Those pesky Dodgers….
John Nance “Cactus Jack” Garner, U.S. Vice President from 1933-1941, once famously said: “The Vice Presidency isn’t worth a warm bucket of spit.” Well, a Wild Card spot isn’t quite that bad, but it sure ain’t what it used to be. It’s all about winning the division title these days, and it looks to be a classic Giant/Dodger battle for the division crown in 2012. There are a lot of ways to compare the Giants and Dodgers at this point of the season- their strengths, and also the things that need improvement. But another way to compare them is the schedule they both have to play the rest of the way. Who does the schedule favor?
And speaking of baseball schedules (if I may digress), I dig baseball schedules in all their incarnations. Especially pocket schedules and refrigerator magnet schedules. Whenever I’m doubting the human race, I try to remember that a species that invented baseball and refrigerator magnet schedules can’t be all bad. At the beginning of the season, it all comes down to what the Jimmy Fallon character says in the movie “Fever Pitch”: “A new season is a clean slate.” And here we are now, with over half the slate now turned into boxscores. The Giants have 36 homegames left, 32 roadgames. The Dodgers have 32 homegames left, 35 roadgames. The Giants have a few more games left against under-.500 teams than the Dodgers do (although that depends on what the opponents’ records are at any given moment, of course.) So, it’s a modest advantage to the Giants regarding the schedules, except….for those last 3 games of the season being at Dodger Stadium. But, on the other hand, by a fluke of the MLB scheduling computer, L.A. has 8 games to play against the Cardinals left on the schedule, after already having played them 3 times earlier in the season; while the Giants have 3 games left with the lowly Astros, after already having played them 6 times.
Will the Dodger pitching hold up? Will Kemp keep up a torrid pace for the next 2+ months? Will the Dodgers get Dempster? How concerned are you about the Dodgers?
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“How concerned are you about the Dodgers?”
I might be in denial and this may come back and bite me on the ass, but for some reason I haven’t been thinking about Dogtown much. If we lose I check and see what they did and I have to keep up a bit because my wife works with a Dodger fan. Actually, that’s pretty weird if you think about, the only Dodger fan that I know of out here works with the wife. My buddy done the street played HS ball with Hammaker so he follows the Giants a bit (huge Nats fan), another guy down the street was stationed in the East Bay, so he follows them. And, Gaylord Perry used to live close by so I imagine there are a few other Giant fans around but Dodgers? Just the one guy that I know of.
Anyway, I really don’t see them going down to the wire with us. I guess if the new ownership opens up the collective wallet, they could get what they need. Although our old cousin Ned hasn’t really had a great track record in the past, so we’ll see. The Giants are in control and seem to be gelling right now. The WC should just be an afterthought for them, the Division is theirs to be had. So fuck the Dodgers and fuck the Snakes too while you’re at it, let’s go out and win the whole damn thing, again.
The dogers value, as a team, went up 75% with the recent purchase and their debt/value is quite high as well. One hell of a wallet Mega Big Flavor Shady is talkin’ about.
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Fantastic thread, Zumie. To immediately answer your question, i would say that I am not worried about the Dodgers THIS year. Ultimately, they will be turning themselves into The California Yankees and we will have to sit by and watch them add 100-200+ million dollar contracts. But as we’ve seen with the Yankees, that doesn’t guarantee you anything. In fact, it will just make the rivalry that much better as well as make the west coast more *worthy* of ESPN time. To counter their expected brazen fiscal ways we just have to do two things: draft well and make smart, cost effective FA signings. But anyway, I’m digressing from the today’s thread so back to that….
The Dodgers have 2 position players that I would prefer over any of our 8: Kemp and Ethier. And I would throw Dee Gordon on to that list too but he’s gone for at least 3 or 4 more weeks……
Comparing starting rotations isn’t even worth my time. They have Kershaw and that’s it. Harang and Capuano are pitching well this year but they’re over their head, in my opinion. Especially Cap.
Their bullpen is messy right now and I prefer ours in terms of *known roles*. I know that sounds crazy with the uncertainty of our closer but the fact is, almost all of our guys can come into the 7-8-9 and do the job reliably. Having said that, Jansen is tough and we don’t have anyone on our roster to match his *stuff*.
Sure,they could add players. Dempster is off the table right now. They will take a shot at Garza but he left a recent start with an elbow issue. The fact is, adding players is more exciting for the fans than it is in terms of actual impact on wins and losses. Who thought Cody Ross would have impacted the 2010 season the way he did? If you could somehow combine the last 2 years and were asked (with the benefit of hindsight) who you would trade Zack Wheeler for, Ross or Beltran, which would be the obvious choice?
And I’ll close this post with this: You said, “Whenever I’m doubting the human race, I try to remember that a species that invented baseball and refrigerator magnet schedules can’t be all bad.”
