Action Required, Action Demanded!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 31, 2019

Well, here we are. July 31st. Our supposed *Super Bowl*. Sadly, Zaidi has been as inactive as….Sabean? I’ve fully braced myself for an onslaught of absolutely nothing happening—what a travesty that will be. And I will reign condemnation down upon Young Z. This is your damn job, man. This is why you were brought in here!

If I wanted the Giants to keep all the old guys around and/or trade or sign more old guys I would have advocated for them to keep Evans and Sabean!

Z has improved the team with some solid, under the radar outfielders (Pillar, Yaz and Dick). But there is so much more that needs to get done. Fuck this year and this idiotic pipe dream chase for one damn game.

Do what you were brought in here to do Young Z. My wrath will be swift and painful should you fail….

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unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:16 pm

AZ throws in the towel.
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:17 pm

Castellanos to Cubs…
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:17 pm

The Cubs snuck in a last-minute stunner, working out a deal with the Tigers for Nicholas Castellanos, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). The return has yet to be reported.

Sorry AK. 🙂
- alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:31 pm
  
  Yeah bummer I wanted that guy Blade, oh well Z still did an amazing job imo..
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:17 pm

Castellanos to the Cubs. DBs get 4 prospects for Grienke.
wilcojoe said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:18 pm

Flurry of last minute moves.
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:19 pm

Dyson gone to Twins
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:19 pm

Reliever Adam Kolarek is headed to the Dodgers
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:20 pm

. . . and we get Gennett. Yay!
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:20 pm

Giants get Scooter Gennett!
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:20 pm

Come on down Scooter. Bye bye Panik. LOL
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:20 pm

Tailgunner Joe McCarthy is headed to the GIants from Tampa Bay.
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:21 pm

What a stud Z is.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:22 pm

You want action? We got action.

Scooter Gennett is headed to the San Francisco Giants from Cincinnati,
PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:23 pm

Geez, my head is spinning trying to keep a mental chart of comings and goings for the Giants…
wilcojoe said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:26 pm

Astros gave up half the farm for Greinke but hey no guts no glory. Luhnow has balls of steal.
sandog said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:27 pm

I’ll hold off on praising Z until I see how much we had to pay the Braves to take Melancon.
Scooter is a nice get though—as long as we didn’t give up much.
- unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:29 pm
  
  Whatever it is, I’m fine with it. I was hoping to get rid of one horrible deal by the deadline, and we did.
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:29 pm

Twins all in on former Gmen relief specialists (Romo and Dyson). Lean and mean now to pursue the Wild Card, with us trading away relievers Dyson, Melancon, Pomeranz, and Black today while keeping Bumgarner and Smith and adding second baseman Scooter Gennett.

Yeah Paul, my head is spinning on all these moves.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:30 pm

Don;t know what we got for Dyson, and what we gave away for Gennett.
- blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:33 pm
  
  Prospects Prelander Berroa, Jaylin Davis and Kai-Wei Teng will head to the Giants in the deal.
  - blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:35 pm
    
    Kai-Wei Teng is also amazing on a wok . . . So, he’ll be overseeing the players parties and get-togethers.
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:38 pm
  
  Right, and how much Melon we’re eating…
Macdog said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:33 pm

Greinke started today vs. the Yanks!
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:34 pm

Prelander Berroa, Jaylin Davis and Kai-Wei Teng is what we got for Dyson

Prelander was born in 2000! 5’11 – 170 pitcher (Timmy sized)

Davis 25 OF 6’1″ 190

Teng 22 SP 6’4″ 260
gianthead said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:35 pm

Good job Flav putting the reverse hex on Farhan…
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:36 pm

Gennett for the omnipresent PTBNL . . .
pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:40 pm

Did I win Loo’s contest?
- pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:40 pm
  
  after all, this is all about me
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:42 pm
  
  YUP! And the bonus prize, too!
  Flavor has the Gift Card.
  You can e-mail me an address for the bonus prize.
  Way to go, Koko!
  - pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:47 pm
    
