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Is it time to ponder this question: Does Buster knows what he’s doing?
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“So according to Grant Bisbee the Giants are dead last in walks drawn and yet top 4 in balls put in play which of course stinks with weak contact swinging at garbage pitches which of course leads to no runs.”
I’d say that when the offensive core of your team is 3 hitters whose value is derived from hitting with power and drawing lots of walks, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to impose a team wide put the ball in play hitting philosophy.
Like batting average with RISP, a low K percentage has no inherent connection to how good an offense is. There are some successful teams that do both well in any given season, but they are always offset by other equally successful teams that whiff a ton and/or don’t hit well with RISP. Both of these are the obsessions of discredited old school thinking and, unfortunately, that describes Buster “we need to balance the analytics” Posey. Bullshit. Put the nerds back in the front of the clubhouse now!!
Buster’s vaunted OBP depended on walks.
I wouldn’t overanalyze it. They probably just need a good old fashioned homo night in Woody’s shed…
Are the nerds the homos?
I know it’s staring me right in the face but I still can’t believe we are this bad. I don’t think you can pinpoint blame when everything sucks.
Giants are close to last in ABS challenge success at 44%. Reds btw are tops at 70%. Maybe Bailey is still so deftly stealing strikes that it evens out …. Or maybe there’s a failure to plan and supervise.
Are as Strother Martin eloquently said.. In Cool Hand Luke
What we’ve got is a Faliure to Communicate!
This team used to take pitches in the past working good count advantage, now they’re hacking 1st count garbage the pitchers no this so no reason to throw a cookie in there..They are dead last in Runs scored,HR’s ,Walks etc..Nothing to get excited about that’s for sure!
Of all the issues with this team, that is about 7th for why this season is tanking already.
Pitching, defense, base running, hitting, drafting, FA signings . . .
Devers, Adames, and Arraez are nice pieces to build off of. Chappie will hopefully keep his hitting going and avoid getting hurt his obligatory 6 weeks.
But Lee is proving to be a bust. Schmitt has promise if he can keep it up. Bader is entering negative territory in his BA. Ramos is once again completely clueless out there.
Then there’s the pitching. There’s no help in AAA for this pitching staff. AA? Not sure.
Jhonny Level sounds like the title of a 50s era noir knockoff. But he and a few other position players , Eldridge first in line, of course, show milb promise. Meanwhile, Whiz is top of the pitching posse on the way? Bresnahan? Tidwell is already here. Grim.
I thought he was a punter.
This guy was part of the Tarkenton to Minnesota trade. Yanks had a pitcher named Bob Grim too…
Yeah, I noted somewhere that our youngest pitcher in AAA is 25. Grim indeed.
At least SuSuSusac is starting tonight! And Drew (don’t call me Harry) Gilbert is starting in CF.
And Will( don’t call me Walter) Brennan is starting in LF!
So Bader&Oliva go on the mysterious IL list ( lack of hitting like the whole team minus well what do you know Arreaz a 2 time batting champion)
Things did get alittle Grimm for the Giants after screwing the pooch against the Chicago Cubs in the 2016 W/C playoffs the Cubs went on to win the W/S with a pitcher named Justin(Reaper)Grimm!
Also for Unca Chuck their was a first baseman later a manager named Charles Grimm with a cool nickname “Jolly Cholly” lmaoooo..
Hah! Jolly Cholly indeed. Will Brennan?? Never heard of him. Oliva may never see the bigs again. Jung Who? needs a day off.
anything happen yet? What the fuck?
once again number 42 sucks.
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haven’t been posting here much during games. Trying to ween myself off the Flap. Anyway, I was listening to KNBR on the way home and Mahle was on talking about how he’s a much better pitcher now than when he was with Cinn and he was excited to return to show off his new approach as a pitcher. LMFAO. We suck so badly, Buster was a great catcher but he doesn’t have a single goddamn clue how to put together a team
Wow, that was very, very ugly.
Time for Giants to claim a mulligan for the first inning.
i got an email that we got a week left, btw. Ship sinks April 20th
At the rate Giants are headed, their ship may sink before April 20th.
lol. Seriously.