That is a brilliant line, Zumie. One of my best friends in the world is Scott Lamm. BLADE might recognize the last name, his dad was governor of Colorado for many years. He was at the theater in Colorado the night of the massacre. His movie let out at 10pm. And as thankful as his friends and family are that he *left the theater alive* that night (seriously, how ridiculous is that to even say?) it’s impossible to not perseverate on all of those who didn’t. And the more that comes out about the gunman, the harder this is to understand……
So I’m gonna stop trying to figure it all out and focus instead on the magic and intrigue of the refrigerator magnet. And baseball–10:35am game time. And I have you to thank for that, Zumie……..
Flav, I’m glad to hear that your friend, Scott, attended the earlier showing . . . I was in the SF bay area and hadn’t moved out here yet, when his father was governor (for over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s). However, anyone who knows about Colorado politics, understands that Dick Lamm was a maverick democrat that walked his talk, frequently paying a high price politically and personally for some of his ideas that were far to the left of the mainstream. Regardless of whether you agreed with him or not, you always knew he was sincere about what he believed in.
This has been an extremely difficult time for the people of Colorado. Yesterday, I took a date to a matinee showing of The Amazing Spiderman at the Century 16 in Belmar, near where I live, and we were the ONLY ones in that theater . . . Seriously.
Waiting for the movie to start, we participated in a bit of gallows humor, e.g., “Good thing we selected this movie, huh?” Conversely, we also empathized with the theater workers, telling them that their co-workers at the Aurora Century 16 were in our thoughts and prayers. Everyone was doing this. Similarly, we, along with other movie attendees made a point of saying hello to the two police officers standing guard in the lobby, thanking them for their service to the community. Quite frankly, many people deal with tragedy in a number of ways . . . black humor, silence, grief, sadness, anger, resentment, etc. There is no right way to process it.
One thing I won’t do is watch CNN or the other 24/7 news channels. I understand why people do it, but for me personally, it’s self-destructive spiritually. The last time I did that was during the first Iraq war. No more. For me, it promotes fear and negativity. Essentially, light trumps fear. I choose to focus on “light.”
Baseball is part of the “light” and I am grateful for that.
Scott told me once that his dad’s nickname was “Governor Gloom”– I think that’s what it was, I can’t remember for sure. I don’t watch CNN either, for the reasons you cited. In fact, the worst part about this tragedy is that it virtually guarantees that a copy cat attempt is coming. This guy was the classic person that *nobody remembers*–well, they’ll remember him now. That’s always the intended fallout of these lunatics…….
That is correct. He said something about seniors having a “duty to die” and the media and his enemies took it out of context.
The thing that bugs me about all the news sources when something like this happens, they don’t call the guy a pussy that committed a chicken shit act. Damn the legalities, call it like it is I don’t care about his home life, his mother or anything else. Call the fucker out on what a chicken shit he is going in and shooting unarmed people.
I agree, Bozo. I didn’t care much for Bush referring to the “folks” responsible for 9/11.
I was *out of it* yesterday so I’ll respond to a couple of things from yesterday’s thread:
1) Dennis, I threw my support behind a Broxton pick up a few days ago. I think the Mets might offer more so I don’t think it’s going to happen but I bet Sabean is kicking the tires on this idea. And with uncertainty in the closer position, it’s a no-lose pick up (since he would be a fine 8th inning guy, too)
2) If Belt is going to keep (not) hitting like this then I might have to flip flop back to being ok with Huff getting a few starts
3) A couple of you need to re-visit the “Flapper Code of Conduct” page to the right. If you want to know how you get deleted (or how to NOT get your post deleted) then check it out—it’s on the right side of the main page under the tab “Room B and Other Outstanding Stuff”
I got two posts deleted. That was actually a good thing. Capping on Unca is just too fun, we’ve been going back and forth at each other for years.
I think flav makes a good point about Dodgers “this year.” I think Sf is much better team overall–position players outside of Kemp and Ethier, SPs, and the pen. Gordon has been erratic in the field and doesn’t hit much–crawford has been better, tho I realize he isn’t going to hit slams and 3 run bombs like lately.
Next year, tho look out. Besides losing out to SF for the division and possibly not making the playoffs, they also have big spending Angels and their superstars to contend with on local angle. I predict major house cleaning of dead weight, and they have holes at almost every position on the IF plus LF. None of the players they have brought up to fill same have hit much, tho maybe the Herrera kid gets a shot somewhere. Given state of their farm system, big splash signings might be their only short term option to get back into contention. Nobody in LA wants to hear “rebuilding mode.”
One more advantage for SF—bochy over mattingly, esp in terms of pen management, a very critical area these days. I don’t think SF needs Broxton at all; Hembree as a late call up should do fine as complimentary addition to what is already a great and well coached unit.
gotta admit I’m fascinated by what is happening to yanks across the bay…hopefully it portends things to come when they have to come here in october.
