the way the offense is going I might put on the Rally cap in the1st inning. I will be in the bleachers in front f the Coke bottle.
Very cool!
Maybe you’ll catch Arroyo’s first MLB HR! 🙂
Represent well…and get us a W. We really do not want to send-out Guido and crew to break your knees (especially in front of your daughter). Enjoy Kev…
Curious what tickets set you back. I was looking at this series a week or so ago, and could have snagged Club Level seats fro $35-$60. For a fucking bambino game!
I just looked at StubHub. When you look at the initial page:
Tickets for tomorrow – starting at $9. Parking passes for tomorrow – starting at $39.
Opening Day this year I paid $40 to park down by Red’s. Fuck, I remember when parking at The Stick was like $4, and your parking ticket was a “baseball card” that had a player’s picture on it.
Loo I apologize if you told this story before, but were you in attendance the day Secretariat won the triple crown?
I was there, but didn’t see the race. I was helping my buddy Shotgun Hampton cool out a 17 hand monster and future 3X HOTY & 8X Eclipse Award winner named Forego who had won the prior race on the card. As I’ve said, we could hear the crowd roaring and absolutely didn’t care. I was also there for Slew and Affirmed which was the last Belmont I attended.
that’s right. I remember now. Fantastic story.”We knew what we had.”
I was a very small part of “we”. A fringe lunatic that would hop a fence and do anything to hang around.
Could never happen today. But man, was I in love with that horse. Flew to Kentucky to visit him in 1996 at his retirement home. He died 10 months later at age 27…
Krukow mentioned several times that “when Kershaw is pitching, the umps look for strikes.” Krukow wasn’t really saying it as a gripe. The great pitchers sometimes get a bigger strikezone, if the umps like the pitcher. I don’t think Bum gets the bigger strikezone. I think a lot of umps don’t like his demeanor on the mound.
ESPN’s problems were inevitable, given the changing sports TV landscape and the internet. Each major sport has their own TV network, plus all the stuff available online. ESPN is like a stodgy oldster in the new landscape.
Sports viewing on Disney’s networks is down about 4% this year. The shedding of big TV bundles continues to punish the sports network, with Nielsen March estimates saying ESPN’s in 87.4M homes (down 748,000 from January). In 2011, ESPN peaked when they topped 100 million subscribers. However, in the six years since then, their numbers have steadily fallen. Worse, during that same period, the number of cable subscribers has dropped at a faster rate, falling 16%.
Consequently, Disney/ESPN are doing everything, including layoffs, streaming, etc., to stem the hemorrhaging of subscribers and profits. Personally, I think it is a lost cause for a couple of reasons: 1. The paradigm of watching TV via cable or Satellite is changing; 2. They spend over 7 billion dollars on content – way too much in lieu of the cord cutters (mostly millennials) finding other forms of entertainment, e.g., Hulu, Netflix, etc. These content costs wont go down until after 2020-2022.
Like Flavor and perhaps, others here, I haven’t watched an ESPN show in years. Ironically, Disney’s stock has had a resurgence in 2017, hovering near 52 week highs.
Who would win in a fight, Buzz Saw or Shotgun Hampton? And to make it fair, it would be Shotgun in his prime vs Buzz Saw today. Ok, who wins?
and before you answer, just know that I am planning on pitting the winner in a battle to the death against San Dawg’s old playground buddy Aubry Hill…..
Speaking of Neil Young l used to toss back some beers with him up at the old Boots&Saddles up on Skyline. He would just show up occasionally and jam with whatever band was playing.Played cinnamon girl,Down by the river and Southern Man among others.
Great guy to hang out with.He lives well he owns the big ranch up on Bear Gulch Road at the top of the mountain, so it’s use to be close bye to Boots to chill out at..
is that the ranch he wrote “Old Man” about?
It is…
I’m surprised how little the Seahawks got for Marshawn Lynch. I know they didn’t have much leverage, but simply swapping a 6th for a 5th? That’s damn near giving his rights away.
And I disagree with the take that the Raiders will bomb in Vegas. I think its a perfect fit and their games will be the hottest ticket in town.
Fired up for tonight’s game. I’m proud that we have battled LA tough for 2 games looking like we are still a legit rival of theirs. Hoefully Cueto channels his inner Aubrey Hill and mows down the Dodgers like a bunch of knuckleheads on the dunkball courts at Zamora Elementary.
