Bad Meets Buffoonery
This will be a fun series. I’ve always wondered what happens when a shit product collides with a shit show. I guess today we’ll find out.
Stat check:
Giants are last in the NL in home runs and OPS. They are last in runs scored. They are 3rd to last in SB’s (but might as well be last now that Nunie doesn’t get on base or run hard anymore). And they are 1/100th of a point away from last place in ERA (4.81 to Atlanta’s 4.82).
Park factors and OPS+ get thrown around here sometimes as a way to defend our joke-hitters and I’ll counter with this: The Giants have played in 3 bandboxes this year–Colorado, AZ and Cinn. They’ve been outscored 86-34 (I heard this on the radio this morning, I may be off by a run or two). So let’s stop talking about our offense being stifled by big bad AT&T Park. Our offense SUCKS regardless of the venue.
Their upside is that they haven’t suspended any of their players lately and no pics of massive dildos in their locker stalls have hit the internet.
So there’s that.
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plus no Cespedes and a few others and managed by Collins, who always looks and sounds like he just smoked a pack. Someone has to win next 3.
Bailed on Yanks Cubs after 16, glad to see Yanks swept them. followed some links on cbs site about a Cubs confidence poll (they lost 4 of 7 this week and are 3rd in division) that led to a blogger calling out Maddon for LU: Schwarber shouldn’t leadoff, Zobrist (.720 OPS) shouldn’t be a clean up hitter and pitchers shouldn’t bat 8th. But he does have the ring so I’m sure over there he can do no wrong.
IMO, he shouldn’t even have the one. The Indians really let that Series get away. Most overrated manager in baseball.
He flubbed his use of Chapman in the playoffs but ultimately got away with it.
Maybe the Giants and Mets can all get together for breakfast or something.
A Mets fan sees that his team is playing the Giants tonight.
Yep, despite all their woes the Mets have won their last three series, all without Cespedes and Syndergaard, and are only 2 games under .500 with the worst team in baseball coming to town.
Giants usually do OK in NY.
But with this team, no real reason to suggest the Giants won’t lose this series. Maybe if Craw is back, he might lend a jolt of some kind. If they take only one here, they’ll be 3-9 on the trip, which is pretty close to disastrous. 4-9 would be defensible as putting off the white flag on the season for a bit…
As the reality check comes in:”The Worst Team in Baseball”!!!!
Phew! I was worried about the massive dildo angle, but I think this team is fucked with or without them.
I am going to take Big Flavor’s advice and only watch when it’s convenient or if I have nothing better to do (which means I’ll probably watch a lot). Miller on MLB radio is a great way to fall asleep.
I had this Wednesday at Citifield circled months ago – ain’t happening….
C’mon Loo, didn’t you get in some kind of trouble at Shea in ’84 while defending our last-place Giants? Don’t bail now!
Yes, Mac. I was ejected for diving on top of the Giant dugout trying to high-five Brenly after a big HR.
They were probably 30 games out at the time.
If I pulled that today, I’d get locked up if not shot…
I must have missed Flavor’s advice about only watching our boys when it is convenient or if I have nothing better to do. Weekends are usually busy, and it can be challenging sometimes to tune-in to the games. This weekend was one of those – we went and checked-out a Dead cover band at a local brewery Friday night. They were damned good, as was the brew. Saturday and Sunday were just consumed with chores and errands, so I missed most of the games (thank goodness). Pfffttt…
I added on the “nothing better to do”. BF suggested the convenience part, Chi…
and that was a sweet add-on my man. SWEET add-on.
Very cool, Loo. Good advice from both of you!
Flavor has great instincts and I take his suggestions very seriously…
What is the saying, “Oh how the Mighty have Fallen…are they headed for 100 losses? Maybe, sure looks that way. Shit happens, unfortunately a lot of shit has happened to this team. No telling where it will end, it just sucks to have to watch.
Watching them this year feels like a bad habit that I just can’t seem to shake…
I guess it’s nice that the front office is paying lip service to playoff aspirations but does it really matter? Being stuck with the core group for the foreseeable future, it’s hard to see where they start with cleaning up this mess
Full no trade clauses
Posey
Crawford
Pence
Melancon
Partial clause – can block trades to X teams
Belt
Samardzija
Who’s that leave?
Span
Panik
Nunez
A bunch ragtag bullpen arms that nobody will take. Well, maybe someone has value down there but not for much in return.
Except for Nunie, who I think is gone at the deadline, I’d guess all of the above return next season.
Pretty sure Pence and Span enter their final contract years in 2018…
yeah, gotta get rid of Nunie but he’s not going to get much back. Cueto has got to be a candidate too but any potential partner runs the risk that he doesn’t opt out so again, not much will be coming back. Maybe trade him to an AL team since he says that’s where he wants to end his career. Ultimately the Giants will do something really Giantsy and fire Bam Bam or something.
exactly. Nothing will happen because they will be so far out of their comfort zone that they won’t want to get screwed. They’ll end up doing nothing. Book it.