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yeah, what’s *happening* to the Yankees, and to the Red Sox, is fascinating. That’s one reason I watch as many Yankee games as I can. I think *they* are fascinating and I’m not talking about the team as much as I am the brand.
And both of those AL East teams are good examples of why spending money and/or taking on big contracts via trades doesn’t guarantee you shit.
I wouldn’t count on Hembree, I think he’s still hurt…
Broxton would be more of an insurance policy. If Casilla can’t get it together (and I think he’s going to, btw) then we really don’t have anyone. Romo and his 2 braced knees? Please. Affeldt is fine doing what he’s doing but I don’t think *closer* is his mentality.
Myers was traded for peanuts, I know Broxton would cost more but it’s a trade I’d make if I could……
I have Jarrod Parker on both of my FL teams. I almost sat him because he was going against the Yankees, then I saw they were playing in Oakland and I said no fucking way. WillieD correct me if I am wrong, but my reasoning was because I perceive the A’s as “owning” the Yankees when they play in Oakland, correct? In any event, I hate it when my pitchers go against the Yankees in New York city. Almost as if (I perceive) all visiting teams, particularly pitchers, peeing their pants when they step onto that supposed “high altar of baseball.” Personally, if the Giants win the NL pennant, I WANT THE YANKEES TO REPRESENT THE AL, SO WE CAN AVENGE THE LOSS WE SUFFERED IN THE 1962 WORLD SERIES.
Blade, the Yanks have completely owned the A’s no matter where the games are. The last time the A’s won the season series was 2007. Since then, going into this series, the Yanks were 30-7 vs. the A’s, including a 3-game sweep at Oakland earlier this year, so this series is a most pleasant surprise for me and my fellow Yankee haters.
Also Flav: All the Yanks’ spending doesn’t guarantee a championship, of course, bu it just about guarantees they’re going to make the playoffs, which they’ve done every season but once since 1995. Even with these three losses to the A’s,they still have a 7-game lead in the AL East.
Ahhhh . . . Thanks for setting me straight Mac!
and in keeping with the theme of trying to make sense of human behavior, there is this story from the Merc that gave a LQTM–moment. My favorite line was from the fire department captain at the end of the article…….
http://tinyurl.com/d83nh9o
My mom made me go to a Tony Robbins thing back in the mid 80’s. I immediately detected that he was an imbecile and never went back. I do a slow burn over the thought that Robbins has made as much money as he has in his lifetime…….
Good one Flav! Also, I agree that Robbins is a huckster looking to fleece whomever is willing to listen to his bullshit.
Really?
By the way Z. This was classic.
DJLoo said, on July 21, 2012 at 9:45 pm (Edit)
Where the fuck is PaulinAsia?
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zumiee said, on July 21, 2012 at 10:23 pm (Edit)
In Asia.
If you’re going to be talking “Code of Conduct”, you’ve said yourself that that there are plenty of lurkers her, and even though it’s a film line, it’s not in quotes or attributed- and in ANY case “then let’s go kill that fucking Jew” is beyond the beyond the beyond- that needs to go. There has NEVER been a worse violation-ever. And let’s ID the conduct violators- itsure wasn’t me- let’s be even handed about this.They need to be called out here. And the perp on the Jew comment needs serious dealing with. Where are the Chuck comments that Berger was attacking, BTW?
Agree Mike. I almost said something about the “Jew” comment, but was heading to bed and sort of recalled the quote from the second godfather movie. My bad though, because “almost” isn’t good enough. I feel like I almost condoned it by not saying anything and apologize for not calling it out.
Regardless, big props for you saying something now. I have no idea if we have any Jewish Flappers, but that doesn’t matter because the comment was so vile and beyond the pale.
I didn’t read much of Thr thread from yesterday so if that comment is in yesterday’s thread then I’ll go zap it. But you bringing it up here is hardly helping. That’s like CNN over-broadcasting the Denver thing. Why didn’t you just send me an email?
I don’t need to nor will I “call out” bloggers who are first violators. I reminded them of the code of conduct and hopefully that’s enough. And I would appreciate you not giving me feedback about how I moderate the blog. If you absolutely can’t hold it in, then email me
BF code of conduct? WTF?
Well, you’ve got several people who seemeed to no problem with the comment- that’s a fucking problem. Have you taken care of it? It’s not acceptable in civilized society.
The comment was too egregious to not be commented on and brought into the open- and the violator is a proud right wing wacko, Denny.
Denny’s statue must be taken down immediately…
it was at 7:47 P.M.
TF- I was capping on Unca when somebody threatened to shit on me. That got me going. I got two posts deleted. When I woke up and saw they were gone it was a good thing. I was drinking 8% beer and it was so good I had too much. If you like micro beer try an IPA 395 by Mammoth Brewery. It is brewed with juniper berries and sage.