Agree with all of this
Diggity – you’re probably right re: the Raiders being the hot ticket in Sin City.
BF..The ranch is called Broken Arrow has a fishing pond with bass, trout etc, unbelievable property, lots of redwood trees, redwood paneling thru out, huge decks redwood of course, Shipped in from Italy special bevel glass/windows, everything custom made doors, moldings,flooring, bedrooms, kitchen you name it he has it..Sound studio room of course.
Pav: Morse and Tomlinson are back. Span to DL, Crawford to bereavement list, Parker to 60-day DL.
Somewhere during the last 35 years, the Republicans decided their plans always have to start with big tax cuts for the rich. That always has to be the #1 priority, and they won’t give that up. It’s what sank their healthcare plan a few weeks ago. They would not give up those big tax cuts. And because of that, there was no way the thing could be funded, unless a lot of actual healthcare got cut out, and many were people dropped completely.
Is healthcare really that important? You can’t be turned away at an emergency room. Why would someone go to a doctor voluntarily? Annual check-ups are usually a waste of time. I understand there’s preventive stuff and early detection of things but how often does it really help? Everybody I know with all their great benefits seem to be dying or is already dead. Have a great night!
Well, it gets called healthcare, when what is meant is health insurance. And health insurance is important so people aren’t impoverished by medical bills.
I’ve had two major surgeries in the past 10 years. If I did not have health insurance, I would have had to sell my house, or refinance it and go into more debt to pay nearly $200K in medical bills. There would have been other possible alternatives, even less palatable…
Good point on differentiation of health care and health insurance…
Yes it was…
I wonder what the “eliminate special interests” means at the end of the pdf summary?
Perhaps something like Indian Health Care Improvement.
Just showed Chris Coglain(sp) inside the park HR against Cards.”IT WAS AWESOME “so he hits it off the top of the wall in RF, the ball jettisons back toward the infield, he running hard right out of the gate, the throw home gonna be bang bang, but as Molina turns left to try and make a play, Cogalin somersaults right over him and hits the plate! Freakin EPIC!!!
Speaking of The Who, who were mentioned earlier….
somebody got the idea of combining a Who song with a Johnny Cash song, and have it sung by a guy dressed as a clown. Genius!!
Outstanding! His version of “I Want You to Want Me” ain’t bad either.
I wonder if Gorky sings that song to Bochy?
Love it!
No comment…
1. Hunter Pence (R) RF
2. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
3. Eduardo Nunez (R) SS
4. Buster Posey (R) C
5. Christian Arroyo (R) 3B
6. Joe Panik (L) 2B
7. Gorkys Hernandez (R) LF
8. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
9. Johnny Cueto (R) P
We’ll probably regret that pinch-hit Gorkys got last night. It’ll probably get him months more on the 25-man roster.
Yeah I’m already regretting it..
Plus the hits just keep on coming,would not be surprised if Craw’s groin needs extra time after the breavement leave..
Speaking of breavement can’t we add Gorky&Span to some lifetime breavement policy???
You still want Gsellman?
Leaning towards Lugo at the moment…
lol, epic.
Gsellman gstinks.
Loo, I posted this earlier. Please respond at your convenience
Flavor said, on April 26, 2017 at 12:55 pm (Edit)
Who would win in a fight, Buzz Saw or Shotgun Hampton? And to make it fair, it would be Shotgun in his prime vs Buzz Saw today. Ok, who wins?
Tough call, and hard to think about. Unlike Buzzsaw, I never saw Shotgun hit anybody. He was strong as hell, taller and older. If he got his hands around Buzzsaw’s throat it would be all over. Buzzsaw was more of a bull and if he connected you weren’t getting up for awhile. I wouldn’t want to see it….
thanks. Hopefully San Diggity reads this and details how Aubry Hill would have done against these two guys. I’m always fascinated with ficticious fights.
Nooner batting 3rd is gurk-worthy. They did this Monday night . . . but at least we had no Gorkys.
Crawfish out for 2 days?
Jonathan Demme’s movie about Talking Heads was incredible. Saw that show at the Greek. One of my all time favorite shows.
That’s an awesome concert film.
lead singer must’ve burned about 5000 calories just singing that single tune
I was too young to catch the Talking Heads before they broke up, but I did see David Byrne when I first moved to Austin in the late 90’s. I stood right up in front of the stage. You literally had to dodge drips of his sweat. One of the greatest shows I have ever seen to this day.