I really don’t get how they thought they did enough with this pitching staff. I mean, they had high hopes for Birdland as a starter but Mahle and Flopsie (whoever the fuck) are wet garbage. I was worried about Walker, but at least I knew who he is. The rest are just a bunch of scrubs found in the Brebbia aisle.
They had hopes for Ramos (fail)
They had hopes for Hung Loo Jee (fail)
They had hopes for Bailey (fail)
They went and got Arraez (great)
They went and got Bader (they sure did)
Buster built the team on a truckload of hopes and prayers. You know. An empty truck.
My only other question is how much of the issues are related to the reluctance to really go hard in free agency? Not giving Buster a pass, because there were plenty of guys who could hav helped that WOULDN’T break the bank, even guys we let go like Dom Smith, but it isn’t like we are cheaping out like Pittsburgh or Oaklamento.
exactly. And Dom Smith is RAKING in ATL. Don’t know what he cost but not signing him couldn’t have been a budget issue
they don’t want to block Eldridge. BS.
Is it midnight on the 20th ?
OK, the votes are in.
Susac has to take the #1 catcher spot. Has to, until and if proven otherwise.
F the “framing” crap, a catcher who can hit is friggin’ gold. Above anyone else, Posey should know that.
Mahle is a LOSER. Walks their worst player with 4 straight balls.
And Ballgame as Mail it in Mahle gives up 2Homers and 6RBI’s to Sal I’ve hit 7 homers in 18 games! Gawd Mahle sucks donkey dick along with Hoser!Time for the Whiz to come on up!
Mahle’s birth certificate should have come with a letter of apology.
I think after that 2nd jack, Vitello figured the game was lost, so keep the Pen damage to a minimum for use the rest of the roadie. I’m kinda with him on that.
Uh, so far, this is what you call a S-show.
If this scheisse keeps up, the Giants will be in real danger of being effectively out of the playoffs by the end of the Flap, or by May 1, latest. I would welcome it, I think. it would demand a move to blow it all up, because this roster stinks like a Forest Service outhouse…
you are doing a disservice to shit houses everywhere
Flemming citing Coors Field now, suggesting – albeit, not stating explicitly – that the Giants can still come back . . . Interpretation? Answer – NBC desparate not to lose viewers.
this guy has more HRs and rbi than our team.
ESPN puts Reds win probability at 96.6%. Remaining 3.4% reserved for fast moving storm to hit Cincy and force rainout.
😂
Tony V got the most possible of getting Mail in HAMMERED in a quick white flag game!
Nobody was fucking even warming up as Mail in delivers this line
4 IP 8 Hits 8 ER’s 5 Walks 4 Bombs allowed ERA for season 7.36 yikes! 😳
And finallyTidwell gets up and chucks like 4 pitches to pitch the 5th?
And can Fleming just STFU with his usual fortune teller approach of :Well if the Giants can manufacture a few base runners and a Jack their right back in it! He does this shit every game and nothing happens, he’s so irritating to listen too!
Tyler Mahle is first Giants pitcher since at least 1901 to allow 4+ HRs, 5+ walks while pitching 4 innings or fewer in a game.
1901? Let that sink in for a minute or so . . .
Giants doing the usual, tried and true belly-up performance against a rookie pitcher they’ve not seen. But, it’s also pretty much the same thing they’ve been doing against most pitchers so far. I heard on KNBR some stat that they’ve scored 2 runs or less in all but 2 of their losses so far. How is that even possible? Sub-in the River Cats roster and likely they would do no worse. Vitello is going to catch hell for this, but it’s not much or at all his fault. Buster and Minasian have handed him a crap sandwich. He’s gotta be wondering whyinhell he left fame and fortune at Tennessee for this. Boch at his best could not manage his way out of this dumpster fire.
Golden sombrero for Adames.
deserves a Gatorade drenching for that
he should have to dump in on himself
good look there sending 8 guys out there.