Berger: I was just kidding around – I usually am. It was a line from Full Metal Jacket which I’ve watched 75 times this month. Try to stay calm around here…Flav has enough aggravation.
Actually, on one post I gave you my email address and told you if you emailed me I would give you my phone #. I didn’t think that was bad. BF must have thought I was going to start something. That is not what I was thinking. I didn’t know you were joking. Thanks for the clarification. All is good.
You shouldn’t be able to get away with objectionable material by using a line from a film- even if you *are* Loo. Your comment was out of line.
It’s kind of fun getting scolded. Makes me feel like a kid again…
Aw, no sweat, Loo. You can get away with anything here..
You’ve had a few less than stellar moments yourself, Twin.
Why is the Jew remark still there?
I have a feeling we’re about to see a lot of Arias 3b/ Panda 1B. and I think that’s a mistake. At least in the several days until the deadline, they can afford to hang with Belt, and that’s what they should be doing.Don’t misunderstand me- he looks awful, but they should ride it out until the 31st…
They should hit Belt 2nd to see if he can pull it together.
I also love refrigerator magnet schedules but it seems like you can only get them in person on a give-away day. I was never able to get an SF Giant one. The NY Rangers (a hockey team) always gives them out at the second home game of the season. If you ain’t there you ain’t gettin’ one of those either…
I really believe it’s just a confidence thing. If they detect he’s a guy who gets down on himself too easily and
and…incomplete thought. scratch that
Z, to answer your last question: Very. All I have to do is think back to this time last year. A friend asked whether I was concerned about the D-Backs, and I dismissed them as pretenders. This was during the middle of the 3-game sweep at Cincy that was the beginning of the end for the Giants while the D-Backs caught fire the last two months.
The Giants certainly have the better pitching, but will that be enough? One concern is that while the Giants made up considerable ground in Kemp’s absence, they didn’t open up a bigger lead due to the pre-ASG slump and kept the Dodgers hanging around. But there’s two months to go and still 12 games left with the Bums, so no one’s running away with this yet.
I dropped a Lasorda off at the lake this morning. That should tell you what I think of the Dodgers. I called my friend in NY who is a Mets fan and asked what is going on back there. I told him when you score 6 runs you are supposed to win, especially against the Dodgers.
I was thinking about movies and New York city because I have seen two recent movies (The Avengers and The Amazing Spiderman) where the destruction of NY – as a byproduct of the Super Heroes either battling each other, villains, and/or aliens – is 20 times worse than what the Al-Qaeda terrorists did to the World Trade Center. Probably Loo can only answer this, but it would seem that NY is plenty pissed off with Hollywood always using them for mass destruction scenes . . . Or, at least in the movies themselves, the townspeople of NY would go after the Super Heroes with pitchforks and torches, for always having their battles in NY city. At minimum, they should have that rich fuck, Tony Stark, pay for damages. 🙂
Haven’t heard anything like that, Blade – but then again nobody ever talks to me about current movies.
The last movie I saw in a theatre was The Doors (1991).
The price of popcorn has increased greatly.
I like Kemp but the mostly they just don’t get me fired up anymore.
Lasorda was fun in his day. Their current guy is just another boring personality.
Nate is starting again! The cave is rocking.
cults kinda scare me. Nate is fine back up, but really not better than pagan blanco melk in any way I can think of. He doesn’t hit with much power (his HR and extra base hit numbers are right around blanco’s), and doesn’t get on base much. He has a good arm and does well in RF, but has never played anywhere else so the others have him there too. He supposedly runs well, but that has never translated into steals either. The others are more versatile and have better skills, flat out.
what he’s best at, imo, is using the whole field to spray line drives in front of people with occasional gap doubles. Hitting the ball in the air to CF at ATT isn’t going to get him anywhere–he doesn’t have the pop to get one over that fence. I’m sure he would prosper in a hitters yard like NL central teams have or in colorado. But according to fangraphs he has a WAR of 0.3—even the slumping Pagan is way more valuable than that.
Well, it’s interesting that several of Berger’s posts were deleted but the deleter had no problem with the truly outrageous post from DMD. I’d be interested in knowing why that was OK.And I’m taking zero crap that I’m making too big of a deal out of a horrible remark made by a person who has specialized in that.
Did I ever tell you about the time I met Mel Brooks? He’s my favorite Jew. You need to lighten up, Francis. If you were head of the MPAA a lot motion pictures would never hit the theaters because of your censorship.
You can’t make remarks like you did- with no quotes or attribution- as Flavor has pointed out to me for far less egregious comments- there are many lurkers- and you can can the censorship bullshit- you made an anti-Semitic slur and figured it was OK because you used a line from a film to reflect your beliefs.
then email him directly to discuss it. You will stop discussing this now.