I was not a big Talking Heads fan and I grew up right in their wheel house. All my friends dug them. I was more into Van Halen, AC/DC, G&R etc….and then after that I got into the Dead and folksier music. But everyone I know (plus you and Chuck) said they were insane live so I guess I missed out.
Blade, that was a nice post about ESPN and Disney, with streaming more and more people are cutting the cord to Cable and Dish type service. Soon they will have to offer an ala carte type deal. Why am I paying for 10 Spanish stations that I never watch? Same goes for the kiddie channels.
Pretty much loved anything Jonathan Demme directed, such a diverse collection of films. I had seen Talking Heads (2 consecutive nights) at the Orpheum Theater in Boston in the early ’80s just before they released Speaking in Tongues, and shortly thereafter Demme released Stop Making Sense. Just pure joy (especially for a Head head like myself). The way they filmed that was amazing; watch Chris Frantz tap his drumsticks together before each song as the sound cue for editing and matching different nights’ versions into the final “show” seen on film. I never owned many videos, but I did own that one and wore out the sequence of “What a Day that Was” and “Once in a Lifetime”….
Loo, I’m with you about insurance. I haven’t had insurance since ’04, rarely used it when I had it anyway. Living in Asia the past dozen-plus years, it’s just been cash-and-carry, cheap but good healthcare, don’t really need insurance. But, getting older… figured it was time, just bought some international insurance. Damn, now I find myself almost wanting to get sick just to use the damn thing…..
Snark’s post up higher makes sense but I really don’t know what’s right or smart when it comes to these things.
Just heard this trivia tidbit on the Yankee game. Tonight, Aaron Judge became the 2nd Yankee ever to homer in his first AB at both Yankee Stadium and Fenway Park. Any guesses who the first was?
I’ll say Jeter and I know that’s wrong
No, not Jeter…
nice catch by Pence and fucking Cueto is starting to grow off me…..
Talking Heads, and there are a lot of bands this would apply to, could never get any traction starting out in today’s music scene (I mean, as a brand new band). They’d probably be laughed at by high school/college kids.
They’re all over the soundtrack of the first (and best) Wall Street movie…
They sure are. Great movie. The second one? I couldn’t make it thru the first fifteen minutes.
Me either, WJ…
Puig still can’t hit a slider to save his life
Arroyo hasn’t exactly come out blazing…
If we’re gonna be in last place I’d rather watch Arroyo bat every single time over any of The Gorky Bros (who’s collective ass the Bowker Gang used to kick regularly)
Wood vs. no-wood.
I love the Talking Heads talk. I love a lot of the punk and new wave stuff. It was such a breath of fresh air to the music scene.
We ain’t got no friends
Our troubles never end
No Christmas cards to send
Daddy likes men
I Googled it. I was guessing Ramones!
sitting in Queens, eating refried beans…..lol
Watching these feeble swings, it’s like you can’t even imagine one of them hitting a ball to the wall, much less over it.
Like with any *great* band, Talking Heads evolved right before our eyes (ears). From their first two mostly somewhat punkish albums, to more global-influenced music, to just flat-out original stuff no one had ever done. They didn’t just sit still and stick with what worked, they were more artistic than most bands of the time. Makes sense, considering they were out of that Rhode Island School of Design community… It was eventually David Byrne’s ego that split the band. Loved Tom Tom Club’s stuff too with Chris and Tina helming the way.
Well said, all of that.
I miss baseball stirrup socks.
Who’s responsible for that change?
Bonds
George Hendrick?
I think it’s safe to say that the Giants are a boring baseball team to watch.
Aubrey Hill against Shotgun or Buzzsaw? He would definitely have to stick and move, as he was more of a fast, wiry strong guy without an ounce of fat on him, but I think he could hold his own against those dudes. And he was known to throw a punch with a fistful of coins every now and then, so there’s that too.
Talking Heads? Not my cup of tea either, though I dig a few of their songs. Once in a Lifetime is NOT one of them, however.
How about Tom Tresh on the trivia question?
He probably stole the fistful of coins idea from the old wrestler Baron Mikel Scicluna who somehow got away with it for years.
Not Tresh.
Big hint: A former Giant
Arroyo’s been getting peppered at third since he came up. He’s not afraid to stick his nose in there.