    Yikes. Wow. I’m kinda shocked.
Macdog said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:42 pm

Schulman “hearing” Braves taking on all of Melonhead contract, about $18.3M
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:43 pm
  
  Amazing!
- alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:45 pm
  
  And this Makes Zman more of a God!!!
- blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:56 pm
  
  HAHAHAHAHAHA . . . THANKS MAC! THAT MADE MY DAY!!!!
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm

🍜🍤🍲🥘🥠🥢 Bring on the Teng master grasshopper!!
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:44 pm

Zaidi has had it with the Panik/Craw no-hit thing.
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:46 pm

I don’t like losing Dyson. He was finally starting to grow on me.
My reaction to losing Melancon is:
pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:46 pm

Strickland joins Nationals. He’ll still have to fight Harper on the field not in the clubhouse. Or maybe the Nats got him for his pugilistic skills, or lack.
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:46 pm

MLB network says Gennett traded for cash considerations…
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 1:54 pm

Zaidi is feeling real good about Coonrod, I guess.
- unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:05 pm
  
  Why not? He’s young and cheap.
- alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:12 pm
  
  I think he might be feeling good about Sam Selman as well who’s been lights out at Sac..
  This pen is still quite good with righthandersMoronta, Gott, Coonrod,Lefty’s Smith,Watson& Selman a good potential blend and you add 2 second basemens in Dubon&Gennett not a bad haul..
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:00 pm
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:03 pm

Giggity giggity giggity! All of the contract?

That’s some serious wheeling and (fleecing) dealing by Farhan Luke.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:06 pm

DJ< you have to tell us what the bonus prize is.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:07 pm

Is it the McClain bat?
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:40 pm
  
  No, definitely not the McClain bat.
  It’s something pretty new – not a relic from the back of my closet.
  Any good Giant fan should have a place for it (hopefully not the trash)…
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:11 pm

Last deal?

Cubs also traded Carl Edwards Jr. to the Padres.
- alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:16 pm
  
  Isn’t he a race car driver?
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:13 pm

Dodgers didn’t improve their sketchy bullpen.
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:18 pm

1. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
2. Buster Posey (R) C
3. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
4. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Kevin Pillar (R) CF
7. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
8. Joe Panik (L) 2B
9. Jeff Samardzija (R) P
pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:22 pm

My tiebreaker was Panik, and in a sense it has happened. Sort of.
Stan Shell said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:25 pm

I had to laugh out loud when I read Melanoma (spell check result) and Pom Pom were traded thinking of the universal glee I was going to find here.
I was all in on Melon when he was traded to us ,but he lost it when he changed leagues. One of you guys should make a list of all the failures for relievers changing leagues.

Some of you are concerned about how much $$ we were paying out to ATL. Screw that! He was never going to make it here. He could have 10 straight good outings and 1 or 2 bad ones and everyone would want his head again. Think of what Zman pulled off- -ridding SF of two of our weakest pitchers, saving ALL the “premium” pieces, and picking up 1 or 2 pieces that we could work into an improved lineup. All that and we are still in play for the WC! Whatever our chances.

I suspect we have a good one in Zman.

Next Pres. and V.P. are on tonight (hint: B + K)

OSF
- blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:30 pm
  
  He hasn’t played in the American League for years and years, i.e., last two teams were the ‘Nats and Pirates (longest part of his career). He was excellent with them, especially the Pirates.
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:32 pm
  
  Melon didn’t change leagues, Seal.
  Are you confusing him with Bill Monbouquette?
  - Stan Shell said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:23 pm
    
    Loo, I thought he was a Twin/ChiSox vet. My bad.
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:40 pm
  
  What kind of odds you think I could get on the lovely Mrs. Clinton being the Democratic nominee in 2020?
  - zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:46 pm
    
    A zillion to one.
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:40 pm

Best move Z and Boch made was putting Pom-a bomb in the bullpen for an audition before the deadline and it paid off as they found a sucker to take him!! That was a great calculated move!
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 2:42 pm
  
  Outstanding point, Kat!
Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:05 pm

just got off the course, gonna have to sift through all these comments and look over the moves but early indications are that Young Z has escaped my wrath—-at least for now.
Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:10 pm

First reaction was the Paul (Asian) nailed this. In the end, Z wasn’t a buyer or a seller but rather a trader.
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:49 pm
  
  Paul really did nail it!
  Z somehow found a middle ground…
dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:28 pm

Baggs also reporting that the Braves are eating the Melancon salary. If that’s true…well goddamn!