TF- I just looked at the last thread. I had about 4 or 5 posts deleted. I should probably be thankful! I called you guys 50 and 60 year old burners and JR GMs and. I thought that was good. The funny thing is, I’m in the same catagory, a 50 something burner and JR GM! LOL
I think you nailed it, Berger…this place might benefit from a little youth movement. Why can’t some of you guys get your kids to post here? Aren’t they Giant fans?
I told my kid to lurk in here and see what he thinks. But he is a youth minister at a so cal church, not sure if he looked and got a shock or not. 🙂
I will have to call him tonight and ask. He is a major Giants fan, as are 2/3rds of my brood.
“I called you guys 50 and 60 year old burners and JR GMs”…is that really what got you deleted? While the “other” post by DMD was OK?
Berger— I didn’t delete your post, one of the stable boys did and they emailed me this morning and told me why they did it. As should be clear from me not posting even once yesterday, I wasn’t on the blog at all. I didn’t zap the other post until a few minutes ago. I was out when i read about it on my phone earlier this morning and it’s difficult to zap on my phone.
There was nothing wrong at all with loo’s comment. It was funny, something that sometimes gets missed here at the blog…….
And Berger, I didn’t read what you wrote but I’ve been in the same *8%* spot myself and all your other posts have been fine. No harm, no foul.
Now, please stop discussing last night’s *other* offensive post on the blog. If any of you want clarification, you can email me. I’m home all morning watching the British Open and the the Giants game so I am quite available.
So, in summary, drop this now…….
Honestly, Tiger was attacking and then not, but Ells has the crowd cheering. Scott is hanging in. Funny how they put those guys on the clock earlier.
BTW a Brit won the Tour de France. First time ever. He had won two cycling gold medals and then re-trained for road racing. To top it off another Brit took second.
AND Spaniard Alonso took the German F1 race for Ferrari, in 15 races this year there have been 13 different winners.
So, yeah it is a “sporting Sunday”
and now it is game time
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then you are going to have a lot of posts deleted today. Stop discussing this now. If you have questions, which you appeared to have in the post I deleted, then email me directly.
At 9:41am I gave a clear direction to not discuss this anymore on the blog.
Fine-will I get honest answers?
I’m leaving up Ewisco’s post below. All your answers are there.
ok lads. it was me. i saw the “jew” line and thought that it was terrible. didn’t think about deleting it because i forgot that i had that power. later in the evening i saw the berger stuff and thought “that’s not good”. Only this time, I saw the “edit” button and realized i could delete it and did. At this point, around 11, i had forgotten the “jew” comment so did not go back and delete. Berger i tried to send you an email letting you know but it didn’t go through. I also emailed the group. Anyway, that’s what happened and why. I’m sorry to have not acted on the “jew” comment but there you are.
I’ll leave this, though it’s after my 9:41am post, because you are clarifying some things and that might be enough for others to cease and desist posting here on that topic. Any future post one this is getting deleted. The game is about to start and I don’t want this mucking up the blog.
In response to a post by Blade yesterday, I almost always give my opinion on trades and acquisitions at the time they’re made. Like anyone who makes a lot of calls on how things will work out, I’m often wrong-and often right.
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I can do this all day.
Now, I KNOW you two have each other’s email addy’s. Please discuss this that way if you must. But stop discussing it here…….
I haven’t said anything about it since your 9:54. WTF are you talking about?
I deleted something from DENNIS! It was at 10:01am, how can you not see that?
So why talk about both of us discussing it? I wasn’t fucking discussing it. That should have been directed at Denny only. I sent you an E-Mail as you “asked”, BTW.
because you are the only one who won’t STFU about it. And since he’s the offender, who you outed, I figured you’d want to have a long convo with him about it. You certainly seem amped up to talk about it here.
The British (or The Open) is my favorite of all the golf majors. Love those old courses. Very cool to see Els with a chance at a playoff here
I totally agree. And what just happened to Scott is why you NEVER turn the tv off when it comes to this event.
Yes my Salty one, it was the first and it is just ‘The Open’.
and Els wins, those ‘old’ courses are “links” courses which means they are built on the grasslands next to the sea. And I, too, love the way they play (when good golfers play them, not me!)
Is it OK if I post this once a day?
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/michelle-jenneke-australian-hurdler-dancing-sensation-042218109–oly.html
absolutely. That chick’s a hot piece of ass. And being a sprinter with a nice rack? The rarest combination…….
My take on that video is that she probably does that during practice and was feeling it. Wonder what she will do @ London 2012?
Now THAT’s some damn great running form!
And, she won the race.
No, she is not going to London, unfortunately…
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And Tiger birdies the 72nd hole — all for naught. Another chance at closing the gap on Jack has gone awry.
Do something constructive this week like picking out the babes you’ll use to cheat on your next wife.
Looks like Scott just blew it on 18. It’s cool though. I like Els
shit am I behind? He just stuck his iron shot 6 feet from the pin.
wow. that was the most epic collapse I’ve ever seen, mostly because it was like a slow death, unlike the French dude from a a few years ago. Vander-something?