Many of us keep saying this team is boring, I call it dead-ass. Thinking that maybe it’s kind of like any job where the employees have had the same boss for a long time, it’s all very comfortable, maybe too comfortable, and performance just gradually keeps going down in that environment of comfort. I remember one old-time manager in Boston saying something like “it’s not my job to hold these guys hands” when asked how he motivated the players. No, but sometimes they need a kick in the ass.
With Pence scuffling, it really makes it an unbelievably bad outfield.
What the heck happened to Nunie? He looks like a lost soul at the plate.
Absolutely. He looks awful.
Let’s not get no-hit tonight. That would be a bummer.
If you haven’t listened to Remain in Light by Talking Heads, do yourself a favor. It was in THs big band world music phase, and Adrian Belew just kills it on that album. Saw that tour as well as the Stop Making Sense one.
Before the stripped down 5 man (well 4 men and a woman) band that was the Speaking in Tongues (and Stop Making Sense) stuff.
DJ, had the pleasure of seeing the Ramones open for the Tubes back in ’79.
Bill Bathe?
Murcer?
No-cer…
Ron Kittle?
45 mins in and the game is half over.
The moveable object meets the resistable force.
Proving my brilliance again at 8:16…
“Road to Nowhere” should be Giants’ 2017 theme song.
It’s not just this year. I think it was you, Mac who reminded everyone the other day that the team was hideous for most of the second half last year…
After reading both San Dawg and Loo’s breakdown of their buddies throwing down upon one another I have decided that Shotgun would probably have beaten them both. While I never worked a backstretch I have never seen a jockey take any shit from anyone. They’re the toughest athletes out there, IMO. Pound for pound obviously. So extrapolating from that long held opinion I have of jocks, I have to believe that if you worked the backstretch and/or lived back there you had another gear if any shit ever went down.
Anyway, that’s my take.
Flav, Shotgun was a groom not a jock and Forego was 1200 pounds of pure nastiness. Widely circulated but never proven legend that he killed someone in his stall as a 2 year old which led to him being gelded…
I know he wasn’t a jock. I was saying that I know jocks who are bad asses so I assumed the guys that worked the back stretch are, too.
Reading comprehension was never my strong suit…
ball game.
Ballgame!
not Chili Davis?
Flash: giants hitting is phuckin pathetic. When is the last time SF hit a jack?– seems like 2012…
Before that bomb I was thinking
Cueto is pitching as usual
Giants are hitting as usual
I really wanted my team to score first.
I remember as a kid watching baseball games, sometimes there’d be a team I didn’t know too well, with a fairly sad collection of no-name and non-performing players, and I’d feel really sorry for that team, that town, their fans, wondering why some clubs just weren’t able to field a decent team. Modern times, it’s perhaps often (lack of) finances. That’s what galls me about this current team: it ain’t a financial problem that’s creating these lineups full of the likes of Gorkys and Stubbs (who replaced an ever sinking Span). As head-nodding Giants fans, I don’t think it’s too much to expect that management would put a competitive team on the field. Yeah, I know, 3 championships, those were great. This team is just lacking a competitive edge, seemingly from the front office on down….
In the mid 60’s, there was no worse feeling than opening a pack of baseball cards and seeing a Washington Senator or a Kansas City Athletic…
Those would have ended up clipped to the fork of my bicycle…
That’s no way to treat Jim King!
They hit Cueto hard all night. There were a lot of at’em balls earlier.
Cueto throwing some meatballs right down the middle…
Here at the brewpub, my Pint of Firestone “Laconic Distortion #5” has more pop than the giants, and I don’t eve know Wtf the nam of this beer means…
I need a Kantuck Mule…make that fucker a double…
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Fucking Cueto is not fooling anyone! Get his ass outta there! They should trade him at the deadline.
Fuck it. Bring a kid or two up to pitch…
.032 Chase You’ve always been a prick Utley just rubbed it in as well…
Shit just no-hit are asses now management deserves it!!
A 3 zip deficit with this team feels like 103.
Before the Giants put me to sleep, the unlikely answer to the trivia question is Cody Ransom…
Loo,
You held me for Ransom on that brilliant trivia!
Hey I’m pumped just to see Buddy Holly PH right now! Specs always fires me up , dudes the ultimate scrapper…
Holy shit – Babe Stubbs comes through!