Cueto is unmovable with all that guaranteed money left on his deal.
I don’t think a $100 million contract has ever been traded or even anything close to that…
Maybe the Dodgers a few years back when they took on Crawford, Hanley and A-Gon?
That’s all I can think of but no one would be that dumb again, would they?
And none of those guys were pitchers …
There’s 29 other teams out there, all it takes is one…
Everyone here is remiss to mention Bum as a trade chip. Obviously his injury puts that on hold until the offseason. It’s obvious he is going to walk in two years, so this would have beeen the primo time to make a blockbuster move. Let’s face it, this is more than a bad penny year. This team is going to suck for the next two years, hopefully not much longer than that. What good is having Bum around the next two years going to do? If you wait until his final year to trade him, the return will be peanuts compared to what they could have gotten this year, had he not fallen off the bike.
If you want an idea of what Bum would get is in return, take a look at what the White Sox got for Chris Sale. Among the four prospects is Yoan Moncada, the top prospect in all of baseball, who just happened to be named minor league player of the week today.
I get what you’re saying wilco but there is pretty much no way that that they move the Golden Boy (Posey), Legend (Bum) or Hometown Boy (Craw). Baer will never let go of that market angle.
No way anyone takes on Posey’s contract, so he can be the face of the franchise all by himself. Gofundme probably doesn’t bring back as much in return anyway, so he stays. Who doesn’t have a SS nowadays?
Gofundme still cracks me up. I think Bumgarner is one of those guys they back the truck up for so he stays a Giant his whole career. It’s part of the “we take care of our players” culture the club pushes.
Sadly, I ageee Dirt. Which is why their blind loyalty is going to bite them in their asses. It already has with Cain.
Posey, Pence, And Craw have full no-trade clauses. Bum, Belt and Shark have limited NT clauses. Not saying a deal can’t go down, but the players will have to agree in most cases. Cueto and Moore the only major pieces who have no trade protection. I say try like hell to deal Cueto before the break, because he’s walking end of year IMO.
I wouldn’t just write off the no trade guys. You don’t think Buster wouldn’t want to head back south? Same with Pence. If it was the right deal for the player, they’d ok it.
Good point. Buster would love to go back home to Georgia and they would welcome him with open arms. They could use a big name to help fill the seats in their new yard. He might actually be able to reach the seats in that warm, southern air.
I doubt Buster would want to go back to Georgia. They stink as bad as we do. Shit they won 68 games last year,at least we made the playoffs and if it wasn’t a pile of steaming shit from the bullpen against the Cubs maybe they get that 4th ring last year?
Braves are going nowhere( unfortunately like us) and I’m sure Buster would say no fucking way I’ll be part of their rebuild.
Buster would much rather live in the south than in California.
But his wife likes the Bay Area now. They have a big spread in Lafayette. They packed out of Georgia and their content to raise their twins here now.
So he’s cutting his southern roots and staying here..
lol, maybe. Nobody cuts their southern roots though. NOBODY.
Well, other than talking to friends and family, and visiting infrequently, I cut those roots.
It’s outta here!
They probably pick up an affordable outfielder (like Span) and take another crack at it next year with this same crew mostly intact and hopefully healthy. They still have an even year playoff streak going…
Jagger had better command at Altamont than Moore has tonight…
(I roll that one out every 2-3 years here)
Reyes apparently didn’t check the scouting report.
Hells Angels as well!
Well they got their point across anyway..
And it is still a classic…
I thought you’re supposed to waste one outside on 0-2…
And now he misses pick off play and throws home with SS on bag. Lucked out by striking guy out but wtf is going on with Moore? Head case?
It’s a dueling run of negative commentary at work between me and two Mets fans, haha.
MacDog how many hours a week do you work? You seem like you’re at work 60 hours a week to me
Afternoon into night, that’s it.
ah. Seems like more but maybe you just post more often when you’re at work.
Nice double snot rocket by Moore…
Excellent chance that this will be 2 straight years for the Giants without a 20 HR guy.
I wonder when that last happened in MLB…
I am not big on home run guys, the Giants had the greatest HR hitter ever, how far did that get them. He couldn’t even help them win a WS
3 innings away…
Exactly, Loo.
Yeah, they lost that WS because of Bonds shortcomings. Jesus Kevin, what the fuck are you talking about?????
All the talk about the how the Giants have no power hitters. How they have to have homerunn hitters to win. I just don’t get that.
Wow. Maybe 425′ for Buster!
It’s outta here!!
Boy what a prestigious Bomb by Buster!!
That ball was scalded into the second deck!!
Only 401′ according to Yahoo…
410. Don’t listen to Yahoo, they just guess.
Sometimes you just have to say”What the Fuck”!