Once he put it in that bunker I didn’t see how he could recover. He recovered well to potentially set up the play off. Tough way to loose. I mean it can’t be that tough to harness your emotions coming to 18 at the British Open can it? Lol. Tough loss for Scott. I feel bad for the guy but always good to see Els win.
Somewhere in the world, Jean van de Velde is LQTH.
I doubt that is the emotion he’s feeling.
What do you think he’s feeling? Misery loves company. He’s feeling a whole helluva lot better about himself knowing that he’s not the only one to choke away the Open Championship. Granted Scott’s debacle wasn’t as dramatic as van de Velde’s. But it was an olive swallower none the same.
He probably had fucking EMPATHY for him. Why you think he’d be laughing to himself is weird…….
Shocker! Amazing. Feel for Scott, but happy to see one of the classiest dudes around win it.
Me too, can we call Ernie ‘old school’?
Did any of you see the putt yesterday, from quite a distance, and it swirled a 360 around the edge as it dropped in?
who’s got today’s lu?
Schierholtz RF, Theriot 2B, Cabrera LF, Posey C, Sandoval 3B, Pagan CF, Crawford SS, Belt 1B, (Zito P)
nevermind, MLB has started broadcasting the game and Belt is IN, Zito pitching to Buster
Nate-RF
Nate-SS
Nate-LF
Nate-3B
Nate-C
Nate-CF
Nate-1B
Nate-2B
Zito (P)
BTW, Ed. Your fantasy team is looking mighty sporty these days. Sad to say my Pussies are starting to play like Adam Scott.
who is Adam Scott out of and by?
does he putter around the race track?
does he use his his ‘horse sense’?
is he a bogey to every other horse?
should I bet him to place?
Nate Theriot Cabrera Posey Panda Pagan Craw Belt Z
something else I’m going to start keeping track of is SF all stars compared to everyone else in the LU. two days ago the “others” drove in 6 of 7 runs. Yesterday others not including pitchers 5-24 while a/s went 6 for 13 2 walks 2 HRs a double scored 4 drove in 4.
Morning everyone and after reading through the comments, my thoughts are on Panda and essentially why he seems to have hit the skids almost the day after he was cleared of charges? And Nate the Great is back!!
He’s probably just going through a rough couple of games, it happens to everyone.
good lord. the cave is rocking today!
Great start by Nate!
I better call Berger. His boy Nate just went yard. I’m never going to hear the end of it. Might as well get it out of the way.
well, Berger is rewarded for his commitment to the cult. It’s nice to see Nate drive a ball for once, it’s been a LOOOOOOOONG while.
The CULT lives!!!!
Melky doesn’t hit too many bombs but he is a goddamn line drive producing machine…….
Would you give Melky 5 yrs/$70M as would Marty Lurie?
Those sorts of numbers make my eyes cross.
somewhere in that ballpark, yes. Maybe 60.
zito needs three more runs and he’s automatic. or did i just curse him?
After reading Baggs’ column on Bochy denying Lincecum has a problem with Buster, saying, “Posey ‘handles’ Timmy just fine,” I am convinced that the only problem might be that Tim has a problem with the “handling” word. Maybe Tim’s thin skin was offended by Buster’s youthful directing? Just a thought.
Bochy is going so far out of his way to continually deny a problem, suggests there is one…
Yes, it’s like politicians saying they won’t reveal their tax returns because they know they have nothing to hide. I can’t ever remember Bochy revealing any real news, and that seems like the right thing for him to do.
Nate can go from looking lost, to looking like a super star. Panda looking lost at the moment.
Now THAT, for Nate, IS some showcasing…
I missed it, I was in the shower. Reno Jim is over(he blogs on the Giants web) and he told me Nate went yard on the 3rd pich! The cave is rockin’. I’m flushing the bidet multiple times to celebrate! We are installing a TV in the bathroom so I can sit on the toilet and flush the bidet all day! Go Nate! I need to call Del!
I’m not worried. Zito will soon enough make sure that the Nate dinger will surely not be the only one…
I couldn’t get that line out typed out fast enough after Rollins smoked that out to Panda before Utley ripped that triple…
Fucking Pagan *alligator* armed that…….
who jinxed Zito?
McGowan. When he signed him…
Pagan should have caught that one, IMNHO.
I have the radio on, but with the ponies on TV and Frank yapping in my ear, I didn’t hear it myself.
But I saw this on Twitter: Jon Miller just said that Panda and Belt was called into Bochy’s office because of all the runners they left stranded in this road trip.
Hopefully Belt was at least offered another Bud Light. Panda? I’m sure he was eying Bochy’s fridge.
Don’t look now, but Crawfish is the star of this roadie. Continual good play at short with some stellar efforts like that DP there, plus the HRs….