Giants deadline day summary:
Sent out:
RHP Sam Dyson
RHP Mark Melancon
LHP Drew Pomeranz
RHP Ray Black
LHP Jacob Lopez

Acquired:
INF Mauricio Dubon
2B Scooter Gennett
RHP Prelander Berroa
RHP Kai-Wei Teng
OF Jaylin Davis
RHP Tristan Beck
RHP Dan Winkler
1B/LF Joe McCarthy

— GPT (@giantsprospects) July 31, 2019
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:46 pm

Best move for me was getting the Braves to take Melonhead AND his contract, and we got the Fonz, and Soy Un Perdador, baby.

Unbelievable.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:51 pm

Plus we got a starting 2nd baseman for cash or the PTBNL.
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:52 pm

Melancon pitching in the playoffs….
Good luck with that, Atlanta.
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 3:53 pm
- zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:18 pm
  
  My step-dad loved those, and took one in his lunch to work, five days a week, for decades. He eventually lived to be 91.
  - djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:25 pm
    
    They were awesome!
- alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:29 pm
  
  Nothing beats a scooter pie!
  Had a neighbor that worked for the company and when I was a kid at Halloween he handed out Scooter pies at the door, needless to say I would change by costume up and go get a second! Their still the bomb today..
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:02 pm

Melanoma deal couldn’t have happened without his blessing (full no trade clause) and for that, I’m grateful toward him. We get rid of him and his large salary, while he gets a clean slate opportunity to show everyone that he still has it. Win Win for both parties.
- PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:06 pm
  
  Agree.
- djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:18 pm
  
  It was cool of him assuming he wasn’t paid to waive it.
  Maybe he felt some obligation in light of the millions the Giants paid him for doing next to nothing…
PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:05 pm

Yeah, Trader Z got players to help now (in it to win it, etc.) plus young ‘uns for near future, AND offloaded a bad contract. Nothing super splashy but that’s a job well done. Gennett, good, but the real infielder prize might turn out to be Dubon. And an additional tip of the hat to MadBum, who clearly led the spirited call to give this team a chance to win it this year. Now let’s see if they can do it… .
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:14 pm

Yaz came into game slugging exactly .500.
Billy Williams did that in 1968…
- Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:06 pm
  
  the slugging % in today’s game is insane. I think the median (could it be the average?) is something like .430. I heard that somewhere this week, I can’t remember where. There are hall of famers who check in with a .430 slugging %. The game has changed and is out of control right now.
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:15 pm

Dodgers were relatively quiet, only getting Gyorko (who’s injured) and lefty Adam Kolarek, who’s death to lefties. That being said, they were pegged to get a top flight reliever like Diaz or Vazquez, but whiffed on both. Nice!
PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:35 pm

For this year, I don’t expect the Giants to win the World Series… still have some holes and less talent than some of the better teams in the league, but if they continue playing loose (no August swoon), at least it will be fun to watch and the post-season could definitely be in play. If Cueto can return and perform, that alone will be like nabbing a top-notch starter at the deadline. This series in Philly could be a good gauge of how things will go.
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:40 pm

Some teams like the Dodgers&Yanks still mystify me with their unlimited resources and on the brink of winning it all are reluctant to give up prospects to secure that success.Well guess what Houston isn’t, they seized the opportunity to add a Grienke to win it all and now with that Big 3 they probably will..
- Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:01 pm
  
  the Dodgers are as close as they can be to winning it all. They can’t just keep winning the NL west every year and NEVER winning the WS. I mean, I love it but at some point that will end. Hopefully their inaction at the deadline and Houston, a team that’s easy to support, can take it down this year.
wilcojoe said, on July 31, 2019 at 4:59 pm