Lots of people/fans/media whoever say Buster is now just a off- field doubles/ single dude now.
But when you turn on a heater like DeGrom has, I would say he’s not a total Punch&Judy hitter. He still can turn on em no problem..
Co-worker asked what SOS eyeblack means for Gorkys, I said, “Sack of shit.”
Lol 😆 No Shit
Just curious do all teams have a version of both a Gorkys& A Triple OOO like we’ve had???And then we throw in a Stubbs&a Rigatoni as well and you wonder why they can’t win..
“Yes, Mac. I was ejected for diving on top of the Giant dugout trying to high-five Brenly after a big HR.
They were probably 30 games out at the time.
If I pulled that today, I’d get locked up if not shot…”
Pure gold. If only there were pics…
so did you get the high five before the ejection?????
He was going to, but the cops and security pounced on me before he could. I’ve told the story before. Brenly and I had spoken during BP. I was wearing an SF road jersey (not easy to get in NY in 1984) and was standing among a bunch of 10 year old little Met fans by the SF dugout who were yelling out to him for an autograph and didn’t even know his name. He walked right up to me and told the little brats “I only sign for the Giant fan” and he signed my scorecard. We chatted briefly – I remember telling him I bought his exercise tape which I guess I must’ve heard about because it was a lie. He was all smiles. I wished him luck and he strode off. We almost met again about 10 beers later…
BTW, my dad was watching at home and briefly saw my head and outstretched hand on top of the dugout before both abruptly disappeared. I think he was proud…
Meanwhile, on the ESPN broadcast, Tim Kurkjian arrived at the profound conclusion that the Giants are looking for a left fielder, because what they have now “might not be working.”
The question: Did I need to watch? Answer: No.
Next question: Then WHY THE FUCK am I watching?!
See Loo’s 12:43.
Exactly. My comment is in reference to earlier banter about the need to watch.
No one wanted extra innings of Giants anyway.
And theirs your Giants lowlight.
Remember this latest loss for a chance to win a booby prize, on how Oshit&GasCan can self destruct…
It was important to save Melancon for the next inning.
Has the next inning started yet?
Yeah it’s always important to save Melancon for a lead we never get.He’s on cruise control pitching for us this year.Never pitches till we get a lead, which is never, then can’t pitch in a tie game either to start a inning, so maybe just chuck him out there in a blowout loss to keep the rust off?
Well, let’s see now, 11-22. Yeah, that pretty much sucks. Worst in baseball.
I caught Kuiper on the radio for the first time in a while. Man, he’s got a serious dislike for Belt;
“Here’s Belt. Oh for 2 so far. He’s done what Belt does, walk and strike out. He’s also scored a run.” lulz, nice Kuip.
Pence going yard to the opposite field AND a Buster bomb. That was nice. Moral victories in May taste kinda sour.
Funny, you don’t hear him say that stuff on the TV side. Wonder why.
I heard the Buster call of home run. One Buster HR and it’s like the world has righted itself. Belt hits an HR, and its — hey, he should’ve hit it a lot farther…
Agree with previous posts here about not getting mad about this lousy team; sure, why get mad, what good does it do? Baseball is supposed to enhance pleasure in life, not destroy it. But I’m afraid we all got used to that *champion blood* thing, thus making it painful to watch the current edition. Team needs an infusion of that blood again, anybody a champion here and want to donate?… When the team goes bad like this, I tend to want to ask these players, “Have you no pride?”. But of course they have pride. They really just suck, that’s all. They and Sabevans for thinking this would be a competitive team. Other than that, it’s still the same sport and microcosm of life that we all love.
The Yankees beat the unstoppable Reds juggernaut 10-4 tonight.
After getting into Cincy off an 18-inning game that ended sometime after 1 a.m. CST.
The Yankees played an18-inning game last night.
Mac said it first. 🙂
The Dodgers are up 8-0 in the 3rd inning, as they grow distant in the horizon ahead of us.
At least we’ve beat them 4 of 7. That’s about all we have to hang our hats on right now.
The relentless zombie Cardinals won, and are now 17-14.
Another couple of losses without at least a short winning streak will cement this as a bad penny year. 11-22 means the chance of playoffs is near non-existent. What I hope is that management admits it, and stops this utter nonsense of running out players that have nothing to do with the future of this team. Time to bring up the young guns, and let’s see who can play, who needs more seasoning, etc. Enough of these Gorkys and Parmesano Reggiano stiffs who have absolutely no role in the future…
Anybody looking forward to Denard Span coming back to CF?
So far, a near total bust of a FA pick up. I think Baalke told Sabes to sign this guy…
Dubs smoke Jazz in 4.
Which is more pure — the greatness of play of the Dubs so far this season, or the utter putrid play of the Giants so far?…