And I concur with Pagan’s non-catch on that ball in deep right-center. It was half-assed and should have been caught. I wouldn’t be averse to dumping him into the East River with a pair of cement shoes.
I’m thinking about buying a second pair of shoes for Belt.
If they’re hitting shoes, fine…
I’m sure that a good talking to cured the problem.
always worked for me 😀
Bochy getting on Belt is amusing. Hasn’t he been on Belt’s case essentially since he gave the kid the beer? And, in public to the media multiple times. As for Panda, what did Boch tell him? Not to swing at so much shit with men on base? Thanks, that’s helpful. Oh, and remember, stop hanging with unknown chicks in Santa Cruz…
If Nate’s any indication, looks like publicly agitating for playing time leads to some starts and some hits, including an HR. Burriss needs to go Schulman right now and demand a trade…
Every time Zito pitches I feel like there’s an avalanche of runs always lurking. Somehow, he’s avoided that fairly often this year…
I don’t understand why you have to get on every single negative thing the guys does. He’s had 18 starts this year and he’s either won or given the team a chance to win in 13 of those starts. I think anyone would take that from their #5.
He’s given up some dumb hits (Blanton) and some scorched hits but he’s gotten out of both innings by inducing ground balls (and I say *balls* because he had another double play if it weren’t for Belt’s errant throw) and a strike out to end the last inning.
He’s hardly perfect but I am at least happy when he pitches well. I don’t particularly like Nate but I was happy he hit a home run. Just be happy he’s pitching well this year and if the other shoe drops and he implodes for the rest of the year then you and Twin can lead the way in telling everyone you told us so……
I’m happy as hell he’s better this year, especially given Tim’s implosion. That doesn’t mean that after 5 years of crap, I can watch him pitch without apprehesion. If you can, good on you…
Keep me out of it- I’ve said that I no longer give a shit about who does well between him and Lincecum- as long as one of them does.
Neither: we lose division
One: win by 5
Both: Bochy can start resting regulars on September 15
and I shouldn’t have included Twin in my post. I forgot that he’s gone on record as saying at this point he doesn’t care about it anymore as long as one of them does well. I’m not doggin’ on your post because of the content, I’m doggin’ on it because of the frequency of them. At some point, it gets a little repetitive.
But rag on everything about him if that’s what you want to do, I shared my thought.
It seems to me though that you’d reserve you major vitriol for him *if* he does go feet up this year. Or maybe that’s what you’re doing…. 🙂
I love watching Howard strike out.
at least he got off a swing that time.
There we go!
There We Go (IRE) by Pyrus out of Ghayaat.
Zito Houdini. But the Milk Can Escape still knocks on death’s door.
move the runner along HR Crawford is at bat
I love schedules, too. My favourite was always the fold up pocket one. Since I can rarely find one in Derbyshire my favourite now is the printable one of the Giants web site. It gets printed in full colour and goes up on the wall next to the calendar every spring training.
that was meant to include: Great topic zumie, always look forward to them.
Since you’re a schedule fan, how does the rest of the season match up vs the opposition for the Dodgers and the Giants?
Ed, I can never tell ya enough how much I love the fact you live in a town named Derbyshire.
That’s beyond being money. We’re talking the San Francisco Mint.
agreed. I’m thinking of re-naming my house that just to get in on it……
Hey, I’ll third that.
Maybe, but for all we know Eddacker might really be some guy named Hippolito living in the Bronx…
A few guys seem to be pressing at the plate. Belt and Pagan are the tightest, and may be taking it out to the field, Crawford may be swinging for the fences too much, but Panda doesn’t seem to let it bother him. When he goes stale, he seems to work it out for himself. I imagine that business with the law must have scared the crap out of him and hopefully it’s over forever. I’m hesitant to say a word about Nate because every time I do, it bites me back.
was it my imagination or did Melky look a little *something* running to first on the ground out?
Isn’t Jeopardy the way Mel Gibson got started?
Any thoughts, opinions or predictions on the future of Huff with the Giants?
Done, or very nearly done. He might get a few starts before the deadline to prove me wrong, however….
In 2020, he will receive deserved applause at the 10-year WS championship reunion…
You are the master of sardonic irony it seems. He has become such a contradiction since then, seeming to do and say exactly the wrong thing. From hero to goat all due to some dubious choices. Quite a shame actually.
Agreed. I don’t know if there was anybody on the Flap more of a Huff promoter than I, back then. He seduced me with his fresh wild-hair character, and his performance. He was a breath of fresh air to the Giants, quite the anomaly to the paradigm “good Giant”. But, it was a glorious flash in the pan. He let himself get out of shape, and that was it. To me, that’s a betrayal, of sorts. Maybe his flame out adds to the 2010 mystique. Probably does…
Some have claimed his downfall came when he started hanging out with Burrell.
who *claimed* that?