I really think Luhnow intentionality waited till the last minute to pull the trigger on Greinke so Cashman and the Yanks couldn’t counter with a move of their own. If he makes that move 30 minutes sooner, Bum may have been a Yankee.
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:00 pm

Phillies pitcher is blowing his fastball past the Giants.
- Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:03 pm
  
  we got hot for a month. It’s over. I’ve accepted that and welcome others to do the same. I said I’d stand with the FB housewives until 7/31. That day is here and me and them are parting ways. Good riddance.
  - zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:15 pm
    
    And they say:
  - Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:44 pm
    
    whatever. I’m off those hoes they’re on their own. lqtm
  - pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:38 pm
    
    that’s one funny gif, hoes
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:02 pm

Dickerson unable to start the game today. That’s tough missing him in the lineup.
- Flavor said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:03 pm
  
  get used to that, him being injured is nothing new, it’s been his entire career.
  - alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:17 pm
    
    Which is why they need more depth in the outfield going forward.
blade3colorado said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:13 pm

We now have upped our chances of a Wild Card to 6.1% and a World Series championship to 0.1% . . . For perspective, the Dodgers have a 100% chance of making the playoffs (LOL) and 18.9% chance of winning the World Series. The 2014 San Francisco Giants — a wild card — pulled off a World Series title, but the other 27 wild-card teams since 2012 have failed. Half of those 28, of course, lost immediately. Of the 14 that moved on, only six won their division series; of those six that moved on, only two won their league championship series.

I don’t know why, but per FanGraphs, the Snakes with a worse record than us, have better odds (9.9%) to make the playoffs versus our Giants. Hmm . . .
- pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:39 pm
  
  intriguing stats, blade
- pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:40 pm
  
  likely bc of RS/RA differential
wilcojoe said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:17 pm

Zaidi may have a career in politics after a day like today. He did the impossible and reached out to both sides. He pleased both the Facebook moms and those (like most of us here) that wanted to see moves made for the betterment of the future.

I have no doubt in my mind that given the same situation, Sabevans would have done neither.
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:50 pm

Posey!!!
Busted it!!!
Macdog said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:53 pm

Buster bomb!
Macdog said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:56 pm

Pablo bomb!
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:58 pm

Z might of struck gold with this kid RF Jaylin Davis in the Dyson deal with the Twins.He’s tearing up AA-AAA with 25 HR’s currently hitting .331.He could help this outfield this year!
Macdog said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:58 pm

Pillar bomb!
Bozo said, on July 31, 2019 at 5:59 pm

This is turning into a very nice inning.
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:00 pm

Damm get out the Hitting Sticks!!
Pillar needed that bomb!!
djloo27 said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:02 pm

It’s the ballpark…
alleykat69 said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:05 pm

Trade deadline took little effect out their bats tonight.Even Panik who’s feeling the heat smokes a ringing double..
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:10 pm

Zaidi’s letter to Giants fans today:
https://mobile.twitter.com/gfstarr1/status/1156720012222173188?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1156720012222173188&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knbr.com%2F2019%2F07%2F31%2Ffarhan-zaidi-ends-trade-deadline-day-with-letter-to-giants-fans%2F
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:16 pm

Panik and Crawfish are hearing footsteps.
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:21 pm

“That Pitch Was A Ball:
The Brandon Belt Story”
- unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:25 pm
  
  In Belt’s case it’s clown steps.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:22 pm

Smarlelged working on getting to .500. And that ERA down. Be still my hopeful heart.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:23 pm

And Buster passes his home run total from last year.
unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:31 pm

Watson. Dude. Chill.
- unca_chuck said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:40 pm
  
  Thank you
pawliekokonuts said, on July 31, 2019 at 6:49 pm

Prelander Berroa, like, he’s gonna be great, because, you know, pre-Verlander.
zumiee said, on July 31, 2019 at 7:02 pm

Rough night for Yaz.