You can compare the stats on Sal Stewart, the Reds rookie 1bman who is raking so far this season and tonight, with Eldridge. Pretty comparable. Edlridge is running about 200 ABs short in the minors. Stewart has clearly a lower K rate. Stewart is about a year older. Given the situation at hand, I see no reason why they should keep Eldridge down in Sac much longer. If they start talking possible damage to his “psyche” if he flubs, I’m going to stop listening.
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the bats will wake up, at least in streaks. But the pitching staff may get even worse. Malodor merely hints at what’s to come. I fear.
And now they started an inning without a right fielder? Which cost the pitcher an automatic ball!So embarrassing and a dysfunctional look! But hey can’t win with 9 maybe 8 is enough
Borucki another stellar preseason acquisition. Perhaps part of Giants current malaise result of inept scouting department.
They signed this guy to a MLB contract? They’re going to have to eat it.
Absolutely. Stale food.
Ramos flailing, not swinging.
Can the Giants start Robots?
Embarrassing loss.
They were out of it after the 2nd HR in the 2nd inning. Maybe after the first HR.
Not listening much longer to the “its early” excuse. Not at 6-11. A good team, a playoff team, does not play this poorly across the board from pitching to scoring.
Major surgery needed – Stat …
My bad.
They’re now 6-12.
Worst in the bigs…
30th place. Rock bottom. Damn!
Giants fortunate MLB hasn’t instituted relegation like English Premier League where each year bottom three teams get demoted to second tier league. Otherwise there’d likely be another team in Sacramento in 2027.
as snarkk said earlier, we could swap out the RCs for the Giants lineup and it wouldn’t be any worse. We, literally, cannot get any worse. We cannot fall any farther down the MLB ranks. This is it, it’s happened: 30th place. Fuk Me! And, add to the fact that the FLAP is disappearing in 5 days … wow … it’s weird … feels like things are just gonna get foggier & foggier … the whole world seems quite blurry at the moment.
Can’t speak for you or others but this blog makes nights like tonight and road trips like the present one palatable. Being able to commiserate and exchange candid sometimes sarcastic messages with everyone about state of our team certainly better than each of us venting in private. If blog does close down in five days, I hope there is some platform we can transition to.
Does Buster know what he’s doing. Good question. He’s had, what, 2 years now?, and in that time, I have appreciated his penchant for making bold moves that seemed to be part of a plan. I agreed with his signing of Chappie to start building an enduring team, also agreed with signing Adames, and I loved that he pulled the trigger on the Devers trade (although even I will admit perhaps the jury is still out on that one). I also really liked the signings of Bader and Arraez (although Bader looks hopelessly lost). On paper, the offense/defense looked good; the hitters not hitting is on them (and/or the coaches), not Buster. But obviously the pitching is where the offseason became a big Fail, almost like ownership told Buster, nah, don’t bother spending on pitching, you did fine on the position players. I have a hard time believing that Buster thought they really were “good to go” in the pitching department. No idea what they do and where they go from here. Another bold move or two? Why not. Do f-ing something….
right on Paul. pretty much my sentiments across the board.
I have had this almost exact position too Paul, particularly with Buster. I don’t think he is at fault. He definitely is NOT stupid. He was the “field general” on our 3 WS teams and KNOWS GOD DAMN FUCKING PITCHING LIKE NO ONE ELSE! Come on! Buster knows baseball and what it takes to win.
Not going to try to find my post where it’s irrefutable that today’s Giants are not spending as much money on a % revenue basis versus our championship teams. Coupled with Johnson’s “breaking even” comments, I will always blame ownership for this fiasco, that’s easily going on almost a decade, with the exception of the “unicorn” season of 2021.
Now they need to play .555 ball the rest of the season to get to 86 wins.
Very tall order…
Frustrating team to watch. Adames flailing to K with sacks full so annoying!
WordPress killing me. making me log in again every time i try to comment
Dean, and others, yeah, it would be nice to find or create a new blog (of course can never replace the Flap and what Craig has done). I’m not a big techie, the only thing I’ve come up with, which would be relatively easy, is to create a Facebook Flap group, which would need very little moderating. Trouble is, that only works if most Flappers are on FB, and I don’t think they are….
Not on the level of Jackie Robinson, but this guy just gets no recognition that I know of…
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