I honestly don’t recall where I read it, but apparently he was out chasing skirts, got busted by his wife and had some marital difficulties because of it. It didn’t take much imagination to believe it frankly. That was weeks ago that i read it but Huff made a public apology apparently to his wife and some statement about wanting to come back because he didn’t want his kids to think he was a quitter.
Huff has been a proud, self proclaimed partier since his days at University of Miami. And I didn’t see anything in your follow up post saying anything about Burrell luring him out to party…….
I wasn’t aware I would be asked to testify on what I read on some post a month or more ago. It didn’t seem too far-fetched that he would be out with Burrell, frankly, or that his notoriety in that sort of thing would be questioned. It didn’t offend me though in any way.
well, you made a fairly direct accusation that Huff’s demise was related to him partying and that Burrell was the guy who led him down that path. If you’re gonna say something like that I have every reason to question it since I’ve never heard that. I did hear about Huff’s marital problems and I do know Huff and Burrell went to college together and I’m sure they bagged their fair share of babes over the years. And then your follow up post said nothing about Burrell, just that Huff was out partying.
I don’t care one way or the other, it just seemed to me like you were making up the shit about Burrell and falling back on *some people* blaming his downfall on Burrell. Sounded like Rag newspaper talk to me……
As for the thread, I said LA would take the division, and I’ll stand by it. They’ll make some moves by the deadline for sure, Colletti will have the green light to bolster the hitting, I should think. Sabes will have to bolster, too. It might come down to the last 3 games at the Latrine, which would be grand theater…
surprised to see you think LA wins division, snarkk. In order to pick up talent they are going to have to give something up, and with a paucity of quality bats available, I could see them getting outbid. No one they have currently on the big club is going to bring in much, I don’t think. Lot of teams will be after Dempster too.
Belt’s TWO fer his last twenty-eight. Belt blows more than one of Chuck’s cheap floozies at the whorehouse.
So you’re thinking this isn’t his showcasing?
I prefer to call it just “0-2 after the talking to”…
Bochy is probably thinking he is .500 since his chat seems to have worked with the Panda.
Hard to fathom how and why Belt has gone so completely bad. He’s looks struck out as soon as he gets in the box.
He definitely seems to have taken it harder than most. If just a slump, not that unusual for a youngster, but he can’t seem to get it out of his head.
I would really like to know what has gone on behind the curtain with him, Bochy, Meulens, etc. Whatever it’s been, it’s been disastrous. We won’t get the story from the beat writers. Now, anyway. Later, maybe, and the story will start with “it was common knowledge that…”
Love the intrigue and agree but you’re right, the baseball CIA has enforced the law and nobody’s talking. Washington could learn a lot from baseball. I imagine that Bochy has become a bit old and crabby and just given up being diplomatic. Though he may have always been crotchety for all I know. I still can’t believe he told Nate he’d never be an every day player, even if it was true. These young men are sensitive these days.
He looks to not have a clue, doesn’t he.
Besides everyone messing with his head? I’d say, high socks, misses his dog (That’s huge) and lives in Walnut Creek (that would mess with my head).
And Tim would prefer Posey playing first (just a different twist to Tim not wanting Buster catching).
Great play by Theriot there.
Swinging, looking, I love watching Howard strike out.
nice inning by BZ. whenever panda has time to think about a throw, i shudder.
Pagan and Belt looking like hurt puppies. Not a good look, get tough!
Houdini just got stuck in his milk can. That was a tater. Ron White was Tater Salad.
I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but I find White, Foxworthy and Larry the Cable Guy (Blue Comedy Tour) funnier than shit. And you can add Bill Engvall while you’re at it. “Here’s your sign…”
I would not blame Bochy in the least for yanking Zito for that second Mabrey homer. He’s probably beyond his limit anyway.
since he struck out the next two guys I’m guessing it was ok that he left him in?
I’m not against Fox using local guys for national broadcasts, but that Phillies broadcast crew made minimal effort to pretend to be impartial, and the call of the Cain homerun was a travesty. They had Cliff Lee miked, and he, and the Phillies play-by-play guy, and Mitch Williams start in talking about how great Hamels is, and Cain’s bat goes CRACK, and here’s the homerun call:
Phillies broadcaster: “Uh-oh.”
Lee: “No way.”
Phillies broadcaster, with voice low and sad, sounding like Cronkite announcing the death of JFK: “Matt Cain deep to left….and it’s gone….”
I’m absolutely not exaggerating. I have yesterday’s game DVRed, and just rewatched the play to hear that “homerun call” again. Cain crushes a homer off Hamels to tie the game, and that’s the call we got.
You are exactly right. The calls on the Cain HR and the Hamels HR were laughably different. KNBR played them one after the other yesterday, it was crazy. It was as if Hamel’s HR won the Pennant, and Cain’s was a disaster. Fox baseball broadcasting is a travesty…